TV01:

Please present the evidence. A telescope will show the movement of the heavenly bodies, not the movement of the earth.


Have you carried out this experiment? If so please evidence and detail your findings. What did it demonstrate?


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nwabekeyi:
If you have a spectroscopy that can measure red shift in respect to motion, you will ascertain how galaxies move.

you cant sit in your room and make conclusions, people are out there working hard to make things work for you and I. Get this equipment and do the work yourself

nwabekeyi:
You are ignorant and you keep arguing, a radiotelescope can actually help ascertain how the earth moves. Without proper calculation of how the earth spins, you cant use a radiotelescope.... it wont work


i have tried the experiment and it proves that the earth rotates, maybe you can try it. If you need some help, i will be glad to help you.

TV01:
Why not share your empirical evidence. Detail what you set out to demonstrate and the outcome. Any presumptions or control factors. Shouldn't be too difficult. In language that is not too technical please.


As above, please share. What exactly you did, the assumptions, and the evidence that it demonstrates what you claim it does, as opposed to what you set out to prove. How fast and at what angle is this rotation that you personally evidenced?


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nwabekeyi:
Everything you need to know about it is online. I really think is stressful trying to elucidate a scientific experiment to someone who doesnt have prior science knowledge. If you dont understand how radiotelescopy works then i can no longer have a scientific conversation with you.

You problem is that you dont know science

TV01:
Your subjective pronouncement on my mental condition - which I totally reject by the way - is no evidence of the earths motion or shape. Or is it?

Do you have any evidence for motion? Are you able to prove your belief that the earth is rotating at 1'000mph, orbiting at 67'000mph, with a galaxy moving at over 500'000mph, which is in turn moving through the universe at near 1'2million mph? Anything we can discern? Anything you can empirically demonstrate. Can you provide a scientific (observable, testable, repeatable, falsifiable) methodology for your measurements. Or is it blind faith

What about the shape? Show us the curvature or water curving. Show us something observable for the claimed spherical shape or evidence, or an experiment.

Make the earth move for me bro'

Daniel 4:11
The tree grew and became strong, and its top reached to heaven, and it was visible to the end of the whole earth. (the whole of a globe earth cannot see a tree no matter how high it grows)

Isaiah 38:8
Behold, I will make the shadow cast by the declining sun on the dial of Ahaz turn back ten steps.” So the sun turned back on the dial the ten steps by which it had declined. (the sun moves, not the earth - its, small, local and acts like a spotlight, covering no more than half the earth at any one time/point)

Matthew 4:8
Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. (one cannot see the whole of a globe no matter how high one ascends)


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TV01:

Your assumptions as to how what we experience, or observe, fits with what you believe, is not proof, just opinion. However, I'll take the first few;

Day & Night - we see the sun move which it does, orbiting the earth. It is small, local and lights up part of the earth at any one point/time. Hence day and night on a flat stationary earth.

Coriolis effect - has been observed to go either way in either hemisphere

Footage from the ISS - please show it to us

Orbiting satellites - orbiting what? where? (at what altitude) show us examples.

Do you have any evidence for motion? Are you able to prove your belief that the earth is rotating at 1'000mph, orbiting at 67'000mph, with a galaxy moving at over 500'000mph, which is in turn moving through the universe at near 1'2million mph? Anything we can discern? Anything you can empirically demonstrate. Can you provide a scientific (observable, testable, repeatable, falsifiable) methodology for your measurements.


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nwabekeyi:
these are not observations and assumption, they are proven facts and it is so whether you accept it or not.

ICT will not work without orbiting satellites and a spinning earth.

Coriolis effects cannot work in a stationery earth, you need read about how it works as only spinning object posses coriolis effect (read up)

Life on a stationery earth is impossible as electromagnetic field will not be generated and will all die from solar wind.

As a matter of facts, nothing in the universe is stationery, little read up will help you understand how it works. There is no need denying something because we are ignorant about how it works.



At the stage of civilization, we should not be educating learned people on this subject matter, with your telescope you can see the International space station in the night sky orbiting the earth. Let's dont sound ridiculous because we want to argue...

Horiolah:


He's playing with your mind. Na mindbender

nwabekeyi:
He is really bad at it. He is playing the ignoramus to me

Horiolah:
Lol, why are you exposing the Bible like this na.

Horiolah:
TV the real clown.

Horiolah:
I thought he was for real until I started reading his Bible quotes.

nwabekeyi:
He is really bad at it. He is playing the ignoramus to me

nwabekeyi:
nice write up but your conclusion is faulted. It doesn't matter if you believe in the Bible or not, what matters are the facts presented. From the verifiable facts we have, the bible is totally wrong as regards the shape of the earth...

After all, internet cannot even work on a flat earth, you won't be able to reply this text if the earth were flat

EMILO2STAY:
am beginning to believe in this flat earth thing ohh.
there was a video I watched on YouTube which actually show that the sun is local. I was thought in school that the sun is soo big it can contain a1000 earth sized matter, but I now know this is pure lie.

Horiolah:


TV the real clown.

ThothHermes:
TV01
You seem to have an answer for everything.

What do you make of photos from the International Space Station?

Also, how would lunar eclipses occur on a flat earth?

TV01:

At all - I just cross-reference against the bible, then look closely at things that contradict it.

ISS - situation faked, output fabricated. As were the Moon landings, China's claim to land on the dark side of the moon and most "Space Agency" output.

Lunar eclipse on a flat earth. Not totally clear, but both sun and moon have been sighted at the same time as the lunar eclipse - something like 50 times over the last 500 years. Some posit that it could be other heavenly bodies that we are unaware of. There are 2 named in ancient Indian mythology, Ketu and Rahu I believe.

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ThothHermes:
Are you saying there's no ISS?

ThothHermes:
Now you are reaching? A lunar eclipse is a distinct event that can be predicted to the exact time of occurrence. A Google search will tell you when the next will happen in your vicinity.

ThothHermes:
Is the flat earth floating in space?

ThothHermes:
Are you saying space travel has never happened?

TV01:
No, there probably is. Where it is is the question?

And, there is documented evidence of the sun and moon both being seen during a lunar eclipse. Also googleable

Psalm 104:5 He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. That's a no!

What is space? And where does it begin? Biblically I don't believe we can escape the hard firmament. Nasa now says we can't escae the van allen belt - after having supposedly traversed it a half doxzen or so times during the Apollo missions


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Horiolah:
Are u alright You can see d iss from earth with a telescope.

TV01:
Are u alright You can see d iss from earth with a telescope.
So where is it? What altitude? Can you determine its size using a telescope? Apparently it is in "low earth orbit" weightless and travelling at over 28'000kmph. Moving so fast the crew experience 16 sunsets and sunrises each day.

All dis moofment - my head dey spin jare. The earth doesn't though .

Amos 9:6 who builds his upper chambers in the heavens and founds his vault upon the earth; who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out upon the surface of the earth— the Lord is his name.


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Horiolah:

Lol, i for flog craze comot for ur head if to say we dey close.

I knw u knw hw a telescope work, so stop d BS. Some guys are taking u serious.

TV01:
No, there probably is. Where it is is the question?

And, there is documented evidence of the sun and moon both being seen during a lunar eclipse. Also googleable

Psalm 104:5 He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved. That's a no!

What is space? And where does it begin? Biblically I don't believe we can escape the hard firmament. Nasa now says we can't escae the van allen belt - after having supposedly traversed it a half doxzen or so times during the Apollo missions


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TV01:


Have the ISS team been able to confirm the movement of the earth .


1 Chronicles 16:30 Tremble before him, all the earth; yes, the world is established; it shall never be moved.


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ThothHermes:
Found nothing. Maybe you'd help me.

You might want to help me with this NASA statement too

Annwrites:

TV01 you really tried.

I have learnt over the years to avoid unnecessary argument. When people want to stay ignorant while sounding woke, they will no matter how much one tries to convince them.

Back to the topic, as a believer of Christ, I believe the earth is flat. I did a personal research, came to this conclusion, and have the full backing of the Bible.

Without the research, the flat earth is glaring.

TV01:


https://ericdubay./2018/07/11/total-eclipse-of-the-mind/
www.helios7.com/nasa-lost-moon-technology/

The first 2 I chanced upon - there is a ton of stuff out there. It's so settled for me now that I've moved on. Like I did with the tithe issue when I first joined NL in 2006. Internet searches tend to suppress anything questioning heliocentrism so I'm not surprised.


Happy seeking

TV

ThothHermes:
First link is just reaching. Who was taking records of eclipses over hundreds of years? Eclipses do not have a fixed pattern of occurrence in a particular place. This is conspiracy nonsense. A lot of the eclipses are not even noticeable so how would you be able to consistently record?


Second link: NASA has a website. It's an organization with thousands of employees scattered around the planet and beyond. Why would they cover up something like that? Can you think of a motive. The Van Allen belt is dangerous but is bypassed by travelling through regions of low radiation.

Your statement about search engine suppression is hilarious. That's the problem with conspiracy theories; they give rise to more.
Now Google and Bing are also in on the cover-up.

Annwrites:

TV01 you really tried.

I have learnt over the years to avoid unnecessary argument. When people want to stay ignorant while sounding woke, they will no matter how much one tries to convince them.

Back to the topic, as a believer of Christ, I believe the earth is flat. I did a personal research, came to this conclusion, and have the full backing of the Bible.

Without the research, the flat earth is glaring.