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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Hairyrapunzel: 9:43pm On Mar 21, 2019 |
rainmaker12: Next time don't try to deceive people about blood transfusion. It's a modern medical procedure and God never said anything about it. FYI nobody has ever lived forever. So your living forever on earth it's only inside your head and your watchtower magazine. Next time do not make a statement like this: Save Life" Anybody that take blood transfusion will live forever? or they will still DIE eventually? Every human being will die one. Nobody has ever lived forever on earth. Blood transfusion is a medical procedure that gives a human being a chance at survival. Life on earth matters as it's the real life not the imaginary life in your paradise earth which is fake as it doesn't exist. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Nobody: 7:10am On Mar 22, 2019 |
*IN WHO'S BLOOD DID ALL ANCIENT SERVANTS OF GOD BELIEVE? *IS IT POSSIBLE TO GOD'S ANCIENT SERVANTS THAT PEOPLE CAN PRESERVE OR SAVE LIFE THROUGH ANYBODY'S BLOOD? *SOMEBODY SAID "ONLY JESUS' BLOOD CAN SAVE" IS THAT TRUE? *WHAT HAPPENS IF I DOUBT THE ASSURANCE OR DISBELIEVE IN JESUS' BLOOD? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Nobody: 8:07am On Mar 22, 2019 |
TATIME:If blood transfusion is meant for SAVING life,then there is no need to exercise any unwarranted faith in the blood of Jesus. Afterall the life of any human could be saved through the blood of any other human provided their is compatibility in the blood of the two intelligent creatures! According to an ancient servant of God called Paul, 'FAITH is the assured expectation of what we're hoping for,the evident demonstration of realities though not seen'. Now If he is correct and those claiming they BELIEVE in Jesus are expected to exercise faith in the power of his blood,then there is no sense in putting faith in the blood that people can't SEE, EXPERIMENT or SAMPLE when there are billions of blood samples that is readily available for screening in various laboratories across the globe to preserve them alife! This would have been a debate between believers [Christians] and none believers [atheists, muslims, buddists and so on]. All these other groups are supposed to be regarded as nonbelievers since their confidence is not in the BLOOD of Jesus. But surprisingly it's just one single organization[JWs] that's keeping the faith in ONLY the blood of Jesus for salvation! All other so called belivers are also opting for any kind of BLOOD so far such is PROBABLY going to save them from dying. Hmmm Satan is truly a genius in deception! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Nobody: 8:22am On Mar 22, 2019 |
Maximus69:I learnt so many things from JWs,but i must admit that this enlightenment came from your post Maximus! So i owe you a lot on this one my brother, God bless you! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Nobody: 9:18am On Mar 22, 2019 |
TATIME:Hmmm No Tatime! You and your folks are my teachers Sir. I've always admired your power of reasoning during comments and responses to different posts. I remembered you saying anyone can be better than you if such a person humbles himself to learn! Now i know what you meant back then. Though i'm still learning but at least for now i can explain so many things that i've learnt from the Bible without any feeling of intimidation before the so called religious title chiefs! Yes Tatime! Jesus' word is becoming real to me. 'you will know the truth and the truth will set [your mind] free!' from all the common religious beliefs and traditions of men! Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you! 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Hairyrapunzel: 10:41am On Mar 22, 2019 |
TATIME: Bible didn't mention blood transfusion. Blood transfusion is a medical procedure whether you like it or not. It gives you a chance at survival. Receiving blood transfusion doesn't mean you doubt the assurance or disbelieve in Jesus blood. If you are so sure of this your deceitful explanation you for give Bible verse. You believe in mere speculation/assumptions. No proof or biblical verse to back up your claim. Shame on your religion and it's illiterate leaders. Bible never mentioned the 20th century medical procedure called blood transfusion. You want to lie to us abi? We read our bibles o and we don't wait for some illiterates to interpret it for us. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Nobody: 11:25am On Mar 22, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel:I only asked four questions and what is expected of any commentator is response to address those questions. Jesus' followers only believe in the blood of Jesus for salvation and they clearly admonished one another to ABSTAIN from BLOOD. Act 15:28,29 So if modern day technology has now discovered that under certain conditions, the blood of any other person could also preserve the life of a Christian temporarily. Surely some Christians will agree and some will disagree,and whatever any group leaders conclude upon is what they'll tell their followers. Jehovah's Witnesses are just being loyal to their own teachers that's all,they're not forcing you to accept or reject blood transfusion, neither can you also force them to accept or reject it. So just as Maximus always responds to you,i'll also say PEACE! Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have peace! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Hairyrapunzel: 12:14pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
TATIME: You asked 4 questions yet you can't use Bible to give answer to those questions as it relates to blood transfusion a 20th century medical procedure. Lol. Assumer/speculator 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Nobody: 1:39pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel:I think those questions aren't meant to be answered by the same person asking, or why asking in the first instance? Any intelligent individual that's unbiased should know that these are thought provoking questions that is good as food for thoughts. This is why i always appease you since you often respond with aggression towards everything that comes from a supposed JW. Imagine hm saying 'JWs aren't forcing you to accept or reject blood transfusion,neither can you force your opinion on them' Sir that's the truth,everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Hairyrapunzel: 2:20pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Maximus69: When asking people questions have answers to those questions. Be asking question on Jesus Christ blood saving life so as to discredit blood transfusion is cunning and deceptive. Deal with it. Blood transfusion is a physical 20th century medical procedure that increases chances of survival and used in treatment in life on earth. Jesus Christ blood isn't a medical procedure. You don't even see it according to the Bible it leads to everlasting life. Aka spiritual thing No be every body be mugu. You want to assume/speculate. Your leaders told you blood transfusion is bad yet they accept blood components from blood donated by worldly, evil, unrighteous people. Your jehovah ought to be ashamed of itself or rather your leaders ought to be ashamed of themselves cause they formulate rubbish. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Hairyrapunzel: 2:23pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Maximus69: I am an intelligent person that's why I can spot the difference between a physical 20th century medical procedure and the writings in a holy book which is not physical. I ain't a dunce like you. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Nobody: 3:28pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel:Double responses towards just one single post? Please calm your mind Sir,because your burning fury can't do NOTHING So PEACE! Mr Hairyrapunzel,may you have Peace! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Hairyrapunzel: 4:08pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Maximus69: E don dey pain you say I get sense pass you abi? Lol. No be every body una fit deceive. Kpele and don't cry too much 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Nobody: 9:11pm On Mar 22, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel:Yes it's like he is shedding tears due to your comments that's hitting his body like koboko! So you should be happy now that a JW is crying because you're able to prove their organization can't deceive everybody! Everyone can notice that Mr Maximus is pained to his marrow hence he is begging,pleading and saying "PEACE, may you have Peace" Surely he don cry tire! Abeg laugh am wellawella! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Emypresh(m): 4:54pm On Apr 01, 2019 |
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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by saocv: 7:19pm On Apr 27, 2019 |
this is religion Seun: 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Emeraldz(f): 11:35am On Apr 29, 2019 |
Check out this decision of the court on blood transfusions in Jehovah witnesses' minors. In ESABUNOR & ANOR. vs. FAWEYA & ORS.(2019)LPELR-46961(SC) FACTS OF THE CASE The 2nd appellant is the mother of the 1st appellant. She gave birth to him on April 19, 1997 at the Chevron Clinic, Lekki Peninsula in Lagos. Within a month of his birth (i.e. on 11 May, 1997) he fell gravely ill. His mother, the 2nd appellant, took him back to the Chevron Clinic on 11 May, 1997 for urgent treatment. It was the 1st respondent who treated the 1st appellant. He found that the 1st appellant urgently needed blood transfusion. The 2nd respondent and her husband made it abundantly clear to the 1st respondent that on no account should their child (the 1st appellant) be given blood transfusion. Their reason being that there were several hazards that follows blood transfusion such as contracting Aids, Hepatitis etc and that as members of the Jehovah witness sect, blood transfusion was forbidden by their Religion. Dr Tunde Faweya (the 1st respondent) remained unyielding. The next day, the learned counsel for the Commissioner of Police, Lagos State moved an Originating Motion Exparte before the 5th respondent. The motion was brought under Section 27 (1) and (30) of the Children and Young Person’s Law Cap 25 of Lagos State. The relief sought was: “that the medical authorities of the Clinic of Chevron Nigeria Limited Lekki Peninsula Lagos be allowed and are hereby permitted to do all and anything necessary for the protection of the life and health of the child TEGA ESABUNOR and for such further order or orders as the Court may deem fit to make in the circumstances.” After hearing counsel, the Chief Magistrate granted the application under its inherent jurisdiction. On receipt of the Order of the Chief Magistrate, the 1st respondent administered blood transfusion on the 1st appellant on the same day. (i.e. May 12, 1997). The 1st appellant got well and was discharged. His mother took him home. On May 15, 1997 the 2nd appellant filed an application on notice wherein she sought for the setting aside of the order made on 12 May, 1997. The application was unsuccessful. It was dismissed on May 21, 1997. The appellants’ were dissatisfied with the proceedings before the Chief Magistrate, so they approached the High Court for an order of Certiorari and damages of N10 million. In a considered ruling delivered on May 28, 2001 the learned trial Judge refused their prayers and claims. The appellants’ were not satisfied with the ruling of the High Court. They filed an appeal. The Court of Appeal, Lagos Division, heard it and the decision of the High Court was affirmed. Further dissatisfied, the Appellants appealed to the Supreme Court. ISSUE: (4) Whether the Court of Appeal was correct in holding that the 2nd Appellants’ refusal to give consent to blood transfusion amounted to an attempt to commit a crime or to allow the 1st Appellant to die. RESOLUTION OF ISSUE NUMBER 4/PRINCIPLE: Resolving issue 4, the Supreme Court stated that an adult who is conscious and in full control of his mental capacity, and of sound mind has the right to either accept or refuse blood (medical treatment). The hospital has no choice but to respect their patient's wishes. When it involves a child, the Supreme Court stated that different considerations apply and this is so because a child is incapable of making decisions for himself and the law is duty bound to protect such a person from abuse of his rights as he may grow up and disregard those religious beliefs. It makes no difference if the decision to deny him blood transfusion is made by his parents. See M.D.P.D.T. v.Okonkwo (2001) 7NWLR (Pt.711) P.206. The Supreme Court held that when a competent parent or one in loco parentis refuses blood transfusion or medical treatment for her child on religious grounds, the Court should step in, consider the baby’s welfare, i.e. saving the life and the best interest of the child, before a decision is taken. These considerations outweigh religious beliefs of the Jehovah Witness Sect. The decision should be to allow the administration of blood transfusion especially in life threatening situations. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by kilojoDesigns: 8:31pm On Jun 07, 2019 |
Seun: Lol, many have shown up but put disclaimers in their posts |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Milnes: 9:57am On Sep 02, 2019 |
The verse mentioned 'abstaining from things being strangled'which literally means not having anything to do with things that are not properly slaughtered. Properly slaughtering an animal according to the bible is 'burying the blood of whatever animal it is youre trying to eat after slaughtering' you'll never see a JW killing an animal and just letting the blood flow in the streets or pouring its blood down the sink. They kury the blood of the anumalebeeing slaughtered before eating the animal. alBHAGDADI: |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by Hairyrapunzel: 7:16pm On Sep 19, 2019 |
Milnes: Since jw eat animals they should also eat human beings too. At least since acts did not differentiate the blood they should start eating humans. In fact since jw love burying blood. I think worldly people should start burying their blood too instead of donating it for jw to get components/fractions. Your jehovah aka governing body aka leaders said donating blood and receiving blood from human being is bad but receiving components/fractions of blood gotten from worldly blood donors and also receiving polyheme from cow blood are good. I don't know if it's your jehovah or your leaders that are lying. Well I believe since bible did not state all these let's just say your leaders have been lying to you guys. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by RussellRutherfo: 12:19pm On Mar 27, 2020 |
fratermathy: The Cult calls itself a religion or simply refers to itself as "The Truth". Haha! The only problem is that this "Truth" is continuously flip-flopping. Today, it is the "Truth". Tomorrow, it is "Old Truth" and next tomorrow, it becomes "Current Progressive New light truth". 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by RussellRutherfo: 12:22pm On Mar 27, 2020 |
alBHAGDADI: Most of your posts are usually so deep in the Bible. You have got a good knowledge of it. You a Theologian? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by RussellRutherfo: 3:30pm On Mar 27, 2020 |
Hairyrapunzel: Haha! They refuse blood transfusion but eat Pork and Fats which is not Kosher in the Old Testament. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by RussellRutherfo: 3:47pm On Mar 27, 2020 |
Hairyrapunzel: Solid points you put out here. This would mean that Jehovah Witnesses who did blood transfusion say in 1943 and 1944 ALLL wasted their time and won't be "resurrected"... The 8-member false&non-discreet slave needs to be tried at ICC for the crimes against humanity that they have committed. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by RussellRutherfo: 5:26pm On Mar 27, 2020 |
Humchi: You no lie. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by RussellRutherfo: 5:36pm On Mar 27, 2020 |
Seun: Their religion also indirectly forbids them from the type of Sport, fame and wealth that Serena has. Blood Transfusion is not the only problem here. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses: Why Are Blood Transfusions So Bad? by RussellRutherfo: 5:51pm On Mar 27, 2020 |
achorladey: You have to understand that they are masters of flip-flopping. It's always some "New Light" |
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