Seun:
Dear Jehovah's Witnesses,

When I heard that Serena Williams almost died during the birth of her child, I couldn’t understand why a strong and rich lady like her in a first world country would face such difficulties. When I learned that she is a Jehovah's Witness I immediately understood what the problem was.

Please help me to understand why blood transfusions are so bad. What makes you think that God is against life-saving blood transfusions? Why would God give doctors the wisdom to perform life-saving blood transfusions and then forbid his followers from accepting them?

Please don’t just copy and paste content from apologetics websites. Use your own words and reasons to explain what you personally believe.

MetroBaba1:
Oga Seun, Direct Your Question To www.jw.org

AutoElectNG:


https://www.jw.org/en/medical-library/ lots of peer reviewed literature in support of their position

Genesis 9:4. God allowed Noah and his family to add animal flesh to their diet after the Flood but commanded them not to eat the blood. God told Noah: “Only flesh with its soul—its blood—you must not eat.” This command applies to all mankind from that time on because all are descendants of Noah.

Leviticus 17:14. “You must not eat the blood of any sort of flesh, because the soul of every sort of flesh is its blood. Anyone eating it will be cut off.” God viewed the soul, or life, as being in the blood and belonging to him. Although this law was given only to the nation of Israel, it shows how seriously God viewed the law against eating blood.

Acts 15:20. “Abstain . . . from blood.” God gave Christians the same command that he had given to Noah. History shows that early Christians refused to consume whole blood or even to use it for medical reason

Even the US Army decided to pay attention to it for a number of reasons
http://m.digitaljournal.com/article/287219

Arguably the best hospital in the world has a bloodless medicine center
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/bloodless_medicine_surgery/index.htm

Hairyrapunzel:


At least in blood transfusion people don't get to eat the human being who donate blood. Bible was specific on what to eat and not eat.






At least this verse only talks about animals to be used as food. Not once does bible makes reference to the medical procedure called blood transfusion. So we all agree that its just an assumption that is also a speculation made by jws.



You even have to lie on early Christians not using WHOLE BLOOD even for medical reasons.
Read about history of blood transfusion you will see that early Christians did not even know jack about blood transfusion.
Why lie about blood transfusion done in the time of the early Christians and you don't even have a reference.

Is this how you guys cook up stories just to make your doctrines look like it was mentioned in the bible?
I know jws first banned all forms of blood in 1945. They even banned vaccination and organ transplant around the same time.

But you know what? They banned vaccination for 13yrs and organ transplant for 26years.

Do you know that currently your leaders don't ban all components of blood? That it is just whole blood they ban?
Bible says abstain from blood and your leaders translate blood to whole blood transfusion?
Bible didn't even talk of components or fractions of blood to be accepted. Yet your leaders made a list of fractions to be accepted. Who is deceiving who.

Do you know your leaders added white blood cells and platelets as fractions their members can accept 2 years ago?

Do you know that these fractions/components of blood are gotten from blood donated by wordly, wicked, evil,unrighteous people? people who you consider pagans and satan worshippers?

You guys The so called followers of jehovah can never donate blood to save yourselves or another person yet you accept components of blood from blood donated by Satan worshippers.

Your leaders are masters of cherry picking.

Just say it's what your leaders want and not what the bible says. Stop blaming non biblical doctrines/beliefs on the bible.





The US army last time I checked has not stopped doing blood transfusion. You are making a false impression about a situation. They adopted something doesn't mean they abandoned blood transfusion. Read things with sense.
Do you know when your so called bloodless surgery and medicine fails the last resort is blood transfusion?




Still johns Hopkins has never abandoned blood transfusion.
Do you know there are indications and contraindications to bloodless surgery?
Always read with sense.

Meanwhile FDA banned polyheme and hemopure (from cow blood) that jws were championing because of deaths it caused. Think of the number of jws used as lab rats that died before the ban.

Every drug or medical procedure has a propensity for producing adverse effects. Don't come here to lie about things that your leaders are illiterate about.

alBHAGDADI:

OneJ barristter07 Tatime jozzy4

Is this thread too hot?

true2god:
JW official website that was designed to promote their beliefs and theology! How do you think he will get a balanced and uncompromised information from www.JW.org?

What Seun is asking is an independent response from the JWs, using their God-gjven brains. The truth is that if tomorrow the GB, at Brooklyn NY headquarters of JW, change their doctrine of this 'blood transfusion' issue, all JW zombies will immediately adjust to the 'new and brighter light'.

Why can't an average JW reason independently free from the manipulation and brainwashing of the 'watchtower organization'?

OneJ:

"Abstain from blood" na Arabic language wey una no fit understand wetin eee mean?

Blood is sacred , whether human or animal, God no dey joke with. am.

Don't come here to lie that "abstain from blood" does not mean U can not accept blood transfusion.


If your personal physician warned U to abstain from nicotine, & U went behind his back to use needle to inject yourself with that same substance into your body, have U obeyed or disobeyed your physician ?

Don't come here to distort Jesus ransom sacrifice for man's salvation.

Did Jesus give U his blood to transfuse into your body?

Jesus said "if anyone wants to come after me,let him disown himself..." Mark 8:34-37.
That is life of obedience & self sacrifice.

JWs are exclusively dedicated to do Jehovah's will in imitation of Jesus Christ who obeyed his Father, Jehovah in everything. We live for Jehovah & his son Jesus Christ .Rom14:7-9.

Jehovah values obedience (1 Sam 15:22,23) & faith in his word /promises. JWs have faith in Jesus words & God's promises This life is not all there is. Our faith is anchored firmly on the resurrection hope.
1 Pet 1:3. John 11:23-25. Rev 21:3-5. 2Pet 3:13.

If some one puts a gun to your head to renounce your faith/beliefs, your life is at stake, would U chicken out & take the easy option?

Jesus did not chicken out, that is why today we celebrate him,likewise Abraham. Their faith stood out.

If U don't have the faith in God's word to "abstain from blood" & his promises, to bring the dead back. to life, U have no right to be unduly critical of those who do.

Jehovah is the source of life, he has the sole right to determine how man should treat blood
Man can not know what God knows on this matter.

Them go dey talk like say blood transfusion na holy grail of medical treatment.

I was at a major hospital recently when 3 children were rushed into the. A& E, all of them received blood transfusion everyday, but sadly on the 4th day of their admission, they all passed away.
If them be JW,just imagine the news story headlines....

JWs are forever committed to the best Medicare available except..... what U already know, no blood transfusion. Pls visit www.Jw.org, to learn more about JWs.
Shalom.

OneJ:

"Abstain from blood" na Arabic language wey una no fit understand wetin eee mean?

Blood is sacred , whether human or animal, God no dey joke with. am.

Don't come here to lie that "abstain from blood" does not mean U can not accept blood transfusion.

If your personal physician warned U to abstain from nicotine, & U went behind his back to use needle to inject yourself with that same substance into your body, have U obeyed or disobeyed your physician ?

Don't come here to distort Jesus ransom sacrifice for man's salvation.

Did Jesus give U his blood to transfuse into your body?

Jesus said "if anyone wants to come after me,let him disown himself..." Mark 8:34-37.
That is life of obedience & self sacrifice.

JWs are exclusively dedicated to do Jehovah's will in imitation of Jesus Christ who obeyed his Father, Jehovah in everything. We live for Jehovah & his son Jesus Christ .Rom14:7-9.

Jehovah values obedience (1 Sam 15:22,23) & faith in his word /promises. JWs have faith in Jesus words & God's promises This life is not all there is. Our faith is anchored firmly on the resurrection hope.
1 Pet 1:3. John 11:23-25. Rev 21:3-5. 2Pet 3:13.

If some one puts a gun to your head to renounce your faith/beliefs, your life is at stake, would U chicken out & take the easy option?

Jesus did not chicken out, that is why today we celebrate him,likewise Abraham. Their faith stood out.

If U don't have the faith in God's word to "abstain from blood" & his promises, to bring the dead back. to life, U have no right to be unduly critical of those who do

Jehovah is the source of life, he has the sole right to determine how man should treat blood
Man can not know what God knows on this matter

Them go dey talk like say blood transfusion na holy grail of medical treatment.

I was at a major hospital recently when 3 children were rushed into the. A& E, all of them received blood transfusion everyday, but sadly on the 4th day of their admission, they all passed away.
If them be JW,just imagine the news story headlines....

JWs are forever committed to the best Medicare available except..... what U already know, no blood transfusion. Pls visit www.Jw.org, to learn more about JWs.
Shalom.

OneJ:


Keep quiet there. Na who dey wash your brain? The Israelites were united under the leadership of Moses, na U wash their brain ? Jesus Christ united his followers under his leadership, na U wash their brain? His followers sought direction from the older men in Jerusalem, na U wash their brain?

The Cosmos is well designed & organized by the ALMIGHTY God, if such inanimate celestial bodies are in order ,no chaos, what would U expect from a group of humans,although imperfect, but who strive to reverence the ALMIGHTY God Jehovah?
U prefer them to wallow in chaos, infighting & diverse factions.
Pls , its high time U go see a shrink.
Shalom.

OneJ:

"Abstain from blood" na Arabic language wey una no fit understand wetin eee mean?

Blood is sacred , whether human or animal, God no dey joke with. am.

Don't come here to lie that "abstain from blood" does not mean U can not accept blood transfusion.


If your personal physician warned U to abstain from nicotine, & U went behind his back to use needle to inject yourself with that same substance into your body, have U obeyed or disobeyed your physician ?

Don't come here to distort Jesus ransom sacrifice for man's salvation.

Did Jesus give U his blood to transfuse into your body?

Jesus said "if anyone wants to come after me,let him disown himself..." Mark 8:34-37.
That is life of obedience & self sacrifice.

JWs are exclusively dedicated to do Jehovah's will in imitation of Jesus Christ who obeyed his Father, Jehovah in everything. We live for Jehovah & his son Jesus Christ .Rom14:7-9.

Jehovah values obedience (1 Sam 15:22,23) & faith in his word /promises. JWs have faith in Jesus words & God's promises This life is not all there is. Our faith is anchored firmly on the resurrection hope.
1 Pet 1:3. John 11:23-25. Rev 21:3-5. 2Pet 3:13.

If some one puts a gun to your head to renounce your faith/beliefs, your life is at stake, would U chicken out & take the easy option?

Jesus did not chicken out, that is why today we celebrate him,likewise Abraham. Their faith stood out.

If U don't have the faith in God's word to "abstain from blood" & his promises, to bring the dead back. to life, U have no right to be unduly critical of those who do.

Jehovah is the source of life, he has the sole right to determine how man should treat blood
Man can not know what God knows on this matter.

Them go dey talk like say blood transfusion na holy grail of medical treatment.

I was at a major hospital recently when 3 children were rushed into the. A& E, all of them received blood transfusion everyday, but sadly on the 4th day of their admission, they all passed away.
If them be JW,just imagine the news story headlines....

JWs are forever committed to the best Medicare available except..... what U already know, no blood transfusion. Pls visit www.Jw.org, to learn more about JWs.
Shalom.

OneJ:


Keep quiet there. Na who dey wash your brain? The Israelites were united under the leadership of Moses, na U wash their brain ? Jesus Christ united his followers under his leadership, na U wash their brain? His followers sought direction from the older men in Jerusalem, na U wash their brain?

The Cosmos is well designed & organized by the ALMIGHTY God, if such inanimate celestial bodies are in order ,no chaos, what would U expect from a group of humans,although imperfect, but who strive to reverence the ALMIGHTY God Jehovah?
U prefer them to wallow in chaos, infighting & diverse factions.
Pls , its high time U go see a shrink.
Shalom.

alBHAGDADI:
Then why do you hypocrites slam Catholics for being under one man - Pope?

You point one finger at others but have four pointing back at you.

Yours is even worse because your GB speak when God has not spoken. They make false end time prophecies. They even said Jesus returned to earth at one time.

How can one follow I men who say the world will end at a certain date when Jesus said no man knows the time?

If you say GB are imperfect, then what is their imperfection?

alBHAGDADI:
Why are you committed to the best medicare? Why not stay away from medicine and rely on Jehovah to sustain your life?

That verse says abstain from blood. So, let me ask you: Do you touch the blood of chicken when you slaughter them? Do you touch the blood of fish when you are washing them to cook?

Yes you do. Can we now say you have obeyed that version that says abstain from blood? If JW can stretch the verse to mean something as huge as blood transfusion, which the verse doesn't say, then I wonder why they disobey the little ones such as touching the blood of a slaughtered animal.

Everyone knows the verse is talking about animal blood, not human blood. That was the same commandment given in the old testament. But you JW who teach the doctrines of men GB as commandments of God have stretched it to mean we are to abstain from human blood. That means doctors aren't to touch the blood of someone undergoing surgery. Even an injured person must not touch his own. blood.

Taking blood transfusion is not renouncing ones faith. There is no command that kicks against it. You guys just twisted a simple verse to say what it doesn't say.

I understand that the verse in Acts 15 wasn't quite specific as to the kind of blood one needs to stay away from. But as Bible students, when confronted with such, what is expected to do is to use scripture to interpret scripture.

Now, look at some of the passages talking about abstaining from blood. You can see that they all have to do with EATING ANIMAL BLOOD. I now wonder how you guys twisted Acts 15:29 to mean what it doesn't say.


Leviticus 17:14
For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.

Genesis 9:4
But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
Deuteronomy 12:23 ESV / 108 helpful votes
Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh.

Acts 15:29
But should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood.

Leviticus 3:17
It shall be a statute forever throughout your generations, in all your dwelling places, that you eat neither fat nor blood.”

Leviticus 17:10
“If any one of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn among them eats any blood, I will set my face against that person who eats blood and will cut him off from among his people.

Acts 15:29
That you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

Deuteronomy 12:16
Only you shall not eat the blood; you shall pour it out on the earth like water.

Mark 7:18-19
And he said to them, “Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.)

Leviticus 17:11
For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life.

mictima:



Quick question sir:
1. About Those that died as a result rejecting blood transfusion; can we say that they were destined to die that way?

2. And that, does Jehovah want them dead? Or what exactly!

3. For those that died, can we rightly say that, the power and light could not save them? So Long, they stood their ground and maintained their Faith and rejected the blood transfusion in the first place?

Please, I need answer to these

As far as I Know, I think, the importance is to help ourselves till it gets out of hand...

You mentioned "chickened out"! What happens to self will? Why the advancement of knowledge if we won't better our lives with whatever we discover with our brains?

You also mentioned that, "three Children died after receiving blood transfusion for three days"... what about. Those that have been saved by the same transfusuion? My little niece was still saved 3days ago after being diagnosed with complex febrile convulsion and severe anaemia!

Well, wetin Be My own? Everybody Has His/her Life to live!

alBHAGDADI:

OneJ barristter07 Tatime jozzy4

Is this thread too hot?

OneJ:


"They even said Jesus returned to earth at one time", must U lie because U disagreed with JW bible based beliefs ?

Barristter07:


Your response to the question on either Jesus died or not still pending. If you get mind try am

OneJ:

Your niece survived blood transfusion. It's your life your choice.

Many people today, JWs & non JWs alike have had major surgeries without blood transfusions and survived,healthy and strong. Overall, they enjoyed better health than recipients of blood transfusion. Its a fact confirmed by medical professionals.


To your first three questions, when God commanded Abraham to use his only begotten son for a sacrifice, from a human standpoint, did made any sense?
Again, did God not know that Abraham's only begotten son would lose his life in order for Abraham to fulfill God's command?

"it is not my portion gang", all of una wan go heaven, but none of una wanna die for faith/beliefs, if unforeseen circumstances make it so obvious. Make una no worry ,NASA spacecraft dey come transport una go there ni.... Fairweather Churchianity. Lol.

Faith doesn't make sense to anyone who doesn't believe in it (unbelievers).

OneJ:


Because u wanna make your point, u resorted to twist "abstain from blood" when U already know that God's edict prohibited u from putting any kind of blood into your body. Oma shey ooo !

The thing dey for market na, go buy am & transfuse na, its guarantees longevity.
Lols.

alBHAGDADI:


So because of an issue in another thread, you won't defend your doctrine on this one?

Just admit you can't defend this blood transfusion doctrine.

Mind you, I see no reason why is should be debating whether Jesus died or not with you, when history agrees he did.

Plz, don't use that to derail this thread.

alBHAGDADI:
Where did God's edict state that we shouldn't put ANY kind of blood into our body?

Didn't I just show you that all the verses talking about staying away from blood are talking about EATING ANIMAL BLOOD?

If you JW could extend it to mean blood transfusion, I wonder why you are comfortable touching blood of fish and chicken, even your own blood. Or doesn't the verse say abstain from blood?

You might as well drain all the blood in your body to fully obey the doctrine "abstain from blood".

Barristter07:


Why did David pour out the water his men brought from Philistine camp ?

He likened it to animal or human blood ?

What does that reveal?

Barristter07:


Why did David pour out the water his men brought from Philistine camp ?

He likened it to animal or human blood ?

What does that reveal?

Afam4eva:
The same question should be directed at all Christian and religious denominations. it seems to me that some of us who see ourselves as liberal Christians are not aware that to someone else, specifically atheist that we're just as delusional. So, i don't know what right we have to questions someone else's religious belief.

It is a religious belief and doesn't have to make sense to people who are not of the same belief. They have their reasons for doing what they do no matter how ludicrous it may sound.

alBHAGDADI:



Acts 15:20

But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and
from blood.

Jehovah's witnesses are refusing blood transfusion simply because of the verses above. It's funny because the verse doesn't say anything about blood transfusion, it just says abstain from blood.

If JW say we should abstain from blood transfusion because of the verse, then how come they don't also say people should not even touch blood of animals they slaughter?

Illuminatus:



Women should abstain from their menstrual discharge, and healthcare providers who invariably come in contact with blood daily are hell bound. Lol.

Afam4eva:
The same question should be directed at all Christian and religious denominations. it seems to me that some of us who see ourselves as liberal Christians are not aware that to someone else, specifically atheist that we're just as delusional. So, i don't know what right we have to questions someone else's religious belief.

It is a religious belief and doesn't have to make sense to people who are not of the same belief. They have their reasons for doing what they do no matter how ludicrous it may sound.