Barristter07:


That of David is a principle, Jesus was establishing a Covenant .




Someone already explains that abstain has nothing to do with touch , the Early Christians recognize that the priest at the temple comes in contact with blood in the discharge of their duty.


Humans bleed when injured and preserving the wound's would require contact with blood ( See the story of the Good Samaritan Luke 10:34)

Your reasoning is flawed , it deals with consumption . and earlier it has been established that this includes both man and animals blood .

Your leaders now even decide what a principle is and what a covenant is in the Bible.
In fact covenant is figurative to them while principle is literal to them.
Everything David did and said is literal while everything Jesus did and said is figurative.
They just guessed that it had to be like that so their doctrines can be seen as literal while the things refuting their doctrines are figurative.

Lol.

Una even they shame to quote the verses where animals humans(Israelites) were killed and used as sacrifice and food and their blood poured on the floor and used for atonement of sins so we can even believe you.


Be shouting blood of any creature round the whole place yet no verse to show us human blood being used Abi e no dey bible?.

Barristter07:


That of David is a principle, Jesus was establishing a Covenant .




Someone already explains that abstain has nothing to do with touch , the Early Christians recognize that the priest at the temple comes in contact with blood in the discharge of their duty.


Humans bleed when injured and preserving the wound's would require contact with blood ( See the story of the Good Samaritan Luke 10:34)

Your reasoning is flawed , it deals with consumption . and earlier it has been established that this includes both man and animals blood .

So now abstain doesn't have anything to do with touch? Whereas you have been shouting that abstaining from blood involves everything about blood.


Do you consume fornication? Since abstain from blood means abstaining from consumption there fore abstaining from fornication means abstaining from consumption of fornication.

See someone saying someone's reasoning is flawed trying to insert a word in a place where it isn't mentioned.

So now you know a human bleeds when injured. Lol

I thought human blood is supposed to be poured on the floor because it is sacred. Why would the human being touch his blood to prevent it from pouring on the floor?

You even have to use preservation of wound. I can see you are really ignorant about human life. So they an injured person will come in contact with his blood to preserve the wound. Are you alright?


Shame did not allow you say the person will do that to stop bleeding so as to prevent death. Illiterate and you will be posing anyhow that you don't need blood transfusion cause your leaders have found an alternative. Lol

Barristter07:


That of David is a principle, Jesus was establishing a Covenant .




Someone already explains that abstain has nothing to do with touch , the Early Christians recognize that the priest at the temple comes in contact with blood in the discharge of their duty.


Humans bleed when injured and preserving the wound's would require contact with blood ( See the story of the Good Samaritan Luke 10:34)

Your reasoning is flawed , it deals with consumption . and earlier it has been established that this includes both man and animals blood .

The priests poured the blood on the floor na. Why is this injured person preserving his wound when he is supposed to let his blood pour on the floor? He did not follow Davids principle o. Jehovah must hear this.

Barristter07:


Anal sex and Vagina sex , which is not fornication ? Going by your flawed logic, a person has obeyed the instruction to abstain fornication as long as vagina is untouched, IF DONE THROUGH ANOTHER ROUTE

Either Man or Animal blood, do not consume " ANY BLOOD " at all - Lev 3:17

That prohibition came before the Law, confirmed by the Law and continue to exist after the Law

Leviticus 3:17 is the sucker punch....I am a busy man...otherwise I would have responded to the s goings on here....this verse doesn't say animal, and its choice of words makes it all compassing, animal or human pour it out, don't ingest orally or intravenously

Nice job

AutoElectNG:


Leviticus 3:17 is the sucker punch....I am a busy man...otherwise I would have responded to the s goings on here....this verse doesn't say animal, and its choice of words makes it all compassing, animal or human pour it out, don't ingest orally or intravenously

Nice job

Which sucker punch?
Is it that you just take a phrase from a whole chapter and convert it to your sucker punch?

HERE IS MY OWN SUCKER PUNCH

HOW MANY TIMES DID THE CHAPTER MENTION ANIMALS, LAMBS AND GOAT AND WHAT DID THEY USE THEM FOR?

HOW MANY TIMES DID THE CHAPTER MENTION HUMAN BEINGS AND WHAT DID THEY USE THEM FOR/WHAT WAS THEIR ROLE?

SUCKER PUNCH INDEED

IT'S LIKE YOU GUYS THINK WE ARE DAFT O
Leveticus 3:1-17

3 “‘If your offering is a fellowship offering, and you offer an animal from the herd, whether male or female, you are to present before the Lord an animal without defect. 2 You [b]are to lay your hand on the head of your offering and slaughter it at the entrance to the tent of meeting. Then Aaron’s sons the priests shall splash the blood against the sides of the altar. 3 From the fellowship offering you are to bring a food offering to the Lord: the internal organs and all the fat that is connected to them, 4 both kidneys with the fat on them near the loins, and the long lobe of the liver, which you will remove with the kidneys. 5 Then Aaron’s sons are to burn it on the altar on top of the burnt offering that is lying on the burning wood; it is a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the Lord.

6 “‘If you offer an animal from the flock as a fellowship offering to the Lord, you are to offer a male or female without defect. 7 If you offer a lamb, you are to present it before the Lord, 8lay your hand on its head and slaughter it in front of the tent of meeting[/b]. Then Aaron’s sons shall splash its blood against the sides of the altar. 9 From the fellowship offering you are to bring a food offering to the Lord: its fat, the entire fat tail cut off close to the backbone, the internal organs and all the fat that is connected to them, 10 both kidneys with the fat on them near the loins, and the long lobe of the liver, which you will remove with the kidneys. 11 The priest shall burn them on the altar as a food offering presented to the Lord.

12 “‘If your offering is a goat, you are to present it before the Lord, 13 lay your hand on its head and slaughter it in front of the tent of meeting. Then Aaron’s sons shall splash its blood against the sides of the altar. 14 From what you offer you are to present this food offering to the Lord: the internal organs and all the fat that is connected to them, 15 both kidneys with the fat on them near the loins, and the long lobe of the liver, which you will remove with the kidneys. 16 The priest shall burn them on the altar as a food offering, a pleasing aroma. All the fat is the Lord’s.

17 “‘[b]This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: You must not eat any fat or any blood.’”




YOU EVEN HAVE TO LIE TO PUT SOMETHING NEVER MENTIONED IN THE WHOLE CHAPTER. WOW

NOW FRUSTRATION HAS SET IN

YOUR BEHAVIOUR IS NOT SURPRISING. WHEN YOU SEE THAT ALL YOU BELIEVE IS ALL A LIE PROPAGATED BY A PSYCHOTIC HUMAN BEING WHO WAS AN ILLITERATE

Barristter07:
That of David is a principle, Jesus was establishing a Covenant .

I known you will twist it but I won't allow that.

Do you drink the blood of Jesus as a covenant practice or the covenant stopped after Jesus established it?

Let's see whether the holy communion you've been partaking with JWs all these while are in vain.

I know if possible for you people you can tell us that the verse doesn't include Jesus blood.

Someone already explains that abstain has nothing to do with touch , the Early Christians recognize that the priest at the temple comes in contact with blood in the discharge of their duty.


Humans bleed when injured and preserving the wound's would require contact with blood ( See the story of the Good Samaritan Luke 10:34)

Your reasoning is flawed , it deals with consumption . and earlier it has been established that this includes both man and animals blood .

The person explained nothing.
The verse says ABSTAIN never specified whether to touch or inject, you're the one who differentiate it.

Abstain also mean avoid contact.... just proof me wrong on that first.

Emusan:


I known you will twist it but I won't allow that.

Do you drink the blood of Jesus as a covenant practice or the covenant stopped after Jesus established it?

Let's see whether the holy communion you've been partaking with JWs all these while are in vain.

I know if possible for you people you can tell us that the verse doesn't include Jesus blood.



The person explained nothing.
The verse says ABSTAIN never specified whether to touch or inject, you're the one who differentiate it.

Abstain also mean avoid contact.... just proof me wrong on that first.

Don't mind barrister07 assumer.
Jesus Christ wine (blood)/covenant is figurative while David's water/principle (blood) is literal

The extent these people will go to justify their non biblical doctrines no be here.
All of a sudden abstain doesn't mean contact. Lol

Emusan:


I known you will twist it but I won't allow that.

Do you drink the blood of Jesus as a covenant practice or the covenant stopped after Jesus established it?

Let's see whether the holy communion you've been partaking with JWs all these while are in vain.

I know if possible for you people you can tell us that the verse doesn't include Jesus blood.



The person explained nothing.
The verse says ABSTAIN never specified whether to touch or inject, you're the one who differentiate it.

Abstain also mean avoid contact.... just proof me wrong on that first.

Clever sophistry.

Did Jesus apostles & disciples ever consumed his blood?
Emusan, in the context of Acts 15:20,29, U already know the meaning of "abstain".

Emusan,when U eat strangled meat, have U abstained from blood? When U do blood oath, have U abstained from blood? When U fornicate,have U abstained from blood?

In all these instances stated above, blood from another source enters your blood stream.

That is what your Bible condemns.


Blood transfusions is "the transfer of blood or blood products from one person (donor) into another person's blood stream (recipient)"
Source: medicine.net.

Emusan, when U do blood transfusions , have U abstained from blood?
Shalom

OneJ:


Clever sophistry.

Did Jesus apostles & disciples ever consumed his blood?
Emusan, in the context of Acts 15:20,29, U already know the meaning of "abstain".

Emusan,when U eat strangled meat, have U abstained from blood? When U do blood oath, have U abstained from blood? When U fornicate,have U abstained from blood?

In all these instances stated above, blood from another source enters your blood stream.

Blood transfusions is "the transfer of blood or blood products from one person (donor) into another person's blood stream (recipient)"
Source: medicine.net.

Emusan, when U do blood transfusions , have U abstained from blood?
Shalom

@Bold

According to you, when one fornicates, a sexual process through which there can be exchange of blood, such a person has not abstained from blood.

So I ask: What about the sexual process that occurs in a marriage approved by God? Is the blood exchanged that takes place approved by God?

If it is approved by God because they are married, then should there be any problem when a husband decides to donate blood to his sick wife, which is similar to what occurs when they have sex?

Can you now see how your analogy is flawed?

OneJ:


Clever sophistry.

Did Jesus apostles & disciples ever consumed his blood?
Emusan, in the context of Acts 15:20,29, U already know the meaning of "abstain".

Emusan,when U eat strangled meat, have U abstained from blood? When U do blood oath, have U abstained from blood? When U fornicate,have U abstained from blood?

In all these instances stated above, blood from another source enters your blood stream.

That is what your Bible condemns.


Blood transfusions is "the transfer of blood or blood products from one person (donor) into another person's blood stream (recipient)"
Source: medicine.net.

Emusan, when U do blood transfusions , have U abstained from blood?
Shalom

Did David ever throw the blood of his men on the floor?
That means they were told not to eat blood of animals they used as food.

When you take components/products/fractions of blood have you abstained from blood?

When you accept autologous blood transfusion aka bloodless surgery have you abstained from blood?

alBHAGDADI:


That link doesn't say blood transfusion is feeding.

Stop lying.

Feeding is making use of anything that will later be passed out through faeces. Blood is not digested or passed out through feeding when taken in through transfusion. It remains blood for as long as the person is alive.

Intravenous feeding involves taking in nutrients through fluids when a person is sick and can't eat. What happens to the nutrients? They get used up and passed out through faeces

alBHAGDADI your blood no get waste products wey your body's excretory system dey remove?

As food get waste products naso blood too get waste products. No dull yourself.

OneJ:



alBHAGDADI your blood no get waste products wey your body's excretory system dey remove?

As food get waste products naso blood too get waste products. No dull yourself.

When you accept blood products/components/fractions have you abstained from blood?

When you accept autologous blood transfusion aka bloodless surgery have you abstained from blood?

OneJ:



alBHAGDADI your blood no get waste products wey your body's excretory system dey remove?

As food get waste products naso blood too get waste products. No dull yourself.

Please what's the waste products of blood biko?

Hairyrapunzel:



Which sucker punch?
Is it that you just take a phrase from a whole chapter and convert it to your sucker punch?

HERE IS MY OWN SUCKER PUNCH

HOW MANY TIMES DID THE CHAPTER MENTION ANIMALS, LAMBS AND GOAT AND WHAT DID THEY USE THEM FOR?

HOW MANY TIMES DID THE CHAPTER MENTION HUMAN BEINGS AND WHAT DID THEY USE THEM FOR/WHAT WAS THEIR ROLE?

SUCKER PUNCH INDEED

IT'S LIKE YOU GUYS THINK WE ARE DAFT O
Leveticus 3:1-17

3 “‘If your offering is a fellowship offering, and you offer an animal from the herd, whether male or female, you are to present before the Lord an animal without defect. 2 You [b]are to lay your hand on the head of your offering and slaughter it at the entrance to the tent of meeting. Then Aaron’s sons the priests shall splash the blood against the sides of the altar. 3 From the fellowship offering you are to bring a food offering to the Lord: the internal organs and all the fat that is connected to them, 4 both kidneys with the fat on them near the loins, and the long lobe of the liver, which you will remove with the kidneys. 5 Then Aaron’s sons are to burn it on the altar on top of the burnt offering that is lying on the burning wood; it is a food offering, an aroma pleasing to the Lord.

6 “‘If you offer an animal from the flock as a fellowship offering to the Lord, you are to offer a male or female without defect. 7 If you offer a lamb, you are to present it before the Lord, 8lay your hand on its head and slaughter it in front of the tent of meeting[/b]. Then Aaron’s sons shall splash its blood against the sides of the altar. 9 From the fellowship offering you are to bring a food offering to the Lord: its fat, the entire fat tail cut off close to the backbone, the internal organs and all the fat that is connected to them, 10 both kidneys with the fat on them near the loins, and the long lobe of the liver, which you will remove with the kidneys. 11 The priest shall burn them on the altar as a food offering presented to the Lord.

12 “‘If your offering is a goat, you are to present it before the Lord, 13 lay your hand on its head and slaughter it in front of the tent of meeting. Then Aaron’s sons shall splash its blood against the sides of the altar. 14 From what you offer you are to present this food offering to the Lord: the internal organs and all the fat that is connected to them, 15 both kidneys with the fat on them near the loins, and the long lobe of the liver, which you will remove with the kidneys. 16 The priest shall burn them on the altar as a food offering, a pleasing aroma. All the fat is the Lord’s.

17 “‘[b]This is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come, wherever you live: You must not eat any fat or any blood.’”




YOU EVEN HAVE TO LIE TO PUT SOMETHING NEVER MENTIONED IN THE WHOLE CHAPTER. WOW

NOW FRUSTRATION HAS SET IN

YOUR BEHAVIOUR IS NOT SURPRISING. WHEN YOU SEE THAT ALL YOU BELIEVE IS ALL A LIE PROPAGATED BY A PSYCHOTIC HUMAN BEING WHO WAS AN ILLITERATE

Leviticus 17:11 and 14.

Do those verses apply to animals only ? Or do they apply to humans as well?

To help you answer, see also Ezekiel 18: 4

You may need to school yourself on the history of early Christianity respect to blood versus the behavior of non christians then

https://www.jstor.org/stable/301058?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

https://earlychristianbeliefs.org/gods-word-on-the-sanctity-of-blood/


https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=KNKdDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA78&lpg=PA78&dq=early+christians+and+human+blood&source=bl&ots=5IlbAdbk7P&sig=8pkmc4YARtbGlffMG2Cs60BzDn4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwipuvqU567dAhWONOwKHcQCDOYQ6AEwCXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=early%20christians%20and%20human%20blood&f=false

It is evidence of ill character and lack of civilization to attack a person instead of an issue....I encourage you to enroll in the school of good manners....and improve your etiquette when presenting your points

alBHAGDADI:


@Bold

According to you, when one fornicates, a sexual process through which there can be exchange of blood, such a person has not abstained from blood.

So I ask: What about the sexual process that occurs in a marriage approved by God? Is the blood exchanged that takes place approved by God?

If it is approved by God because they are married, then should there be any problem when a husband decides to donate blood to his sick wife, which is similar to what occurs when they have sex?

Can you now see how your analogy is flawed?

alBHAGDADI, For instance, U have an STD /venereal infection as a result of fornication, would that infection be in your blood stream? Yes or no .

OneJ:


Clever sophistry.

Did Jesus apostles & disciples ever consumed his blood?

I know small small you'll begin to deny the scripture just to continue to wallow in your delusions.

"Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. John 6:53-57

Jesus statement here is far realistic than that of David but you people uphold David own above Jesus Christ. Did I surprise? Absolutely Not! because I know you people don't have real Jesus.

Jesus went further to proof this by raising a cup and says "...this cup is the new testament IN MY BLOOD,..."

Not only did the apostles drink it but continue the practice as instructed by Jesus.

I said it you people must find a way to exclude Jesus from this.

in the context of Acts 15:20,29, U already know the meaning of "abstain".

when U eat strangled meat, have U abstained from blood? When U do blood oath, have U abstained from blood? When U fornicate,have U abstained from blood?

[b[In all these instances stated above, blood from another source enters your blood stream.[/b]

That is what your Bible condemns.


Blood transfusions is "the transfer of blood or blood products from one person (donor) into another person's blood stream (recipient)"
Source: medicine.net.

when U do blood transfusions , have U abstained from blood?
Shalom

You have shot yourself in the leg @bolden & @color

I asked your colleague the other time whether when he disvirgin his wife he Abstain from blood or not.

Now, you've confirmed it that through FORNICATION blood is transferred.

and I remembered Albahgbadi said it that through sexual intercorse blood is transferred but you people denied it.

You can see how you later agreed with it.

I'll now put the question back, if you have intercorse with your wife, have you abstained from blood?

OneJ:


alBHAGDADI, For instance, U have an STD /venereal infection as a result of fornication, would that infection be in your blood stream? Yes or no .

Then will you contact this true se.x also?

AutoElectNG:


Leviticus 17:11 and 14.

Do those verses apply to animals only ? Or do they apply to humans as well?

To help you answer, see also Ezekiel 18: 4

You may need to school yourself on the history of early Christianity respect to blood versus the behavior of non christians then

https://www.jstor.org/stable/301058?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

https://earlychristianbeliefs.org/gods-word-on-the-sanctity-of-blood/


https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=KNKdDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA78&lpg=PA78&dq=early+christians+and+human+blood&source=bl&ots=5IlbAdbk7P&sig=8pkmc4YARtbGlffMG2Cs60BzDn4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwipuvqU567dAhWONOwKHcQCDOYQ6AEwCXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=early%20christians%20and%20human%20blood&f=false

It is evidence of ill character and lack of civilization to attack a person instead of an issue....I encourage you to enroll in the school of good manners....and improve your etiquette when presenting your points

Leviticus 17:10-14
10 “‘I will set my face against any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who eats blood, and I will cut them off from the people. 11 For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.[c] 12 Therefore I say to the Israelites[b], “None of you may eat blood, nor may any foreigner residing among you eat blood.”[/b]

13 “‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among you who hunts any animal or bird that may be eaten must drain out the blood and cover it with earth, 14 because the life of every creature is its blood. That is why I have said to the Israelites, “You must not eat the blood of any creature, because the life of every creature is its blood; anyone who eats it must be cut off.”


Is it the blood of humans Israelites used to make atonement for themselves on the altar?


Did the Israelites hunt human beings?


You take a phrase from a verse and tell me to conclude based on the phrase?

Do you think I would take the phrase in isolation then come to the conclusion it was talking about humans? When in actual fact it was talking about animals and birds to be used as food and sacrifice?

The passage and the verse including the phrase wasn't talking about human beings.

God valued the life of humans that's why he said no one should kill a human being.
The isrealites did not kill humans, eat them and use them as sacrifice.


Life of humans is very important to God. God never said blood of humans was more important to him than their lives.

You would have told me to read the whole chapter instead of singling out only verse 11 and 14. Thank God there are verses 10, 12 and 13.

OneJ:



alBHAGDADI your blood no get waste products wey your body's excretory system dey remove?

As food get waste products naso blood too get waste products. No dull yourself.

Stop talking like an illiterate.

Blood has no waste product.

If you disagree, then list the waste products.

OneJ:


alBHAG.DADI, For instance, U have an STD /venereal infection as a result of fornication, would that infection be in your blood stream? Yes or no .

Not all STDs are in the bloodstream. Yes.

AutoElectNG:


Leviticus 17:11 and 14.

Do those verses apply to animals only ? Or do they apply to humans as well?

To help you answer, see also Ezekiel 18: 4

You may need to school yourself on the history of early Christianity respect to blood versus the behavior of non christians then

https://www.jstor.org/stable/301058?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

https://earlychristianbeliefs.org/gods-word-on-the-sanctity-of-blood/


https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=KNKdDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA78&lpg=PA78&dq=early+christians+and+human+blood&source=bl&ots=5IlbAdbk7P&sig=8pkmc4YARtbGlffMG2Cs60BzDn4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwipuvqU567dAhWONOwKHcQCDOYQ6AEwCXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=early%20christians%20and%20human%20blood&f=false

It is evidence of ill character and lack of civilization to attack a person instead of an issue....I encourage you to enroll in the school of good manners....and improve your etiquette when presenting your points

Is respect for human blood more important than respect to human life?

You shouldn't lie about the Bible.

Leveticus 17:11 and 14 according to the Bible refers to only animals used as food and for sacrifice.

Ezekiel 18:1-4
18 The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel:

“‘The parents eat sour grapes,
and the children’s teeth are set on edge’?

3 “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. 4 For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me. The one who sins is the one who will die.


I don't see how Ezekiel justifies your non biblical doctrines.

OneJ:


alBHAGDADI, For instance, U have an STD /venereal infection as a result of fornication, would that infection be in your blood stream? Yes or no .

So does that mean you eat STD's?

Emusan:


I know small small you'll begin to deny the scripture just to continue to wallow in your delusions.

"Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. John 6:53-57

Jesus statement here is far realistic than that of David but you people uphold David own above Jesus Christ. Did I surprise? Absolutely Not! because I know you people don't have real Jesus.

Jesus went further to proof this by raising a cup and says "...this cup is the new testament IN MY BLOOD,..."

Not only did the apostles drink it but continue the practice as instructed by Jesus.

I said it you people must find a way to exclude Jesus from this.



You have shot yourself in the leg @bolden & @color

I asked your colleague the other time whether when he disvirgin his wife he Abstain from blood or not.

Now, you've confirmed it that through FORNICATION blood is transferred.

and I remembered Albahgbadi said it that through sexual intercorse blood is transferred but you people denied it.

You can see how you later agreed with it.

I'll now put the question back, if you have intercorse with your wife, have you abstained from blood?

No one ever drank Jesus blood, abi your brain dey confuse U ? Na where U see Jesus blood dey drink?
Give us scriptural proof that your God forbids married sex,else U are just obstinate & living in denial.

" O man, who, then are you to be answering back to God? Shall the thing molded say to Him that molded it, "why did you make me this way?" Does not the Potter have authority over the clay to make from the same lump (sex) one vessel for an honourable use (marital sex), another for a dishonourable use?"
(that's fornication). Rom 9:20,21.
"Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker" Isaiah 45:9 (why Your Law says "abstain from blood & from fornication" & Your Law no say abstain from blood & from having marital sex ? )

How can U guys , mere mortals (,Emusan,alBHAGDADI, Seun & una crew, ) legislate for God ?
Una no fit.
Go & consult the NL thread " What is spiritual implications of blood transfusions"...)

AutoElectNG:


Leviticus 17:11 and 14.

Do those verses apply to animals only ? Or do they apply to humans as well?

To help you answer, see also Ezekiel 18: 4

You may need to school yourself on the history of early Christianity respect to blood versus the behavior of non christians then

https://www.jstor.org/stable/301058?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

https://earlychristianbeliefs.org/gods-word-on-the-sanctity-of-blood/


https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=KNKdDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA78&lpg=PA78&dq=early+christians+and+human+blood&source=bl&ots=5IlbAdbk7P&sig=8pkmc4YARtbGlffMG2Cs60BzDn4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwipuvqU567dAhWONOwKHcQCDOYQ6AEwCXoECAMQAQ#v=onepage&q=early%20christians%20and%20human%20blood&f=false

It is evidence of ill character and lack of civilization to attack a person instead of an issue....I encourage you to enroll in the school of good manners....and improve your etiquette when presenting your points

How many times will I treat this issue? Why are you ashamed of telling us to read the whole leveticus chapter 17?

Now I have I'll character just because I returned your sucker punch showing you that the last verse you mentioned of leveticus 3 had preceding verses talking only about animals for sacrifice.

I no you didn't expect it. In my church we don't conclude or make doctrines from assumptions based on a phrase from an isolated verse in a chapter.

We always take into consideration all the verses in the whole chapter.

OneJ:



Give us scriptural proof that your God forbids married sex,else U are just obstinate & living in denial.

" O man, who, then are you to be answering back to God? Shall the thing molded say to Him that molded it, "why did you make me this way?" Does not the Potter have authority over the clay to make from the same lump (sex) one vessel for an honourable use (marital sex), another for a dishonourable use?"
(that's fornication). Rom 9:20,21.
"Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker" Isaiah 45:9 (why Your Law says "abstain from blood & from fornication" & Your Law no say abstain from blood & from having marital sex ? )

How can U guys , mere mortals (,Emusan,alBHAGDADI, Seun & una crew, ) legislate for God ?
Una no fit.
Go & consult the NL thread " What is spiritual implications of blood transfusions"...)

See vexation. Your gb that are mere mortals making laws for you people based on assumptions from phrases in an an isolated verse from a chapter Nko?

Blood transfusion now has spiritual implications.
You said abstain from blood means anything now you no fit carry the meaning of the anything

alBHAGDADI:
Not all STDs are in the bloodstream. Yes.

Ee dey blood stream wey dey your laptop. Lol. I actually mean blood borne STDs.
Na from which school U get your PhD?

Hairyrapunzel:


How many times will I treat this issue? Why are you ashamed of telling us to read the whole leveticus chapter 17?

Now I have I'll character just because I returned your sucker punch showing you that the last verse you mentioned of leveticus 3 had preceding verses talking only about animals for sacrifice.

I no you didn't expect it. In my church we don't conclude or make doctrines from assumptions based on a phrase from an isolated verse in a chapter.

We always take into consideration all the verses in the whole chapter.

I have through nearly all your posts in the Religion Sector of Nairaland

You are not a true intellectual who genuinely wants to know and to argue for what he believes in

You are not up and about the superiority of your argument

You are driven by hate

Someone has pointed this out to you before, but you cannot and will not see it

When I have time I will take on your arguments and highlight the fallacies therein, I have time for just one today

As someone suggested maybe that religion did something to hurt you and you cannot even hide that you are deeply biased

If you did go to school, which I strongly assume you did, you would appreciate the distinction between attacking a person and addressing an issue

I have taken the liberty to either remind you or school you, whichever applies

AutoElectNG:


I have through nearly all your posts in the Religion Sector of Nairaland

You are not a true intellectual who genuinely wants to know and to argue for what he believes in

You are driven by hate

As someone suggested maybe that religion did something to hurt you and you cannot even hide that you are deeply biased

If you did go to school, which I strongly assume you did, you would appreciate the distinction between attacking a person and addressing an issue

I have taken the liberty to either remind you or school you, whichever applies

Once you don't see him as an intellectual individual,then it means you can abandon the thread for him. God/Jesus are not looking for intellectuals to discuss spiritual or discern spiritual matters,he choosed babes, Unlettered individuals some may say.

Once you say he is not intellectual, are you too not using Ad hominem?

If he had attacked, you keep addressing the issue don't attack back.

achorladey:


Once you don't see him as an intellectual individual,then it means you can abandon the thread for him. God/Jesus are not looking for intellectuals to discuss spiritual or discern spiritual matters,he choosed babes, Unlettered individuals some may say.

Once you say he is not intellectual are you too not using Ad hominem. If he had attacked, you keep addressing the issue don't attack back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5CMW2XBH6I

https://www.youtube.com/F5CMW2XBH6I


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnbK76m691I

https://www.youtube.com/wnbK76m691I

achorladey:


Once you don't see him as an intellectual individual,then it means you can abandon the thread for him. God/Jesus are not looking for intellectuals to discuss spiritual or discern spiritual matters,he choosed babes, Unlettered individuals some may say.

Once you say he is not intellectual, are you too not using Ad hominem?

If he had attacked, you keep addressing the issue don't attack back.

I will never stoop so low as to attack a person when I want to make a point...I will face the facts and the facts alone....I will also respect freedom of choice, diversity and the right to be different....I will never denigrate a person or people for not towing my line or a cause I am sympathetic to....That's my promise

The most stupid and foolish evidence of brain washing in the world. No biblical or Islamic or religious backing anywhere in the world for this doctrine. Their founder simply told them not to do it and they follow. The most sad and pathetic are the parents who lose their child to this doctrine. A doctrine set by an old white man who is long dead and most probably ignorant on blood transfusion. People really need to know where to draw the line on church doctrines. When it threatens the life and existence of a loved one then it is simply not a realistic doctrine.

AutoElectNG:


I have through nearly all your posts in the Religion Sector of Nairaland

You are not a true intellectual who genuinely wants to know and to argue for what he believes in

You are not up and about the superiority of your argument

You are driven by hate

Someone has pointed this out to you before, but you cannot and will not see it

When I have time I will take on your arguments and highlight the fallacies therein, I have time for just one today

As someone suggested maybe that religion did something to hurt you and you cannot even hide that you are deeply biased

If you did go to school, which I strongly assume you did, you would appreciate the distinction between attacking a person and addressing an issue

I have taken the liberty to either remind you or school you, whichever applies

Now it's ad hominem. Lol

It's obvious you don't know jack about ad hominem.

You brought out an isolated verse in a chapter. Leveticus 3:17. You called it sucker punch and o called you out that the verse talked about animals only never once did it refer to humans.

Meaning You just assumed while the whole chapter talked including the verse you quoted talked about animals, lamb and goat.

It's like you hated my reply for bringing out this fact.
You that has being ARGuING FROM SILENCE NKO?
There is no fallacy in my thinking.
It's your thinking that contains all the fallacies.

You say you are a genius whereas all conclusions you reached are based on assumptions/speculation.


Next, you brought out leveticus 17: 11 and 14 which you wanted me to take in isolation again and I called you out.

One verse talked about the use of the blood as atonement on the altar and the other one talked about the what to do with animals or bird you hunt for food. I called you out on these and told you the verses never talked about humans and it was a figment of your own imagination.

I don't know what you were trying to drive at you quoted another verse in isolation Ezekiel 18:4 and I said it had no bearing with what was being discussed.

Maybe you feel I have to agree with your assumed conclusion which are never seen in the Bible. I don't know but I am not daft. The Bible is front of me and I have the right to read a whole chapter.

Your organization has never hurt me. I just can't bear to see people lying on the bible.
I have a contrary opinion and you are saying is ad hominem.

Or was it because I said Nathan knorr was an illiterate? He was of course. He made a law that has killed and is still killing jws in 1945 a time when medical practice was just beginning in USA. The war just ended and the USA just began to get major secrets from Germany.

He had no access to accurate research data as this was not done then (research in medicine was also beginning), no internet, no DVD etc. And you say this is ad hominem?

You really need to find what ad hominem really is. Nathan knorr will always be part of this argument as he was the originator of this belief system. You can't wriggle your way out of this by tagging my statement ad hominem.

You want to force me to believe your and agree with a misconception? No I can't.