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Poll: Should We Be Allowed 5 slots?

Yes: 65% (19 votes)
No: 34% (10 votes)
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Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by CLT123(m): 5:05pm On Jul 01, 2010
Despite that Africa has always had a larger representation than Asia we have never played the semi finals once

I love the brand of football Korea plays Did you watch them against Greece? Now compare our Super Eagles to them.

2 out of 4 Asian teams made it from the groups.

1 out of 6 African teams made it from the groups. In a tournament held on African soil and with homefield and fan advantage

Do the Maths

I love the brand of football Korea plays Did you watch them against Greece?

Don't you know that Greece sucks. Nigeria would have beat Greece if Kaita wasn't dumb. Nigeria was in control of the game until that point. Argentina beat South Korea 4-1 while Nigeria only lost by 1. But you ignore that fact.

Only 6 Asian teams has ever made it to the second round since 1966
6 African teams have made it to the second round since 1990.

Asia has had a longer history in the world cup than Africa.

If Ghana makes it to the Semifinals will you shut up?
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by binaflexia: 5:23pm On Jul 01, 2010
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Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by binaflexia: 5:25pm On Jul 01, 2010
One slot for Africa is OK by me.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by octar6: 5:28pm On Jul 01, 2010
Africa should be limited only to play nations cup. chikinah.
w/c is not for them at all. cool

Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by dayokanu(m): 5:30pm On Jul 01, 2010
Asia has had a longer history in the world cup than Africa.

Egypt has been playing the world cup as far back as 1934 Hope you remember

Don't you know that Greece sucks. Nigeria would have beat Greece if Kaita wasn't dumb. Nigeria was in control of the game until that point. Argentina beat South Korea 4-1 while Nigeria only lost by 1. Bu tyou ignore that fact.

Nigeria woulda beaten Greece? You came to that conclusion in the first 30 minutes? If you use Kaita as an excuse I can also tell you that the scoreline vs Argentina was low because of Enyeamas heroics

Only 6 Asian teams has ever made it to the second round since 1966
6 African teams have made it to the second round since 1990.


WHy put a time frame to it, How many African teams have ever played the knockout vs How many Asian teams have ever played the knockout. from world cup inception

Africa cant be more than 7,

While I know North Korea in 1966, Saudi in 1994, Japan and Korea in 2002, Japan and Korea again in 2010, Australia in 2006 which is also 7

Despite Africa having the numerical advantage in number of participants.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by CLT123(m): 5:33pm On Jul 01, 2010
Australia was not part of Asia in 2006
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by dayokanu(m): 5:36pm On Jul 01, 2010
^^ Copied from wikipedia

Football broadcaster and former Socceroos captain Johnny Warren, expressed his desire for Australia to join Asia. Despite previous attempts to do so, each notoriously ending in failure, a story was leaked from Tokyo in March 2005 suggesting that FIFA had entered into secret discussions with the AFC on this very issue. On 23 March, the AFC Executive Committee made a unanimous decision to invite Australia to join the AFC.

AFC President, Mohammed Bin Hammam, outlined reasons for this decision.

As well as being a developed football nation, Australia brings a developed economy and this is actually what we want in football. Besides Japan, Korea, China and Saudi Arabia if Australia joins the benefits are huge, this is what we're after.
On 17 April, the OFC executive committee unanimously endorsed Australia's proposed move. FIFA approved the move on 30 June, and it took effect on 1 January 2006. .
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by CLT123(m): 5:37pm On Jul 01, 2010
You make it seem like Africa have been receiving 5 spots since the begining of time. They just started since 1998. Asia gets 4 spots but they cant do anything in the world cup besides Korea in 2002.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by CLT123(m): 5:39pm On Jul 01, 2010
Football broadcaster and former Socceroos captain Johnny Warren, expressed his desire for Australia to join Asia. Despite previous attempts to do so, each notoriously ending in failure, a story was leaked from Tokyo in March 2005 suggesting that FIFA had entered into secret discussions with the AFC on this very issue. On 23 March, the AFC Executive Committee made a unanimous decision to invite Australia to join the AFC.

AFC President, Mohammed Bin Hammam, outlined reasons for this decision.

As well as being a developed football nation, Australia brings a developed economy and this is actually what we want in football. Besides Japan, Korea, China and Saudi Arabia if Australia joins the benefits are huge, this is what we're after.
On 17 April, the OFC executive committee unanimously endorsed Australia's proposed move. FIFA approved the move on 30 June, and it took effect on 1 January 2006.


Australia represented Oceania in 2006 not Asia

In 2006 no Asian teams made it to the Round of 16. In 1998 no teams made it. In 1990 no teams made it.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by ajadudu: 5:55pm On Jul 01, 2010
Why is this even being asked? Why should AFRICA have slots taken away?

In the last eight, we have one African team, 3 Europeans and 4 south american teams. If we want to be stupid enough to judge just based on performance in WC2010 quarter final

Europe is at 23% (3/13)
Africa is at 25% (1/5)

If any continent needs reduction that will be Europe based on performance in this world cup. Why give slots to Asia? What have they played in this WC that is better than the Africans? The Trashing both South Korea and North Korea got is what will earn them a slot? At least no African team gut trashed in this WC. Sometimes we make our problems bigger to the world than it is.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by dayokanu(m): 5:58pm On Jul 01, 2010
You make it seem like Africa have been receiving 5 spots since the begining of time. They just started since 1998. Asia gets 4 spots but they cant do anything in the world cup besides Korea in 2002.

-----  Number of slots
2010 Africa 6 Asia 4
2006 Africa 5 Asia 5
2002 Africa 5 Asia 4
1998 Africa 5 Asia 4
1994 Africa 3 Asia 2
1990 Africa 2 Asia 2
1986 Africa 2 Asia 2

Total Africa 28 Asia 23
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by mamagee3(f): 7:29pm On Jul 01, 2010
Duh!!!

What's your point?

Did FIFA nominate countries to feature in the world cup? undecided

The countries appeared in the world cup cause they qualified to be there although Nigeria shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by tempest01(m): 7:35pm On Jul 01, 2010
mama-gee:

Duh!!!

What's your point?

Did FIFA nominate countries to feature in the world cup? undecided

The countries appeared in the world cup cause they qualified to be there although Nigeria shouldn't have been there in the first place.

the number of slots given to each continent determines how many teams qualifies in that continent
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by mamagee3(f): 7:39pm On Jul 01, 2010
tempest01:

the number of  slots given to each continent determines how many teams qualifies in that continent
That sounds really better! grin

I bet after the worldwide embarassment from Nigeria in this world cup, FIFA would overlook them in the 2014 world cup in Brazil.

Thereby preventing those losers from embarassing themselves again in a worldwide view. grin

Bunch of Dafts!!! angry angry
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by otum4: 8:01pm On Jul 01, 2010
challey! U might as well ask the world to kommot Africa as a continent from the Atlas, cuz we no dey force for anytin in Gods green earth, give them a break, am Ghanaian but I wuz impressed wit Nigeria's first match against Argentina and most of ma friends felt same, tht question dey bore me pass anytin, God bless Africa, : wink
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by CarlosVent(m): 9:24pm On Jul 01, 2010
D AUTHOR OF DIS THREADS BRAIN NEEDS TO BE EXAMINED.
HABA WE NEED 8 SLOTS
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by chelseabmw(m): 9:34pm On Jul 01, 2010
Africa will always be africa even though it is increased to 8 teams
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by akintun: 9:55pm On Jul 01, 2010
This topic does not make sense at all. From wat have seen from dis world cup, Europe slot should be reduced and given to Africa and Asia. The quater final is made up of one Africa, 4 S.A , and 3 european teams. The europeans had the highest entries and they messed up big time. North American and Asian teams alway find it difficult to play African teams.
African teams did not perform well, but i believe that many of the African teams would have qualified 4 dis world cup if they played in european qualifiers
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by dayokanu(m): 9:59pm On Jul 01, 2010
Quarter finals

Africa 1 out of 6 = 16.6% success
Europe 3 out of 13 =  23% success
South America 4 out of 5 = 80% success
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by akintun: 10:04pm On Jul 01, 2010
Quarter finals

Africa 1 out of 6 = 16.6% success
Europe 3 out of 13 = 23% success
South America = 4 out of 5 80% success


You are only looking at one statistic figure. wat about the prob of qualifying from the groups. Europe had 2 teams in majority of d groups, and therefore had a higher prob of qualifying and facing each other in the next round, which in turn guarantees dem a place in d quater finals.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by dayokanu(m): 10:14pm On Jul 01, 2010
I am not sure you know how percentages work. The number of entrants does not factor in when we are talking about percentages
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by akintun: 10:28pm On Jul 01, 2010
you dont seem to understand urself. i mean with their high entries, there is a higher probability of them qualifying from their group and playing each other wen compared to other regions, which guarantees dem a place in d quater finals. Two of d 3 qualifiers played other european teams to qualify 4 d quater finals.
Using only percentage to judge at the quater final stage is simply not a fair assessment of performance becos 9 out of 10 times, it would favour european teams.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by CLT123(m): 10:39pm On Jul 01, 2010
Quarter finals

Africa 1 out of 6 = 16.6% success
Europe 3 out of 13 =  23% success
South America 4 out of 5 = 80% success

Asia 0 out of 4 = 0% success

My point proven
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by dayokanu(m): 10:45pm On Jul 01, 2010
you dont seem to understand urself. i mean with their high entries, there is a higher probability of them qualifying from their group and playing each other wen compared to other regions, which guarantees dem a place in d quater finals. Two of d 3 qualifiers played other european teams to qualify 4 d quater finals.
Using only percentage to judge at the quater final stage is simply not a fair assessment of performance becos 9 out of 10 times, it would favour european teams.

Why didnt the high number of entrants favour the Europeans over the South Americans?
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by Kgdavid(m): 11:29pm On Jul 01, 2010
i also think the european slots should be cut down by one or two and handed to south america again, they are the most consistent performers in the tourney
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by dayokanu(m): 11:41pm On Jul 01, 2010
^^ Great point , But that is if Europeans keep performing woefully like Africans.

Last world cup 4 European counties made the semis.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by yoji: 11:58pm On Jul 01, 2010
Africa should have 2 leagues in which the top two on each league qualifies. 5 teams is frankly too much. it wud have been much worse if serbia were more composed now Ghana is in on a weak side of the draw feelin like top doggs. by the way is africa a newly created continent y all d petting?
DAYOKANU's points are hard to swallow but are true.

Note that Asia dosent claim to be loaded with talent the way africa does and still manage to pull their weight
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by mamagee3(f): 12:02am On Jul 02, 2010
I think we really need 2 African teams in the world cup. . .

It's for our own good cause the more people Africans perform in the world cup, the embarassment would be bigger.

I hope FIFA consider it.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by mensdept: 12:09am On Jul 02, 2010
And what about at the UN, why not only developed nations as members? Even in the Islamic Conference, only nations who ban their people/Senators from marrying 13 year olds (like Egypt) should be members abi?


2 spots or 12 spots na same thing, as long as corruption and unpatriotic officials and players are allowed to represent us, the results will be the same.

In every world cup there are teams that dont do well, and sometimes they can all come from the same region. Yet, in some world cups, you actually get great performances from countries that are from the same region. So reducing the number doesnt solve our problems people.
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by CLT123(m): 1:55am On Jul 02, 2010
CAF <<<< UEFA

CAF <<< CONMEBOL

CAF > AFC

CAF >> CONCACAF

CAF >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OFC

This is how it is whether you like it or not. The people who are talking about giving Africa only 2 spots need to shut up.

CONCACAF AFC and OFC has not done anything special in the world cup
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by dayokanu(m): 2:06am On Jul 02, 2010
AFC = World cup semi finals

CAF = World cup quarter finals (As at today)
Re: World Cup 2010 - Should Africa Be Allowed 5 Teams In 2014? by dayokanu(m): 2:08am On Jul 02, 2010
CONCACAF does that include Mexico and USA

USA reached the quarters in 2002, While Mexico always make it to knockout stage

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