ibkaye:

Lol can't ignore something that isn't there (i'll add in terms of my personal experiences, of course)

bk/babe90:

Seeing where your going with this, I'll elect to ignore u for as long as possible. I just hope the rest NLers are watching and noticing that u, along with one other whom I'll chose not to mention, are the ones attacking me. Becus, when I decide to attack not only u, but your whole community (including your revered bearded hero) I hope noone will be quick to label me a hater of your tribes men. Keep forcing your whole arm down my throat. . . . .

Kobojunkie:

If you ignored it or are in denial of it, how would you know it is even there in the first place? The problem is tribalism is almost now an accepted part of our being as Nigerians. Most people live and breathe it on a regular basis and many of those who are supposed to be against it have kept quiet long enough for it to no longer pose a problem to them. Only problem is, it is part and parcel of what keeps us were we continue to remain and the longer we live in denial of this, the longer we remain where we have been.

Mr Fire:

Yeah! Look for every excuse to ply your trade. You cannot change and you know it; you hate-filled maggot.

bk/babe90:

Lol. Keep pushing, soon u'll deliver. . . . change wut u son of a donkey, did I tell u I was trying to change anything? Do I look like the poster? Can u read? Are u anything other than an slowpoke? your response is need soonest, dearest idiotic sir!

Ileke-IdI:


When did he suggest that he sees the errors of his ways?

A tiger cannot change its pattern.

Ikengawo:

^[b]yeah, but i've learned the errors of my past ways c[/b]ause they're nerdy, silly and ignorant.
and that's all that's being discussed on this site so of course i'll discuss it as well wtf?
if someone is talking about igbos are this and that of course i will was whatever his tribe is is this and that, that's life.

ibkaye:

I am aware that tribalism amongst Nigerians is not limited to Nigeria alone[size=13pt] however me not being brought up in Nigeria definitely has something to do with my 'lack of experience' with it[/size], like I said, I didn't ignore it because it just wasn't there in my world, it's new to me

Kobojunkie:

case closed!

Kobojunkie:

There are many who were brought up outside of Nigeria that are even worse than some of those who were. I read a couple of weeks ago the story of a Nairalander who was brought up never knowing his village yet this boy talks as if it is all there is to fight and live for.

bk/babe90:


Do u ever read before responding? Or, rather, CAN U READ?!

Kobojunkie:

case closed, right? Wrong!

There are many who were brought up outside of Nigeria that are even worse than some of those who were. I read a couple of weeks ago the story of a Nairalander who was brought up never knowing his village yet this boy talks as if it is all there is to fight and live for.

case closed!

Mr Fire:

WTF was that? Grammar repete (naija lingo). You son of a dog, I am on your case until you change from your hate-filled ways, if you ever will.

paddy_lo:

u cant be closing cases cause i have already stated that i was raised in Nigeria and i am not familiar with tribalism. . .

u cant pick and choose whatever advances your wrong assertions. . .

If u were a tribalists when growing up,fine and dandy for u
but dont ascribe it to majority of Nigerians

or have u seen me engage in your petty tribal insults on here?

Ikengawo:

When im around real nigerians, the issue almost NEVER comes up

Ileke-IdI:

There's a lot of them on NL.
If closely observed, when most of them were newcommers, they hardly knew about Nigeria. . . . a few days on NL turns them into their village's champion.
The power of NL.

Dont look to me for a fight. Face Mekusxyz, he's giving you the FIRE you need. Face front

Mr. Fire, plz continue o, he needs more FIRE

paddy_lo:

so Mekusxyz = Mr Fire. . LMAO. . .
na real tribal fire dem dey. . .

ibkaye:

lol yes yes yes

Ileke-IdI:

Dont look to me for a fight. Face Mekusxyz, he's giving you the FIRE you need. Face front

Mr. Fire, plz continue o, he needs more FIRE

Ileke-IdI:

There's a lot of them on NL.
If closely observed, when most of them were newcommers, they hardly knew about Nigeria. . . . a few days on NL turns them into their village's champion.
The power of NL.

Ileke-IdI:

Not talking about you suga. You're still madam "posh"

[size=15pt]Nigeria wins World Cup hate trophy[/size]

June 26 2010

A flood of death threats were issued against Nigerian player Sani Kaita following his costly red card against Greece in their World Cup match.

Why had Kaita behaved so irresponsibly, lashed out at a Greek player and got himself sent off?

Readers of the popular kickoffnigeria.com website had an answer. It was because of his tribe, they argued. Kaita is a member of the pastoralist Fulani ethnic community mostly found in the north of Nigeria.

The readers in their online postings argued that football is too serious a matter to be left to Fulanis. One guy who identified himself as Olosi wrote: “I think it’s high time we broke this useless country called Nigeria up into pieces. Let these good-for-nothing mallams (cattle rearers) go and live with their poverty-stricken brethren in Niger and Chad! Kaita, you are as good as dead!”

Another one thundered: “Keep apology to yourself. You are a bad omen and never a professional. I advise you to go back to your mallam business of cow rearing. IDIOT”.

There was more to come from one ‘Chuks’: “This [size=15pt]aboki[/size] should be expelled from the Eagles hotel and hand him stick to go and rear cows. I hope no idiot in that NFF (Nigerian Football Federation) will ever mention his name in Eagles again in life. Such irresponsible and unprofessional act should not be condoned any more … God save us with [size=15pt]all these abokis in our midst[/size].”

Why is it that Africans tend to recoil into the tribe every time there is a contentious issue in society? There is little doubt that excessive concentration on ethnicity is one of the most important factors holding back development in Africa. It certainly was one of the main reasons why we took up pangas after the 2007 elections.

A number of theories have been advanced to explain why some individuals tend to embrace ethnicity more than others. It may be a reaction to personal inadequacies with the collective whole being seen as a refuge from individual failings. Those are the ones that will argue that they are likely to enjoy economic success, say, or are generally honest because they are Kikuyu or Luo.

State failure is another of the most powerful reasons. This is the argument advanced in a new book by Gary Younge, a journalist for the UK’s Guardian newspaper.

Younge argues in Who are We and Should It Matter in the 21st Century that many people around the world are retreating into personal identities such as tribe or religion to seek security against a state which they view as indifferent to their lives. That is certainly true of countries such as Kenya and Nigeria. Very often, your chances of landing a job will be improved if you have a strategically placed tribesman in an organisation. The tribe therefore replaces the state as a source of patronage and security.

I disagree with Koigi Wamwere that the new constitution will worsen matters. It might be one of the biggest tools in the fight against what Mr Wamwere calls negative ethnicity. By devolving funds to counties, it will make the centre less powerful and, as a consequence, the presidency will progressively become less attractive. It will not be a matter of life and death to get your tribesman into State House because there is a constitutional guarantee that 15 per cent of the total tax collection will find its way to the grassroots.

In fact, the most intense competitions in the future will be within ethnic groups as they compete for powerful positions such as county governor. Yet another reason not to give the proposed constitution a red card.
http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Nigeria%20wins%20World%20Cup%20hate%20trophy/-/440808/947040/-/a2gqet/-/

Ileke-IdI:

I too was raised half-in-half in both world, still sensed no trace of tribalism.

Kobojunkie:

I don't believe NL is responsible . . . I believe the continued exposure to other Nigerians awakens that dormant trait in them.

Mr Fire:

Ileke-Idi,

Hell no! I am no Mekus or whatever. Have not even heard that name before. I am the fire that guts eediots like the maggot bk/babe 90

Kobojunkie:

Interesting . . .  care to explain if you, during those years, heard rants similar to those highlighted in the article above?

Ileke-IdI:

Now, imagine me reading somewhere on NL where someone was bad-talking my state and people.
I begin to feel resentment towards that person. Now also imagine another one of my ppl replying that person in return. This doesnt just happen once o, but daily on NL. What do you think I'll start thinking? What do you think I'll start saying? I, too, will become a tribalist. Fortunately, I'm not that weak-minded.

Ileke-IdI:

Hmm no. My mom usually played Igbo music, spoke a lil Igbo and hausa to me and talked abt stories of her and her Igbo friends in Nigeria. This was after I began asking her questions.

Kobojunkie:

Your mom? Did you mingle with people outside of your home though? lol

What about the people in the neighborhood, friends, relatives(apart from mom), etc?

Kobojunkie:

Well, depends!! My first couple of months on Nairaland, I was attacked by people who could not stand that I did not think as they did. Did not cause me to recent them but instead I understood all too well that there were those out there who needed and fed on being able to control everything, and would attack anything beyond them.
You should have seen the many threads insulting me based on my sexuality or that which is not known of it. Check Nairaland archives to find the many pages of discussions on my person, my sexuality and even my nationality. LOL
The point is tribalism is drug of the weak minded . .  fine but it has little to do with Nairaland. Nairaland only helps reveal what already exists.
 

Ileke-IdI:

Yea, at Naija parties. But we all thought we were NIGERIANS. Nobody talks about tribes, nobody knew abt tribes.

Failed state index 2010
. . .
1-3. Legacy of Vengeance-Seeking Group Grievance or Group Paranoia

[Worst to better]

Sudan
Chad
Sri Lanka
Somalia
Nigeria
Iraq
Pakistan
Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Israel

http://www.fundforpeace.org/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99&Itemid=140

Ileke-IdI:


Hmm no? Are you his alter ego? You two sound/behave alike sha. But keep giving the fire, I like

Mr Fire:

Ileke-Idi,

Hell no! I am no Mekus or whatever. Have not even heard that name before. I am the fire that guts eediots like the maggot bk/babe 90

Ileke-IdI:

Yea, at Naija parties. But we all thought we were NIGERIANS. Nobody talks about tribes, nobody knew abt tribes.
Most Nigerians around me only spoke English, the lil spoke Yoruba. Most Nigerians around me were Yoruba.

Ileke-IdI:

i knew this Igbo chick in elementary school, we just spoke English. Even tho she's in my Uni, now knowing we are from different tribes, we still talk like two PEOPLE. Tribe doesnt change anything.

Ileke-IdI:

It's a problem when one force feed their children into tribalism, that's what I call child abuse.