Ileke-IdI:

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Ringing up Mr. Fire. "Sir, plz come and pick up your garbage"

Kobojunkie:

That explains a whole lot !

cool . . . I am getting the impression that you lived a seriously sheltered life. I can't put my finger on it but what you are describing does not seem like the typical life in Nigeria.

I don't believe parents are to blame for this one either. Sure, there are parents who feed their children horrible stories, and some mean no harm when they do but I don't think parents are solely to blame.
I would blame experience more than I would blame parents in this. Anyone who experienced anyone of the many acts perpetrated against one people or another in the name of tribalism, would walk away scarred in some way.
C[b]onsider that most every Nigerian has no clue what slavery is or what it is like. But the minute so many step into America or Europe, they almost immediately adopt this "victim" mentality and start speaking of how they were or are being oppressed by this group or that group. Many go as far as to mention slavery by the white man in every other statement they make.  You see this most everywhere out here and sometimes I wonder if it is just low self esteem being masked in that way[/b]

@Poster, first of all, you need to stop using the word 'tribe' . . .it's so archaic.

Anyways, Nairaland is definitely a reflection of Nigeria as a country, believe me. We can make excuses all we want but the truth is many Nigerians are truly ethnocentric. Nairaland, being an anonymous site where you don't even have to see the face of the person spewing the crap, gives the ethnocentric ones(there are many of them), more freedom to do so.

I was with a lot of Nigerians this weekend, went to renew my Nigerian passport. Just watching people interact - the noise, the so-called officials trying to connive people into paying more money than necessary for the renewal, unstable internet - no standard computer but laptops being used to process important documents like that.

Ah, well I digress but Naija people are def. a perfect reflection of the country and its situation, whether online or in the real world. Same thing! I wonder why I blame the government - the people are just as bad.

bk/babe90:

U really luv pain, dont ya? First, Sefago, then Ezeuche, now its His Royal Highness. Well, I also have a penchant for being Sado-Masochist, so, I'ma gladly oblige your requests!!!

paddy_lo:

@Ilekeidi/Ibkaye

a lot of ppl that do this tribal nonsense on Nairaland are usually anonymous

u check their profile,no face,nothing. . .

Now u have to see why u cant take them serious. .

Imagine me that grew up in multicultural lagos/Abuja. . spewing garbage on-line

Not only that i have a kid sister,who has best friends from all over nigeria,yoruba,igbo,delta,calabar,hausa and so on. . .

Then imagine her big bro(me). . .yarning opaks online about tribe this tribe that

how embarrassing is that. . .lol

so again these dolts are just attention seekers nothing more. . . .

Ileke-IdI:

Yea maybe. But there used to be this Igbo lady living around us. She used to cry to my mom about her husband. My mom na amebo, always gotta solve ppl's problem   But there still was no hint of tribalism

Ileke-IdI:

Then you might as well get an impression that bk/babe is Igbo. Negative.
My mom just didnt bother telling me about Nigeria until I started asking, but we always speak Yoruba at home. Even if I ask her now, she'll tell me to ask Google

Ileke-IdI:

True but why tell a child a story that scared you? Arent you also scaring the child?

Ileke-IdI:

I strted hating on the North when my mom told me stories of her incident in Zambia or some state up North like that.  

Ileke-IdI:

ROTFLMAO! So true about Nigerians not knowing about slavery. If you listen to Nigerians here talking about racism slavry days, you'd think they were slaves. "Awon fifun yen, wo tun ro pe ojo slavery la si wa ni.Awon ole ti won ko fe sise moh"

Mr Fire:

bk/babe90,

Maggot of the first order. Where did Ileke Idi refer to Mekus (whoever he is) as mekushyyty?


You son of  regurgitate

Kobojunkie:

Well, consider the woman used to intimate your mom of her private life and all. What tribalist hint do you think would exist there?B

But I thought you said you grew up partly in Nigeria? Did you go to primary school or any school at all down there? If yes, did the school have a different curriculum or something? I ask because most Nigerian students learn of Nigeria from primary school.

I am still vibing here that you lived some sheltered life! You talk more of your mum in relation to this but not much about actual interactions you had with Nigerians in your area growing up and such

You tell a child scary stories to help him/her understand the fears that exist out there. Evil exists, and for some that evil happens to be from another tribe.

Well, I am not a tribalist myself . . . I really do not give a hoot what the next man's tribe/ethnicity is, but I do fear those northerners who could turn the next second to slash my throat cause I am of a different tribe or religion. If I am in the north and someone screams, I will run for my dear life!! ROFLMAO!!

paddy_lo:

@Chiogo. . .
dont mean to digress. . .i gotta renew my passport in 2weeks
where were u exactly,DC or NY

what did u have to bring. .  and how long did it take(can u do it in a day). . .thanks

It'd be better for you to go to NY or DC, whichever is closest to you. I actually didn't go to either state since the Embassy people from NY brought the Embassy to Boston, technically. This is the mentality I was talking about, we coulda easily gone to NY, which is 4 hours away but nooo, we had to do it the Nigerian way. It took two days for us though, should take a day if you go to the Embassy.

- Go on this site, https://portal.immigration.gov.ng/index.htm
-Read the whole section that says "Passport" and you can apply online, choose "Standard ePassport" as your passport type, fill the form, print it out and also
your reference # and App. code.
-Go to the section that says "Application", print out your receipt and acknowledgment. Take both with you, they'll send you back if you don't have 'em.

I think you also need to make a copy of the expired passport photo, you also need to take the expired passport with you

Ileke-IdI:

None at all. So how was I supposed to know about tribalism?

Ileke-IdI:

I lived in Lagos as a lil kid where English was only permitted. I was even slapped for speaking Ekiti.

Ileke-IdI:

When I went to Ado, we spoke Yoruba. I left Nigeria at an age when I still run unclothed in the rain with my cousins

Ileke-IdI:

KoboJ, I was not sheltered! There was no Nigerians in my elementary school except for that Igbo chick. No Nigerians in my middle school either. At the middle of High school, abt one Nigerian chick who might as well be akata So where is the interaction. That's why I became obsessed with NL
I'd spare my child that. Yea, I will.
ROTLFMAO

paddy_lo:

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Thanks a lot that was real helpful. . .
I think i will go to the DC embassy. . .I like the city and will probably check out the night scene before hopping back to philly

Speaking English as it turns out does not MASK tribalistic/racist views . . . look around you on Nairaland for example. Some of the worst tribalists we have on here are college professors. ROFLMAO!!

Andre Uweh:

STOP FIGHTING GUYS. TIME FOR CONFESSION. AS THE POSTER HAS CONFESSED AND REPENTED OF HIS SINS, GOD HAS FORGIVEN HIM. ALL YE OUT THERE WHO ARE TRIBALIST, ACT LIKE THE POSTER.
PEACE.

No problem.
Cool, that's how it should be - make an adventure out of it. My parents thought otherwise, obviously. Nigerians!  

006:

Hahahaha, I laugh in Yoruba,
* shakes head*

Did you grow up in Ameirca?
I've lived in the Mid-West, West, and North and I witnessed tribalism first hand.

It's in our blood

Andre Uweh:

STOP FIGHTING GUYS. TIME FOR CONFESSION. AS THE POSTER HAS CONFESSED AND REPENTED OF HIS SINS, GOD HAS FORGIVEN HIM. ALL YE OUT THERE WHO ARE TRIBALIST, ACT LIKE THE POSTER.
PEACE.

@KoboJ
I'm a village chic. Was born in a village.

I love village girls. . .so innocent. . .

paddy_lo:

I love village girls. . .so innocent. . .

Ileke-IdI:

I'd admit that I really am not exposed. Most Nigerians I kknew growing up were born here and had no linkage to Nigeria, so. . .  lol But I am more exposed than Ibkaye and chiogo, those chicks are too posh

paddy_lo:

Dont be too hard on your Naija parents. . lol. . .they are simply the best when it comes to providing a stable home to their kids in America. . .

Kobojunkie:

I grew up in Nigeria -- primary school, secondary school, University even. I never really embraced the tribalistic ideals of many, matter of fact the issue disgusts me but it would be denying reality if I tried to posit that tribalism isn't a big mountain in the way of progress Nigeria over. It is, and it is not only limited to the north or the South East. It is almost become the norm in all Nigerian circles -- politics, religion  -- all have somehow have tribalism entrenched into the system.
The average Nigerian living in Nigeria has to deal with it almost on a daily basis . . . from the student applying to schools, to the unemployed citizen trying to get a job. Even beggars have to deal with it, and our politicians play the card so they can loot some more. It is all there and even though you have personally not experienced it much, do not mistake that to mean it does not exist or it is not a serious problem that ought to be tackled. We hear of how bad racism is and was in America almost daily -- well tribalism in Nigeria is at least 1000 times worse considering it is possible to live in America and not even experience racism in all your years here but in Nigeria, you might get it right from the airport.

Definitely not. I lived in Lagos for 7 years so yeah, I went to school with a lot of Yoruba kids. But then, I was young so didn't really grasp the language too well but I'm not completely oblivious about the people and culture, I know some. And of course, I also schooled with Igbo kids, and then few people from the South - Edo, Delta, etc. That's about it - I don't have much knowledge about Hausa people and the many minority groups.

Ileke-IdI:

Wow interesting. Last time I went to Nigeria, I wasn't looking for any sign of tribalism, maybe that's why I didnt sense it. I might have mistaken it for a personal issue.

But why do SOME Nigerians on NL that live/lived  in Nigeria deny any sign of tribalism? Like the poster?

Ileke-IdI:

Wow interesting. Last time I went to Nigeria, I wasn't looking for any sign of tribalism, maybe that's why I didnt sense it. I might have mistaken it for a personal issue.

Ileke-IdI:

But why do SOME Nigerians on NL that live/lived  in Nigeria deny any sign of tribalism? Like the poster?

Ileke-IdI:

Interesting.  

Should I be feeling ashamed? As old as I am [56] and still not exposed? I can tell an Igbo person from an Hausa person, but not a Yoruba person from an Edo person. Know nothing about the minority groups at all

See, I don't think you have to look for it to sense it.

Remember back when in America, the majority of the white population did not see anything wrong with denigrating another human being simply for being of a different skin color? Well, it is not that racism did not exist back then, only that those who were supposed to be sensitive to these things were not. Not until they were made to realize that these treatments were wrong did we even start discussing abolition here and elsewhere in the world.

Kobojunkie:

The poster does not live in Nigeria. If you have ever read his tribal-toned posts, you would get that he is one of the few I spoke of earlier who were raised to believe their tribe ought to be right at the top of the list. He spent so much time discussing his many conversations he had with his father and how he was made to believe his tribe needs him and stuff like that  ,  . lol

Today he is saying he is not a racist(tribalist), but if I were sitting in the same room with him, and having to speak up against any folk from his side of the country, I would make sure I am sitting right next to the door so I can escape if things turn ugly . .  ROFLMAO!!

June 12th 1993 riot opened my eyes to what Nigerians were capable of. I mean if you were driving through lagos during the days that followed, it would have been hard for you to miss the many bodies lying right on the road. Neighbours killing neigbours, all for what? NOTHING!

Today he is saying he is not a racist(tribalist), but if I were sitting in the same room with him, and having to speak up against any folk from his side of the country, I would make sure I am sitting right next to the door so I can escape if things turn ugly . .  ROFLMAO!

006:

What happens is that most people pretend a lot, but when they want to “finish you” because you’re from another tribe, then they’ll show no mercy. Mind you, they only pretend when there’s nothing much they could do; but when the table turns and they could wield their power/influence, then expect nothing less. They won't hide that hatred.

chiogo:

56 indeed, even with this username change, you're still the same. I liked FL_Gators.  
Yeah, it's hard to differentiate between the minorities. Even I still don't know the native languages of most of them. I blame the whole concept of having 'minority groups' in a country like Nigeria. We're used to only the three main languages(Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa) as even google recognizes.