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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by deomelo: 5:04am On Oct 10, 2018
baby124:

Even if other tribes are outside their homeland, majority are still at home. That 14m is probably 60% of eligible SW voters by the way. So what are you saying? The fact is that even if other tribes are in the region, their voting strength is not significant when you consider the region as a whole. There are also Yoruba’s in SS and the North. But when the regions are looked at, it is at the majority impact of votes and how they swing. SW is the most unpredictable zone and you must perform or the vote against you. They are not blindly loyal to a party but to performers. This forces candidates to try to bet against their unpredictability. They could also vote based on interest.

You don’t realize that Atiku would have promised delegates from several zones many things. The shocker Wike and other PDP stalwarts got, where do you think most of those delegates who voted for Atiku came from? Probably NE and SW. so all these promises and calculations have probably been done before his emergence and winning the presidential primary. Gbenga Daniels as campaign manager was not a mistake. I am sure he worked hard on SW delegates who can cut across the SW and North. Wike thought he had the SS and SE votes down for Tambuwal. His mistake was that he neglected other zones and the possible diversity within. You know the SW’ers within PDP we’re not happy for not getting the chairmanship. Another mistake by Wike. If he gave SW chairmanship, the VP slot will no doubt go to SE. The SE PDP members obviously have no strategy or goal. So blame them and not the SW’ers who probably saw a bigger opportunity and negotiated.




This is why the SE is still politically and socially irrelevant and disposable, their leaders starting from ZIK before independence are not smart, they are politically and strategically weak and collectively shallow, they are also very shortsighted because they can not see or reason beyond emotions and sentiments.

Political players outside their borders run circles around them, they manipulate and use them because they know how inept SE leaders are, even the ones on NL ranting all over the place are in the same boat, they are totally void of sane, realistic and rational thoughts.

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Ategberoson(m): 5:06am On Oct 10, 2018
Fxwarrior:


Very sensible argument.


you can say that again when your brain can't accommodate a psychological wider range

what's sensitive in that babysit talk. so Tinubu should leave his party because of one confused party that don't know in a Nigeria they used region and religion to vote, they're expected to pick candidates where the incumbent govt candidates came from

if you Igbo are Buhari's VP, would you've vote if atiku pick southwest as candidate?

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by contigiency(m): 5:11am On Oct 10, 2018
mycar:
The funny thing is that all the people demanding for a SW VP are APC members.

Who are those APC members making the demand? or you just want to be unecessary relevant. Mention them or you keep quiet for us to read comments from those who have something meaningful to say.

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Mujtahida: 5:11am On Oct 10, 2018
safarigirl:
The entire country will lose out to Buhari


The Yorubas had the Presidency for 8 years, the only thing they are is greedy


The most patient people in Nigeria have been the Igbos who have received nothing but insult and ridicule for the last 19 years after supporting PDP, even when the same Yorubas abandoned them in 2015. And now that they ought to get some compensation for such uncommon loyalty, the same greedy Yorubas, whom these Igbos supported for Presidency for 8 years, want to come and snatch it from under them. Did Igbo peopoe not Vite massively for OBJ in 2004, even when Yoruba peoppe stood against him?


Humility, is that not the height of wickedness, selfishness and injustice? That you will shamelessly take from a man, what he has suffered and sweat for, to what end?

Is it not greed? Does it not say a lot of you as a people? Is this how loyalty should be paid? That Igbo should vote for Atiku and a SW VP and abandon Buhari? Then they stand the risk of being shut out another 8 years

In 2027, who will they have to step down for? Another Yoruba man?


If Igbo people do not get VP with Atiku, they will help in Buhari's win, after which they can at least hope he will hand over to an Igbo man in 2023. Nobody will play us for fools one more time.


We may not be politically savvy, but we will be nobody's fool.
Don't play this politics of tribe and ethnic group. It's the norm but don't get into it.

So long as this politics of tribe and ethnic group continues along the lines we have it now Igbos will never get what they want. Can't you guys see it. The numbers are like magic now and the Yorubas and Hausa Fulani use it to play you guys like a dog chasing it's tail. The best bet for the Igbos is to stop running along this road and push for an alternative whereby local politics takes precedence in all ramifications over national politics such that the presidency becomes an empty basket.

The best bet of the Igbos is to strongly push for a restructured Nigeria whereby the centre is drastically reduced in significance. Atiku has dangled the carrot of restructuring and many are buying into it. I am a strong advocate for restructuring but I don't think Atiku will do it in the way it is thought. What he might do is to devolve more power to the states than they currently have. But even that is a significant gain. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a step.

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by gurnam: 5:12am On Oct 10, 2018
grin grin
The igbos saw the PDP VP as their birthright and a natural thing in 2019. They didn’t foresee what is unraveling.- no plan..no strategy..no foresight. They were busy causing problems for Buhari with their Biafra madness

They are beginning to see themselves as natural owner of PDP where the SW should always be marginalized.

They were happy when the SW was denied the chairmanship of the party and that is coming home to hurt them.

An Uche cannot be the chairman of the party and a Obi or Ngozi the VP.

How they keep failing in this simple political calculation is amazing.

Maybe the Igbo man natural greed to have everything is playing a part in their politics

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Firstorderwizard(m): 5:12am On Oct 10, 2018
mycar:
Then that negates everything, what is worth doing is worth doing fine, no more no less.

Everybody is tired of Buhari, pick your VP from SE and you have 99% SE & SS and 50% SW with you, get 50% North and you are good to go
SW should go for SP, they can push their agenda from there.

Whether South east VP or not, the most important thing is to kick out Buhari come 2019
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by alexvatt(m): 5:14am On Oct 10, 2018
safarigirl:
The entire country will lose out to Buhari


The Yorubas had the Presidency for 8 years, the only thing they are is greedy


The most patient people in Nigeria have been the Igbos who have received nothing but insult and ridicule for the last 19 years after supporting PDP, even when the same Yorubas abandoned them in 2015. And now that they ought to get some compensation for such uncommon loyalty, the same greedy Yorubas, whom these Igbos supported for Presidency for 8 years, want to come and snatch it from under them. Did Igbo peopoe not Vite massively for OBJ in 2004, even when Yoruba peoppe stood against him?


Humility, is that not the height of wickedness, selfishness and injustice? That you will shamelessly take from a man, what he has suffered and sweat for, to what end?

Is it not greed? Does it not say a lot of you as a people? Is this how loyalty should be paid? That Igbo should vote for Atiku and a SW VP and abandon Buhari? Then they stand the risk of being shut out another 8 years

In 2027, who will they have to step down for? Another Yoruba man?


If Igbo people do not get VP with Atiku, they will help in Buhari's win, after which they can at least hope he will hand over to an Igbo man in 2023. Nobody will play us for fools one more time.


We may not be politically savvy, but we will be nobody's fool.
Buhari will not give any Igbo presidency. But Yorubas can help Igbos to help them actualise their dream.
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Firstorderwizard(m): 5:14am On Oct 10, 2018
tochukwuifediba:
Vice Presidency must come to South East or Buhari continue

Who VP help? I'm only interested in voting out Buhari come 2019.
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by justphillips(m): 5:16am On Oct 10, 2018
Buterflyle0:


grin
They have started again o.

Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by 2016v2017: 5:17am On Oct 10, 2018
diebuhari1:
Yes, most Igbos will never dream of voting for Buhari even with a gun to their forehead, but there are other parties and also an option of boycotting the elections if PDP betrays us and that would be a disaster for Atiku and PDP.
For 16 years of PDP rule, none of the top 2 positions went to the SE despite the unflinching support from the region, now some people are still suggesting rubbish.
I don't know why Yorubas want to reap where they did not sow
truth

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by ihatecorruption: 5:17am On Oct 10, 2018
Atiku is a looter shocked shocked shocked

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by omokab: 5:18am On Oct 10, 2018
FarahAideed:


Liar Atiku was already worth Over 50 million dollars by 1983 by mid 90s he was a super financer of the Shehu Yaradua political movt ....By 1999 he was clear worth over 150miliin dollars...Even Tinubu will vote for Atiku because the Tinubu family have been one of the biggest beneficiary ..Till date WaLe Tinubu and co owe Atiku over 200 million dollars he invested in Oando to help stabilize them
see how you are implicating atifku the great looter. If I may ask, what type of job atifkunating was doing before he became the vice president of federal republic of nigeria I think a custom officer. How much was he earning then as a custom officer? A thief is a thief. If a cutom officer can get such money, he suppose to be in imprson by now.

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Fxwarrior: 5:23am On Oct 10, 2018
Ategberoson:



you can say that again when your brain can't accommodate a psychological wider range

what's sensitive in that babysit talk. so Tinubu should leave his party because of one confused party that don't know in a Nigeria they used region and religion to vote, they're expected to pick candidates where the incumbent govt candidates came from

if you Igbo are Buhari's VP, would you've vote if atiku pick southwest as candidate?

Can we leave out sentiments and tribes and tell ourselves the truth?

Is the economic situation of things in Nigeria okay by you? Okonjo Iweala was appointed Worldbank president, do you stop to think just for a minute to understand what that means.

If she was incompetent, would that be possible? Now think for a moment if she brings that experience to turns things around for the better for you, your family and unborn children. Wouldn't that be good for everybody.

Rotaract: The 4 way things of the things we say, think or do.

1. Is it the truth?
2. Is it fair to all concerned?
3. Will it bring goodwill and better friendship?
4. Will it be beneficial to all concerned?

Obasanjo, a south westerner has been in power for 8 years. How can south west talk of marginalisation?

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by lonelydora: 5:24am On Oct 10, 2018
deomelo:





This is why the SE is still politically and socially irrelevant and disposable, their leaders starting from ZIK before independence are not smart, they are politically and strategically weak and collectively shallow, they are also very shortsighted because they can not see or reason beyond emotions and sentiments.

Political players outside their borders run circles around them, they manipulate and use them because they know how inept SE leaders are, even the ones on NL ranting all over the place are in the same boat, they are totally void of sane, realistic and rational thoughts.




We have been marginalised since 1960, so why do you want us to still foo.l ourselves by involving in all your political mathematics? We focus on our private businesses and not 'looted' money. All we are asking is create a level playing field for us.
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by alexvatt(m): 5:26am On Oct 10, 2018
EternalTruths:



Yoruba people on Nairaland are childish in reasoning.
They keep shouting 14m without finding what constitutes the 14m.

50% of that 14m are non indigenes.
lies

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Mujtahida: 5:28am On Oct 10, 2018
oodualover:
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How can half of voters in the sw be non indigenes? You smoke weed? Ho many non indigenes gave Abiola their mandate in 1993?
1993? Na wa ooo. More than 20 years later? And you disregard changes in demographics and migration?
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Basher8583: 5:29am On Oct 10, 2018
FarahAideed:


Liar Atiku was already worth Over 50 million dollars by 1983 by mid 90s he was a super financer of the Shehu Yaradua political movt ....By 1999 he was clear worth over 150miliin dollars...Even Tinubu will vote for Atiku because the Tinubu family have been one of the biggest beneficiary ..Till date WaLe Tinubu and co owe Atiku over 200 million dollars he invested in Oando to help stabilize them
So taking from your writeup, e don tey since Atiku don dey thief money. Shege! grin shocked

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Fxwarrior: 5:30am On Oct 10, 2018
alexvatt:
Buhari will not give any Igbo presidency. But Yorubas can help Igbos to help them actualise their dream.

embarassed
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Mujtahida: 5:31am On Oct 10, 2018
Sanchez01:

I HOPE YOU ARE AWARE THAT THE 2023 ELECTIONS WON'T BE ABOUT IGBOS BUT THE SOUTH??
Safarigirl do you see what I am saying? They will keep playing you guys.
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Ategberoson(m): 5:34am On Oct 10, 2018
Fxwarrior:


Can we leave out sentiments and tribes and tell ourselves the truth?

Is the economic situation of things in Nigeria okay by you? Okonjo Iweala was appointed Worldbank president, do you stop to think just for a minute to understand what that means.

If she was incompetent, would that be possible? Now think for a moment if she brings that experience to turns things around for the better for you, your family and unborn children. Wouldn't that be good for everybody.

Rotaract: The 4 way things of the things we say, think or do.

1. Is it the truth?
2. Is it fair to all concerned?
3. Will it bring goodwill and better friendship?
4. Will it be beneficial to all concerned?

Obasanjo, a south westerner has been in power for 8 years. How can south west talk of marginalisation?


NOI was a national disaster. someone of her calibre can't even advise the president on repetition of budget deficit in gej govt which she was the finance minister. her economic achievement was a mere paperwork

record at it that Nigeria external reserved that he took OBJ despite corrupted to built went down under her nose

international recognition doesn't cohere. with national development. this administration might not be getting it right yet but NOI is not a good candidate to settle with


leaving the economic talk, no sw will vote for north/east ticket. it will rather build the strong alignment btw Hausa and Yoruba. Igbo can only be president and VP through incumbency aid as Hausa don't have political trust for igbo

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by enemyofprogress: 5:34am On Oct 10, 2018
tochukwuifediba:
Vice Presidency must come to South East or Buhari continue
If Buhari continues pythons would return to finish what it started in Igbo land
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by caracas: 5:41am On Oct 10, 2018
NotJustOkay:


You would have made sense if igbos were able to give Gej 1m votes in kano in 2015 since your population in kano is 4m according to ohaneze.

Voting population is diff from actual population. igbo voting population in sw is not up to 300k.
Like i Said before u know nada check statistics again
N for ur info igbos were not allowed to vote in the North .
More than 10 million igbos ran away with their pvcs in 2015.
It wud not be the same this time around.
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Ajalekoko76(m): 5:41am On Oct 10, 2018
Daewang:
Igbos have been making all the sacrifices for PDP all this while and taking the attacks and insults. The VP position must come to SE or else we destroy everything. I personally would campaign against Atiku let everything burn down. We are not fools.

Ur vex ehnnnnn. I thought U want Biafra nation. I thought U want to leave zoo, I thought U want referendum not election. My dear U can't be a rebel and u want us to entrust with U highest or sensitive positions. Google INEC registration region by region and C ur position,u can't reap where u don't sow. In SE we have APGA,APC,PDP and Oby is a presidential candidate of a party where haba! Greediness will not kill U.

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Mujtahida: 5:43am On Oct 10, 2018
Buterflyle0:


Please get your rant right before you toss it about. This has absolutely nothing to do with Yorubas. It has EVERYTHING to do with Atiku and PDP with the choices they feel would selfishly work for them

For the entire 16 years PDP was in power they had 4 inaugurations and at no time during these inauguration did they look the way of an SE candidate. The blame is solely on PDP and nobody else.

Now the same PDP is about to repeat another inauguration and also sideline those from the SE while fielding a northern candidate who would surely want to run for 2 terms. The blame is solely on PDP.

If they choose to give the VP slot to the SW are we to reject it? Why would we?

High northern votes forced them to field a northern candidate with the hopes of eating into it.

High SW votes would also force them to want to pick a VP from the SW. Whose fault is it?


The SE themselves only want to have an entitlement nature to everything. Align with those that can help you push your agenda of Presidency forward but your hatred would never let you all reason sensibly.

You cursed all other regions including the Fulani's and now karma has blessed you with a Fulani whom you are all now looking up to for scraps of VP to fall from his table grin the irony of life.

Play politics of trust and not disloyalty. Align and stop hating and maybe...just maybe the rest of the nation can learn to trust you again.

Stop blaming the yorubas we are not Nnamdi Kanu.
Safarigirl sorry for the mentions but I just want to drive my point home. As far as it's national politics resting on a game of numbers it's always going to be magic for the Igbos. If you guys chase it to the North, the thing will run south, if you chase it to the south it would run North. And always it would be outsiders (just like this butterfly is doing now) who would be telling you guys 'if only you do it like this, if only you had done it like this'. You guys will never be able to get your bearing as far as national politics is concerned even more so because somehow Igbos have become schizophrenic with the clamour for Biafra which has riven the Igbo soul into two.

Best bet: stop the race and push for a restructured Nigeria.

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by emmie14: 5:44am On Oct 10, 2018
Daewang:
Igbos have been making all the sacrifices for PDP all this while and taking the attacks and insults. The VP position must come to SE or else we destroy everything. I personally would campaign against Atiku let everything burn down. We are not fools.
You made your points and they are facts. I stand for change. If South west VP is a solution to rescue Nigeria from APC evil destruction let them have it. Patriotism should be our first interest. The truth , Yorubas will pocket the position and still betray PDP. The question remains; are Yorubas not experiencing the hardship in Nigeria? Do the buy petrol different price from PDP members? Their prime reasons is osinbanjo VP and decisions made by Tinubu. We are in the situation together.
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by deomelo: 5:46am On Oct 10, 2018
lonelydora:


We have been marginalised since 1960 so why do you want us to still foo.l ourselves by involving in all your political mathematics? We focus on our private businesses and not 'looted' money. All we are asking is create a level playing field for us.



Unfortunately for you, you are either too young to know how Nigeria was created and the ignoble and destructive role your forefathers played to sell you out to the North in return for a second fiddle boy boy VP role to the North or intentionally ignorant

Learn your own history and the meaning of marginalization.

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Mujtahida: 5:49am On Oct 10, 2018
BabangidaHamza:
may God spare us good life and Health to witness how una atiku would be defeated by 12noon.. He interfared in God's Authority and you call that cheap? NW votes would erase all the SS and SE votes with a margin of 2million votes... To hell with you 5%
Quit using God's authority to deceive people. Where has God's authority taken your people? religion without material well being is a fraud. God's authority is in UAE, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Qatar, Turkey and other Muslim countries making progress. In Nigeria it's just a word used to fool and deceive people.
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Kyase(m): 5:50am On Oct 10, 2018
kaliboi94:

God forbid for south east to vote APC even though atiku pick a Fulani man as vice. The highest tin south east would do is to boycott the election like they did in 2015
Who boycott the election in 2015? cheesy

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by ebikels: 5:51am On Oct 10, 2018
Saraki is one of the decision makers and he would like to return as Senate President
mycar:
Then that negates everything, what is worth doing is worth doing fine, no more no less.

Everybody is tired of Buhari, pick your VP from SE and you have 99% SE & SS and 50% SW with you, get 50% North and you are good to go
SW should go for SP, they can push their agenda from there.

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Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by sellers4buyers(m): 5:51am On Oct 10, 2018
Now the reality has dawn on our SE brothers that politics is a game of numbers and not sentiments.
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by papascode: 5:57am On Oct 10, 2018
mycar:
Then that negates everything, what is worth doing is worth doing fine, no more no less.

Everybody is tired of Buhari, pick your VP from SE and you have 99% SE & SS and 50% SW with you, get 50% North and you are good to go
SW should go for SP, they can push their agenda from there.

WHERE WERE THE PDP SOUTH WEST LEADERS WHEN THEY ALLOWED TINUBU SWEEP THE WHOLE SOUTH WEST. When Jonathan contested election which they claim were marginalised didn't he get considerable votes from the south west? The North central will be the deciding factor too for victory. BUHARI WILL WIN SOUTH WEST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO VIE FOR PRESIDENT 2023 WEITHER ATIKU CHOOSE VICE OR NOT FROM THEM
Re: South-East 'Has A Strong Case' But Atiku’s Running Mate To Come From South-West by Mccullum: 5:57am On Oct 10, 2018
tochukwuifediba:
Vice Presidency must come to South East or Buhari continue

Because of that you can declared for continuity of Buhari... What a pity!

You're hypocrite and unpatriotic citizen...

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