Steep:
well Jesus given glory because he took a lower position Phil 2.

Emusan:


Olodo people use Jesus eternal Sonship to denote His Divinity.

He clarified his point in the second paragraph by saying "God the father declared him as his son when he was born."

Emusan MUMU , you are the eternal son of your Father. That is your family history & lineage.
"Eternal Sonship NEVER denotes Divinity.

Emusan: "Jesus became a Son on earth"
. This shows that Jesus was NEVER a Son at some point "



Steep:
Steep post=128894145:

1. "Jesus had an eternal son- father relationship with his father, meaning his sonship had no beginning
2. God the father declared him as his son when he was born."

Trinitarians,you people are just too dull.
You people need Bible study badly.

Janosky:


Oga Steep stop deceiving yourself.

John 17:22
Jesus said:. "The glory you gave to me I have given to them, that they may be one just as we are one"

The question is:
Oga Steep,Which possession did Jesus Christ give God his Father?"

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Steep:
It had already being predetermined by the father before creation that christ would take a lower position to save mankind and after that he would recieve honor and glory befitting him.
So the father had already given him (preordained all things for him before creation).

The father,Son and Holy Spirit has different roles.

Aemmyjah:



Why should the father do the predestination if they are all equal (trinity)

Steep:
When we say they are equal but different roles.

Aemmyjah:

Jesus never said he's equal to the father
Who taught you that they are equal?

MaxInDHouse:


It's like you hate Trinity shey?

Abeg forget the Bible and listen to Trinity that's what Trinity teaches both the father, Son and Holy Ghost are coequal.
Hallelujah!

Aemmyjah:



Jesus never said he's equal to the father
Who taught you that they are equal?

Aemmyjah:

Bible mentions ranking or headship of husband, wife, christ and God...
Of that's the case, we can equally say woman amd man amd equal and call it quinity
The head of the wife is the husband
Head of husband is christ
Head of christ is God
Where's any equality?

Steep:
That is because Jesus took a lower position as a servant.

MaxInDHouse:


Aemmyjah! Aemmyjah!! Aemmyjah!!!

Nah Bible you dey quote so abeg leave Bible and listen to TRINITY small nah.

TRINITY say Father, Son and Holy Ghost are coequal whatever Jesus or Paul say is of no relevance before the most holy Trinity jọọ!

Steep:
That is because Jesus took a lower position as a servant.

MaxInDHouse:


Gbam!

Aemmyjah come and collect your change the holy Trinity has revealed the secret!

Aemmyjah:

How can a equal god take up servant position to his equal
Something you won't even see among imperfect humans
Not even in the animal world

Janosky:



Emusan MUMU , you are the eternal son of your Father. That is your family history & lineage.
"Eternal Sonship NEVER denotes Divinity.

Emusan: "Jesus became a Son on earth"
. This shows that Jesus was NEVER a Son at some point "



Steep:
Steep post=128894145:

1. "Jesus had an eternal son- father relationship with his father, meaning his sonship had no beginning
2. God the father declared him as his son when he was born."

Trinitarians,you people are just too dull.
You people need Bible study badly.

Aemmyjah:


Why then was the glorified Jesus seen standing at God's right hand

Let's agree they were equal
Bible says the glorified Jesus was raised to a superior position
Would that not make him greater than the father?

Aemmyjah:


Bible mentions ranking or headship of husband, wife, christ and God...

Of that's the case, we can equally say woman amd man amd equal and call it quinity

The head of the wife is the husband
Head of husband is christ
Head of christ is God

Where's any equality?

Aemmyjah:
Jesus never said he's equal to the father
Who taught you that they are equal?

Emusan:


Scripture actually taught Jesus is equal to God which is The Father in this case.

Well, as usual the comprehension skills will be lost when reading a verse like below.

Phil 2:6 - Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God. - CEV

Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained - AMPC

Who, while being in the form of God, did not regard the being equal with God a thing-to-be-grasped - DLNT

He was like God in every way, but he did not think that his being equal with God was something to use for his own benefit. - ERV

Christ had the same nature as God. He was completely equal with God. But he did not try to keep hold of that. - EASY

Though he was by nature God, he did not consider equality with God as a prize to be displayed - EHV

Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; - NIV

Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. - NLT

Which version do you find hard or simple to understand?

Emusan:


This single post shows you don't even understand what you're arguing against.

Since the husband is the head of the wife, does that mean the man is NOW MORE HUMAN than the woman?

By nature both Husband and wife are EQUAL but by position the husband is the HEAD or greater than the wife.

The same mistake watchtower made in John 1:1 when compare with the story of Adam and Eve.

Simple thing that a pupil will understand.

Steep:
You have difficulty in comprehension. Scriptures revealed that Jesus tool a lower position of a servant, Hebrews reveals that Jesus like Adam in his unfallen state was a little lower than the angels.
Jesus said the "father is greater than him" Jesus took a lower position at the same time Jesus claimed divinity only attributed to the father.
If a king took up the job of a class teacher, He is lower than the principal yet greater than the principle as a king.
Jesus took a lower position and after he has completed his mission was exalted above all creation but his humanity still remains a lower than the father.

Aemmyjah:
Olodo
Husband and wife are both human and you say one is greater in position

Jehovah and Jesus are both spirit but you won't say one is greater...

Aemmyjah:
In other words

MaxInDHouse was truly MaxInDHouse but he did not try to be equal to MaxInDHouse

Issok

Emusan:


At least you can see that the scripture actually said both Jesus and the Father are EQUAL.

Well, that's why I said earlier that you don't even understand what you're arguing against.

Educate yourself about Trinity first before coming to a public forum to disgrace yourself.

Emusan:


But you just quoted where the scripture says the HEAD of the wife is the MAN.

So is the man not GREATER in position than the woman despite the fact that they were both HUMAN?



Can you imagine.

So all spirit are ALL EQUAL bah

Anas09:
You are talking about the same entity. What you call Father is the Essence or the Substance which filled and indwelled a material vessel, human whom we call Jesus.

Jehovah the Essence/Substance/Spirit is higher/Heavenly, what we know and call the son is a body prepared for a single purpose (death), and it's a lil lower than the Angels who are lower than the Father.

So, what made it seemed like the Father was greater than son was the human nature. The human nature became the son, while the divine nature was right inside the son was the father. But you couldn't separate the Father from the son just like, you can't separate a man's soul from his body. The entity called Jesus is the Father/ Substance/Holy Spirit which dwelled in a human body called Jesus. In Him all Fullness dwelled. Father-son-spirit. they are not three, but one.

Big mystery only for the initiates.

Emusan:


Scripture actually taught Jesus is equal to God which is The Father in this case.

Well, as usual the comprehension skills will be lost when reading a verse like below.

Phil 2:6 - Christ was truly God. But he did not try to remain equal with God. - CEV

Who, although being essentially one with God and in the form of God [possessing the fullness of the attributes which make God God], did not think this equality with God was a thing to be eagerly grasped or retained - AMPC

Who, while being in the form of God, did not regard the being equal with God a thing-to-be-grasped - DLNT

He was like God in every way, but he did not think that his being equal with God was something to use for his own benefit. - ERV

Christ had the same nature as God. He was completely equal with God. But he did not try to keep hold of that. - EASY

Though he was by nature God, he did not consider equality with God as a prize to be displayed - EHV

Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; - NIV

Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to. - NLT

Which version do you find hard or simple to understand?

The same ghost deceiving you Emusan told Bill Mounce (your fellow Trinitarian) that you are LYING.
Screenshot evidence of Phil 2:6 Mounce Greek interlinear.

Jesus Christ a spirit in the form of God did not think equality with God a thing to be grasped "


Jesus said himself is inferior to God his Father, John 14:28 & Revelation 3:12.
Why would he grasp equality which Jesus said doesn't not exist?
LYING no dey tire Trinitarians.

Anas09:
You are talking about the same entity. What you call Father is the Essence or the Substance which filled and indwelled a material vessel, human whom we call Jesus.

Jehovah the Essence/Substance/Spirit is higher/Heavenly, what we know and call the son is a body prepared for a single purpose (death), and it's a lil lower than the Angels who are lower than the Father.

So, what made it seemed like the Father was greater than son was the human nature. The human nature became the son, while the divine nature was right inside the son was the father. But you couldn't separate the Father from the son just like, you can't separate a man's soul from his body. The entity called Jesus is the Father/ Substance/Holy Spirit which dwelled in a human body called Jesus. In Him all Fullness dwelled. Father-son-spirit. they are not three, but one.

Big mystery only for the initiates.

Emusan:


At least you can see that the scripture actually said both Jesus and the Father are EQUAL.

Well, that's why I said earlier that you don't even understand what you're arguing against.

Educate yourself about Trinity first before coming to a public forum to disgrace yourself.

Aemmyjah:



In other words

MaxInDHouse was truly MaxInDHouse but he did not try to be equal to MaxInDHouse

Issok

Steep:
It had already being predetermined by the father before creation that christ would take a lower position to save mankind and after that he would recieve honor and glory befitting him.
So the father had already given him (preordained all things for him before creation).

The father,Son and Holy Spirit has different roles.

Oga, you said Jesus has everything his Father owns.
Jesus said his Father GIVEN them to him (Jesus).

Oga,you have not answered the question.
The question is:
Oga Steep,Which possession did Jesus Christ give God his Father?"