The Words of Jesus, the only wise foundation to build your house upon!

Thunder Fire Jesus Amen!

budaatum:
Thunder Fire Jesus Amen!

Do you mean Jesus or jesusjnr? If I hurt you, you don't have to take it out on my Lord now, but hit me that hurt you. Except you trying to get back at me by hitting at my Master, well that's not gonna work because if you know what has already been said about Him in the past, you would know that this is close to nothing!

jesusjnr:
Do you mean Jesus or jesusjnr? If I hurt you, you don't have to take it out on my Lord now, but hit me that hurt you. Except you trying to get back at me by hitting at my Master, well that's not gonna work because if you know what has already been said about Him in the past, you would know that this is close to nothing!

I meant Jesus. And not in a bad way.

budaatum:

I meant Jesus. And not in a bad way.

Well if it was your intention, you lost me there because I can't figure out how you would say such a thing concerning him and still mean well.

And i feel that you owe me some explanation, at least for someone who was willing to take a punt on you when most felt you were too much of a risky bet?

Wisdom is justified of her children!

I am wise because I built my house on the Rock, that is, the Words of Jesus!

jesusjnr:
Well if it was your intention, you lost me there because I can't figure out how you would say such a thing concerning him and still mean well.

And i feel that you owe me some explanation, at least for someone who was willing to take a punt on you when most felt you were too much of a risky bet?

Perhaps you read it wrong? Perhaps you read me wrong, hence the punt?

There is power, they say, in Jesus name. See my expression as a prayer prayed in tongues that knees bow to the contents of the thread.

The secret of the first ever church!

Speaking of the rock foundation!

The Rock of God which guarantees that the gates of hell is Nada!

jesusjnr:
There's a gospel being spread around the world, by people who claim to be followers of Jesus, that to believe in Jesus you do not need to obey his words, but this is what Jesus himself, who they claim to be their Lord, said:

"And every one that
heareth these
sayings of mine, and
doeth them not, shall
be likened unto a
foolish man, which built his house upon
the sand: And the rain
descended, and the
floods came, and the
winds blew, and beat
upon that house; and
it fell: and great was the fall of it." Mt 7:26-27.(KJV).

This is what Jesus himself said, therefore you must be wary of such people and such gospels which they preach, for their gospel is like the sand, and believing it is like building your house upon the sand, and only a foolish man would do that as Jesus himself said. Therefore be wise for it's Jesus alone who will determine who gets into eternal life and who doesn't and no one else, so that you don't build a house that ends up crashing into hell. They say, "A word is enough for the wise".

First of all, any preacher that preaches disobedience that Christ word is of the devil. (although I'm sure you're just attacking grace preachers and peddling lies about them)

2ndly you took the gospel out of context (as usual).
Jesus was telling us that any good work that is done without faith in him is like building a house on a sandy foundation.
Only in him (faith in him) is like a house built on a rock.

For anyone who is a true follower of Jesus, the obedience of His Words is sacrosanct!

Obedience is key!

The children of wisdom keep Jesus' Words!

Jesus is only your lord if you keep his word!

jesusjnr:
Obedience is key!

Following your posts, at first I thought you meant well but later found out that you are just another in serious error. Who's Jesus and who's Paul? Why do you make it sound as if they both meant and taught different doctrines, it is people like you that divide scriptures, esteeming one part above another when all are God breathed and are in harmony. Jesus is truly God and truly man and though He walked among humans as a man He never rebuked anybody who worshipped or referred to Him as God, He even called Himself God several times (proving His deity). Paul on the other hand was a mere man whom God appointed an Apostle, he unlike Jesus did not refer to himself as God, rebuked men who referred to him as a god, worshipped God, referred to Jesus as his Lord (proving his inferiority to Christ) therefore having no authority of his own. Paul's Gospel and teachings were all Jesus', there are no discrepancies at all otherwise bring them. It is therefore ridiculous saying Jesus is your Lord and not Paul, why should that even come up?. Is there any book written by Jesus Himself? I should then ask you how you got to know about Jesus, following your sense of reasoning Matthew, Mark, Luke, John could have been mistaken or told you lies about what Jesus said too na, shallow reasoning. The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is the Gospel of Grace and the same was propagated by all His Apostles including Paul.

owoleola:
Following your posts, at first I thought you meant well but later found out that you are just another in serious error. Who's Jesus and who's Paul? Why do you make it sound as if they both meant and taught different doctrines, it is people like you that divide scriptures, esteeming one part above another when all are God breathed and are in harmony. Jesus is truly God and truly man and though He walked among humans as a man He never rebuked anybody who worshipped or referred to Him as God, He even called Himself God several times (proving His deity). Paul on the other hand was a mere man whom God appointed an Apostle, he unlike Jesus did not refer to himself as God, rebuked men who referred to him as a god, worshipped God, referred to Jesus as his Lord (proving his inferiority to Christ) therefore having no authority of his own. Paul's Gospel and teachings were all Jesus', there are no discrepancies at all otherwise bring them. It is therefore ridiculous saying Jesus is your Lord and not Paul, why should that even come up?. Is there any book written by Jesus Himself? I should then ask you how you got to know about Jesus, following your sense of reasoning Matthew, Mark, Luke, John could have been mistaken or told you lies about what Jesus said too na, shallow reasoning. The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is the Gospel of Grace and the same was propagated by all His Apostles including Paul.

To be honest you are right to say that those who gave us the teachings of Jesus, the greatest ever legacy to those of later generations inclusive of ours, could have made some mistakes, and they certainly could be observed in the few clashes of some of their accounts of the same events.

And they also gave their own perspectives on some of the accounts they gave, however the difference between those given accounts of the life and teachings of Jesus, and a book which is more or less their own epistles, such as those of Paul, was that instead of their perspective being the main event as it was in the epistles, it was the side event, while that of Jesus was the main and central event.

And concerning whatever mistakes Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John may have made, the fact that it wasn't just one person narrating it but several, which i know was the Lords doing anyway, made it very hard for there to be much errors because someone would be able to compare, contrast, verify etc., one account or more with another.

Of course the element of faith cannot be taken away from the equation, but God has done His own part to make it credible to that extent, so that the remaining part would be up to those who receive it to believe it or not.

You said it was people like me that divide the scripture and esteem one part above another, maybe you mean people like me, such as my Master Jesus because He made it very clear that certain scriptures are above others.

And you can read the following texts - Mt 23:23, Mk 12:28-31, Mt 5:19-49 - to confirm what I just said to you, and not just once but on several occasions. And that was one of the accusations leveled at Him by people like you at the time, therefore being a true disciple who has learnt at His Master's feet, it only feels like it's just happening all over again.

For It's forbidden to spot something contrary as such and say that this is not good enough for His church, just because it was included in the Bible. I already knew what I had was something that only those of the highest spiritual level or with such potential would be able to discern, so if you are still at your spiritually infantry level where such extent of knowledge has not entrusted to you, and you want to remain there, good for you.

After all, it was the same words that drove away some people from Jesus, that yet kept those that remained with Him(Jn 6:60-71). So I won't miss you because there are those here who have remained because of the same Words I preach that is chasing you away.

So they and the ones which are of the same fold that have not heard it yet are the reason I'm still gonna keep preaching it here!

owoleola:
Following your posts, at first I thought you meant well but later found out that you are just another in serious error. Who's Jesus and who's Paul? Why do you make it sound as if they both meant and taught different doctrines, it is people like you that divide scriptures, esteeming one part above another when all are God breathed and are in harmony. Jesus is truly God and truly man and though He walked among humans as a man He never rebuked anybody who worshipped or referred to Him as God, He even called Himself God several times (proving His deity). Paul on the other hand was a mere man whom God appointed an Apostle, he unlike Jesus did not refer to himself as God, rebuked men who referred to him as a god, worshipped God, referred to Jesus as his Lord (proving his inferiority to Christ) therefore having no authority of his own. Paul's Gospel and teachings were all Jesus', there are no discrepancies at all otherwise bring them. It is therefore ridiculous saying Jesus is your Lord and not Paul, why should that even come up?. Is there any book written by Jesus Himself? I should then ask you how you got to know about Jesus, following your sense of reasoning Matthew, Mark, Luke, John could have been mistaken or told you lies about what Jesus said too na, shallow reasoning. The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is the Gospel of Grace and the same was propagated by all His Apostles including Paul.

To be honest you are right to say that those who gave us the teachings of Jesus, the greatest ever legacy to those of later generations inclusive of ours, could have made some mistakes, and they certainly could be observed in the few clashes of some of their accounts of the same events.

And they also gave their own perspectives on some of the accounts they gave, however the difference between those given accounts of the life and teachings of Jesus, and a book which is more or less their own epistles, such as those of Paul, was that instead of their perspective being the main event as it was in the epistles, it was the side event, while that of Jesus was the main and central event.

And concerning whatever mistakes Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John may have made, the fact that it wasn't just one person narrating it but several, which i know was the Lords doing anyway, made it very hard for there to be much errors because someone would be able to compare, contrast, verify etc., one account or more with another.

Of course the element of faith cannot be taken away from the equation, but God has done His own part to make it credible to that extent, so that the remaining part would be up to those who receive it to believe it or not.

You said it was people like me that divide the scripture and esteem one part above another, maybe you mean people like me, such as my Master Jesus because He made it very clear that certain scriptures are above others.

And you can read the following texts - Mt 23:23, Mk 12:28-31, Mt 5:19-49 - to confirm what I just said to you, and not just once but on several occasions. And that was one of the accusations leveled at Him by people like you at the time, therefore being a true disciple who has learnt at His Master's feet, it only feels like it's just happening all over again.

For It's forbidden to spot something contrary as such and say that this is not good enough for His church, just because it was included in the Bible. I already knew what I had was something that only those of the highest spiritual level or with such potential would be able to discern, so if you are still at your spiritually infantry level where such extent of knowledge has not entrusted to you, and you want to remain there, good for you!

After all, it was the same words that drove away some people from Jesus, that yet kept those that remained with Him(Jn 6:60-71). So I won't miss you, because there are those here who have remained because of the same Words I preach that is chasing you away.

So they and the ones which are of the same fold that have not heard it yet are the reason I'm still gonna keep preaching it here!

The Rock that abideth forever!

jesusjnr:
To be honest you are right to say that those who gave us the teachings of Jesus, the greatest ever legacy to those of later generations inclusive of ours, could have made some mistakes, and they certainly could be observed in the few clashes of some of their accounts of the same events.

And they also gave their own perspectives on some of the accounts they gave, however the difference between those given accounts of the life and teachings of Jesus, and a book which is more or less their own epistles, such as those of Paul, was that instead of their perspective being the main event as it was in the epistles, it was the side event, while that of Jesus was the main and central event.

And concerning whatever mistakes Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John may have made, the fact that it wasn't just one person narrating it but several, which i know was the Lords doing anyway, made it very hard for there to be much errors because someone would be able to compare, contrast, verify etc., one account or more with another.

Of course the element of faith cannot be taken away from the equation, but God has done His own part to make it credible to that extent, so that the remaining part would be up to those who receive it to believe it or not.

You said it was people like me that divide the scripture and esteem one part above another, maybe you mean people like me, such as my Master Jesus because He made it very clear that certain scriptures are above others.

And you can read the following texts - Mt 23:23, Mk 12:28-31, Mt 5:19-49 - to confirm what I just said to you, and not just once but on several occasions. And that was one of the accusations leveled at Him by people like you at the time, therefore being a true disciple who has learnt at His Master's feet, it only feels like it's just happening all over again.

For It's forbidden to spot something contrary as such and say that this is not good enough for His church, just because it was included in the Bible. I already knew what I had was something that only those of the highest spiritual level or with such potential would be able to discern, so if you are still at your spiritually infantry level where such extent of knowledge has not entrusted to you, and you want to remain there, good for you!

After all, it was the same words that drove away some people from Jesus, that yet kept those that remained with Him(Jn 6:60-71). So I won't miss you, because there are those here who have remained because of the same Words I preach that is chasing you away.

So they and the ones which are of the same fold that have not heard it yet are the reason I'm still gonna keep preaching it here!

The way you draw out scriptures is terribly poor and alarming but that aside. Did Paul or any of the Apostles teach or preach another Gospel?

owoleola:
The way you draw out scriptures is terribly poor and alarming but that aside. Did Paul or any of the Apostles teach or preach another Gospel?

Thank you very much for that compliment, it's really good to know from your view that I'm on the right track!

jesusjnr:
Thank you very much for that compliment, it's really good to know from your view that I'm on the right track!

Really? . Well just answer my question

owoleola:
Really? . Well just answer my question

I'm not here for a joke but for a very serious business, so I try as much as possible to only respond to people that I consider worthy of a response. There are times I get it right and my judgment is being justified, there are other times I get it very wrong.

With the benefit of hindsight I really got it wrong with you, especially when I had already decided based on your first comments that you weren't worth a response from me, however I just thought I should give a chance to see if somehow you could prove my initial judgment wrong, but you failed woefully.

So I made a serious mistake by not going by my initial judgment, but then you lose some and you win some!

jesusjnr:
I'm not here for a joke but for a very serious business, so I try as much as possible to only respond to people that I consider worthy of a response. There are times I get it right and my judgment is being justified, there are other times I get it very wrong.

With the benefit of hindsight I really got it wrong with you, especially when I had already decided based on your first comments that you weren't worth a response from me, however I just thought I should give a chance to see if somehow you could prove my initial judgment wrong, but you failed woefully.

So I made a serious mistake by not going by my initial judgment, but then you lose some and you win some!

Whether scorned at, mocked or derided, you should still be courageous enough to make your point, stand beside it and defend with scriptures. You only have been ranting all this while about how Paul made mistakes and necessarily claiming his doctrines were a deviation from what our Lord Himself taught while He was on earth. And when asked how or why, you parry the question with silly excuses. You see, I am aware of the deviation from the true Gospel of Grace (as taught by our Lord and the Apostles) in our society nowadays among many christian circles, that which does not confront sin and ungodliness which I had of course determined to teach and preach against on social media and anywhere. But I am also aware of the other extreme, of those whom the Gospel of Grace comes as a threat to their damnable belief of "salvation by works or with works". When I came across your thread (the title) and read your first comment I was encouraged, only for me to read more and more to discover you could just be another person out there who despises the Gospel of Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. So prove me wrong, you can start by telling me what you understand by the Gospel and whether any of the Apostles (particularly Paul) taught anything of a different sort.

The only authentic Rock of God, every other na counterfeit!

I loves the Words of Jesus because they make me to be invincible!

The solid Rock on which my house is built!

The only Words than has the capacity to make a mortal man stronger than the devil!

The Truth that sets many free!

This is my invincible Foundation!