sorry oh! this is for all d fellas claiming that they would not want to marry a virgin; i really cant see what all the fuss is about cos in any case i know you wont marry the girl immediately you meet her, uare probably going to date for a while; and my assessment from all your posts is that you guys would definitely 'hit base' way before the wedding... or die trying!

casper:

peeps,

I prefer to marry a virgin ooo.if you are saying that there would be inexperienced, then why do they produce pornographic films they do it for married people who are inexperiened but the youths and everybody have spoilt that purpose,

I hope that was a joke o! I am sure that Ron Jeremy was not in those movies for educational purposes!

sade:

4 Sade:

Sorry dearie.. Don't want to sound insensitive, and I'm really not making fun out of the situation.. but I'm curious about something.. I hear they have surgical operations or techniques for "mending what has been broken"... is it true?.. have you heard of this?..

  Well I dont think I can answer that question because I'm not a doctor but I just believe a lady that has had sex before..either through rape or her consent is not a virgin and I dont see any big deal in not being a virgin because its not writen on the fore head, only you can say..so being a virgin or non-virgin is not a big deal.So MR Cimonjorr I hope I've answered your question because if there's any surgical operation to mend what has been broken then our mothers as well are virgins!!

Sade...

Like I said before, don't get me wrong.. as u can see from my posts, I haven't taken any stand on this issue as per whether or not I would be interested in marrying a virgin or not 'cos I frankly believe that that is just one miniscule aspect of marrige.. especially in today's society.. a girl can be a virgin and still make a horrible spouse, and vice versa... the bottom line criteria for marrige is compatibility, love and understanding.. not a girl's sexual history...

I was approaching this more from the angle of girls who had been raped, but still wanted their "virginity" [or should I be using the word "sexual integrity"] intact.. we know that in some parts of the world, it is a fundamental criteria for girls who are about to be married..

So.. please... no offense intended...

My 2 kobo...

Alright no problem but I'm not against you because we are all entitled to our own opinion.

hey seun the point that u say about a girl dating a guy or wah ever that she wants to marry or watever at the bein g should be to all the boys because all at they thing is about sexual watever they call it. this mostly should be said to legry who always talk about seeing a girl naked and have flesh to flesh sex with her

love4ever and legry again?

really, advice is ok and i while do agree with most of love4ever's philosophies, i think there should be a reduction on the personal attacks

For men, virgin/no virgin does not say anything much about the virtue of the girl you are with. I know a girl who is "around 25" and is still a virgin but it has nothing to do with virtue. In fact she wants to but the fear of losing some control of herself to a man even for a tiny minute, is what paralyzes her. As you can tell this is a big issue on its own that has nothing to do sex itself.

So you'll have to be her shrink or something. Fun huh? This girl has said however that she thinks it's important to have multiple experiences before marriage. So after you do all the work, she'll go and find another man to give all the good stuff to. I would think that a woman who has had all the experiences she cares to have and knows that you are it for her would be better than a girl that's still curious about what's out there because believe me, she will be curious.

As a woman, hell no do I want a man that's a virgin. I like a take charge man, that knows what the hell he is doing because I have no patience with that sort of thing.

A woman after my own heart.

Seun I pray our path never cross!!!

tayo-t cool down now!

seun, how u gon coach her if u have no experience either? kai, i feel very sorry for both of you.

Einstein:

Virgins are very wonderful beings to glue to.  I am of the opinion that virgin ladies make better and sexually trustworthy wives than the 'disrupted' ones.

Sex is a flaming fire that never dies down.  Once one ventures into it, he/she is bound to long for more.  A deflowered girl can hardly stop asking for more unless God's does a profound miracle; because of her urge for 'variety' , her husband would suffer much infidelity.  I am not saying virgins are excluded from this misdaemenour, but theirs is reduced.

May I ask if you value male virginity [in yourself, for example] as highly?

jummy79: May I ask if you value male virginity (in yourself, for example) as highly?

Well it appears [I]not[/I] to be valued by most of our ladies. Too bad. Well at least I've learnt something; I guess I should go to the nearest brothel and get myself some experience.

Seun:

Well it appears [I]not[/I] to be valued by most of our ladies.  Too bad.  Well at least I've learnt something; I guess I should go to the nearest brothel and get myself some experience.

Beware of HIV/AIDS! I know you are joking.

I have noticed something on this issue of virginity, premarital sex and all what not.. especially for the ladies, "premarital sex is not ok" but you would want to get with a non-virgin guy?
I do not think we are really decisive on this issue, kind of double minded ....... but then no probs....

Well for me I would love to get married to a non-virgin. The reason is because I was once told that virgins are not experienced people, while non-virgin are well experinced people. So don't you think of that?

Those who told you that are probably out of their own sense.

I will prefer a virgin. A girl who allows any man to take advantage of her is stupid. After geting what they want, they will dump you. They have lost nothing but you harlot*.

* originally wrote 'alot'.

miriam:
A girl who allows any man to take advantage of her is stupid.

Mind you miriam, that is not stupidity!

tayotina:

miriam link=topic=481.msg6604#msg6604 date=1119288121:
A girl who allows any man to take advantage of her is stupid.

Mind you miriam, that is not stupidity!

So what is it if not stupidity?

IAH:

tayotina link=topic=481.msg6611#msg6611 date=1119288987:

[quote author=miriam link=topic=481.msg6604#msg6604 date=1119288121]A girl who allows any man to take advantage of her is stupid.

Mind you miriam, that is not stupidity!

So what is it if not stupidity?
[/quote]
Are you saying 99% of girls are stupid cos that's a reasonable assumed percentage of girls that have been taken advantage of(ex-virgins)?

Not being a virgin doesn't amount to stupidity

mamba:

IAH link=topic=481.msg6630#msg6630 date=1119295260:

[quote author=tayotina link=topic=481.msg6611#msg6611 date=1119288987]
[quote author=miriam link=topic=481.msg6604#msg6604 date=1119288121]A girl who allows any man to take advantage of her is stupid.

Mind you miriam, that is not stupidity!

So what is it if not stupidity?
[/quote]
Are you saying 99% of girls are stupid because that's a reasonable assumed percentage of girls that have been taken advantage of(ex-virgins)?

Not being a virgin doesn't amount to stupidity
[/quote]

Not being a virgin does not amount to stupidity but allowing ANY man to take advantage of you IS stupid. There is a difference between the two. Read Miriam's post again.

I still don't see that as stupidity.

Tayotina, IAH is basically saying that if you fall for the tricks of a player and get used and dumped then he thinks the girl is stupid.

I personally think that the most clever of babes can fall prey to a player becuase when emotions become involved all rational thought goes out of the window!!

Vieira:

I personally think that the most clever of babes can fall prey to a player becuase when emotions become involved all rational thought goes out of the window!!

That's exactly the point. Players are very romantic and handsome. When you fall for them and later on give in to them, that doesn't mean you are stupid. When you are in love, everything about the guy is perfect. The moment love sets in, there is nothing a woman would not do.

So if that is what you mean by someone taking advantage of you, I don't see it as such and I don't see that as stupidity.

If after all our discussions on this thread, and my exhortations all over the forum, a female member of this forum still allows herself to be [I]used for sex[/I], then it will be extremely hard for anybody to convince me that miriam is wrong.

No matter the amount of "love" in your heart, you should be able to say "no" and mean it. Even as a married woman, there wil be men who will meet you and try to sweep you off your feet just to make a conquest, and you'll have to resist their advances regardless of your "feelings" (which may be here today and there tommorrow). So start practicing now!

Seun stop talking like a.... Don't push me ok? I hate reading your posts at times. You better wake up and face reality. When you finally meet your girlfriend, tie your dick to prevent you from fucking ok?

i wonder why some people would saythings like if a girl is taken advantage of then it is stupidity. Like any other thing in life people are attimes taken advantage of

sorry Seun but no disrespect but a girl with sexuall experience is definately more fun than one without any esp if u asa guy aint got much experience. it spices up any relationship, u know even a girl that could suck ur ****. its a mind splitting experince

Seun:

If after all our discussions on this thread, and my exhortations all over the forum, a female member of this forum still allows herself to be [I]used for sex[/I], then it will be extremely hard for anybody to convince me that miriam is wrong.

No matter the amount of "love" in your heart, you should be able to say "no" and mean it. Even as a married woman, there wil be men who will meet you and try to sweep you off your feet just to make a conquest, and you'll have to resist their advances regardless of your "feelings" (which may be here today and there tommorrow). So start practicing now!

Did it ever occur to you that maybe the lady wants it as well?

If the both parties want it and the girl is in love and she believes the guy is as well. then sex is a natural progression from that stage.

If later the it turns out it was an act by the guy, you cannot really fault the girl as I can tell you from experience men can be very patient when hunting the thing they want.

Seduction occurs loads of time and sometimes yes a stupid lady will fall for the most easy of lines but even the hard babes can be duped.

Unless you are willing to stick to the thoery of not doing it till officially married then that is the only safe way really of avoiding it 100%

TayoT I feel you and I know what you mean.

Being holier than thou is easy online and reality is a far cry from that.