Lucifer66:

You're ridiculously ignorant.
Read the post again.

4601CE:

But he provided proofs and evidence to back up his argument .
If you’re against him . Don’t be emotional .
attack him with your facts too.

osazsky:
does this look like a Muslim thread,go to ur Muslim thread and drink urine to cure ur sickness and kill urself cuz their is d promise of virgins pro boys and booty in d after life,before we comment on ur thread we take oath have u taken our oaths,its seun I blame,u have no moral right here pls run to ur thread

ollah2:
Most Christians are too emotional and that has resulted to their dumbness to the highest level.

Muhammed is Muhammed everywhere and Allah is Allah everywhere it's not changed. Muslims till date pray in Arabic
Buddha is Buddha

If you want to recite Yoruba incantations you have to learn Yoruba to properly recite it. Only the Bible was heavily Modified which had lead to many controversies and this thread to be in existence.

Nigerian Christians need to seek the truth, learn unlearn and relearn

Waakanda:
Madness at its peak

Can someone tell this guy there's something called "Arbitrariness of Language". In other words, if a group of people agreed to start referring/calling a stone, "Brubru"... then it stands. With that, the word 'stone' can easily go into oblivion and everyone knows that hard thing as 'blublu'.

To explain this vividly, the word 'stone' means 'okuta' in Yoruba language, 'nkume' in Igbo, and 'dutse' in Hausa. The adoption of such different names is purely based on agreement among the individual ethnic groups.

The word/name "Jesus" can be likened to the above. That's why Yorubas pray with the word "Jesu Kristi" and those with faith in it get results... same with other tribes. Remember, the Bible says "Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven (Matthew 18:19 KJV)".

Therefore, the word "Jesus" may be a product of agreement and I don't have any problem using it for the purpose it's meant for. Freeze lacks the locus standi to denigrate or belittle the name in question because of the forces that gave it the recognition it's enjoying today and forever.

ozoneymcm:

Where are the proofs and evidence

Waakanda:
Madness at its peak

Can someone tell this guy there's something called "Arbitrariness of Language". In other words, if a group of people agreed to start referring/calling a stone, "Brubru"... then it stands. With that, the word 'stone' can easily go into oblivion and everyone knows that hard thing as 'blublu'.

To explain this vividly, the word 'stone' means 'okuta' in Yoruba language, 'nkume' in Igbo, and 'dutse' in Hausa. The adoption of such different names is purely based on agreement among the individual ethnic groups.

The word/name "Jesus" can be likened to the above. That's why Yorubas pray with the word "Jesu Kristi" and those with faith in it get results... same with other tribes. Remember, the Bible says "Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven (Matthew 18:19 KJV)".

Therefore, the word "Jesus" may be a product of agreement and I don't have any problem using it for the purpose it's meant for. Freeze lacks the locus standi to denigrate or belittle the name in question because of the forces that gave it the recognition it's enjoying today and forever.

thorpido:
You're ignorant.
It's more than just a language.It's the power behind the 'Person.'.

Seun:
Daddy Freeze is absolutely right that the original name of Jesus is 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'. The 'controversy' here is about whether or not the translated versions of this name in other languages, such as Ιησούς (Greek), Jesus (English), Jesu(Yoruba), Jizọs(Igbo), Yesu(Hausa), and Isa(Arabic) are as potent against demons, and for causing prayers to be instantly answered, as his original Jewish name, 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'.

One could argue that there is no magic in any of the names: they've all been used against ISIS and Boko Haram and none of them worked.

ollah2:


Quit being stupid like your others. How come it's only your own god that was remixed.


Amahioha is amahioha everywhere
Ifa is ifa everywhere
Sango is Sango everywhere

But no you guys are too stupid to learn

musicwriter:
Freez is perfectly correct. Jesus is an invention!. If you do your research on Christianity you would find out nothing is real about it, you'll be asking yourself how on earth you believed it for so long. Christians have no idea what a big scam Christianity is. I pity anybody who's a Christian.

All I can do here is post you guys some quotes from the book; the greatest deception ever sold- by Rabbi Edward L. Nydle & Levi bar Ido. Both authors are Jewish theologians.

''There is a great deception that has permeated the whole world by the man-made world religion called “Christianity”. This deception claims to be based upon history, Scripture, and the recorded teachings of our Master Yahshua, His disciples, and Rav Shaul. It is the myth of the anti-Torah and anti-Jewish life and teachings of a “Christ” whom they call by a Greek/Latin name- “Jesus”. They believe His purported contention with the Jewish people became a divine judgment upon a “faithless people” that rejected Him and His teachings and killed him because of his religion and opposition to the Torah of Moshe. The believing Christian is convinced that the Jewish Yahshua of history and the “Christ” of the church are one and the same157. They could not be more deceived.''

''Between the time that Yahshua walked the earth and the time his teachings were written down (around the end of the first century C.E) and the third century Yahshua was made into the image of a “Christian”. This meant they molded him into an anti-Torah teacher who was far removed from the teachings of Judaism. He no longer was the Torah observant Jewish rabbi who lived and died as a Jew but a combination of all the pagan mystery religious figures combined into one god-man. The new “church” of Constantine created a false “Christ” called “Jesus” who came to do away with the Law of Moshe and replace the people of Yisrael with a new and better religion that offered salvation to anyone who would only believe in the person called “Jesus”. The audience for the message had changed: it was no longer intended for the Jews but focused upon the pagans- believers on the gods and goddesses like Mithras, Dionysius, Isis, and Demeter- and thus needed a new package flavored with anti-Jewish statements and replacement theology. The Torah of Moshe had been left behind along with the true history of the Jewish Messiah, Yahshua. The distance between reality and fiction created a gap that was now forever unbridgeable. The church has effectively buried the Yahshua of history and substituted their theological myths of the “Christ”, a fictional figure with a streak of anti-Semitism, wholly incompatible with the Messiah of the Jewish apostolic tradition158. There would be no compromise between fact and fiction in what would become “Christian Orthodoxy”. This required a reinterpretation of historical facts and a triumphant victory of the artificial “Jesus” of the Roman church over the true Yahshua of history.''

'' The Christian historians and theologians have robbed Yahshua from Nazareth of his Jewishness and made him into a Christian after their own image. Not only Yahshua, but his family and disciples have been treated as Christians rather than Jews. There is not one verse in the Brit Chadasha that even hints that they were anything other than Orthodox, observant Jews in the most traditional sense of the word. They never called themselves Christians, nor were they ever called Christians. It was the Roman church that invented this deception and is truly the mother of all those who adhere to it. In order that their Replacement theology could be put into place and written into their commentaries, the Jewishness of Yahshua and the disciples had to be stripped from them. Every effort has been made to deny the Jewishness of the Brit Chadasha and its authors. It is very difficult for the average reader of the Brit Chadasha to separate the gold from the dross in the Gospels and the letters of Shaul.''

The person you call Jesus never existed at all!!. Its a complete Roman invention superimposed on an actual Yahshua, but who never walked on water or resurrected from the dead.

Tessyama1:
Controversial OAP and online pastor, Daddy Freeze says 99% of what our Pastors and GOs taught us is false.

According to him, the word 'Jesus' has no meaning and was invented by manipulators. Read his post below...

"

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpmVxtwAQ5t/

https://www.amagitesblog.com/2018/10/it-has-no-meaning-daddy-freeze-codemns-the-name-jesus.html

ollah2:



I wasn't wrong when I said you guys are too emotionally dumb to research. You have been lied to all your lives and it's difficult to admit the truth. You would rather resort to abuses, curses and threats rather than unlearn, relearn and learn.

chisco82:

Honestly sir, you are begining to annoy me with your raps and rhethoricals about christianity. You said you are an atheist, why forcing yourself on issues that has to do with christian faith, why can't you mind your believe for God's sake or are you an agent of the devil sent to decive those of little faith? I don't see you comenting in this manner in any Islam post or thread.
Please stop coming into the christian thread to argue what you don't know. Christian faith is not logic.
Please maybe you and freez should tell us where how the "J" in Judah & Jerusalem comes about.

thorpido:
Senseless idiots who can't make a point without insults.Violence is ingrained in them.
Piss off

ollah2:



I wasn't wrong when I said you guys are too emotionally dumb to research. You have been lied to all your lives and it's difficult to admit the truth. You would rather resort to abuses, curses and threats rather than unlearn, relearn and learn.

Emperor007:
Note:

The discussion is not if The Messiah truly exist, but the meaning of the name Jesus.

Why not leave the correct Hebrew name(s) Yahusha, Yahuah, Yahudah, etc ?

Is like most Bible names where equally deceitfully translated to force people not to glory The Almighty 'Yah' when the names are pronounced.

Example:
Isaiah should correctly be 'YeshaYAHU' meaning (salvation is Yahuah)
Ezekiel should correctly be 'YAHchezqel' meaning (Yahuah is righteous Eloah)
Joel should correctly be 'YAHel' meaning (Yahuah is Eloah)
Daniel should correctly be 'DaniYAHel) meaning (The decison is Yahauh's our Eloah), etc ...

Alezy:
You that have learned, how has ur life changed? Is it much better than others? What do u even know spiritually?
Well, even the devil quoted the Bible for Jesus when he was tempted so I ain't surprised at all. The word of God won't be fulfilled if ppl like u and freeze don't exist.

ollah2:





Don't cry man. I know most of you guys are really vexed thay argh my Jesus is as fake as anything. Sorry bro, sorry : ;DD

maklelemakukula:
ignore seun, he is obviously a hypocrite

thorpido:
You're ignorant.
It's more than just a language.It's the power behind the 'Person.'.

Which is correct anyway,Muhammad,Muhammed or Mohammed?

Seun:
Daddy Freeze is absolutely right that the original name of Jesus is 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'. The 'controversy' here is about whether or not the translated versions of this name in other languages, such as Ιησούς (Greek), Jesus (English), Jesu(Yoruba), Jizọs(Igbo), Yesu(Hausa), and Isa(Arabic) are as potent against demons, and for causing prayers to be instantly answered, as his original Jewish name, 'Yeshua' or 'Joshua'.

One could argue that there is no magic in any of the names: they've all been used against ISIS and Boko Haram and none of them worked.

Reinvented:
This man is confused.

Jesus is the English or Grecian rendition of Yehusha. For example Hebrew Avhraham is our Abraham.

We call him Jesu or Yesu in my dialect.

Whether Jesu, Jesus, Yehushua, Joshua ...
The more important thing is that we know who we are calling and you know what? HE answers when we call.

Waakanda:
Madness at its peak

Can someone tell this guy there's something called "Arbitrariness of Language". In other words, if a group of people agreed to start referring/calling a stone, "Brubru"... then it stands. With that, the word 'stone' can easily go into oblivion and everyone knows that hard thing as 'blublu'.

To explain this vividly, the word 'stone' means 'okuta' in Yoruba language, 'nkume' in Igbo, and 'dutse' in Hausa. The adoption of such different names is purely based on agreement among the individual ethnic groups.

The word/name "Jesus" can be likened to the above. That's why Yorubas pray with the word "Jesu Kristi" and those with faith in it get results... same with other tribes. Remember, the Bible says "Again I say unto you, that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven (Matthew 18:19 KJV)".
,

Therefore, the word "Jesus" may be a product of agreement and I don't have any problem using it for the purpose it's meant for. Freeze lacks the locus standi to denigrate or belittle the name in question because of the forces that gave it the recognition it's enjoying today and forever.