gobuchinny:


Brotherly Satan is not in hell. His on earth. He can't stand hell. Hell is a holding place until the coming of Christ. Then he will be in the lake of fire

He moves to and fro. He goes to hell to receive reports and monitor what is happening on the earth. He also moves on the earth. He is an adversary who walks about.

Aemmyjah:


You too like superstories
I can equally write such stories and make money too
Stories that are contradictory to each other and makes no sense
Imagine touching a flower and it sings hallelujah
Imagine saying that Michael Jackson is doing brake dance in hellfire and that's how the demons work
That millions of people are entering hellfire like a wave and Jesus is weeping bitterly
Worst of all is saying Ben 10 (a cartoon character) is in hellfire
They have seen John Lennon, Michael Jackson, Pope John Paul 2...

If I were not a JW, I'll publish the most sentimental, interesting story of my journey to hellfire and back. I'll make millions too... I just came back from hellfire. Satan has potbelly and is dressed like a clown 🤡
Why not take the books side by side and compare them and see how thoroughly you've been misled

I don't believe every stories of hell. I judge their narration with the word of God. And most of them are indeed true. Your unbelief doesn't change it. After all, you don't even believe the testimonies of Jesus about hell. So, it has programmed your mind not to believe any story about hell. In fact, your second name is unbelief.

Mayntheemaynn:

i didnt talk about the jews affirmation, just show me where jews take sheol and gehenna as hell and lake of fire, also show me the different departments in gehenna, earlier you said they know.

Google it and you will see the interpretation given to it online.

Mayntheemaynn:

so there are people in heaven and hell now?

Sure but hell is much more people.

Ken4Christ:


Sure but hell is much more people.

which christian or jewish denomination says people are in heaven and hell burning?
which verse states so?

earlier you said, jesus said the fire in hell will never cease, but once it is thrown into lake of fire, wont it seize?

Ken4Christ:


Google it and you will see the interpretation given to it online.

i did, and all what you said are FALSE, kindly send links to your own google were jews take sheol and gehenna as hell and lake of fire, also show me the different departments in gehenna, earlier you said they know, so send me links or rabbis talking about on it.

you are basing your life on hell tales you read in a jewish book, there should be thousands of references that the jews themselves use even before jesus parents were born.

Maynthemayn:

i did, and all what you said are FALSE, kindly send links to your own google were jews take sheol and gehenna as hell and lake of fire, also show me the different departments in gehenna, earlier you said they know, so send me links or rabbis talking about on it.

you are basing your life on hell tales you read in a jewish book, there should be thousands of references that the jews themselves use even before jesus parents were born.

Stop emphasizing on affirmation from the Jews. I told you they know what Hades, Sheol and Gehenna means.

Even if we use the scripture to analyze how these terms were used, common sense will tell you they are places of torment. The first two refers to the present hell while the later is the Lake of fire.

Check my thread on the contrast between hell and physical grave, you will understand better.

Ken4Christ:


Stop emphasizing on affirmation from the Jews. I told you they know what Hades, Sheol and Gehenna means.

Even if we use the scripture to analyze how these terms were used, common sense will tell you they are places of torment. The first two refers to the present hell while the later is the Lake of fire.

Check my thread on the contrast between hell and physical grave, you will understand better.

This are Jewish books, are you saying none of. Your tales exist in their books or traditions? No Rabbi or pharisees EVER talks on this, then how did jesus Jewish audience understand it?

Did Zechariah and Elizabeth know that Gehenna is hell?

And again, i didnt talk about the jews affirmation, just show me where jews take sheol and gehenna as hell and lake of fire, also show me the different departments in gehenna, earlier you said they know.

Maybe it's you that don't understand what you are defending lol

Maynthemayn:

which christian or jewish denomination says people are in heaven and hell burning?
which verse states so?

earlier you said, jesus said the fire in hell will never cease, but once it is thrown into lake of fire, wont it seize?

A bigger fire has consumed it but the torment continues.

I also believe that when Jesus said that the fire is never quenched, he was referring to Gehenna (Lake of fire).

Mark 9:43-48
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

The word from which hell is translated here is Gehenna.

Ken4Christ:


A bigger fire has consumed it but the torment continues.

I also believe that when Jesus said that the fire is never quenched, he was referring to Gehenna (Lake of fire).

Mark 9:43-48
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

The word from which hell is translated here is Gehenna.

So lake of fire is no more liquid fire, lake of fire now contains worms?
So are people in hell or lake of fire now?

So where did Jesus talk on hell?
And is it lake of fire that has different department, earlier you said it was hell.

Ken4Christ:



Even if we use the scripture to analyze how these terms were used, common sense will tell you they are places of torment. The first two refers to the present hell while the later is the Lake of fire.

I wish you can just Drop your delusion for a sec and just read on this Jewish concepts, this is a fellow Christian like you explaining it using scriptures and common sense.
https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/hell-a-biblical-staple-the-bible-never-actually-mentions-c28b18b1aaaa

Maynthemayn:

I wish you can just Drop your delusion for a sec and just read on this Jewish concepts, this is a fellow Christian like you explaining it using scriptures and common sense.
https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/hell-a-biblical-staple-the-bible-never-actually-mentions-c28b18b1aaaa

Do you know that there are anti Christ among the Jews. His views doesn't change the truth of the scripture.

Read all the references of hell in the Bible and come back and tell me it's just a physical grave. Only a mad person will reach such conclusion.

Ken4Christ:


Do you know that there are anti Christ among the Jews. His views doesn't change the truth of the scripture.

Read all the references of hell in the Bible and come back and tell me it's just a physical grave. Only a mad person will reach such conclusion.

What does Antichrist got to do with Gehenna, Sheol?
These concept existed before Jesus was born.

And this person is a Christian like you not a Jew, he only used his common sense to find out the meaning of the Jewish concept.

Why not even try to read a LITTLE and add New knowledge, atall at all bro lol
You afraid of doubting of your beliefs?

Maynthemayn:

So lake of fire is no more liquid fire, lake of fire now contains worms?
So are people in hell or lake of fire now?

So where did Jesus talk on hell?
And is it lake of fire that has different department, earlier you said it was hell.

It's hell that has department or different kind of cells.

Why do you think it strange to have worms in liquid fire? Are there not sea animals. These worms are not ordinary worms. They are designed to survive the heat and add to the torment.

The present hell is Hades. And that was the term used when Jesus told the story of the Rich man and Lazarus.

Ken4Christ:



Read all the references of hell in the Bible and come back and tell me it's just a physical grave. Only a mad person will reach such conclusion.

The word "hell" is NEVER mentioned in the bible, read.
https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/hell-a-biblical-staple-the-bible-never-actually-mentions-c28b18b1aaaa


Only a deranged person will be adamant on his ignorance.

Ken4Christ:


It's hell that has department or diffeent kind of cell

So what did Jesus call "hell" to his Jewish audience?

And the Lazarus story, do you think the Pharisees took it literal?

Ken4Christ:


It's hell that has department or different kind of cells.

Why do you think it strange to have worms in liquid fire? Are there not sea animals. These worms are not ordinary worms. They are designed to survive the heat and add to the torment.

The present hell is Hades. And that was the term used when Jesus told the story of the Rich man and Lazarus.

😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣

Ken4Christ:



Why do you think it strange to have worms in liquid fire? Are there not sea animals. These worms are not ordinary worms. They are designed to survive the heat and add to .

Chai, damn religion. When does it stop making sense to you?

Ken4Christ:


A bigger fire has consumed it but the torment continues.

I also believe that when Jesus said that the fire is never quenched, he was referring to Gehenna (Lake of fire).

Mark 9:43-48
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye[color=#990000][/color], than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

The word from which hell is translated here is Gehenna.

So there are people with incomplete body parts in the kingdom of God shey?

Aemmyjah:


So there are people with incomplete body parts in the kingdom of God shey?

Certainly not. It's just a way of expressing the price you must pay in ensuring you enter into God's kingdom. It also explains how terrible hell is. Even if you have to lose one eye to get into God's kingdom, it's far better than going into hell with two eyes. There is not a disabled person in the kingdom of heaven.

The only way it can be applied is when you are faced with persecution to deny your faith and you are threatened that they will remove your eyes unless you deny your faith. A faithful Christian will not comprise even unto death. But even if they remove your eyes before they kill you, you will be whole in the kingdom of heaven.

Maynthemayn:

Chai, damn religion. When does it stop making sense to you?

Most things of God doesn't make sense but they are true.

Does it make sense for Jesus to send Peter to go catch fish and get money out of the mouth of the fish?

Does it make sense to walk on water. Jesus walked on water.

Does it make sense for a wine to be demanded in an occasion and Jesus asked them to fill water pots with water that was turned into wine.

This is why the scripture says that the preaching of the gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing.

Ken4Christ:


Most things of God doesn't make sense but they are true.

Does it make sense for Jesus to send Peter to go catch fish and get money out of the mouth of the fish?

Does it make sense to walk on water. Jesus walked on water.

Does it make sense for a wine to be demanded in an occasion and Jesus asked them to fill water pots with water that was turned into wine.

This is why the scripture says that the preaching of the gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing.

they are only found in the books you are basing your life on and wasting your life away while alive. you only have this life, enjoy it.

in quran, mohammed also sliced the moon into 2, inside the quran just like your jesus was walking on water inside the new testament.
religion turns you into an idiot.

Maynthemayn:

So what did Jesus call "hell" to his Jewish audience?

And the Lazarus story, do you think the Pharisees took it literal?

Not every Jews believed Jesus. So, not every Jews believed his messages. Even some of his disciples left him when he began to talk about eating his flesh and drinking his blood.

Even when he rose from the dead, Thomas didn't believe until he saw him.

So, you don't have to wait to hear the affirmation of the Jews before you believe God's word that is clearly written.

Ken4Christ:


Not every Jews believed Jesus. So, not every Jews believed his messages. Even some of his disciples left him when he began to talk about eating his flesh and drinking his blood.

Even when he rose from the dead, Thomas didn't believe until he saw him.

So, you don't have to wait to hear the affirmation of the Jews before you believe God's word that is clearly written.

there were jews before jesus parent was born.

answer

So what did Jesus call "hell" to his Jewish audience?

And the Lazarus story, do you think the Pharisees took 'hades' literal?
send references where jews take hell as hades, or was it jesus that created the concept in 1st century?

Maynthemayn:

What does Antichrist got to do with Gehenna, Sheol?
These concept existed before Jesus was born.

And this person is a Christian like you not a Jew, he only used his common sense to find out the meaning of the Jewish concept.

Why not even try to read a LITTLE and add New knowledge, atall at all bro lol
You afraid of doubting of your beliefs?

Please, send excerpt of his quotes. I don't have time to click on links.

Ken4Christ:


Please, send excerpt of his quotes. I don't have time to click on links.

you dont have to click on the link, your ignorance remains only with you.

Maynthemayn:

there were jews before jesus parent was born.

answer

So what did Jesus call "hell" to his Jewish audience?

And the Lazarus story, do you think the Pharisees took 'hades' literal?
send references where jews take hell as hades, or was it jesus that created the concept in 1st century?

You are going round in circles. Most Jews in his days didn't believe Jesus. If they did, they would not have killed him. So, their opinions on Jesus teachings doesn't matter.

Ken4Christ:


You are going round in circles. Most Jews in his days didn't believe Jesus. If they did, they would not have killed him. So, their opinions on Jesus teachings doesn't matter.

you lack comprehension.

there were jews before jesus parent was born.

so answer

So what did Jesus call "hell" to his Jewish audience?

And the Lazarus story, do you think the Pharisees took 'hades' literal?
send references where jews before [b]jesus parent[/b]was born, take hell as hades, or was it jesus that created the concept in 1st century?


earlier you said they know, that means they are also prepping for heaven and hades, so send me ONE reference.

Ken4Christ:


If they did, they would not have killed him. So, their opinions on Jesus teachings doesn't matter.

You lied, most of jesus followers were jews. it was not jewish people that killed him, mark 8;31 tells you who killed him for blasphemy.

Maynthemayn:

they are only found in the books you are basing your life on and wasting your life away while alive. you only have this life, enjoy it.

in quran, mohammed also sliced the moon into 2, inside the quran just like your jesus was walking on water inside the new testament.
religion turns you into an idiot.

The gospels are historical facts. What they wrote happened. This is why there are four witnesses, Matthew, Mark Luke and John. And they all wrote their independent account.

And there is no existing contrary literature work of those who lived in the days of Jesus. The works were published when some of them were still alive. No one till date disproved it. Not even the well organized and sophisticated Roman government.

Ken4Christ:


The gospels are historical facts. What they wrote happened. This is why there are four witnesses, Matthew, Mark Luke and John. And they all wrote their independent account.

And there is no existing contrary literature work of those who lived in the days of Jesus. The works were published when some of them were still alive. No one till date disproved it. Not even the well organized and sophisticated Roman government.

Religion thrives on Ignorance lol

Maynthemayn:

You lied, most of jesus followers were jews. it was not jewish people that killed him, mark 8;31 tells you who killed him for blasphemy.

Matthew 26:3-4
3 Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,

4 And consulted that they might take Jesus by subtilty, and kill him.