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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 9:55pm On Nov 18, 2018
TonyeBarcanista:
God is a MALE but not a man (human).
Man was made in the IMAGE and LIKENESSES of God.
scripture and verse
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by babyfaceafrica: 10:16pm On Nov 18, 2018
not interested
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 10:20pm On Nov 18, 2018
gist2000:
Computergeek,
You said it just as it should be.
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by TonyeBarcanista(m): 10:23pm On Nov 18, 2018
funmisticqueen:
scripture and verse

Gen 1:26–28
And God said: 'Let us make man in our image, after our likenesss; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.' And God created man in His image, in the image of God He created him, male and female created He them. And God blessed them; and God said to them: 'Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that creepeth upon the earth.'

Gen 5:1–3
This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made He him. Male and female created He them, and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. And Adam lived a hundred and thirty years, and begot a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth.

Gen 9:6
One who spills the blood of man, through/by man, his blood will be spilled, for in God's image He made man.
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Ishilove: 10:48pm On Nov 18, 2018
computergeek:


Ishilove is now starting to write like NwaAmaikpe small small grin
Hell nah cheesy
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by samysmoothfresh: 11:02pm On Nov 18, 2018
Ishilove:

Thanks dear. I don't dabble into the Nigerian brand of feminism which is essentially man-hating rabble rousing, championed by broken individuals with psychological challenges.


these words clearly describe that highqueen and funmisticqueen especially the bold words in red ink

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by pocohantas(f): 12:06am On Nov 19, 2018
About the career issue, I believe a mother should know her scope. That you have kids doesn't mean you shouldn't work, no, but you should know your kids need you more than they need their dad. This is a very fickle point, but I just believe that a woman can be ambitious, but with certain limitations.

I agree with everything you penned down, but this doesn't cut it for me. I believe kids need both parents and if it has to be one, I don't think a mum is automatically the most perfect person for the job. Maybe because I grew with a supportive dad, who I am very happy didn't have this mindset. I am also happy he didn't leave it all to my mum, very happy actually.

I don't know limitations either, don't tell me to be ambitious, but not too much. Makes me think the person is confused or something...

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 7:47am On Nov 19, 2018
pocohantas:


I agree with everything you penned down, but this doesn't cut it for me. I believe kids need both parents and if it has to be one, I don't think a mum is automatically the most perfect person for the job. Maybe because I grew with a supportive dad, who I am very happy didn't have this mindset. I am also very happy he didn't leave it all to my mum, very happy actually.

I don't know limitations either, don't tell me to be ambitious, but not too much. Makes me think the person is confused or something...
Your points are strong and valid.
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 8:33am On Nov 19, 2018
Ishilove:

Thanks dear. I don't dabble into the Nigerian brand of feminism which is essentially man-hating rabble rousing, championed by broken individuals with psychological challenges.

You just described pocohantas.

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Ayobami7(m): 11:37am On Nov 19, 2018
This is my Comment
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 11:01pm On Nov 19, 2018
(the following pure bliss is just for a little compare and contrast (shrugs)...tell me dear readers, which post would you teach the girl you love, I don’t mean your sparring partner (girlfriend or wife), but the one you want the best for, always- your daughter, niece, sister, cousin?)

(By a Nairalander, MissWrite)
Everyone now seems to have an opinion about feminism. It seems fashionable to talk about it. It doesn’t even matter if you know anything about it or not. I want to join the fray, not necessarily to start any arguments, but hopefully to answer some questions. So y’all please indulge me. Fair warning, this is long. And it’s only the first part which deliberates on emancipation. I’ll save my thoughts on equality for another day.

If I don’t speak with reference to recent history, or in the easily recognizable jargon of the trade; and if I don’t acknowledge the relevance of founders and key players – feminist icons like The Suffragettes, Simone de Beauvoir and Gloria Steinem – it’s not out of ignorance or a lack of respect, but because I consider feminism to be contextual and organic in nature. It grows out of the ground on which we stand, and doesn't necessarily require a precursor to exist in any given place, (even if a precursor can be a catalyst). It is reactionary just like any other movement that resists oppression. And the oppression which it resists is the deliberate disenfranchisement of women (by constitution, common law or culture) on account of their gender alone. Feminism seeks to give acknowledgement to the full human value of women, by permitting the uninhibited expression of their content (intellect & desires) within unbiased limits of the law, and to validate a woman’s right to an independent social standing. The premise of feminism is that all human beings are equally human and should be allowed equal human rights. This does not mean that all human beings are equal. In fact, our inequalities as human beings go far beyond gender. There's race, height, weight, complexion, IQ, the list is practically endless. But we don't (and shouldn’t)apportion rights to people by considering any of these differences; even when certain physical attributes can have significant ramifications on a person’s performance and ability to contribute as a citizen of the world. In the end, what matters is that we are all human beings, and equal in our humanness. And as human beings, we should have human rights. Not men's rights and women's rights. Not black people’s rights and white people’s rights. Not tall people’s rights and short people’s rights. Not strong people’s rights and weak people’s rights. That's really all there is to the mantra of equal rights and gender equality which feminism disseminates.

I don’t believe that, as a feminist, I ought to belong to a world club, subscribing to a definitive code of practice; that feminism must be copied ‘correctly’ or even copied at all, from anywhere. I believe that the prevailing conditions of a place are enough to inspire a reaction if it is warranted; and that the prevailing conditions would uniquely shape that reaction to suit the specificity of the stimulus. It’s the wearer of the shoe that knows exactly where it pinches and would adjust his toes accordingly. Unifying feminism, under one large umbrella of a particular creed, would only breed confusion and it would not solve any of the problems which necessitated its inception in the first place; because every region deals with very unique issues of misogyny which feminism seeks to address. And these issues of misogyny are dynamic and so feminist reactions must be equally dynamic. Standardized feminism would be akin to creating a new world religion that would only enslave people to a specific dogma instead of emancipating them. Feminism isn't a religion or a political party, it is a natural instinct to survive and thrive in one's own environment. Therefore, to be a feminist as a woman, I only need to value my own integrity as a human being. And to be a feminist as a man, I would have to have equal regard for others as I do for myself.

Most men think that feminism is redundant in Nigeria (but if that were the case it wouldn’t even be discussed or find the legs to stand on); they say that women have nothing to complain about anymore since they already drive cars, vote, own property, run for office and don’t walk around under a sheet in the scorching heat. But can they really know? I don’t suppose I could (or would) tell someone else how to feel about things when I am not the one directly immersed in the situation. It would be arrogant and insensitive of me to do that. Men, no matter how powerful their sense of imagination, would never know what it’s like to be a woman in Nigeria until they spend some time in a woman’s skin. I imagine that they would be in for a surprise because I don't believe that their ignorance about the endemic misogyny of our society is willful. I don't believe that they are malicious in their intent when they ask women to shut their mouths about feminism. I believe that they just don’t know. Not really. So, I imagine that it would surprise them to wake up one morning to find themselves relegated to a position where they would be required to shrink their egos, and step into miniature boxes that only allowed them to be tightly censored versions of themselves; and where their respect and visibility depended on another human being.

We don’t just fight legislations (God knows those battles are easier to win), we fight an endemic social bias. That is where the misogyny of our culture lies. We are a society that legally permits the participation of women in public affairs, but we are also largely a society that doesn’t believe a woman can excel on the merit of her own intellect. A woman in a position of esteem is viewed suspiciously like a floating object – a magic trick. It deserves a closer look because, surely, that object must be balancing on structural support (Which essentially is a man). And that’s why no one is impressed enough, by that floating object, to give it the respect it deserves. People tend to invent imaginative background stories: if her husband or father is not connected enough to get her into that position, she must be fucking someone who is. And sometimes, for a woman, it’s more respectable to have visible structure than to allow people to speculate on her sexual activities. It is ultimately demeaning. This type of mindset cannot simply be eradicated by making laws; we can only wait for it to fade with time and exposure to a new way of living. But in the time before that happens, women are justified to be indignant.

We still consider female participation in public office an indulgence. One position is a chance given (not to Mrs Okeke alone) but to all women to prove themselves worthy of holding such positions. One man fails himself; but a woman fails for all women. And that is why names like Patricia Etteh, Stella Oduah, Allison Madueke and Maryam Sanda stand out as caveats; reasons cited to stifle the emancipation and the advancement of women. It doesn’t matter that for every corrupt woman politician there are easily ten corrupt male politicians. Or that Maryam Sanda stands in the company of men whose names we never even bothered to learn: Edwin Vincent, Sakiru Bello, James Uguru, Dominic Iyayi Ogar, Okon Ubem and Omolaja Shodipo – all perpetrators of heinous crimes, with victims equally real and deserving of the justice that Bilyaminu Bello deserves. It is clear that the popularity of this particular story in the news is due to the social caliber of the individual involved, but that hasn’t stopped people from making this an anti-feminist campaign (even here on Nairaland) – beware the revolution of the feminazi. This is an unwarranted generalization and it greatly undermines the relevance of feminism in our society. I would even go so far as to say that women are being bullied from all directions.

But the misogyny of our culture cannot be overlooked so easily.

In Africa, female disenfranchisement begins at birth. All too often, a woman’s place in her husband’s home is only secure after she provides him with a male child, someone to ‘carry on his name’. Because women are not qualified to keep a name, they are branded by their fathers or husbands, and that in itself speaks to the objectification and ownership of women (a practice that culminates in the exchange of a bride price upon the head of a woman). If, however, a woman has daughters (it doesn’t matter how many), she never balance well for chair be dat. She continuously gets harassed by impatient or worried family members, who would even go as far as finding a substitute wife for her husband – a woman who has ‘boys in her womb’. People conveniently forget science, and blame the woman for the sex selection of the child. So the point is that, boys are considered to be more valuable than girls, right of the bat, in African culture. And this notion often translates into the over-pampering of boys. We indulge them, massage their egos and fill them with a sense of entitlement. And girls are groomed to make ‘acceptable’ sidekicks. We teach them that a woman can only be complete as long as she is tethered to a man – any man.

So, even when we send girls to school and teach them to achieve personal goals, they must also transition successfully from their fathers’ houses to their husbands’ houses, or become social outcasts. We stigmatize women who fall between these two stools. If, for instance, Chimamanda Adichie does something praiseworthy, we first have to examine if her achievements are valid by asking ourselves if she has dutifully submitted herself to a husband in marriage before we can clap our hands for her. But Rita Dominic, Genevieve and Linda Ikeji, who are unmarried, are somehow still languishing in limbo awaiting society’s approval; still incomplete and un-established in spite of their giant strides in their chosen industry. And this type of social discrimination seems to be more important than ever these days, since women are becoming increasingly independent. Back in the day, a girl would marry, naïve and incapable, at sixteen; and all she could do was depend on a husband for her sustenance, and everything, including her raison d'etre; she would accept a life of total submission to him with gratitude and never challenge the boundaries of the small sphere of her existence. But now, when women have access to the tools to survive independently - education and life skills, when they have begun to have ambitions for themselves beyond the home, marriage ceases to be a necessity for financial security, and instead becomes a matter of personal choice. But still, society does not trust that enough women would chose to be married for the pure joys of companionship and procreation, so it stigmatizes single women and, thus, propagates marriage as a stamp of social approval.

A man can be whatever he wants, but a woman must fit in within the boundaries of a man’s expectations. Because she is the one who needs him to ratify her standing in social context. That’s the crux of the imbalance of social power. He can therefore dictate the margins of her existence and she must decide if she would rather be suppressed or ostracized. Case in point: the clamor for feminist ideals; some women would rather not be associated with feminism at all for the simple fact that it makes them less attractive to men and endangers them to singlehood. Some men even threaten feminists that they won't be rewarded with husbands if they didn't abandon their foolish cause. And women are aware that they risk being ostracized by embracing feminism, but the light at the end of the tunnel is that we would all get to that point where women are no longer validated by men in society. A point where women can make independent choices for themselves and not worry about how ‘sellable’ or attractive it makes them to men, as though women were derivative human beings.

Fitting in with men’s expectations has caused some women, over time, to bend in unnatural ways. Women are held to higher moral standards than men, not because they are naturally more virtuous, or biologically more capable, but because men are in the position to impose those standards that women have to conform to (if they wanted to be taken off the shelf). Female virginity, for instance, is still a requirement amongst many African men, while male virginity isn’t even a thing anymore. In an effort to present themselves as required, pure and sacred on a platter of divine offering, girls conceal and suppress ugly histories of sexual abuse, or even just a healthy appetite for sex (a God-given libido). Girls are shamed for their sexuality and even mutilated to control it, until her only reason for engaging in sex is to help achieve the male orgasm. A derivative human being. And although the cutting of the clitoris has been widely abolished in Nigeria, the fundamentals remain: that women ought to be sexually coy and repressed. If it isn’t being achieved with a razor blade, it’s being done by slut-shaming girls who explore their sexuality.

And girls, who are abused every so often, do not speak up for fear that the whole community would become privy to their ‘defilement’. And that would diminish their worth to a man, which is ultimately the worth of a woman in general in the African context. And if girls are discouraged from speaking up about these acts of violence, they only enable the perpetrators and encourage the cycle of abuse. Again, a girl must decide whether she would rather be suppressed or ostracized. And a lot of times, a mother makes that decision for her daughter who is not even ten years old. She chooses what she considers to be the easier path: to swallow your demons and fit in with society. It is true that boys are often victims of abuse as well, but they are not the ones tossed aside like rotten food over it. They are not the ones that have to deal with the conflict of needing to portray outward virtue when the knowledge of internal corruption plagues the mind.

The dictates of men go even further: a woman must like to cook and do domestic work, must not talk back to a man, must not be smarter than a man, does not need as much money as a man, must fit into specific standards of beauty, and with every requirement, they set limitations, amputating parts of a person designed by the same God, in order to create a new and entirely different being: A man’s woman. The danger of this approach is that the pressure of subjugation is external and does not conform to the internal desires of the person. And ultimately, tension is created. It’s battle of man versus God. Or, to avoid confusion, since people only see God from a variety of highly subjective perspectives, I should say: Man versus Nature. When women no longer require to be validated by anything other than their own integrity; when they are autonomous and self-determining in society, then they can dare to break out of the tiny boxes which men have determined for them for so long. They would no longer be compelled to fit in with a woman's definition according to a man. Of which most elements stem from wishful thinking rather than a keen observation of her true nature. And instead, women would be free to define themselves for themselves and accept only the limits that their nature (and not legislation or culture) imposes upon them. They can be products of their own desires.


Many men fear that if women were allowed to be products of their own desires, they would depict the image of ‘girls gone wild’. And that is probably because pro-feminist icons like Madonna have expressed such total lack of restraint in public to sell their brand. But they only feel the need to be so provocative about making the statement “I own myself, I can be myself, and Bleep you” because people still largely doubt that this is true. But feminism is not really about exhibiting a lack of decorum, it is about asserting one’s self; and the manner in which a person chooses to do so is a reflection of their personal morality. A person can be immoral as a feminist or non-feminist; it’s ridiculous to qualify the demand for female social emancipation immoral simply because some feminists are baring their privates on stage. A woman’s desires would still lead many women into traditional family lives, and this is not an un-feminist position at all. And if you’re asking what the hassle is about, imagine you were sitting in a room with the door locked and the key thrown away. And now imagine you were sitting in that same room with the door standing wide open. Choice, even if it is just an illusion, makes some positions more acceptable (attractive even) to one’s mind. It relieves pressure and gives us room to breathe.

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 11:16pm On Nov 19, 2018
By the way, I do not attach any label to myself (I like to just be me), but, the self effacement and ?self-hating tone in the OP got me soo worried that I had to provide the above
Kinda like, bringing 24 hour 5hpAC supply to a room in Borno State in May! Yes, the two posts are contrasts like that)

My point is, what inspired you to write yourself and gender off the face of the earth and beyond with that post dear poster? Who are you trying to impress? Please do not say God lipsrsealed

This is my roundabout way of saying how much I disliked your post! I will ignore the inconsequential bits like kings and etc. They do not matter in the grand scheme of things (which is, how your post erases your personhood for the most part)
Thank you

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobodys(f): 11:29pm On Nov 19, 2018
Ishilove:

Thanks dear. I don't dabble into the Nigerian brand of feminism which is essentially man-hating rabble rousing, championed by broken individuals with psychological challenges.
Don't mean to butt in, buh I have got this quick question.....

Are you a true feminist?.
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 11:30pm On Nov 19, 2018
computergeek:
Hmmm.... The modern-day feminists are waking up in anger and in full force grin grin


I am not a feminist but I am really worried about you! Not angry, not forceful, just chilled by your submissions
Chilled to the bone and not in a good way!
Cheers

(I will cling to that your bit about Ariana Grande and convince myself you are way less than 21! That way I can tell myself, “oh it’s a post of a growing child” I won’t click on your profile to read your posts. The first reason is because I am too lazy to, but the second (main) reason is because I am scared of seeing more posts that would make me lose hope in you, and make you one of my least favourite NLers)
I am sorry for the way I “sound”, but that’s how I feel embarassed
Cheers
(unfollows thread)

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 11:30pm On Nov 19, 2018
merahki:
By the way, I do not attach any label to myself (I like to just be me), but, the self effacement and ?self-hating tone in the OP got me soo worried that I had to provide the above
Kinda like, bringing 24 hour 5hpAC supply to a room in Borno State in May! Yes, the two posts are contrasts like that)

My point is, what inspired you to write yourself and gender off the face of the earth and beyond with that post dear poster? Who are you trying to impress? Please do not say God lipsrsealed

This is my roundabout way of saying how much I disliked your post! I will ignore the inconsequential bits like kings and etc. They do not matter in the grand scheme of things (which is, how your post erases your personhood for the most part)
Thank you
I cringe when I see people who lack the simple ability to comprehend trying to come as intelligent.

No offence, but you are really very dumb, sorry to say.

The post up there is defining what feminism is not, not what it is. The post up there, which it's either you didn't read it or you couldn't understand it, is simply saying that modern-day feminism is not what feminism should truly be. Correcting the wrong ideas women have of feminism, simple.

Get a brain, and use it. Thank you.

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 11:32pm On Nov 19, 2018
merahki:



I am not a feminist but I am really worried about you! Not angry, not forceful, just chilled by your submissions
Chilled to the bone and not in a good way!
Cheers

(I will cling to that your bit about Ariana Grande and convince myself you are way less than 21! That way I can tell myself, “oh it’s a post of a growing child” I won’t click on your profile to read your posts. The first reason is because I am too lazy to, but the second (main) reason is because I am scared of seeing more posts that would make me lose hope in you, and make you one of my least favourite NLers)
I am sorry for the way I “sound”, but that’s how I feel embarassed
Cheers
(unfollows thread)
You have psychopathic tendencies. A severe personality disorder that I certainly don't know what to call it. Anyways, after two years on NL, I should get used to lunatics and their mad mentions.

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 11:38pm On Nov 19, 2018
merahki:



I am not a feminist but I am really worried about you! Not angry, not forceful, just chilled by your submissions
Chilled to the bone and not in a good way!
Cheers

(I will cling to that your bit about Ariana Grande and convince myself you are way less than 21! That way I can tell myself, “oh it’s a post of a growing child” I won’t click on your profile to read your posts. The first reason is because I am too lazy to, but the second (main) reason is because I am scared of seeing more posts that would make me lose hope in you, and make you one of my least favourite NLers)
I am sorry for the way I “sound”, but that’s how I feel embarassed
Cheers
(unfollows thread)
Hmmm. You dey get mental probelm oooo.Which Kain nonsense comment laa? You no even understand wetin the OP dey try talk. Olodo
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 11:52pm On Nov 19, 2018
merahki:



I am not a feminist but I am really worried about you! Not angry, not forceful, just chilled by your submissions
Chilled to the bone and not in a good way!
Cheers

(I will cling to that your bit about Ariana Grande and convince myself you are way less than 21! That way I can tell myself, “oh it’s a post of a growing child” I won’t click on your profile to read your posts. The first reason is because I am too lazy to, but the second (main) reason is because I am scared of seeing more posts that would make me lose hope in you, and make you one of my least favourite NLers)
I am sorry for the way I “sound”, but that’s how I feel embarassed
Cheers
(unfollows thread)
I didn't even read this crap well. O my What! Did you actually type 'chilled by your submissions'? You really don't know how to read and understand what a post is actually talking about, and you started ranting up and down, disgracing yourself for the entire NL to see. Shame.
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Xavier5(m): 12:30am On Nov 20, 2018
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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Ishilove: 12:43am On Nov 20, 2018
Nobodys:
Don't mean to butt in, buh I have got this quick question.....

Are you a true feminist?.
Define 'true feminism'
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 7:44am On Nov 20, 2018
Xavier5:


GBAM, sweetheart ( I hope say oga no dey Nairaland oh), you just said it all. Feminism, True feminism is the illumination of the society, it's a movement meant to liberate women from societal and sexiscal bondages. The Bible supports it, GOD supports it (I'm gonna create a thread soon to explain how the Bible and GOD supports True Feminism)

True Feminism in a lay man's language is a "movement that supports the treatment of women with fairness, respect, equality, equity, honour, dignity and non discriminatory not treating them (women) as sub beings or inferior being or second class beings." and not the other form of feminism which I call FALSE FEMINISM, that the False Feminist has so toned and painted black. They brought Feminism into their confusion as confused bunch of ladies that they are. This False Feminist have reduced Feminism to a misandry and male dominating movement.

I'm a feminist, a true feminist and oh yes, I'm a male and a Christian. I support, promote and stand for the idea, concept and aim of True Feminism which is the liberation of women from societal and sexistical bondage.

What we actually needs is enlightenment and doctrination of what Feminism, true feminism is all about. With this done, people can actually differentiate between True Feminism and False Feminism. They will also forward their support for True Feminism while False Feminism will be sent into the abyss.

Once again, nice write up.

#Xavier.
Thanks Xavier. I do hope educated Illiterates like that merahki will come and read your comment and see what it is to be able to comprehend a post.

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobodys(f): 12:07pm On Nov 20, 2018
Ishilove:

Define 'true feminism'
The advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes......
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by MissRaine69(f): 12:16pm On Nov 20, 2018
Ladyhippolyta88:
Modern day feminism is a part of feminism it is a part of the fourth wave.
It means different things to different people.
The discuss changes as time changes.
God could be a woman some people believe God to be gender less.
Every movement cannot have the same blueprint that applies to everyone.
So let them be.
People are too fixated on detail to look at things from an astute perspective Ladyhippolyta88.
The view is feminism is bad and that’s just a dogmatic way of looking at things.

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Ranchhoddas: 12:46pm On Nov 20, 2018
computergeek:
You have psychopathic tendencies. A severe personality disorder that I certainly don't know what to call it. Anyways, after two years on NL, I should get used to lunatics and their mad mentions.
Haba!

That woman wey you dey yab like this na your aunty o. (In more ways than one)

I think there she misunderstood you and you in turn misunderstood her.

But I think I get both of you. Una go dey alright las las!
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Ranchhoddas: 12:49pm On Nov 20, 2018
Nobodys:
The advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes......

You make it sound so benign. I would be a feminist if this was what feminism really is.
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Ishilove: 12:55pm On Nov 20, 2018
Nobodys:
The advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes......

Put that way, I guess I am
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by marvin906(m): 1:08pm On Nov 20, 2018
Nairaland feminist that are suffering from menopause that you want to educate.. goodluck

Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 1:43pm On Nov 20, 2018
Ranchhoddas:
Haba!

That woman wey you dey yab like this na your aunty o. (In more ways than one)

I think there she misunderstood you and you in turn misunderstood her.

But I think I get both of you. Una go dey alright las las!
You are funny. This is a faceless forum, and you don't have any idea how old I am, whether I am married, or how many kids I have. I in turn could agree that you are a 17-year-old boy.

Read her comments and tell me if a matured woman would speak in such a derogatory, demeaning manner.
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Gorgeous1guy(m): 2:10pm On Nov 20, 2018
Gender equality (to me) will remain a mirage. These ladies who are in continuous competition with menfolk will always fail and be disappointed. The truth is that every right thinking man knows that the place of a woman is special and irreplaceable.... just because a lady had an unpleasant life experience with a man does not make all men bad... don't believe it but....there are still very many good men who thinks right and appreciate their ladies.

No gender is super.... each has theirs strength(s) and weakness(es). Though men are often the ones to be d head (as being the breadwinner) but without a right thinking and supportive woman, man will fail.

In summary, let every gender appreciate one another and help to build each other. Anyone in abuse relationships should find help or get out of it without assuming that whatever bitter experience you hav passed through is as a result of the other gender's superiority complex. Women are special and created specially for the unity of a family. A bitter woman will never get anywhere. There are very many accomplished women who hav attained notable positions in life yet, still submissive to their husbands who in turn gives absolute and total support to their career and life in general.

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by MissRaine69(f): 2:26pm On Nov 20, 2018
The confabulation and misrepresentation of a still very valid and relevant movement. This is what is happening.

The issue is cherry picking what suits. This is what causes the constant clashes. There is nothing that stops a woman from maintaining her heritage and culture and yet be an independent feminist. It is not about pretending that you have a dick, you don’t. Women flaunt abrieged versions of feminism. Was Benazir Bhutto not the prime minister of a country that has very extreme views of women? She was a feminist but she certainly did not stop being Pakistani nor did she want fo rewrite her culture Banazir had her daughter while in office, earned more than her husband yet she never stopped being who she was. And there lies the root of the problem. Some take feminisim to mean you stop being African.

Every culture/society in the world has had to overcome marginalising women. It was in 1918 women were allowed to vote but that was not all women.
You had to be over 30, married, had land and have an income. That excluded many It took nearly 25 years to marginally change that to include most women. It’s taken centuries for the Western world to treat women fairly it’s not going to happen overnight on this continent. Especially with all this remixing of feminism.

Feminism is not about trying to be a man or replacing him. If your father splits his wealth equally amongst all his children male and female that is feminism.
If parents send both their children to school and not favour the Male child that is feminism.
If you get promoted at work based on merit and your experience that is feminism.
Feminism is being treated the same, awarded the same opportunity and not being written of because you female.

Feminism has nothing to do with who washes the dishes, who does the laundry who earns what and by how much. It’s not about morals and religion. Not all cultures are proud to have a daughter. Many still abort female foetuses once they know they are carrying a daughter. That is is what feminism is trying to address, a daughter’s life has the same worth as a son.
I have been asked many times if I could guarantee a son! I think of my parents if they had that mindset, I would not exist.

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Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Ranchhoddas: 2:38pm On Nov 20, 2018
computergeek:
You are funny. This is a faceless forum, and you don't have any idea how old I am, whether I am married, or how many kids I have. I in turn could agree that you are a 17-year-old boy.

Read her comments and tell me if a matured woman would speak in such a derogatory, demeaning manner.
I agree there was a little condescension in the post.
@first paragraph

Do tell.
Re: Warning! Don't Mistake Modern-day Feminism For True Feminism (A Must-Read). by Nobody: 2:56pm On Nov 20, 2018
MissRaine69:
The confabulation and misrepresentation of a still very valid and relevant movement. This is what is happening.

The issue is cherry picking what suits. This is what causes the constant clashes. There is nothing that stops a woman from maintaining her heritage and culture and yet be an independent feminist. It is not about pretending that you have a dick, you don’t. Women flaunt abrieged versions of feminism. Was Benazir Bhutto not the prime minister of a country that has very extreme views of women? She was a feminist but she certainly did not stop being Pakistani nor did she want fo rewrite her culture Banazir had her daughter while in office, earned more than her husband yet she never stopped being who she was. And there lies the root of the problem. Some take feminisim to mean you stop being African.

Every culture/society in the world has had to overcome marginalising women. It was in 1918 women were allowed to vote but that was not all women.
You had to be over 30, married, had land and have an income. That excluded many It took nearly 25 years to marginally change that to include most women. It’s taken centuries for the Western world to treat women fairly it’s not going to happen overnight on this continent. Especially with all this remixing of feminism.

Feminism is not about trying to be a man or replacing him. If your father splits his wealth equally amongst all his children male and female that is feminism.
If parents send both their children to school and not favour the Male child that is feminism.
If you get promoted at work based on merit and your experience that is feminism.
Feminism is being treated the same, awarded the same opportunity and not being written of because you female.

Feminism has nothing to do with who washes the dishes, who does the laundry who earns what and by how much. It’s not about morals and religion. Not all cultures are proud to have a daughter. Many still abort female foetuses once they know they are carrying a daughter. That is is what feminism is trying to address, a daughter’s life has the same worth as a son.
I have been asked many times if I could guarantee a son! I think of my parents if they had that mindset, I would not exist.
Your points are very strong and valid. Ride on!

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