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plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by vooks: 8:29pm On Dec 05, 2015 |
Good evening Amateur Septic(sic) it's so obvious that I really hate saying it. It's also so obvious that Hawking, Dawkin and EVERYBODY talks about it. Sadly, most downplay this for reasons known best to themselves. Specifically, I want to pick your brains on Multiverse Theory 1. What are your views on this relatively new attempt at explaining away fine-tuning? 2. Do you have alternative spins? You can start here if multiverse is a vocabulary http://discovermagazine.com/2008/dec/10-sciences-alternative-to-an-intelligent-creator |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by davien(m): 4:20am On Dec 06, 2015 |
Funny how the criteria for determining intelligently designed systems is not given but largely ignored as the assumption itself is all that is needed... 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by vooks: 4:38am On Dec 06, 2015 |
davien:I have seen your moniker peeping about, it's good to know you have discovered your voice after an extended leave. Hoping you are well my broda. I just wrote this on a sandy beach. Supposing you came across it and you never saw me writing it, what criteria would you use to conclude it was intelligence behind it and not some random waves? 4 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by jayriginal: 5:46am On Dec 06, 2015 |
“This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.” Douglas Adams 6 Likes |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by vooks: 6:33am On Dec 06, 2015 |
jayriginal: Like I said, downplaying it is essentially diversionary. The analogy has long been dismantled. Check Refuting the Puddle Analogy [url==http://answersforhope.org/destroying-the-puddle-analogy/]Source[/url] 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by malvisguy212: 10:19am On Dec 06, 2015 |
vooks:they probably will say "it a luck" or the law of nature wrote it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by vooks: 10:53am On Dec 06, 2015 |
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Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by Nobody: 12:03pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Truly, a little knowledge is a bad thing. |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by Judas2013: 12:11pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vooks: 1 Like
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Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by vooks: 12:27pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Judas2013:Fool,you are not creative 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by Mickey7(m): 1:31pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vooks:www.nairaland.com/attachments/3159011_img20151119170755_jpeg4e9245b9bd1a515f82185944c57775ca 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:53pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Mickey7: And you tagged along his foolishness without refuting the post 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by vooks: 1:55pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
SirWere:Yessir And silence makes everyone mistake you for a genius 2 Likes |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by Nobody: 3:19pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
@op. Why is everything finetuned for I-pads? 1 Like |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 3:59pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
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Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by vooks: 4:23pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
timonski:It is the iPad that is fine tuned for me and not the other way round. The reason it is fine tuned is because it was DESIGNED for use by intelligent primates like myself. I have an iPad Air and I want to give it away and upgrade to Air 2. 1 Like
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Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by vooks: 4:29pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
AlfaSeltzer:Steve Jobs and his gang did it. Now m0ron, please find a better place to piss and blaspheme 1 Like |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by Nobody: 4:34pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Its because things evolved in the earth so there is a natural fine tuning. |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 4:52pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vooks: steve jobs is dead dead people don't do only doG can do and undo 1 Like |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by vooks: 5:45pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Dnacode:Fine tuning is not about animals Google is your friend but I can help you along https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fine-tuned_Universe |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:49pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Dnacode: Pls change your username , it actually mocks you because you can't PROPERLY explain the origin of the DNA (assumptions and more assumptions ) when you omit or fail to admit the creation of a designer |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 5:50pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vooks: You can fine tune many things Yesterday I fine tuned my radio and years ago I fine tuned my chat-up technique |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by Nobody: 5:51pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
meh, man has been deliberating on this issue AFTER a revolution in thinking and abadoning religious constraints. Sadly, there is no answer because 1) No one was present : If earth is destroyed by nuclear wars and aliens come down to these earth and they saw an Apple laptop, They will acknowledge something lived here once. An argument however, might stem by saying "Who created the first laptop?" (we are assuming Apple laptops are the only laptops on earth). There will be many theory and hypothesis but still no proof. 2) Who cares??: Even on Nairaland, there is a little percentage of free thinkers and athiests. Most people find it easy to just go to church every sunday to pray for sins they will commit in the coming week. Vooks, I have to ask : Are you a christian or an agnostic? 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 5:51pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: who designed the designer? |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:53pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
AlfaSeltzer: God is uncaused - uncreated . So can you show me how LIFE HAS OR NEEDS NO DESIGNER ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by Nobody: 6:07pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: Did I just say there was no designer? Or you think evolution is not compatible with a creator? Nonsense. |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:08pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Dnacode: Sorry . I usually assume that evolutionists are atheists because very few are theistic evolutionists |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by Judas2013: 6:15pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vooks: 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by Nobody: 6:21pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: Both creation and evolution are true. Its now left for us to factor the two together n see how it all happened. 1 Like |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 6:25pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog: Life is uncaused - uncreated . So can you show me how god HAS OR NEEDS NO DESIGNER ? 2 Likes |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:33pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
AlfaSeltzer: Hahaha ... God is an entity/being . He has always existed , and continue to exist for ever . He is the creator of life , a miracle worker , a wonderful , excellent God etc . There has never been anything before Him not even NOTHING . The existence of God PRECLUDES infinite regression . So wow me , show me how life needs or has no designer . Prove to me life is uncaused or uncreated |
Re: plaetton, Why Is EVERYTHING Fine-tuned For Life On Earth,multiverses? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:35pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
[quote author=Judas2013 post=40748613][/quote] Your signature says : "Learn to think Beyond God ... " There is no precursor before God so your signature is irrational |
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