₦airaland Forum

I said this before the elections last yr and i was shouted down.
Yar Adua my foot!

babs787:
I can remember vividly when you posted the verses and I gave you rebuttal providing the detailed verses and asked you who the verse referred to but till now, you havent given you response and if you would be honest to yourself, you would hve read that the versee referred to Isaac after the deed had been committed.

You are even asking what the sacrifice symbolised in The Great Religion when you yourself have been witnessing what it symbolises unlike christianity where it made no sense to you.

this is another typical half-baked attempt to dodge the issue. You NEVER at any point did the above you are claiming to have done. NEVER have you given any detailed rebuttals, NEVER have we discussed this issue and NEVER have i posted the verses directly to you.

Now pls answer my questions rather than ur usual beating around the bush example of dishonesty.

The sacrifice of Isaac has a significant symbolism in christianity. What is the symbolism of the sacrifice in the qura'n? Why did all'ah abandon ishmael for 4000 yrs?

babs787:
If you are referring to the sacrifice, then you are making a grievous mistake by accepting Isaac and when you are ready, we re-open the discussion.

even the qu'ran did not refer to Ishmael at all in its obviously plagiarised version of the sacrifice.
What is the significance of this sacrifice? What did it symbolise in the is'lamic sense?

Why (if its at all true) did all'ah ask for the sacrifice of ishmael and then abandon him for Isaac for 4000yrs?

samba123:
Most of you against the principle of Barnabas even though he is one of the disciple of Jesus but still you did not accept what he preach. You prepare a false doctrine of Pauline teaching which he even did not meet Jesus in his entire life. a hypocrysis a pharisee which the ebonite hate.

Mr you err in two areas:

1. Barnabas was NEVER at any point one of the 12 disciples
2. Paul must have met Jesus in the flesh at some point since he was a pharisee learning at the feet of the priests in Jerusalem. Paul was contemporaries with the disciples so its almost 100% possible that he was old enough to have even heard Jesus preach first hand.

Too many times mus'lims expose the false spirit of error behind their religion when they make such bogus mistakes as this to support their heresy.

someone is really angry here. Nkasi i assure u its all a joke.
No man can run away from a woman with a slight belly.

aloib, 4him is serious o. Its a fun game especially if the girl is the ticklish type. I fancy many of the male complainants here have never had the priviledge of doing so.  

has any guy played "find my belly button" with a girl that has a protruding belly?   Its fun i tell ya.
Try it.

how many men here have even had the priviledge of rubbing these "bellies"?  

the protruding belly isnt bad. Infact i dont think it really protrudes, just smooth and round   Rubbing it can be fun.

Its what happens after pregnancy that is the problem.

[quote author=~Lady~ link=topic=131316.msg2233888#msg2233888 date=1210168550]Why was the covenant made with the Arabs but carried out by Jewish Prophets?

How come he was a messiah to the Jewish people, but the covenant was made with the Arabs?[/quote]We dont usually see eye to eye but this is one pertinent question that mus'lims have steadfastly chosen to pretend to ignore.

Why did all'ah waste all his time using JEWISH PROPHETS? What happened to the lineage of Ishmael from his birth to the time of mu'hammad?
Why is there NO written record of them or any of their prophets?

Uche2nna:
And plis can someone tell me what is the deal with Rev. Wright? Me thinks he is doing Obama more harm than good.

but for him Indiana would have been a massive win for Obama. That man must go down as one of the most foolish men i've ever seen.

just carry the potbelly with pride. Its a sign of being a big man.  

I have met submissive wives who put their feet up on the couch watching Tv while their husbands cook and do the laundry.

Being submissive is being misconstrued wrongly as being the househelp doing all the chores. That is so far from the truth, many men i know like to cook and enjoy being handy around the home . . . that they are now married does not take that desire from them.
A foolish man is one who thinks that being married entitles him to a lifetime of laziness and ordering his wife around. . . that is not submission, that is slavery.

I think Wendy is confused.

Cadet:
two can play a captain.

in your imagination i suppose? There are no 2 captains on a plane, ship, presidential palace.

Hillary concedes defeat.

Cadet:
Lord help me with who I marry. authority kini?

pele dear. live with it.

wendymanda:
Is the husband then God or parents or both? There are different types of love; agape, filos and eros therefore I don't think someone I am romantically involved with is an authority figure, that's just creepy. If my husband can't wash a handkerchief that is where the equality comes in as I will teach him. However if he thinks he is an authority figure over me teaching him how to wash a handkerchief would be a problem. I can explain why if you want me to.

Your husband is an authority figure in your home at least figuratively. Live with it dear.

acidrop:
ehen . . . . . .u seemed to be very experienced in this marriage thing. are u divorced?

God forbid bad thing.   Divorce isnt in my dictionary.

tpia:
or some people don't know there are Nigerian women out there who any guy would be proud to have as a wife, but who can't cook.

i have one example. Its not that she cant cook but she just dislikes it. But they are enjoying a beautiful marriage with 3 kids now. The husband is even worse in the kitchen, the best he can do is boil water or soak garri. Its all about choice and being able to adapt to the others strengths and weaknesses.
All men dont come in the same mould, pick the one that you can live with and be happy.

acidrop:
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, look don't even uproot that sector of discussion, because everyone is saying that the ratio of men 2 women is 1:8. then y in d world are the guys still one pursuing the girls. as in if it was true, i mean by now the girls will be desperate for a boo. but noo, nothing has changed, all these guys will not let person rest. . . .and here u are claiming that we are missing out on u guys. hahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. na wa oooo.

we still chase women because the ratio of facially acceptable women is far less than the 8:1 ratio i mentioned earlier.  

You people still dont get it, if only women could see how much their husband's cherish them in their hearts . . .

wendymanda:
You say this as if it was not you that brought up the woman doing house work Lagos man argument. You cook and do your own chores, pray tell. . . would it be the same if you were married? Yes submissiveness in any context is equal to some type of slavery.

The bible says "submit your ways unto the Lord" . . . does that mean we are slaves of God?
You submit to the authority of your parents, are you their slave?

When i'm married i'll still do what i'm used to doing . . . that is why i insist that marriage is individual. You may end up with a husband who cant wash a handkerchief. what would you do? Buy new ones everyday simply because it is slavery to submit to helping him wash them?

wendymanda:
So people  because men don't like equality or maybe just maybe because there are more important things in life than having a boyfriend.

na so una go talk now.

acidrop:
ehen, look u don't have 2 be married to know what should and should not be. i gat parents too who have been married for a long time. u sef that is talking about marriage are u married? y are u using illustration of your parents. no one is draging leadership. it take understanding to retain  a relationship. if the guy can't understand that the lady is not ojara. then he aint gat no relationship.

wake up, this is the 21st century. Women outnumber men 8:1, if u're not willing there are at least 7 more ready to take ur place. God help u if you're not even fine and u're doing shakara.

wendymanda:
Different strokes for different folks. Am not complaining since am not married and while you expect the woman to be submissive if I get married I plan on being myself. My parents marriage is going on fine and my dad cooks if my mother is tired or because he simply wants to. He calls and tells everyone because his cooking is quiet impressive. . . I hope your wife is submissive enough for you.

its sad that a lot of you simply equate submissiveness to slavery. That is a false alarm.
Surprisingly unlike my dad, i cook far better than many of my aunts, i prefer to do my own house cleaning and laundry. There is nothing a woman does in the house that i cant do even better so besides companionship and having kids i really dont need a woman.
Ditto for many men out there.

Wait until u find a boyfriend who cant even soak garri, i'll see whether u'll let him starve.

first of all congrats to your parents on their 27th anniversary,  but dude welcome to the 21th century. if a man stand the woman stand holding d same power and status, so all those your claim of assistant pilot . . . . .should be dumped

Acidrop, u're a small girl. u're not even 20 . . . do you even have a boyfriend not to talk of knowing anything about marriage?
Who told you my parents are not living in the 21st century?

Most of the females pushing this "i am a leader too" agenda dont even have boyfriends. When you are married pls come here and tell us how much power you wield in ur marriage.

sheniqua:
ROFL.
My sisters are 'Americanized' and married.

na wa o. na village be that.

Cadet:
So , I ask you again, being a wife is just being an assistant?  

The assistant pilot is a certified pilot in his own right. Being assistant to the captain takes nothing away from his hard earned prestige.

wendymanda:
So your mother comes home from work and does all the chores and cooking while your dad does what, flies an aircraft? Yes the way you describe. . . in fact mentioning submissiveness seems to suggest full time house wife.

While my dad stretches his legs and reads a newspaper. Is that a problem to you?
That is the way they chose to live their lives . . . while you sit there complaining, their marriage is going into its 27th yr very soon and they are both happy as can be. Its all in the mind, if you want your husband to help you .  . . nagging and threats wont help you.

Cadet:
David, am tired of you always giving me that  as your answer. Give me another. In a plane, the captain controls everything, so must it be likewise for the marriage?

the captain never controls everything, he needs someone to announce safety procedures, he needs an assistant to help him in case he gets tired, he needs auto-pilot to enable him stretch his legs . . . YET the buck still ends at his table.

wendymanda:
Good, then think of marriage as an aircraft, there are two captains when one gets tired the other takes over.

you must be flying Wendymanda airways.

There is ONE captain on board an aircraft, the other is assistant pilot.

Uche2nna:
It is kind of funny when they  point out cooking as if it is a unique problem witht the Nigerian men. Which American person would cook for You? Not the ones I know around here, definitely. They can't cook for shit!!!! What about the ladies? Well, if You can't make do with Pizza and ordering in, then forget about dating them.

bros you dey mind them? I dont know which American man will wake up in the morning to scrub the floor for you. No be partnership?

wendymanda:
I thought marriages was an equal opportunity front but since in terms of marriage there is a difference in the meaning of submissiveness then. . .  You remember when you said Lagos men will not do housework? I think if I have to do it all then yes, I am basically his house help. There is a difference between shouldering responsibility and expecting me to do all the housework. Besides what kind of responsibility will he have if am doing all the chores? (I hope you don't think I will not have a career because am married. Not planning on doing all this school to get certificates for dust collecting and baby pushing)

Wendy, you're way off point. My mom has a successful medical career and yet manages the home front perfectly well so what is ur point? Does submissiveness mean you shld become a fulltime house wife?

Sheniqua abeg if you have a sister pls recommend me to her, all this "equal opportunity" people don tire me. When next u're driving ur car have ur bf hold one end of the steering wheel too.

Cadet:
Must one be a leader? What does partnership means to you? seriously, answer thant question

trying flying an aircraft as a partnership.

[quote author=D-reloaded link=topic=132343.msg2232176#msg2232176 date=1210128793]I'm confused, so the wife should adjust to the fact that because Nigerian men are supposedly not used to doing housework(my dad would get a kick out of that Btw), the wife should "adjust" to that and be expected to do eveyrthing on her own because after all that's what Nigerian men born/raised in Nigeria are used to?[/quote]compromise is a 2-way street. Sheniqua said it best, marriage is an individual thing and not a prescribed formular.
It is not about the woman trying to prove she too can be leader. If you know how to play ur cards well u'll have ur husband doing things for you that you never expected.

My aunt hates house cleaning, her husband does it or gets someone else to help . . . some men i know do the cooking in their homes . . . it is all a matter of choice.