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Isnt it all so funny. Mus'lims and their religion of confusion.
- they tell us ishmael was the first son of Abraham, the one with the promise and the one who was to have been used for the sacrifice.

- Now why has all Frizy's "gospel" been solely focused on the unimportant son Isaac and his descendants?

- Where are the gospels of the children of Ishmael? Did all'ah forget them for 4000yrs?

Justcool, your stories have no bearing with the issue you initially raised.
You have sited an extreme case that has no link to millions of other marriages out there based on love, companionship and God's blessings.

The bible says the marriage bed is undefiled - whatever my wife and i choose to do on that bed is lawful in the eyes of God. Sex is not a sin, it is God's gift to man meant to be enjoyed within the confines of a loving union between a man and his wife.
I have every right to lust after MY WIFE, i have every right to experiment with sex with MY WIFE, i have every right to picture MY WIFE naked . . .

uspry1 i must confess your attitude can be annoying. Quit playing internet class captain.

stick top working in the UK. Nigeria is not that flexible so there is a limit to what jobs are available. The oil companies are probably over-staffed at the moment, everyone who schools abroad is targetting them . . .
Environmental health in Nigeria? No chance.

Cadet:
David, thanks for letting me know.

shhh not you.

Justcool, that's justbull.

How can you commit adultery with ur wife?

girls who just talk toooooo much. Once in a while shut up! Aswerigaawd! 

this thread is crazy aswerigaawd!

olabowale:
since we are no 100% immune to mistake, one is to curb oneself, by struggling against it. And never ever implement it, regardless the urge. The struggle against it is itself is a blessing.

Here is another glaring difference between christianity and is'lam. While you struggle (in vain) against sin, the blood of Jesus cleanses us from ALL sin. The struggle is not a blessing, it is a sorrow because as flesh you can never win.

olabowale:
@~Lady~: lol. Time will tell.

the "truth" has stood firm for 4000yrs.

she's 13 or 23?

Cadet:
Eh en! Good thing some testings are coming out about male pregnancies, beware!

sorry ma'am. that's something for you to worry about, especially babies that cry wa wa every second.

marriage sounds interesting. so long as i'm not the one carrying the pregnancies.

oh ok. normal stress of married life.
No big deal.

Its not worth it, but i see no harm in doing so as long as you are standing firm in your own faith.

spoilt:
To single women i say enjoy your life. nothing prepares you for the complications marriage brings. I'm telling you. Ive been married 2 years and i feel a hundred years old already.

why?

Vic, its good. I dont dig correspondence outside nairaland any longer. I'm happy with the select few i deal with and i dont wish to expand that circle.
I dont know what you do and frankly its none of my business neither shld it be the business of many here who have made vic-bashing a sport.
Its an anonymous forum, we meet here to have fun . . . once we log out we forget everything and move on with our REAL lives. Apparently some have no lives and would not mind bursting their veins for some they've never met.

NubianQ, it seems u're speaking out of a recent bad relationship experience.
Give it a few more months and u'd start fretting about marrying and settling down early.

LadyT:
If a nigerian girls idea of "ROMANTIC" is a session of stuffing her face at Mr.Biggs and then being whisked off to the nearest yahoozee boutique then I don't blame the guys.

Some of you cows are such money grabbing hussys its not even funny.

Romance is not about how much money is spent!!!  

Romance isnt even about money in the first place, its about commitment, compromise and sacrifice. Money is simply one of the vehicles of expressing love.

minto:
Na 9jaboi o. see im head._{chei this big belle post dey pain the ladies no be small} . Agreed, some Nigerian girls might have protruding bellies but I hate to compare them with the whites. Jokes apart you hardly can get one out of ten white girls with nice trim shape. check out their flabby bellies, puffed waistline and almost parallel butt.

i thought i was the only one who noticed?

nah, even hotfunmi wasnt this crass.

maybe you shld categorise this thread as part of the "stupid questions" you so often attribute to others.

mosyb:
O boy if u wan know who get 3rd class, ask of tony Elumelu, UBA CEO, what of Gani Fawehinmi etc,no b d class of degree u get , na the sense wey u get, most companies to day no care about class of degree, na wetin u get to offer na im them want

the usual trump card used to excuse laziness.

olabowale:
I id not ask if if they had nothing to do with each other. However, since you raise this matter, again, it is not the position of even Isaac or his mother Sarah to deny the Arabs of the lineage from Ibrahim through first son Ismail.

No one is denying anything, you still find urself running around my earlier question - what has Ishmael to do with the sons of Isaac?
Why is your qu'ran so pre-occupied with the history, prophets, customs and stories of the sons of Jacob?

olabowale:
Leavin Sarah out of this, Isaac was blind when his wife deceived him, favoring Jacob over Esau, both of them her sons. Is this the mark of a good mother?

Thou hypocrite, where is the story of Ishmael's wife and her own sons? What has the qu'ran to do with the sons of Isaac?

olabowale:
Shall we go to the Children of Jacob because I do not want to waste too much time on Biblical Jacob? His sons plotted against their own brother, while they deceived him in his state of blindness! And it took a black man and a black nation to bring them to prominence.

What became of the grandsons of Ishmael? What has the qu'ran to do with the sons of Jacob?

olabowale:
If I jump to Moses, we see how they traverse the wildness for forty years instead of 40 days!

Where is the prophet to the sons of Ishmael? What has Moses and the jews to do with is'lam?

olabowale:
Why, because they did tremendous evil. You need more? How about their many idol worshipping? Are they really better than the arabs preM.uhamm.ad?

Oh thou hypocrite, how can we compare? Where are the good deeds that the sons of Ishmael did as recorded in ur qu'ran? Again . . . what has the evil deeds of the jews got to do with is'lam?

olabowale:
How about their disobedience to God and killing a number of the prophets?

Why is this a problem to you? where are ishmael's prophets?

olabowale:
Afterall the kill your god, Jesus. These are the people you align yourself with and called them the elect of God still, after all of these? Elect of your god who killed your god is your best friend? You must truly love your god. If he is truly a god he should reject you.

accuser of the brethren . . . what has the actions of the jews to do with is'lam? What were the sons of ishmael up to at this period?

olabowale:
We also see the many examples of true believers in true belief and in their steadfastness, they are rewarded and a good place is awaiting them in the hereafter. This is why you have the history of the Children of Israel from Israel (Jacob) onward to Jesus.

Why dont we have the history of the children of Ishmael onward to mo'hammad? Why can you not learn true belief and steadfastness from them?

olabowale:
Remember there were stories about people before Jacob ( these people were not "Children of Israel" and stories about people after Jesus;

Oh thou inverterate liar, where are these stories in the qu'ran?

olabowale:
What about constitution/treaty between people to live by, giving rights to everyone, irrespective of gender?

The greeks gave us democracy.
Where are these "rights" you speak of in mus'lim nations? Show us oh thou liar.

olabowale:
Check out the constitution of madina under the prophet? What about alliances and being true to your promises? Finally what about Banking? The word and system of Checking account is from where?

is this the same constitution in places like Saudi Arabia?

A long tale full of hogwash, failed woefully to tackle the real questions rather preferring to perambulate in the darkness of deceit.

without a doubt - no air.

samba123:
@4Him

we are going further to the topic lol

do you really like to trace the lineage of Ishmael 4000 years back?

or you just like to make a non sense diversion the story of Barnabas?

There is NO topic in the sense that:
- The "gospel of barnabas" has been proven beyond a doubt to be a forgery.
- None of you have been able to come up with CONCRETE EVIDENCE to back up your claims that this fraudulent gospel was shld be taken seriously beyond ur usual prevaricating.

Samba, use your brain . . . why is the qu'ran replete with stories of the history of the jews for 4000yrs and YET NOT ONE PEEP about the descendants of ishmael though you all lie so loudly that the promise of Abraham passed unto ishmael?
Why is the qu'ran so focused on jewish prophets?
Why do YOU know ALL the 12 jewish disciples of a jewish Jesus Christ and YET cannot point to one single ishmaelite prophet before mo'hammad?

These are concrete issues . . . you cant be hugging the gospel of barnabas, himself another jew, while telling us to take ur lies seriously.

I think so many misguided folks here actually think non-metrosexual men are those who dont fancy looking good. Cant be further from the truth.

olabowale:
@4Him: You are suffering from cronic delution. And I see that this is because of your hatred for anything other than Israelites and Jesus. Well there were and there are peoples other than Isralites on earth. And there were prophets who were more beloved to God before Jesus and there was a prophet who was most beloved after him. Deal with it.

Plenty of noise making and YET not a single attempt to answer the KEY question?

olabowale:
It is almost sickening responding to you, but my hope in your future turning around keeps me going forward. You are a classic example of the Qu.r.'anic verse of blind, deaf and dumb in Baqarah.

You are a classic example of the dishonest. Pls see below for proof:

olabowale:
Do you know everyday to day events in the lives of the Children of Israel from the time they arrived in Egypt during the time of Joseph authority to just before the prophethood of M.u.h.ammad was announced in Arabia?

- Joseph and the children of Jacob have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the children of Ishmael as they had already separated as a people, to attempt to smuggle both into the same lineage is to play the hypocrite.
- We dont know the exact details of every single day in the life of the biblical heroes but we know and can trace their journeys through biblical and historical records of their most important acts.
WHERE IS THE HISTORY OF THE DESCENDANTS OF ISHMAEL? The qu'ran contains jumbled up and plagiarised stories of the jews, where is the story of the ishmaelites? Did all'ah consider them too unimportant to include in his q'uran?

olabowale:
In the Q.your.'an the chapter titled the elephant's event ossurred in the year of the birth of the prophet. It is obvious that from fewer people who arrived after Ismail and his mother were left there had swelled to a noticeable crossroad city among the arabs. It is because of the pilgrimage that prompted the people of the elephant to mount an assult against it.

what is the meaning of this drivel? What question are you attempting to answer here?

olabowale:
My question to you is this, whats purpose does it serve you to know their preis.slamic period

this is a question that exposes the fraud of is'lam. It considers jewish historical details important enough to include in the qu'ran and deems pre-is'lamic period as unimportant? Who is fooling who here?

olabowale:
but then you refused the is.lam that sprang from them to benefit the rest of the world?

Beyond murder, terror and suicide bombers how has is'lam benefited the world?

olabowale:
Aren't you being dishonest here? You are confronted with the truth, you are rejecting it.

read through ur own post, if you see a smidgen of truth there pls show me.

olabowale:
But you want to know what was happening to them in the time of their ignorance!

but the qu'ran cares enough to include that of the jews?

olabowale:
All they were doing was doing evil and Is.l.am came to eradicate all of the evils. It came to eradicate idolatry, adultory, killing of their daughters who they often buried alive, generational wars and rancours between tribes and families, lack of worship to God, except that they set up mediator/intercessor/savior (does this ring a bell?), etc. All of the ills, Is.l.am came to eradicate them.

Really? Is'lam came to eradicate all the evils that are the hallmark of typical mus'lem states? wow!