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Seun:
What a stupid murder cover-up story. So the pastor made no effort to get out when he started suffocating? I don't buy it. They murdered him.

The grave was filled up with sand. I don't think there would be a way to get out even if he wanted to.

winner01:
naah, the pastor acted on his own accord.

Why the denial.
Don't u think the pastor knows that it is not by strength - sayest the lord.
And call upon the lord and he would show u great and mighty things which thou knowest not - says his God (jer 33:3)

Therefore he acted in faith in his God.

KingEbukaNaija:
The pretext was showboating .

What, showboating in this serious situation.
I don't agree, I believe he acted in faith, probably he will wake up another day. lol

KingEbukaNaija:
I dont actually go for Chapel services so I don't know

Chineke!!!!!!!!
You stabber, so why ur interest in religion.
Or u had 18 hours vision too. lol

winner01:
Jesus did not ask his followers to die and ressurect na.

He told them to do greater works, so I guess the pastor acted in faith.

KingEbukaNaija:
Nice . It thought CDS boys were just interested in girls . Its good to see a CU student thinking differently , its very very rare .

Ya, its now CBSS and CLDS
Accounting have always been good. Remember victor Ubong and the student chaplain of 2013.

phillthy:
Keep it coming guys, Great effort but not correct.

Seriously, if its not 198 or 66 (as per syntax) then what is it?

KingEbukaNaija:
What program ?

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winner01:
Okay. He is on his own.

If he likes he should ask them to nail him to the cross and plan to ressurect the third day.

@yourmeme
He was trying to be like him(Jesus)

KingEbukaNaija:
where you a CU student ?

I'm in my final year.

concentrated:
66 birds now

How?

C.U making us proud.

198

This is as a result of hearing voices and refusing to go and see a psychologist.

honourhim:
Bro everyone is created for a purpose and that is what happened in the case of Jeremiah and Paul. We are all born with gifts and callings. Some people's calling are much bigger than the others as in the case of these two men.
The point I'm making is that not everyone fulfill their purpose in life. Some still make wrong choices. That you are born for a purpose does not mean you will be remote controlled to fulfill it. However,I still recognize the place of grace.

You are always talking about purpose. Do u expect me to believe that God created the thousands of poor kids in Mozambique, Eritrea ..., for a purpose?
You also want me to believe that your purposeful God spoke about the antichrist & co, and all what they shall do, and will still sit on his throne and expect anybody to assume those position at any time of this life, because there is bound to be bad decisions made?
But though I agree with u that your God created some people with higher purpose, therefore we can conclude that others were created with lesser/evil purposes. Right?

Please, I probably might not be getting your point of view, so please explain them by properly addressing the questions I raised(esp the first 2).

Weah96:
Don't be so sure. Gnostics used entheogens too.


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262673553_Sacred_Plants_and_the_Gnostic_Church_Speculations_on_Entheogen-Use_in_Early_Christian_Ritual

Nah I don't think so, cos they were more concerned with inner meditation as it affect human nature and less concerned with looking for an external god away from themselves.

raphieMontella:
yes..i do knw that a positive mind is a boost to the immune system..speeds us reaction time of normal drugs... And gives the white blood cells an extra armoury in instances of no drugs etc..
The subconcious mind...
I do knw our beliefs tend to affect sm situations at times..bt i dnt really believe in magic miracles..unless it is an amputee being healed or a cojoined twin separated...
Then u can convince me of higher powers...
Because...even magic is a trickshow nt supernatural...

Again I agree.
I don't believe in magic either.
I believe some people get involved in a situation where the subconscious mind is at work, and since they can't comprehend it, they regard it as magic or favour from god.
I found out that gullibility aids the subconscious mind too ( if u understand what I mean?).

xmozex:
Hi, any Deist in the house?

yep

raphieMontella:
possibly...m nt against the idea of a god controlling me...bt jst that the one presented by religion is false and man made

I agree with you on that.
Why not search more on the subconciuos mind and what wonders it holds such as healing.(I suggest gregg braden on youtube)
And have u noticed that the placebo effect works somewhat like faith preached in mainstream religion?

raphieMontella:
yh i do...
M an atheist..i dnt believe in a big sky daddy..
That stuff tries to show origins of certain claimed heavenly beings the son..the holy spirit..angels...etc...which i have no belief in..
Unless the bible/quran/book of mormon is rewrritten truthfully..
Even at that sef...u never can conclude

well i dont believe in the mainstream view of 'the son','the holy spirit', the concept of grace and favour, but i believe there is a creator, in which we are all interconnected. And ancient practice(not religion) like chi energy for example confirms this.

Weah96:
I'm 100% convinced that everyone who wrote that bible was on DRUGS, well, entheogens to be precise.

They are a class of psychotropic drugs that produce mind blowing hallucinations, or a completely altered state of consciousness. Call it dreaming while awake.

Each entheogen has its own non human entity. So if a group of people sat down and smoke peyote, they all see and communicate with the peyote god, who I believe is a female.

Likewise, psilocybin mushrooms tend to put you in contact with a male god during your visionary state.

The ancient Israelites had a local form of psychedelic drug which put them in contact with their tribal god Yahweh. The result of that is the bible.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/12/religion-as-a-product-of-psychotropic-drug-use/282484/

http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/Sermon10drugs.htm

http://entheology.com/peoples/revelation-a-psychdelic-vision/

Nah, i believe the orignal authors of the bible meant for the stories to be interpreted in a spiritual sense and not literally.
But this was corrupted(probably in most case not intentionally) to keep people in line through a reward system
If u know about the greek history, kundalini, chi energy, and most eastern metaphysical practices u will discover that they connect, and the forerunners interpreted what they realized with stories.

raphieMontella:
oh...uve read abt thos aeon's and emanations of god..lol

yep, u disagree?

Eddlad:
Worthless to me? Who am I?

Decorating a toilet doesn't make it any easier eating from it, what can anyone call good done on this earth?Take time and digest this.

what do u regard as good or not good. Or do u even believe in the word good.

KingEbukaNaija:
Wow , don't just say no . Provide cogent reasons why you disagree to those attributes

From an esoteric(Gnostic) understanding
God is all that there ever was, is, and will be, a spirit that dwell in our body(His House).
Meaning the view of the mainstream belief of god to be a seperate being is wrong, but in reality we are already ONE with God on a level that our limited egos can never fully comprehend nor understand.

The pneumatics in the early greece, which were the highest class of spiritual humans, realize gnosis, a personal, experiential knowledge allowing them to transcend the material world. They received direct revelation of Jesus Christ, the inner truth, or divine spark of Sophia (wisdom), which i belive was what paul and some early greek philosophers were really talking about.

You probably have not heard this before and wondering why i am equating your historical(which i dont agree) Jesus with inner revelation. I'm not on weed .

honourhim:
Sorry you are talking about talents/gifts which is also referred to as our various callings. The scripture says that we have various gifts. Some are called to be apostles, some teachers, some prophets, some evangelists some pastors, some are talented in the area of music, some in the medical field, some in humanities and so on. Is this what you mean by predestination? And you forgot that even though all of us are blessed with various talents yet a good number of us end up in an area that is not our calling in life. Even in the parable of the talents that Jesus gave, the man with one talent didnt use his own. If talents/gifts are what you call predestination then people wouldnt be ending up outside their area of calling.




John 3;16 says- for God so love the world that............that WHOSOEVER believeth in him.....`
The salvation call has always been for WHOSOEVER WILL...
Simply put- Salvation is available for all men but its only those who are willing that will reach out to get it.
I wouldnt know how you arrived at the statement you made. Kindly refer me to the biblical portion where it is written,
Thanks,

I'm not talking about talents and gifts.(I know those stories)

I was talking about predestination of paul and jeremiah
Here are scriptural references pertaining paul and jeremiah:
Galatians 1 verse 15 & 16:
But when God, who set me apart from my mother’s womb and called me by His grace, was pleased to reveal His Son in me so that I might preach Him among the Gentiles,.....

Jeremiah 1 verse 5:
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.

KingEbukaNaija:
So you believe God is omnipotent , omniscient & omnipresent ?

No

KingEbukaNaija:
Which religion best portrays your idea of the supernatural creator ?

The judea-christain religion

Eddlad:
Making someone's life a little better as you may see it doesn't have to have meaning, just remember anyone can do it.

So u mean deeds by Mandela, Ghandi and several others are worthless to you, because of their beliefs.

KingEbukaNaija:
Wow ! A deist ! So cool . I have lots of questions for you . Can I ask them ?

Go ahead

KingEbukaNaija:
God is not evil bro . Please when you guys claim not to be atheists , just complete it with what you guys are . So what are you ? A deist ? I need to see another deist apart from DeepSight , I need to ask him questions .

I agree that God is not evil.
And yes I'm a deist.

Eddlad:
It was figurative.You seem to point out that mark was doing going and it was suppose to mean something,I merely am saying it doesn't.

So when does doing good mean something?

KingEbukaNaija:
You really need to understand the story before jumping into conclusion . Smh

Well I am not an atheist, I just believe in the esoteric meaning of scriptures.
And from the literal interpretations of scripture, I think I stand corrected to the view of god being evil.
Besides, what is more to the stories that I don't understand?