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KingEbukasBlog:
[size=18pt]Nobel Prizes have been awarded to over 850 individuals. According to 100 Years of Nobel Prize (2005), a review of Nobel prizes awarded between 1901 and 2000, 65.4% of Nobel Prize Laureates, have identified Christianity in its various forms as their religious preference (423 prizes). Overall, Christians have won a total of 78.3% of all the Nobel Prizes in Peace, 72.5% in Chemistry, 65.3% in Physics, 62% in Medicine, 54% in Economics and 49.5% of all Literature awards.
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Jews - over 20% of total Nobel Prizes winners

Atheists, agnostics and freethinkers - 10.5% of total Nobel Prizes winners

Muslims - 0.8% of total Nobel Prizes winners

The atheists were even grouped alongside the agnostics and freethinkers and the three combined managed just 10.5 percent . LMAO

KingEbukasBlog:
Something being good does not mean it cannot be destroyed or improved upon . God has plans and he works towards the fulfillment of his plans

KingEbukasBlog:
I clearly said that God's judgement decides who goes to Heaven or Hell

KingEbukasBlog:
He is not interested in getting healed by a non existent God .

KingEbukasBlog:
How about giving your life to Christ and living a life of rectitude and stop being querulous !

KingEbukasBlog:
There's the internet that serves as a buttress for research . Use it .

KingEbukasBlog:
Stop quoting random verses that are not pertinent . God is simply not subject to His laws .

KingEbukasBlog:
You are wise for admitting there is a creator

KingEbukasBlog:
Coming anon .

KingEbukasBlog:
How does this stop atheists from being the ones responsible for the death of close to 300 million people simply because of their hatred for the religious . We have proven times without number that atheists have the disposition to kill , terrorise and be malevolent towards the religious .

KingEbukasBlog:
Good for you bro .

KingEbukasBlog:
How does this refute the article ? GotQuestions believe Hell has been existing ab aeterno and I don't agree with them .

KingEbukasBlog:
I don't know about Islam .

KingEbukasBlog:
Please stop quoting random verses and drawing erroneous illations

kilo4sure:
Wow l think l have made my point, and there's no need to push this any further.

kilo4sure:
On the issue of Josephus, l still don't get you..
If you are saying that Josephus reference to Jesus was altered by Eusebius, then we are saying thesame thing,but the original paragraph that speaks about Jesus was from Josephus. There are even older Syrian and Arabic manuscripts of the text from Josephus which do not speak of Jesus being the Christ or his ressurection, which would look more like original text of Josephus, the reference to jesus as a wise man who attracted many Jews is generally agreed as authentic. Also the reference to James the brother of Jesus is authentic.
But if you are saying that Eusebius sold ideas about Jesus to Josephus, then this obviously cannot be the case, since Eusebius was not alive the during the time of Josephus.

KingEbukasBlog:
Lolz. What about this creator's abode ?

KingEbukasBlog:
@4kings , let's continue

Describe this supernatural creator which you believe exists

Are you open to the possibility that there could be more than one creator ?

hahn:
How do you know it has chosen not to reveal itself?

hahn:
Aliens are beings. A different specie of animals if you like.

hahn:
God on the other hand is the reason, supposedly, of existence itself.

hahn:
However, no one has heard from it, seen it or can verify it exists. It's only source of existence is books written over 2,000 years ago by goat herders. And even that is not for certain.

hahn:
Besides, why must the "creator" be a "who" and not a "what"?

kilo4sure:
1) lt was not a culture where things were always written down, besides most of the apostles may not have been that literate to write things down, they also may have thought that the end was nigh and did not think of preserving these stories in books, but when the apostle began to die, the Christian communities had to put down these stories they had from oral culture. Even Talmudic Judaism in those days was oral, not so much writing until the second century.

kilo4sure:
2) Funny how you tell me to read and not be biased, if you are truly current on this issue you would know that no scholar disputes the reference to James the brother of Jesus by Josephus, and that while the other text may have been altered, it was still written by Josephus, unless you just read up only biased atheist websites, rather than the works of academians on this issue. You are the one who should do more reading on this issue my friend not me. As a matter of fact except for maybe Richard carrier and Robert price(Richard is not even that qualified) no other professor of history( Christian or non Christian) would agree with you here on the issue of Josephus', reference to Jesus.

kilo4sure:
3) Are you truly non biased as you claim to be? If Tacticus had not made a reference to Jesus, you would also be the first to raise your voice on a thousand hills, that even Tacticus didn't mention Jesus. He did and now you try to prove a point that he can't be trusted. Well as every Historian would tell you many of the sources we rely on for ancient history can't be totally trusted as well, they are biased and give credence to myth and magic. The work of the Historian has always been to separate the shaft from the wheat.
This issue has nothing to do with Constantine or your other Roman conspiracy theories.
Good evening.

hahn:
You mean disputing the existence of something that hasn't been proven to exist, since the existence of man, is irrational?

KingEbukaNaija:
Lolzz ... Nahhhh .... I was not

KingEbukaNaija:
Howdy bro

kilo4sure:
1) The synoptic gospels are identical because while Mark was the first to be written, Matthew and Luke were drawn from an early oral Q source and mark.
2) All scholars agree that Josephus reference to James the brother of Jesus is authentic and has not been altered, also while the first reference was altered slightly to say that Jesus was a god, it was certainly written by Josephus because it follows thesame pattern and many of the phrases used are in line with Josephus writing style. In fact there are versions from Ethiopia that do not show any sign of being altered. BTW Tacticus also spoke about Jesus.
3) While it is true that the works of Aristotle are well documented, we do not have so much to rely on when it comes to Socrates, it is very much like that of Jesus, we have mark and Paul as well as the Q sources for Jesus, in thesame way we have Xenophone, Plato, and Aristophanes, accounts which scholars do not totally trust as well.
Also l noticed your argument from silence, stating the fact that no one mentioned Jesus in his time. What you fail to prove is why the historians of that time should care about a Jewish teacher and would be messaiah at the time, when there were also many like him. Philo for instance was more interested in politics and philosophy. What we do know about the messaianic movement of that era comes from just one man..Josephus. And he mentioned Jesus not once but twice. Also if we should discard the works of Tacticus simply because he was non contemporary, then historians would have very little to go by today, since a lot of what we know in history comes from non contemporary sources.

Charlesdock:
Sir the fruits of the spirit are the substance in making Heaven. They blasphemy against the Holy Spirit by being enemies of righteousness.

Charlesdock:
So what has Mr Seun got for creating this thread? Get more traffic This is the reason we always tell them without the Holy Spirit you can't understand the bible. Mr Seun just opened the bible and saw the death of Anaians and Sapphira then he concluded christianity is fake. What a topic

Charlesdock:
what does the fruit of the spirit got to do with this?

KingEbukasBlog:
Every religion is dogmatic

honourhim:
Was Paul among the disciples who worked with Christ when he was on earth? Why didnt Paul write against the gospel? Why did he make reference to what was written in the gospel in his epistles? Why did he have anything to do with apostle Peter? How come all that they wrote were related to each other?

What was the mission of Jesus on earth? To make disciples of himself. He commanded thee disciples to go into the world and spread what they have learnt from him, and that is part of what they just did in the gospels and epistles. If Jesus had written, you would have still asked why didnt his disciples write or you would have picked another hole. We know your games but it wont work.

otemanuduno:
I am being ministered to by one who said he is EARTUM(ATUM), a brother of Jehovah. He assured me that they all existed just as he is ministering them to me.

Then in March, I was attacked by the writer of the NEW TESTAMENT part of the Bible whose name is EUSEBIUS(the one who made the NEW TESTAMENT doctrine of the Bible appear real) in our own world. The attack of EUSEBIUS gave me the assurance that I AM INDEED ON TRACK because he shouldn't have attacked me if indeed I AM NOT ON COURSE.


So, I have pledged my whole life to make the TRUTH known to the world till even the point of death; and no god(not even Yahweh) can stop ME from telling it as it is.

M17CXi:
What d h*ll are you talking about
Satan creating hell fire!!?

Dude have u eating!?


Satan create hell fire!
Lol
Go read the holy books again pls!!!!!!!!!!!

M17CXi:
What d h*ll are you talking about
Satan creating hell fire!!?

Dude have u eating!?


Satan create hell fire!
Lol
Go read the holy books again pls!!!!!!!!!!!

Anas09:
Who even started this Moniker piling? Now every Punk will spew trash and line up Monikers.
Joe, go borrow some sense if you let a smarter dude got yours. Now stay off my mention except you have something reasonable to say.

KingEbukaNaija:
Thank God I came early . The rebuttal go take time so expect this post to be modified .


These arguments have been rebutted so many times and its becoming rebarbative . Na wa oo

KingEbukaNaija:
Starting your post with a logical fallacy is grossly inauspicious . How can you make such illogical conclusion with no proof sef . The most intelligent minds on the planet are Christians - the preponderance of evidence to support this is overwhelming .

KingEbukaNaija:
Revelation 21:1-5
1 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[a] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

KingEbukaNaija:
Another opinion . See bro , I'm just in the third "point" you made and I'm already bored . I don't believe in God because of these jejune reasons of yours . There are Christians who do not believe in Hell . And again , Hell is a deterrent - it discourages you from erring and if you become errant for whatever reason it is your comeuppance . Its that simple . Trust me , there are certain actions like vices , crime you restrain yourself from taking because of the bad consequence . Just relate it to hell .

And its God's judgement that decides who ends up in Hell or not . Believing in Christ because it comforts you , or were one from Childhood or you are afraid of hell are not prerequisites for going to Heaven . Salvation is what gets to Heaven . If you are saved then there is no need to fear Hell . You can't be afraid of prison when you did not a crime .

KingEbukaNaija:
There are so many evidences for miracles . My friend , get up and go to Church and listen to myriads of testimonies and stop typing rubbish .

KingEbukaNaija:
A good judge metes out the condign punishment for your offence . God's condign punishment for offenders - sinners - is Hell . He has warned you so many times through his prophets of what would befall you if you die as a sinner - that's love for you .

A human being who has not reached the age of accountability will not go to Hell .



They will be judged according to their works .

KingEbukaNaija:
A supernatural event defies scientific laws - its simple logic . There are so many archaeological evidences to support bible stories . Please stop being ignorant and use the internet to make these discoveries yourself .

KingEbukaNaija:
That's what freewill is all about . Durrrh !!! . Freewill is not concerned with the consequee of your actions .

KingEbukaNaija:
God is not subject to His laws .

Read here for demystification : www.nairaland.com/3031728/reasons-why-god-not-subject/

KingEbukaNaija:
1. What caused the Big Bang ?
2. What caused life to come forth from the non living ?
3. What gave nature the propensity for complexity ?

In addition , these are scientific assumptions that keep getting modified . No one was a witness to these events . And these theories do not preclude the existence of God . The Big Bang Theory was proposed by a Belgian Priest and there are Christians who are evolutionists . Complexity obviously necessitates a designer . A simple cell is more complex than an aeroplane . The aeroplane is designed but not the more complex simple cell ? LOL .

KingEbukaNaija:
There is an argument I'm working on , sui generis I think - "The Emulation of Nature" argument . Where nature is being emulated and the product of this process is described as intelligently designed therefore denying Nature is intelligently designed is blatant dishonesty and vacuous.

KingEbukaNaija:
Atheists are responsible for the worst killings in human history .

KingEbukaNaija:
Christian means Christ-like , did Christ indulge in all these depravities ? No . Also note that all sinners will go to Hell .

Christianity does make people better the evidence is overwhelming .

KingEbukaNaija:
This answers your question : http://www.gotquestions.org/not-under-the-law.html .

KingEbukaNaija:
This answers your question : And then Christians disagree due to false doctrine . There are Churches that twist the bible to sate their worldly desires .

KingEbukaNaija:
1 Corinthians 1:10
10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

honourhim:
From verses 1-17 of the Exodus 4 that you quoted, God had a thorough dialogue with Moses where he did convincing signs for him and also gave him encouraging words.
From verses 18-20 Moses embarked on the assignment God gave to him, his father also gave his consent and wished him well. He didnt disobey God and there is nothing to show that what God did in verse 24 was because he was angry with Moses for being doubtful and afraid. Verse 24 didnt also show any form of imposition because Moses had already been convinced and had embarked on the assignment BEFORE the verse 24 incident, which happened while he was on his way to Egypt.
In verse 28 Moses told Aaron all that God told him and the signs he commanded him to do. He never mentioned the verse 24 incidence as one of the experiences he had with God concerning that matter.
Obviously what happened in verse 24 was irrelevant to that matter at hand. Only God knows why what happened in verse 24 happened.
In the case of Jonah, he suffered the consequences of choosing not to obey God. Remember i said that there is no absolute freedom anywhere in this world. While you are very free to choose what you want to do, you are not very free to choose not to suffer the consequences of your actions. Some people repent while facing the consequences of their action while some others stand their ground and face it even to the point of dying. In the case of Jonah, he repented while facing the consequences of his actions.
God is still in charge so he cannot just be watching us without making interventions. God plays his part, man plays his part and other creatures play theirs too.

honourhim:
Sorry, my bad. I read some and used it to reply. I usually have very tight schedule which gives me limited time here. If you noticed, most of my replies to you come late in the night only a few comes in the day time and those ones are usually short replies.

honourhim:
He foretells what he saw.(i mean the event as it happened) Whoever he saw that carried the assignment will surely carry it out and thats the one he speaks out. The once he saw cannot carry the assignment has no need to be mentioned. We cant tell how many people he sought for before getting the one who truly will carry it out which he foretold . So the issue of the one he has seen carried it out turning around to say no does not arise here. I dont know if you understood my point here anyway.

honourhim:
In the case of Genesis 15;13 that you quoted, God was voicing his foreknowledge about the children of Abraham. If you read from verse 1 of that chapter you will notice that Abraham had a friendly discussion with God which led to that pronouncement in verse 13. If the pronouncement was about predestination then it wouldnt have been that of a sad news that Abraham's children will go into captivity for 400 years.
I mean, if Abraham and God were quarelling before that pronouncement then one would ve had some grounds to believe that it was because God was angry that he decided to make children who will go into captivity for Abraham, at least to punish his emotions.'
This is not to say that divine intervention cannot play out in some issues.

honourhim:
YAhweh is Jewish name for God. In Igbo he is Chineke, in Yoruba he is Oluwa and so on.

honourhim:
yea i understand you bro. I am not rigid on biblical matters. I am always open to discussion so as to learn more. Your points are not irrelevant in this discussion i must say. They also make impact in my bible reasoning so i appreciate.

honourhim:
Me too. Its been quite a good and enjoyable discussion for me. Cheers.

Aisha800:
. I share in that feeling too

4everGod:
I am having a private conversation in a public forum what did you expect? If it was real life I would have moved away from earshot.

4everGod:
He can't help himself. Its like an addict who needs to take his dose or else he may start experiencing painful withdrawal symptoms.

KingEbukaNaija:
Bill Gates is not an atheist of whatever type . Irreligiousity =! atheism . Having no religion does not make you an atheist . Bill Gate is most likely a deist . "It makes sense to believe in God" as he puts it .

KingEbukaNaija:
Bill Gates is not an atheist . This is like the third time I'm telling you this . Its like you are repeating it to assure yourself He is one . He is not an atheist and will never be .

So are you a gnostic atheist ?

utenwuson:
if u have ever been attack by harm robbers u ll c jungle justice as child play! I can gv 100 n 1 reasons why jungle justice is d best way for justice to be serve in Africa certain

donpata:
Many people are acting like what Pa Adeboye said was not fact. There are exceptions but the rule generally applies. Read Proverbs 24:27
New International Version
Put your outdoor work in order and get your fields ready; after that, build your house.

New Living Translation
Do your planning and prepare your fields before building your house.

The Amplified Bible
[Put first things first.] Prepare your work outside and get it ready for yourself in the field; and afterward build your house and establish a home.

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