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Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Billionaire09: 5:27pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
SEONaijaExpert: If you are still looking for the evidence of budgets diversion. You left me no choice to believing that you are as corrupt as slaves masters.
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Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by SEONaijaExpert: 5:48pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
Billionaire09:That was properly addressed before the election. I guess you've not been reading the right sources. Do you need me to post it? 1 Like |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Nobody: 5:57pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
kernel001: But you cannot empower institutions and build securities against theft when there are thieves in the institutions that will block every attempt to do so. For example, laws that will curb or reduce the excesses in government will not be passed when the beneficiaries are in power. They will fight it. Secondly, what has happened to all the monies pumped into federal schools or for the development of the country's respective constituencies? These thieves in government have been eating all the money. Prosecution of thieves is a preliminary and necessary step to build an economy in a unique state like Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Fixedgame7941: 6:13pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
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Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by streamsofjoy(f): 6:22pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
slawomir: Haba! So u believe that Kogi and Benue actually voted APC? |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by slawomir: 7:19pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
streamsofjoy:The thing tire me na |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Billionaire09: 7:48pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
SEONaijaExpert: What do you want to post if not to defend your pay masters?
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Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by SEONaijaExpert: 7:58pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
Billionaire09:Your opinion is practically irrelevant |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by omohayek: 9:55pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
grandstar:And therein lies Nigeria's tragedy - the only serious alternative to a sickly old statist President was a notorious crook who bought his nomination and then gathered even more notorious crooks like Saraki around him. If Buhari had the minimal level of wisdom to know when to delegate policy to others, that would be one thing, but he insists on calling the major shots despite having no clue what he's doing! I wonder why Buhari doesn't apply the same approach towards relying on experts when treating his mystery illnesses, instead of flying out to London for several months at a time. Surely the economic health of an entire nation is worth far more than the health of a single old man, but Buhari prefers to take chances with the Nigerian economy by engaging in the sort of uninformed dabbling he would never dare when it comes to his own medical treatment. 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by omohayek: 10:02pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
DanXplore:You mix cause and effect. While prosecution of thieves is good to have, the best way to prevent people from stealing is to remove the opportunity in the first place - by deregulating and downsizing the public sector to the maximum extent possible. It is a lot harder to steal with impunity from a private corporation - whose owners will waste no time prosecuting wayward employees vigorously - than it is to embezzle huge sums from a parastatal which is only accountable to a few politicians, especially when one can always pull the "Leave our son/daughter alone!" tribal card if anybody starts asking difficult questions. Nigeria's rampant corruption can be traced directly to the sheer size and scope of government at all levels. Nobody who fails to acknowledge this can be taken seriously as "fighting corruption", as the only way to really bring it down sustainably is to fix the systemic causes, instead of carrying out spurts of selective prosecution of a few top crooks while leaving the vast majority of smaller thieves alone. Buhari's approach has exactly zero chance of working in the long term. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Nobody: 10:27pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
omohayek: I agree with all you've said but you are still missing the basic point. You mentioned deregulating and downsizing the public sector which appears to be good but you fail to take into account the process through which it could be made possible. We have three arms of government, each with a direct or indirect stake in the decisions of the executive. Will these thieves allow the passage of bills for the deregulation of the electricity distribution sector in Nigeria for instance? You also suggested down sizng the government workforce and I ask again, will the Law Makers who are the prime beneficiaries of the prevailing corrupt systems approve such an idea? It is not a case of mixing cause and effect. The damage has been done and the effect appears to be cascading to infinity. The effect of having a weak constitution is the presence of corruption in the arms of government. The only way to effectively strengthen the mandate of the constitution is by reducing impunity to the barest minimum. How could this be done? It is by showing the citizenry that no one, absolutely no one, is above the law. I agree that the fight appears to be selective. But I consider it a starting point in the fight against corruption. Do your research properly. All the countries performing well are brutal against criminals. They have a relatively good justice system that administers appropriate punishment to offenders. 1 Like |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by SheikhMuniru(m): 10:40pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
Donmedra: So Shall It Be Inshal Allah, In Jesus Name |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by omohayek: 10:50pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
DanXplore:This is nonsense; you completely ignore the fact that Nigeria has witnessed deregulation and privatization in several aspects of the economy over the last 25 years, despite having a political class at least as corrupt as the current ones in Abuja. How did NITEL and NEPA get privatized if what you say is true? All you're doing here is making excuses for Buhari's utter lack of vision and his complete failure to understand even basic economics. I agree that the fight appears to be selective. But I consider it a starting point in the fight against corruption. Do your research properly. All the countries performing well are brutal against criminals. They have a relatively good justice system that administers appropriate punishment to offenders.I have done my research, over many, many years, covering not just historical case studies, but careful econometric studies of what factors encourage and reduce corruption: it is because of those studies that I know Buhari's current "anti corruption fight" is doomed to fail, just as his "War Against Indiscipline" failed, just as Murtala's own "anti corruption" efforts failed, and just as other such schemes by the likes of Jerry Rawlings have always failed when tried elsewhere. The only sustainable way to truly reduce corruption is to eliminate the opportunities for it to occur. Abolish import bans and smuggling collapses, along with incentives to bribe customs officials; eliminate multiple exchange rates and float the Naira, and suddenly nobody can get rich quick through "round tripping" scams; eliminate pointless red tape and make any other registration work electronic, and now civil servants can no longer hold ordinary people to ransom by refusing to do their jobs without receiving "dash". All of these sorts of things were perfectly within Buhari's power to carry out over the last 4 years, but he has made no serious effort in such directions, no doubt because his understanding is stuck on the same low level as you've displayed here. Countries like Denmark, Switzerland, New Zealand and Canada don't need or have "brutal", draconian laws of the sort you desire, yet they are at the top of any objective rankings of corruption-free places, well ahead of "brutal" places like China, which remains rife with corruption despite handing out death sentences for it like garri. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Nobody: 11:57pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
omohayek:And what has been the result of the privatization? Why did the government opt for the sale of NITEL and NEPA? Why wasn's NNPC sold? These are the questions a rational mind should ask.This is nonsense; you completely ignore the fact that Nigeria has witnessed deregulation and privatization in several aspects of the economy over the last 25 years, despite having a political class at least as corrupt as the current ones in Abuja. All you're doing here is making excuses for Buhari's utter lack of vision and his complete failure to understand even basic economics.No i am not. My preferred candidate has always been Donald Duke. By this unnecessary accusation, i am beginning to think that you are just angry because your chances of benefiting from PDP's corruption blueprint has been checkmated by PMB's re-emergence. I have done my research, over many, many years, covering not just historical case studies, but careful econometric studies of what factors encourage and reduce corruption: it is because of those studies that I know Buhari's current "anti corruption fight" is doomed to fail, just as his "War Against Indiscipline" failed, just as Murtala's own "anti corruption" efforts failed, and just as other such schemes by the likes of Jerry Rawlings have always failed when tried elsewhere.I am not impressed by your studies. You did not need to mention it. But I am sure you know that the social sciences are inexact in nature because they are built on probability distributions. A case with a high probability of occurrence could likely be true but could be the total opposite and that is why common sense, which you clearly lack, must be employed in employing its principles. The methods employed by the people you mentioned might have failed in their dispensation, but is working perfectly well in China therefore, your conclusion about the anti corruption fight by the government is fallacious. What i think the government should do is to identify the reasons why the anti corruption fights in these mens era failed and make amends accordingly. [s]The only sustainable way to truly reduce corruption is to eliminate the opportunities for it to occur. Abolish import bans and smuggling collapses, along with incentives to bribe customs officials; eliminate multiple exchange rates and float the Naira, and suddenly nobody can get rich quick through "round tripping" scams; eliminate pointless red tape and make any other registration work electronic, and now civil servants can no longer hold ordinary people to ransom by refusing to do their jobs without receiving "dash". [/s]To me, this is perhaps the most disappointing and illogical of all the garbage you posted. It is a case of 'building the body without the foundation'. While i agree that embargoes be lifted on the ban on certain items, i think it is quite silly of you to suggest that all items be let loose. How will Nigeria sustain the needed economic growth with a negative trade balance? I think it is wise to place embargoes on items that could be produced locally, in similitude of what was done by India. It will provide jobs for the people on the grass-root level and at the same time lower the demand for foreign items. Once there is a reduction in demand for foreign goods, there will be reduction in demand for foreign currency. This is how the Naira will strengthen and not by that poo you posted up there but again, there are several macroeconomic factors that might come into play if we are to look at the peculiarities of the Nigerian climate. I will re-iterate this to you again that the widespread corruption by custom officers as well as other public officers is as a result of lawlessness. hold All of these sorts of things were perfectly within Buhari's power to carry out over the last 4 years, but he has made no serious effort in such directions, no doubt because his understanding is stuck on the same low level as you've displayed here.I hope that by now you would have realised who the shallow one is. "brutal", draconian laws of the sort you desire, yet they are at the top of any objective rankings of corruption-free places, well ahead of "brutal" places like China, which remains rife with corruption despite handing out death sentences for it like garri.You took my use of the word "brutal" out of context. It does not in any way suggest inhumane approaches to discipline but rather, a strict enforcement justice. Don't just use metaphors out of a quest for opportunities to use them. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by otosa(m): 11:58pm On Feb 27, 2019 |
Restructuring |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by bionixs: 12:18am On Feb 28, 2019 |
sexybaby22:please,all the uneducated graduates on nairaland who think that their grandfather who doesn't know who is who,will give them a good future in 21century, should help us answer the question |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by bionixs: 12:21am On Feb 28, 2019 |
SEONaijaExpert:going by your dream,you have malaria with typhoid,YOU are running high temperature and should stop drinking. when did they say that or what your empty mind without direction. |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by bionixs: 12:28am On Feb 28, 2019 |
DanXplore:don't let me curse you because it will affect you.so after all the highway and backlight robbery the world witnessed last Saturday,you still said what you say? spit |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Nobody: 12:32am On Feb 28, 2019 |
bionixs: Hey man, there was rigging and everyone knows that. Are you saying that only APC is guilty? Even PDP and those other mushroom parties that were brave enough rigged. PDP is only angry because APC used the political advantage they had to overpower them. I spit back at you 'teew' 1 Like |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by LordAdam16: 4:09am On Feb 28, 2019 |
omohayek: Really?! Still spending valuable time doing this. Leave them to their fate. Seriously, let them be. -Lord |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by bionixs: 7:52am On Feb 28, 2019 |
DanXplore:if it is so,why not cancel the entire election sighting massive rigging as it not transparent. As you so support mischief, you shall seen most of it in your career this 4 hears |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Slynation(m): 8:36am On Feb 28, 2019 |
SEONaijaExpert: Anyway, I have nothing else to say, i just hope what your expectations and thoughts on this present regime turns out positive... |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by SEONaijaExpert: 8:39am On Feb 28, 2019 |
Slynation:Absolutely, it's best we remain hopeful and positive. We can't move forward expecting evils to happen somehow somewhere. I believe in this administration and that's my strength. 1 Like |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Slynation(m): 8:52am On Feb 28, 2019 |
SEONaijaExpert:I hope so, but nEXt LeVEl of killings just began I don't have anything to say for now, lemme be observing |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Nobody: 9:02am On Feb 28, 2019 |
bionixs: Lol. As you support thief. So shall all your savings be stolen. |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by bionixs: 9:35am On Feb 28, 2019 |
DanXplore:give me the thief and let him take my savings. |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Billionaire09: 10:19am On Feb 28, 2019 |
SEONaijaExpert: So is yours. |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by litaninja(m): 10:20am On Feb 28, 2019 |
Lol. You can't have future tense as a list of achievements sir. Also, I don't recall posting a disapproval either. Simply pointed out a fact. SEONaijaExpert: |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by Nobody: 7:21am On Mar 01, 2019 |
BENARI:What an hypocrite. Makes u dull and annoying. Can you tone down this rhetoric of hate please. If indeed the pigs in your words, are the pained ones, then your message isn't reflecting your joy of victory, rather it reflects anger as if you are the loser here. If messages like yours and the likes from all sides continue to pour out here unabated, Rwanda is closer than we may think. When a war begins, the outcome is far from precise. The Hutus who started the genocide because they were majority ended up not having tasted power at the center since the end of the genocide. The Americans with all thier might are now negotiating with the Taliban in Afghanistan after 17 years of brutal war with ragtag group. This message is to all without reserve. I also call on the managers of this platform like I've done before to do something about this every increasing danger on its platform. You will along with other media platforms and the negligent government also have blood on your hands when this pregnancy is finally delivered Someone like you is supposed to be tied to a poll and beat the number of votes the thief u voted for got.. Cipy copy hypocrites |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by SEONaijaExpert: 7:42am On Mar 01, 2019 |
litaninja:Whatever you claimed to have pointed was practically irrelevant. I already highlighted at random your so-called fact, my comment once again was not meant to contain a list of achievements of this administration and I think an educated person would spot the difference. 1 Like |
Re: Next Level: What Do You Want From This Administration? by BENARI: 8:46am On Mar 01, 2019 |
TheGreenLand: Good job! I see you're more matured than your initial post suggested. You may have taken my post which you quoted out of context, but that not withstanding, my message to you and all earlier should not be discarded on the basis of my "misguided" posted. I was no scent either. Lives WILL, not MIGHT someday be lost to our hate post here on Nairaland and some other similar platforms. |
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