Kreamie:
Like I said in the DM and I’ll say it here again. I tried mediating between both parties till you brought it here for everyone to air their opinion concerning the matter and then I decided to take a back seat and watch events unfold. I even went ahead to post the issue on a group you willingly left for unbiased opinions. You went ahead to call me names which I took with a pinch of salt.

I’m not a magician who’d wave a wand and make everything ok. These are grown men we’re dealing with here. All I can do is try. Please don’t make this about me.

Thank you.

sirlop:

I was not the one that received the item. I was busy working on site. I hardly reach my office anytime am occupied with site work. My secretary received it and complained about the NTT and color of the screen. I told her not to worry that I bought it as NTT. I bought a phone with NTT, but functional screen. The girl noticed the screen was malfunctioning the same day the phone got to her. Moreover the phone only stayed 5 days in my possession. Everyone I reported this incident told him to reach out to me. He first claimed time had passed, when he saw that excuse wasn’t working, he brought up another excuse that I was rude. When he annoyed me with his response. Buying a phone without tt isn’t an offense. The phone was fixed with a low budget screen. Issues of screen malfunctioning are mostly noticed by end users. Are u pushing the blame to me? I have all my chats with him. This is my first and only transaction with Joe17 and he ended up scamming me.

sirlop:

U re making sense, but Joe17 didn’t even want to hear from me cos he obviously knows what he did. 5 days period is not much. He should have asked for the phone then examine it. The buyer brought the phone and we examined it and noticed it was the same way as she bought it.

sirlop:

You took a back seat indeed! U posted it on a group I left months ago because of ur biased nature. Y then did u not comment here being the moderator. This is utter waste of time. Ur dispute thread has outlived its usefulness. Let me see who else they will callout here.

Kreamie:
Good. Go sort your issue elsewhere and no dey buzz me by 4am ontop issue wey you fit sort out yourself. I’m sure there’s a reason people have decided not to say anything regarding this issue; I think it has a lot to do with your attitude and how you handle matters. Your “quick to call people names” type of approach has gotten you this far.

NB: it’s not “my” dispute thread.


Goodluck.

sirlop:


Good riddance. I don’t need ur help. Maintain ur lane pls. I have seen how far ur manners have taken u

bobo65:


I think we will need a screen shot of his response here..

Because from what you said, obviously he won't wanna hear you if he knew of the fault, help with a screenshot

sirlop:


Good riddance. I don’t need ur help. Maintain ur lane pls. I have seen how far ur manners have taken u

Kreamie:
Like I said in the DM and I’ll say it here again. I tried mediating between both parties till you brought it here for everyone to air their opinion concerning the matter and then I decided to take a back seat and watch events unfold. I even went ahead to post the issue on a group you willingly left for unbiased opinions. You went ahead to call me names which I took with a pinch of salt.

I’m not a magician who’d wave a wand and make everything ok. These are grown men we’re dealing with here. All I can do is try. Please don’t make this about me.

Thank you.

D4donnn:



Boss you and wildchild are the first persons I message when Kasala burst anytime , I've experienced first hand the issue that stems from a tlc of an iPhone 11 pro max without true tone , I've bought three from very respected members in this group and another only recently and I can confidently tell you all three had issues when they arrived , I was fortunate to have purchased it from deal hunters that are quite understanding oga frinx and bdemix who both agreed to assist me in mitigating my loss even frinx agreed to pay for a replacement screen when he wasn't even aware the phone didn't come with true tone initially.

I'll be frank , joe17 whenever there's an issue with regards a device you sold, the very first thing one expects from any seller is a listening ear and then a suggestion of how to address or resolve the issue not firstly who is to be held accountable or responsible for the particular issue , I've bought several deals with little issues , that I rarely ever disturb deal hunters about , sammuel okporua can bear witness .

Oga kreamie I'll implore you to look past the manner of each parties approach , the salient thing is to help them resolve the issue , most times we go out of character whenever we perceive things aren't going my way .

And I'm yet to see wildchild comment ,

5 days isn't too short for issues to be noticed, there are issues like panic full, that takes extensive usage before they are noticed.

My suggestion for both parties is to froth choose an engineer both of them trust , that would inspect and diagnose the cause of issue, then if it's water damage sirlop would cover the cost of repairs then if it's because of the poor quality of screen then joe17 you'll be the one to cover the cost . I think this way no one would feel hard done by .

Outrgightly saying since it's already past 5 days you can no longer accept the device, quite frankly isn't right. Remember these are used device and no one knows the history of the device, if the seller couldn't tell you it wasn't having true tone from the genesis , do you think he would share it with you ig the screen gets glitchy after extensive usage, let's all try to be considerate . 11 pro max screen no be moi moi .

I just remembered I've even bought two recently from my boss oga henrixx that he had to replace the screen for both devices, 240k loss , na God go save person .

sirlop:

Thanks. This is the most reasonable contribution here. Joe17 behaved like a fraudster. But it’s ok. I’ve replaced the screen for the girl. I actually checked the phone when she brought it. This phone in question stayed only 5 days in my possession. The phone got to me on the 30th, the girls friend picked up same day and delivered it to her on the 3rd. She started using it on the 4th cos she still had her phone. She complained on the same 4th and I told her to restart and retry. Her complaints became too much on the 5th and and I contacted Joe17 on the 5th (same day). He told me he was not going to do anything about it. He said Dazz01 picked it up like that and I’ve had it for 1 week. He is aware of when I got the phone from our chat. He sent the phone on the 28th with YSG logistics and it got to me on the 30th. I even chatted him up on the 29th telling him I haven’t gotten the phone. Moreover 5 days isn’t too much. I was trying to explain to him that some problems are best experienced by end user. He was of the opinion that I checked it when I got it, which I didn’t. I only instructed my secretary to do some checks, she complained it had no truetone and the display wasn’t looking original. I told her to give to the Girls friend that I got the device from someone I believe was trusted though my perception of JOE17 has changed since then. That’s y I only buy from very few people. I’ve bought from Mendy, wildchild01, pradit etc and when I experienced any issue within the warranty period, they either replaced or fixed the device. This is my first and last transaction with JOE17. I can’t transact with someone that only knows how to collect money and fails to handle any problem that comes up after receiving payment. He gave so many excuses. When he saw time duration wasn’t working, he came up with the excuse that I insulted him, when he annoyed me. The most annoying thing is that I reported to Kreamie and some people and they were scared of speaking up here. When Kreamie mentioned my manner of approach was what made him not to get involved on the thread, I lost the little respect I had for him. What happened to me will happen to anyone anytime any day on same forum. I’ve lost over 13 million on this forum. 130k won’t kill me. I’ve moved on, but anytime I see JOE17, he must pay me.

D4donnn:



Boss you and wildchild are the first persons I message when Kasala burst anytime , I've experienced first hand the issue that stems from a tlc of an iPhone 11 pro max without true tone , I've bought three from very respected members in this group and another only recently and I can confidently tell you all three had issues when they arrived , I was fortunate to have purchased it from deal hunters that are quite understanding oga frinx and bdemix who both agreed to assist me in mitigating my loss even frinx agreed to pay for a replacement screen when he wasn't even aware the phone didn't come with true tone initially.

I'll be frank , joe17 whenever there's an issue with regards a device you sold, the very first thing one expects from any seller is a listening ear and then a suggestion of how to address or resolve the issue not firstly who is to be held accountable or responsible for the particular issue , I've bought several deals with little issues , that I rarely ever disturb deal hunters about , sammuel okporua can bear witness .

Oga kreamie I'll implore you to look past the manner of each parties approach , the salient thing is to help them resolve the issue , most times we go out of character whenever we perceive things aren't going my way .

And I'm yet to see wildchild comment ,

5 days isn't too short for issues to be noticed, there are issues like panic full, that takes extensive usage before they are noticed.

My suggestion for both parties is to froth choose an engineer both of them trust , that would inspect and diagnose the cause of issue, then if it's water damage sirlop would cover the cost of repairs then if it's because of the poor quality of screen then joe17 you'll be the one to cover the cost . I think this way no one would feel hard done by .

Outrgightly saying since it's already past 5 days you can no longer accept the device, quite frankly isn't right. Remember these are used device and no one knows the history of the device, if the seller couldn't tell you it wasn't having true tone from the genesis , do you think he would share it with you ig the screen gets glitchy after extensive usage, let's all try to be considerate . 11 pro max screen no be moi moi .

I just remembered I've even bought two recently from my boss oga henrixx that he had to replace the screen for both devices, 240k loss , na God go save person .

Kreamie:
I’ll address this one last time. When you brought the issue my way, did I not try to mediate? Until you chose to take it to the dispute thread and I decided to allow people wey wise pass me sort out the issue.

We really need to work on how we address ourselves on here as no one is anyone’s boy here neither is anyone paid to make sure disputes are settled amicably. We’re only trying to be each other’s keeper. That being said, I told Joe17 to try to see what he could do about having the phone fixed and he complained about how he was addressed hence keeping mute about the whole matter. He even sent me a voice note sirlop sent to him calling him names and what not.

Also saying people chose not to comment on this issue out of fear? Lol. See what I mean about addressing issues? Bros, try to keep your outbursts in check as it only portrays you in bad light to whoever you’re dealing with.

D4donnn:



Boss you and wildchild are the first persons I message when Kasala burst anytime , I've experienced first hand the issue that stems from a tlc of an iPhone 11 pro max without true tone , I've bought three from very respected members in this group and another only recently and I can confidently tell you all three had issues when they arrived , I was fortunate to have purchased it from deal hunters that are quite understanding oga frinx and bdemix who both agreed to assist me in mitigating my loss even frinx agreed to pay for a replacement screen when he wasn't even aware the phone didn't come with true tone initially.

I'll be frank , joe17 whenever there's an issue with regards a device you sold, the very first thing one expects from any seller is a listening ear and then a suggestion of how to address or resolve the issue not firstly who is to be held accountable or responsible for the particular issue , I've bought several deals with little issues , that I rarely ever disturb deal hunters about , sammuel okporua can bear witness .

Oga kreamie I'll implore you to look past the manner of each parties approach , the salient thing is to help them resolve the issue , most times we go out of character whenever we perceive things aren't going my way .

And I'm yet to see wildchild comment ,

5 days isn't too short for issues to be noticed, there are issues like panic full, that takes extensive usage before they are noticed.

My suggestion for both parties is to froth choose an engineer both of them trust , that would inspect and diagnose the cause of issue, then if it's water damage sirlop would cover the cost of repairs then if it's because of the poor quality of screen then joe17 you'll be the one to cover the cost . I think this way no one would feel hard done by .

Outrgightly saying since it's already past 5 days you can no longer accept the device, quite frankly isn't right. Remember these are used device and no one knows the history of the device, if the seller couldn't tell you it wasn't having true tone from the genesis , do you think he would share it with you ig the screen gets glitchy after extensive usage, let's all try to be considerate . 11 pro max screen no be moi moi .

I just remembered I've even bought two recently from my boss oga henrixx that he had to replace the screen for both devices, 240k loss , na God go save person .

D4donnn:



Boss you and wildchild are the first persons I message when Kasala burst anytime , I've experienced first hand the issue that stems from a tlc of an iPhone 11 pro max without true tone , I've bought three from very respected members in this group and another only recently and I can confidently tell you all three had issues when they arrived , I was fortunate to have purchased it from deal hunters that are quite understanding oga frinx and bdemix who both agreed to assist me in mitigating my loss even frinx agreed to pay for a replacement screen when he wasn't even aware the phone didn't come with true tone initially.

I'll be frank , joe17 whenever there's an issue with regards a device you sold, the very first thing one expects from any seller is a listening ear and then a suggestion of how to address or resolve the issue not firstly who is to be held accountable or responsible for the particular issue , I've bought several deals with little issues , that I rarely ever disturb deal hunters about , sammuel okporua can bear witness .

Oga kreamie I'll implore you to look past the manner of each parties approach , the salient thing is to help them resolve the issue , most times we go out of character whenever we perceive things aren't going my way .

And I'm yet to see wildchild comment ,

5 days isn't too short for issues to be noticed, there are issues like panic full, that takes extensive usage before they are noticed.

My suggestion for both parties is to froth choose an engineer both of them trust , that would inspect and diagnose the cause of issue, then if it's water damage sirlop would cover the cost of repairs then if it's because of the poor quality of screen then joe17 you'll be the one to cover the cost . I think this way no one would feel hard done by .

Outrgightly saying since it's already past 5 days you can no longer accept the device, quite frankly isn't right. Remember these are used device and no one knows the history of the device, if the seller couldn't tell you it wasn't having true tone from the genesis , do you think he would share it with you ig the screen gets glitchy after extensive usage, let's all try to be considerate . 11 pro max screen no be moi moi .

I just remembered I've even bought two recently from my boss oga henrixx that he had to replace the screen for both devices, 240k loss , na God go save person .

D4donnn:



Boss you and wildchild are the first persons I message when Kasala burst anytime , I've experienced first hand the issue that stems from a tlc of an iPhone 11 pro max without true tone , I've bought three from very respected members in this group and another only recently and I can confidently tell you all three had issues when they arrived , I was fortunate to have purchased it from deal hunters that are quite understanding oga frinx and bdemix who both agreed to assist me in mitigating my loss even frinx agreed to pay for a replacement screen when he wasn't even aware the phone didn't come with true tone initially.

I'll be frank , joe17 whenever there's an issue with regards a device you sold, the very first thing one expects from any seller is a listening ear and then a suggestion of how to address or resolve the issue not firstly who is to be held accountable or responsible for the particular issue , I've bought several deals with little issues , that I rarely ever disturb deal hunters about , sammuel okporua can bear witness .

Oga kreamie I'll implore you to look past the manner of each parties approach , the salient thing is to help them resolve the issue , most times we go out of character whenever we perceive things aren't going my way .

And I'm yet to see wildchild comment ,

5 days isn't too short for issues to be noticed, there are issues like panic full, that takes extensive usage before they are noticed.

My suggestion for both parties is to froth choose an engineer both of them trust , that would inspect and diagnose the cause of issue, then if it's water damage sirlop would cover the cost of repairs then if it's because of the poor quality of screen then joe17 you'll be the one to cover the cost . I think this way no one would feel hard done by .

Outrgightly saying since it's already past 5 days you can no longer accept the device, quite frankly isn't right. Remember these are used device and no one knows the history of the device, if the seller couldn't tell you it wasn't having true tone from the genesis , do you think he would share it with you ig the screen gets glitchy after extensive usage, let's all try to be considerate . 11 pro max screen no be moi moi .

I just remembered I've even bought two recently from my boss oga henrixx that he had to replace the screen for both devices, 240k loss , na God go save person .

Bayokun:


Do you think Kreamie can resolve this issue unless both parties are ready to shift ground and reach a compromise? You can't win a case by fighting and insulting everybody nah

Secondly, Most people kept mute because of the way oga sirlop was throwing tantrums up an down. I would rather be an onlooker than been caught up in an unnecessary fight

sirlop:

U call it unnecessary fight?
Do you know what he told me?
Are u justifying what he did?
I contacted people initially, but he was giving series of excuses. What else would I have done?

Ehisod:
Hi everyone,

Please I need to raise a dispute though it did not originate from the pickup threads, it is from the technology market section on the following thread https://www.nairaland.com/6653741/order-goods-amazon-ebay-today. I contacted Mannyman to assist in purchasing iPhones from eBay after seeing his thread where he offers to buy items on eBay, Amazon, etc, though I had not transacted with him before now I was not too skeptical because I had done similar transactions with Mayoral who provides similar services here on Nairaland. I paid him for 4 iPhone X 64GB on September 8, 2021, and to date, he has only delivered one phone. I have asked him to refund the unused balance of 400,000 if he cannot make the purchases for me but as I write this, he has cut off communication with me no calls, and lately no WhatsApp.
Please see there is any assistance the members of this thread can render to assist me to recover my money or get my orders from Mannyman. Thanks.


Attention Mods:
Kreamie
Mixter
Ammyluv2002
Bobo65
Omicpet
Wildchild
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chelseamann:
Can you help us to share proofs of your claim?
Screenshots, etc

bobo65:


After you paid him, did he send you any screenshot of successful Payment?

Ehisod:
Some screenshots of whatsapp conversations between us where he has only made one purchase so far and my last attempts to reach him.

bobo65:


Baba since Sept 19
You paid someone for check out and he bought one out of four and you just letting ppl know?

Well let me believe you trusted him well, but next time, it shouldnt be more than 3 days, I buy on eBay steady, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't finish your purchase in 3 days after you paid him.

I'm really sorry about your loss.

If anyone has information on the said ebay check out guy, pls whatsapp any of the mods here

Ehisod:
Some screenshots of whatsapp conversations between us where he has only made one purchase so far and my last attempts to reach him.

Ehisod:
Hi everyone,

Please I need to raise a dispute though it did not originate from the pickup threads, it is from the technology market section on the following thread https://www.nairaland.com/6653741/order-goods-amazon-ebay-today. I contacted Mannyman to assist in purchasing iPhones from eBay after seeing his thread where he offers to buy items on eBay, Amazon, etc, though I had not transacted with him before now I was not too skeptical because I had done similar transactions with Mayoral who provides similar services here on Nairaland. I paid him for 4 iPhone X 64GB on September 8, 2021, and to date, he has only delivered one phone. I have asked him to refund the unused balance of 400,000 if he cannot make the purchases for me but as I write this, he has cut off communication with me no calls, and lately no WhatsApp.
Please see there is any assistance the members of this thread can render to assist me to recover my money or get my orders from Mannyman. Thanks.


Attention Mods:
Kreamie
Mixter
Ammyluv2002
Bobo65
Omicpet
Wildchild
Nicerazor
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EFCCgbenga:

Send his acc number

Onyeka90210:

Omo, that 425 rate is looking sus, you said he delivered one, you can contact the dispatch to disclose his location. If it doesn’t work you can go and report his account for fraud with GTbank, with enough proof.

HyDef:


0245114867
Wema Bank
The name is Mayor Folawiyo Muse, though he also seems to go by Azeez Muse.

Both me and the other guy (efetabore) paid into this account.