iClef:


Take it easy. We go through a lot on this forum. Haters call us scammers for no reason. I have never scammed anyone and never will.

But guess what? Just because I sell a certain book I wrote for 20k, someone called me a scammer. He chases my clients away by telling them I'm a fraud, yet he refused to show evidence. I have vowed to get him arrested and he's being tracked as I speak.

Any new person who probably don't know me before now will think I'm a scammer. Isn't tarnishing one's reputation a crime?

With that behavior alone, I no longer reply PMs from Nairanlanders because any day you don't reply their messages after the first chat, they'll come to Nairaland to call you a fraud just to ruin your business because you didn't reply immediately.

Even on WhatsApp, when people send me a message about KDP business and how they want to learn, we decline. You don't know who is coming just so they can attack you later for no reason. The screenshot below will show you an example of how I decline people just to stay safe.

So, the purpose of this long reply is to let you know the OP has a reason for declining to reveal. Even if he reveals, a lot of people will still not do it.

When something is a secret, everyone wants to know, but the moment you reveal it, they say, "Mtcheew. So, this is the nonsense you've been hiding?"

The OP is 100% right for declining. Me wey dey form Mr. Helping Machine, look at how they are paying me back with evil for my good. Is it good? I no longer reveal as I used to neither do I try to help as I used to.

At last I got someone to help me explain better. Thank You Sir

mustydeen:





You have even trained someone in Paris, that means you have capacity to train more

He makes 73k a week.

Thats almost 300k a month.

He just started business this January.


Should have made 1.6m without expenses.


He is frugal with spending, lives in one room selfcon

Should have 1m in savings.

But he needs to invest 500k to boost business �

Now, youv trained someone in Paris, is okay



The head wey go collect knock, even if e enter bus, him go still shoot head through window to collect am.

No matter the red flags I point out, mumu ppl go still get scammed.

Good luck with your business

Please point to where I mentioned that "I need 500k" to invest. I want is clearly different from I need. You are just attacking me...trying to form I holy pass even when you are wrong. You are just giving yourself unnecessary headache even when I have no plan of talking to anybody about what I do.

I have an uncle who can give me enough money but I am the type who love to be independent so don't think am from a poor home.

And na ur type go dey use different monicker to dey send PM.

iClef:


No. They were articles I posted here on NL for free, but the abuse was much, so they were turned to a book and sold. Now it's no longer free. I guess we appreciate things when they are neither free nor cheap.

Modified:

What the OP is talking about is probably book writing business and publishing on Amazon. It's the only business that'll make you such money in no time when you understand how it works.

If you doubt, read this post: https://www.nairaland.com/5301916/

After reading, use Google and do your research.

I hope he can understand you sha

behindthasmile:
At last I got someone to help me explain better. Thank You Sir

From your post, I knew the business you were talking about and I also know why you didn't want to reveal. Anyway, all the best.

Sadly, I have exposed it to them already.

1 book has made me 80k so far this month. See update about it here https://www.nairaland.com/5355535/

lilyheaven:

Men with 40k monthly salary are getting married, this one with 200+ is asking too
Hmmm

u dey mind am....shebi dose dat read about marriage on paper will advice him

iClef:


From your post, I knew the business you were talking about and I also know why you didn't want to reveal. Anyway, all the best.

Sadly, I have exposed it to them already.

1 book has made me 80k so far this month.

lol... There was a guy I met in a bank one day, I thought him everything and some opportunities...days later, he said, "guy, I don't know its that easy na." I was like, you didn't value it because I gave you free of charge. May God help us.


MODIFIED:

So you're iLegend? I used to skip your posts o... From the title, I will just swerve without clicking. Wow!!! Keep winning bro.

#GoLegit!!

behindthasmile:
Please point to where I mentioned that "I need 500k" to invest. I want is clearly different from I need. You are just attacking me...trying to form I holy pass even when you are wrong. You are just giving yourself unnecessary headache even when I have no plan of talking to anybody about what I do.

I have an uncle who can give me enough money but I am the type who love to be independent so don't think am from a poor home.

And na ur type go dey use different monicker to dey send PM.

Forget marriage. Marriage without money is the reason poverty and crime is high. You see lazy men churning out children as if it's a competition and in the end, they don't have the money to cater for them.

Dating doesn't require money, but marriage does require money and planning.

I hate when civil servants who earn 60k or 80k litter the environment with children. Also, I hate seeing children suffer.

An African man is all about marriage marriage marriage. Then children, children, children. Please, OP, don't be pressured into marriage. I make more than you, yet I'm single. No one can push me, so don't let anyone push you into any stupid marriage all in the name of age.

African men are all about "go to school, get a job, get married, and populate the world with lots of children."

You'll never see an African tell you to invent something or focus on a digital business that'll help the universe. All we know is to pressure people into marriage and giving us lots of grandchildren. Backward mentality.

realest2:
what a stingy and wicked bastard!!

Haba!! guy na by force?

behindthasmile:
lol... There was a guy I met in a bank one day, I thought him everything and some opportunities...days later, he said, "guy, I don't know its that easy na." I was like, you didn't value it because I gave you free of charge. May God help us.


MODIFIED:

So you're iLegend? I used to skip your posts o... From the title, I will just swerve without clicking. Wow!!! Keep winning bro.

#GoLegit!!

Hahahaha. How did you know?

People wey dey skip my post dey miss. I no longer post or reveal as I used to back in 2016 — 2018. I no longer help or reply for free sef. Everything is monetized. My free days are over. I have learned my lessons. People don't value free things. In fact, they won't even take action when it's free.

You're making a decent amount of money but truth be told, you haven't gotten enough to start a family.

I know some would point out how some family live on 30/50k per month but ask yourself, is that the same life you wanna live. I guess not.

You could find yourself a decent girl and have a good relationship life, marriage is a different world entirely. I strongly advise you refused to be rushed.

Single at 32 ain't bad. 2years of dating some girl ain't bad. Getting married at 35 is still a go. Save more and plan ahead.

behindthasmile:
I wanna say a very big thank you to all us of you who contributed and gave me advice. And also to all the FBI agents that think I am here to scam people...lol

I AM DEACTIVATING this account now because I keep receiving PMs and I don't want to help anybody out of pity.

PLEASE, I WILL NEVER CONTACT ANYBODY as per this thread or online business.

Nice to meet you iClef

Thanks everyone and to my FBI guy, "mustydeen" if you are truly clean and fraud free, pls continue to safe everyone here but in a mature way. Love you bro.

I am DEACTIVATING my account so please people can stop sending PM.

On the last note, this is a GENUINE post with NO aim of scamming people.

Good night and happy weekend!!!

why haven't you deactivated yet?

At OP, even though you've deactivated, I know you'll come back to read comments anonymously. So, I'll drop you another advice.

Don't get married until you read this https://www.nairaland.com/5309552/men-stupid-women-ingrates-must

Also, don't get married until you read Joe Clef's dating books for men. They are not free, but they'll change your life. Start by reading the free versions. Download them here https://www.nairaland.com/5259717/

All the best in your pursuit of happiness.

Good morning famz... I want to go straight to the point. I'm a 32 years old man who dropped out of University in 2 year due to some issues with my admission. Since then, I made some research and was able to find a paying stuff on the internet which has since been paying my bills.

Now for the past few months, my mom has been disturbing to get married. I told her that am not in any relationship but she would not listen to me. She said I don't look serious.

I make just $210 every week (about 73k) or more "some times" but nothing less. So in a month, I make nothing less than 280k.I'm a light spender cos I don't drink, smoke or party. And I started earning this amount this year February.

Now my question is, can I get married even with this low income?

And lemme add this; I live in a room self contained apartment (somewhere in SW not Lagos).

I want married men and women with experience to pls advice me.

God bless you all





cc: lalasticlala

Abeg which business be dt

@ Op, please i beg yu in the name of whatever yu serve, i am interested in the online stuff... Thanks.. Oyebisiolawal@gmail.com

Island01:

You don't want to share how you're making your money but want advice... you're not just stingy but wicked.. the business you're doing now didn't someone put you through.... get the fuckkk out of here
Ewu

Why must he share his business to anyone.?

So y'all can over saturate it , overflood the market and kill it abi?

Nah! Kolewerk!

Op, behindethasmile don't reveal bagga! To no one! I repeat don't reveal Nada! As in don't reveal tweenn! To anyone if you dont want to kiss that marriage plans and successful future goodbye.

Instead of people to use their brains and think outside the box, una wan drown his biz.

Typical of Nigerians. Always overflooding any new business skill.

Have said my own.

Goodnight!

Sunnymatey:
My brother, in as much as marriage is good.

I ll advice you invest ur money to secure ur future.
Plead with ur mum to pls allow u get one or two investment in place before doing her bidding.

Buy landed property and ensure u secure them. (As many as possible). Develope one or two before u consider taking that bold step.

Pls, kindly help a brother.
I ll love to learn ur kind of online business.
My whattapp contact is on my signature.
We can discuss futher if u dont mind.

jokinexcel:
May we know the online business you are into?

ifygirl101:
Op pls help me out with this online business.we can reach an agreement i can pay you some money from my earnings every month.chat me on WhatsApp on 09033267284

aprilwise:
We are age mate .
Don't wait until you started earning millions before u marry. I'm interested in investing in your line of business. Thanks

Island01:

You don't want to share how you're making your money but want advice... you're not just stingy but wicked.. the business you're doing now didn't someone put you through.... get the fuckkk out of here
Ewu

as in eh na the business I dey after.
marriage can go and sit down

victorian:








Why must he share his business to anyone.?

So y'all can over saturate it , overflood the market and kill it abi?

Nah! Kolewerk!

Op, behindethasmile don't reveal bagga! To no one! I repeat don't reveal Nada! As in don't reveal tweenn! To anyone if you dont want to kiss that marriage plans and successful future goodbye.

Instead of people to use their brains and think outside the box, una wan drown his biz.

Typical of Nigerians. Always overflooding any new business skill.

Have said my own.

Goodnight!

I sure say u don pm the guy

I never see the kind of stingy nigga like this in my life. My 2 friends pm him since yesterday, d big head no gree reply. I sent too, he no still reply. Him come deactivate because ppl dey suspect say na scam thread. Na so you wan take manage woman for marriage? U better forget marriage cos u no fit mentally.

You guys are abusing him just because he doesn't want to reveal. These are the same people who abuse me for revealing. Wetin Nigerians really want? Everyone has an entitlement mentality.

Keep a secret and they'll want to know the secret. When you finally reveal it, they'll laugh and say it's too hard and switch over to watching porn, BB Naija, Telemundo, or football.

Abi I lie? (No reply is needed — just answer it to yourself).

iClef:
You guys are abusing him just because he doesn't want to reveal. These are the same people who abuse me for revealing. Wetin Nigerians really want? Everyone has an entitlement mentality.

Keep a secret and they'll want to know the secret. When you finally reveal it, they'll laugh and say it's too hard and switch over to watching porn, BB Naija, Telemundo, or football.

Abi I lie? (No reply is needed — just answer it to yourself).

I trust him the first time I saw the thread but he should have consider us who believed in him. There was a guy who was making legit money online where I was living before, everybody thought he was a kidnapper because he might travel for a month and return. He was a very gentle guy so there was this retired principal who petioned SARS and EFCC. The guy was released third day EFCC picked him up. His mom came and started cursing until then we knew someone petitioned EFCC and all he was doing was opened to us all. He was living in a room self con too..i think those making legit money don't like spending lavishly. The guy has moved abroad now. So I trust him. In fact, op is even a learner where d guy dey o. I just pray op can consider us

Bleep

PlayForFun:
I trust him the first time I saw the thread but he should have consider us who believed in him. There was a guy who was making legit money online where I was living before, everybody thought he was a kidnapper because he might travel for a month and return. He was a very gentle guy so there was this retired principal who petioned SARS and EFCC. The guy was released third day EFCC picked him up. His mom came and started cursing until then we knew someone petitioned EFCC and all he was doing was opened to us all. He was living in a room self con too..i think those making legit money don't like spending lavishly. The guy has moved abroad now. So I trust him. In fact, op is even a learner where d guy dey o. I just pray op can consider us

Na wao. Can you imagine the hate?

I have been working from home for the last five years. I ran away from the first house I rented somewhere in Egbeda because of similar issues. These days, I live in a place where people are much more exposed and can wrap their head around the fact that someone doesn't have to go to an office to make legitimate income.

victorian:








Why must he share his business to anyone.?

So y'all can over saturate it , overflood the market and kill it abi?

Nah! Kolewerk!

Op, behindethasmile don't reveal bagga! To no one! I repeat don't reveal Nada! As in don't reveal tweenn! To anyone if you dont want to kiss that marriage plans and successful future goodbye.

Instead of people to use their brains and think outside the box, una wan drown his biz.

Typical of Nigerians. Always overflooding any new business skill.

Have said my own.

Goodnight!

Good morning n happy Sunday

PlayForFun:
I never see the kind of stingy nigga like this in my life. My 2 friends pm him since yesterday, d big head no gree reply. I sent too, he no still reply. Him come deactivate because ppl dey suspect say na scam thread. Na so you wan take manage woman for marriage? U better forget marriage cos u no fit mentally.

lol

NUJABEZ:
...

I like your 50 million per month idea. I have also been on my 50 million per month project since June with 50 computers. Read about it here https://www.nairaland.com/5264515/

DateMynd44:

I sure say u don pm the guy

Lol for your mind


I have a new man, I'm madly in love with. In fact a public figure, like moi.
And his fame In the entertainment industry bad gaann pass my own.

So shut it! I'm not interested in the op

Island01:

Good morning n happy Sunday

Good afternoon, happy Sunday to you.

victorian:







Lol for your mind


I have a new man, I'm madly in love with. In fact a public figure, like moi.
And his fame In the entertainment industry bad gaann pass my own.

So shut it! I'm not interested in the op

a public figure like u?
lol u and ur new man's popularity both end on nairaland .
I hope three years later u won't come on nairaland to post that he has ditch u after being served

victorian:








Good afternoon, happy Sunday to you.

hope you're having a nice day

DateMynd44:
a public figure like u?
lol u and ur new man's popularity both end on nairaland .
I hope three years later u won't come on nairaland to post that he has ditch u after being served

Don't worry, I won't deliberate why I'm a public figure. You go know soon.

Anyways He's not on nairaland.

My people contacted his people and a new friendship has started


Anyways my PA contacted his Manager, for a private meet up between us and viola!

The rest is history and He's all mine