Janosky:

Johnw FRAUD,
Shebi, your " Those few Roman soldiers" you are from your village?
Which kain "truth" you think say you know wey you dey post?

now say that in english without your confusion, if possible
and no run run run run runaway

Janosky:

Johnw FRAUD,
Shebi, your " Those few Roman soldiers" you are from your village?
Which kain "truth" you think say you know wey you dey post?

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

your confused babble is just another method you use to run away from the truth

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

run run run run runaway, scaredey cat

Janosky:

The scriptures said:
** Yahweh born the mountains.
JWs agree.
But, you go form your own interpretation.

***The scriptures said Yahweh born Israel. JWs agree.
But, you go form your own interpretation.

*** The scriptures say God born Jesus.
JWs agree.
But you go form your own interpretation.

Yahweh "BORN" means Yahweh CREATE.

Receive sense .
Omo, you go even form your own definition of fraud..... Lol.

It's obvious you are confused, your argument does not have direction.

Let me be clear on my argument. my argument is that Jesus is the literal son of God who was born by God.


You lie when you say JW agree that God born Jesus, because that has been the bone of contention in this argument.


Am not surprised I don't expect you sheepie to deviate from your programming.

Janosky:

The scriptures said:
** Yahweh born the mountains.
JWs agree.
But, you go form your own interpretation.

***The scriptures said Yahweh born Israel. JWs agree.
But, you go form your own interpretation.

*** The scriptures say God born Jesus.
JWs agree.
But you go form your own interpretation.

Yahweh "BORN" means Yahweh CREATE.

Receive sense .
Omo, you go even form your own definition of fraud..... Lol.

You are really naive.

Whether born or create both has same meaning per dictionary definition.
What is important is that Jesus is the literal son of God and not an Angel as you fraud JW claim.

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created ; creating
Definition of create (Entry 1 of 2)
transitive verb
1 : to bring into existence
// … God created the heaven and the earth.
— Genesis 1:1 (King James Version)
2a : to invest with a new form, office, or rank
// She was created a lieutenant.
b : to produce or bring about by a course of action or
behavior
// Her arrival created a terrible fuss.
// create new jobs
3 : CAUSE , OCCASION
// Famine creates high food prices.
4a : to produce through imaginative skill
// create a painting
b : DESIGN
// creates dresses
intransitive verb
1 : to make or bring into existence something new
// an artist who is good at imitating but not at creating
2 : to set up a scoring opportunity in basketball
// create off the dribble
create adjective
Definition of create (Entry 2 of 2)
archaic
: CREATED
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beget, breed, bring, bring about , bring on , catalyze,
cause , do, draw on , effect, effectuate, engender,
generate, induce , invoke , make, occasion , produce,
prompt , result (in) , spawn , translate (into) , work , yield
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// Several new government programs were created while
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bomb
// The machine creates a lot of noise.
// It can be hard to create a balance between work and
family.
// She creates a friendly and welcoming atmosphere for
her guests.
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the product.
// I've been creating music for over 30 years.
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Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmm

Well what brought all those 8,500,000 people from different nations under the heavens together as one big happy family of peace loving worshippers is the CONVICTION that WE ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the one and only group meeting up with all that is required to serve as God's organization in this end time!

So the only thing critics like you can do to change the mind of honest hearted observers is just to PRESENT a better performing group that's meeting up with the expectations of God's modern day worshippers!

Apart from that, you will continue to argue amongst yourselves and none of all these religious groups of yours will stand as a BODY to figure out how to work for Jesus as an organized group just as the first century Christians UNITEDLY did back then under the supervision and direction of the Apostles who were serving as the GOVERNING BODY back then!

We don't need to figure out anything or how to work for Jesus

We are already doing the work, look at the impact this thread has and many more websites that are advocating for the truth of our Lord Jesus.

That what pleases God, not having millions of members who are been deceived.

blueAgent:


We don't need to figure out anything or how to work for Jesus

We are already doing the work, look at the impact this thread has and many more websites that are advocating for the truth of our Lord Jesus.

That what pleases God, not having millions of members who are been deceived.

Of course there are countless threads on NL (religious section), and there are thousands of forums on the internet. But you and i know for sure that it's not all those claiming they're working for God that are truly for God! Matthew 7:21-23

That's why Jesus said "by this ALL WILL KNOW that you're my disciples if you have love amongst yourselves" John 13:34-35

This means Jesus' followers during the end time will be IDENTIFIED by a notable quality,as they're unitedly doing something together as ONE body! John 17:20-23

What you're now saying is Jesus' followers and their works has been mixed up in all these ongoing confusion so that they can't be singled out as one big body just as he promised!

So you're now saying that both JEHOVAH, Jesus Christ with the power of holy spirit can't ORGANIZE people as one notable spiritual family for pure worship in this end time? Matthew

My friend you are the deceived one! 2Corinthians 4:4

Emusan:
See the way you're talking about these scholars as if you regard them or their work when you're only using them as bare face to defend your lies.



Hypocrite JWs!
So you belief there are actually RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS...

1. So why did you take the unscholarlly NWT over the RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS?

2. Who among the translator of NWT is more understanding in Greek or Hebrew more than these RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS?

3. What is the position of these RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS on verse like John 1:1, Colossians 1:15-18, Colossians 2:9 Rev 3:14 e.t.c



If you take them to be right here, why did you reject their other works of the scriptureHypocrite...

That's why I do say JWs are very hypocritical in nature...



What do you Janosky stand to gain by accepting only this from these Trinitarians yet rejected other numerous works of the scripture from these same RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS

if not because you choose to accept whatever favour you from them and discard what doesn't favour just as you and your evil organisation do to the scripture.

Hypocrite JWs

That's how your evil organisation was busy using Scholar Metzger as a cover up not until he came out to shut them down and even have to write about errors in your demonic NWT.

Only a demonic person will ask this "Do you, BlueAgent understand Greek or Hebrew language more than renowned Bible Scholars Westcott and Hort and numerous Trinitarian Bible scholars"

When he himself follows and put his entire salvation in the hands of men (GB) who couldn't match these RENOWNED BIBLE SCHOLARS in Greek or Hebrew....

Let's turn the question around:
Do you, Janosky or anyone among the GB understand Greek or Hebrew language more than renowned Bible Scholars Westcott and Hort and numerous Trinitarian Bible scholars?

I Concur .

blueAgent:




You are really naive.

Whether born or create both has same meaning per dictionary definition.
What is important is that Jesus is the literal son of God and not an Angel as you fraud JW claim.

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Definition of create (Entry 1 of 2)
transitive verb
1 : to bring into existence
// … God created the heaven and the earth.
— Genesis 1:1 (King James Version)
2a : to invest with a new form, office, or rank
// She was created a lieutenant.
b : to produce or bring about by a course of action or
behavior
// Her arrival created a terrible fuss.
// create new jobs
3 : CAUSE , OCCASION
// Famine creates high food prices.
4a : to produce through imaginative skill
// create a painting
b : DESIGN
// creates dresses
intransitive verb
1 : to make or bring into existence something new
// an artist who is good at imitating but not at creating
2 : to set up a scoring opportunity in basketball
// create off the dribble
create adjective
Definition of create (Entry 2 of 2)
archaic
: CREATED
Synonyms
More Example Sentences
Learn More about create
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Synonyms for create
Synonyms: Verb
beget, breed, bring, bring about , bring on , catalyze,
cause , do, draw on , effect, effectuate, engender,
generate, induce , invoke , make, occasion , produce,

The definition/thesaurus you posted have successfully made a mockery of your fictitious claim about Jesus birth.
What you , BlueAgent is doing amounts to foolishly looking for the difference between six and half dozen.

** Malachi 3:1.
Keep deceiving yourself.

blueAgent:



It's obvious you are confused, your argument does not have direction.

Let me be clear on my argument. my argument is that Jesus is the literal son of God who was born by God.


You lie when you say JW agree that GOD BORN JESUS, because that has been the bone of contention in this argument.


.

The mountains were born by God.
JWs agree GOD BORN JESUS.
JWs agree GOD BORN Israel.
The biblical meaning remains the same.
Or perhaps,you didn't COME OUT of your parents.
You lack humility to accept the truth.

Emusan:



Only a demonic person will ask this "Do you, BlueAgent understand Greek or Hebrew language more than renowned Bible Scholars Westcott and Hort and numerous Trinitarian Bible scholars"



Let's turn the question around:
Do you, Janosky or anyone among the GB understand Greek or Hebrew language more than renowned Bible Scholars Westcott and Hort and numerous Trinitarian Bible scholars?

Emusan is asking the questions "Only a demonic person will ask"
PROOF: Emusan hypocrite is a VERY DEMONIC PERSON.
Your own mouth dey condemn you...
Shame on you.

Janosky:


Emusan is asking the questions "Only a demonic person will ask"
PROOF: Emusan hypocrite is a VERY DEMONIC PERSON.
Your own mouth dey condemn you...
Shame on you.

The case has been settled by Jesus himself!

In the first century when Jesus was teaching the people, he was using the same scripture that the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and all other Rabbis claims they're using.

All these religious groups weren't in agreement on the applications of the scriptures, yet when Jesus began his own teaching they all formed alliance and unanimously opposed him with fury saying "this demon possessed man is teaching HERESY" John 10:20

After Jesus' execution, resurrection and ascension to heaven, all other existing rival groups in Judah agreed to continue criticising, antagonising, persecuting even exterminating the one and only group (Christians)

Please who is behind such conspiracy?

Jesus answered saying "they belong to Satan" John 8:44

Jesus foretold that Satan will still do the same in the future regarding his new group! Matthew 13:24-30

But true Christians will be ORGANIZED as one body so that all honest hearted observers can IDENTIFY them! Matthew 5:14-16

What will be the NOTABLE quality sincere observers should watch out for? Jesus answered "My true followers will have LOVE amongst themselves" John 13:34-35

So all these arguments over who knows better is unwarranted.

Let them continue to argue amongst themselves, Jehovah's Witnesses have solved the problem all world leaders have been battling for thousands of years.
No human leader or group succeeded in uniting people from different races under the heavens as one big family, they initiated the OLYMPIC, WORLD CUP, BEAUTY CONTEXT and many other ideas just to unite people from all nations. But they failed woefully because God's holy spirit is not behind them.

So if Jehovah's Witnesses could solve the problem after carefully reading, thoroughly studying and prayerfully meditating on the scriptures, some people who can't even unite under one umbrella (in the same Church) now formed alliance to criticise the interpretations of the JWs, there is just one thing that will continue to give them headache "PRESENT BETTER TEACHERS OF GOD'S WORD" the Bible said "God is LOVE" let the spirit that's translating the Bible for them work out the predominant quality of God (LOVE) amongst them!

Janosky:

The mountains were born by God.
JWs agree GOD BORN JESUS.
JWs agree GOD BORN Israel.
The biblical meaning remains the same.
Or perhaps,you didn't COME OUT of your parents.
You lack humility to accept the truth.

That's while people dislike JW because they can lie a lot.

according to your word you say JW agree that God born Jesus as well as Israel.

Can you please list 5 things that distinguish Jesus from Israel and other sons of God?

Maximus69:


Of course there are countless threads on NL (religious section), and there are thousands of forums on the internet. But you and i know for sure that it's not all those claiming they're working for God that are truly for God! Matthew 7:21-23

That's why Jesus said "by this ALL WILL KNOW that you're my disciples if you have love amongst yourselves" John 13:34-35

This means Jesus' followers during the end time will be IDENTIFIED by a notable quality,as they're unitedly doing something together as ONE body! John 17:20-23

What you're now saying is Jesus' followers and their works has been mixed up in all these ongoing confusion so that they can't be singled out as one big body just as he promised!

So you're now saying that both JEHOVAH, Jesus Christ with the power of holy spirit can't ORGANIZE people as one notable spiritual family for pure worship in this end time? Matthew

My friend you are the deceived one! 2Corinthians 4:4

Let me show you what an
end time church would do and look like.

Mark 16:17-18 King James Version (KJV)
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name
shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly
thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick,
and they shall recover.

Deuteronomy 18:22.
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing
follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD
hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it
presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.


Based on this facts and evidence your Church is not qualified to be called God end time church, rather it is a false one that gives false prophecy.

Janosky:


The definition/thesaurus you posted have successfully made a mockery of your fictitious claim about Jesus birth.
What you , BlueAgent is doing amounts to foolishly looking for the difference between six and half dozen.

** Malachi 3:1.
Keep deceiving yourself.

Clown.
It's obvious English is not even your 4th language you seem not to understand what Synonyms are.

I just exposed your fraud, that the word create can still be translated or mean to born, breed,bear,beget which means Jesus can still be a created(born) being and still be the literal son of God.

But you sheepie would not learn to think for yourself, you only depend on a false prophet who claimed he was called by God.

Maximus69:


Of course there are countless threads on NL (religious section), and there are thousands of forums on the internet. But you and i know for sure that it's not all those claiming they're working for God that are truly for God! Matthew 7:21-23

That's why Jesus said "by this ALL WILL KNOW that you're my disciples if you have love amongst yourselves" John 13:34-35

This means Jesus' followers during the end time will be IDENTIFIED by a notable quality,as they're unitedly doing something together as ONE body! John 17:20-23

What you're now saying is Jesus' followers and their works has been mixed up in all these ongoing confusion so that they can't be singled out as one big body just as he promised!

So you're now saying that both JEHOVAH, Jesus Christ with the power of holy spirit can't ORGANIZE people as one notable spiritual family for pure worship in this end time? Matthew

My friend you are the deceived one! 2Corinthians 4:4

Here are the Hallmarks of a false Church and prophet.
Remember Deut. 18:22 , "If what a prophet proclaims in the
name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a
message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken
presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." If someone makes
a false prophecy and they have claimed to be a prophet of
God, then they are false prophets and are not to be listened
to. Do the Witnesses claim to be the prophet of God? Yes,
they do.
In 1972 the Jehovah's Witness Watchtower claimed to be the
prophet of God.
IDENTIFYING THE "PROPHET" --"So does Jehovah have a
prophet to help them, to warn them of dangers and to
declare things to come? These questions can be answered
in the affirmative. Who is this prophet? . . . This "prophet"
was not one man, but was a body of men and women. It
was the small group of footstep followers of Jesus Christ,
known at that time as International Bible Students. Today
they are known as Jehovah's Christian Witnesses . . . Of
course, it is easy to say that this group acts as a 'prophet'
of God. It is another thing to prove it," (Watchtower, Apr.
1, 1972, p. 197). (See Deut. 18:21 .)
1897 "Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since
October 1874," ( Studies in the Scriptures , vol. 4, p. 621).
1899 " . . . the 'battle of the great day of God
Almighty' ( Revelation 16:14 ), which will end in A.D. 1914
with the complete overthrow of earth's present rulership, is
already commenced," (The Time Is at Hand , 1908 edition, p.
101).
1916 "The Bible chronology herein presented shows that the
six great 1000 year days beginning with Adam are ended,
and that the great 7th Day, the 1000 years of Christ's Reign,
began in 1873," (The Time Is at Hand , forward, p. ii).
1918 "Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will
mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful
prophets of old, particularly those named by the Apostle in
Hebrews 11, to the condition of human perfection," ( Millions
Now Living Will Never Die, p. 89).
1922 "The date 1925 is even more distinctly indicated by
the Scriptures than 1914," (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1922, p.
262).
1923 "Our thought is, that 1925 is definitely settled by the
Scriptures. As to Noah, the Christian now has much more
upon which to base his faith than Noah had upon which to
base his faith in a coming deluge," ( Watchtower, Apr. 1,
1923, p. 106).
1925 "The year 1925 is here. With great expectation
Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have
confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ
will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may
be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God
will accomplish his purposes concerning his people.
Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what
may transpire this year," ( Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1925, p. 3).
1925 "It is to be expected that Satan will try to inject into
the minds of the consecrated, the thought that 1925 should
see an end to the work," ( Watchtower, Sept., 1925, p. 262).
1926 "Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925,
but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the
friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that
when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to
throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232).
1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part
of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years
1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a
time . . . and they also learned to quit fixing
dates," (Vindication, p. 338).
1941 "Receiving the gift, the marching children clasped it to
them, not a toy or plaything for idle pleasure, but the Lord's
provided instrument for most effective work in the remaining
months before Armageddon," (Watchtower , Sept. 15, 1941,
p. 288).
1968 "True, there have been those in times past who
predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific
date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They
were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? .
. . Missing from such people were God's truths and
evidence that he was using and guiding them," ( Awake, Oct.
8, 1968).
1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" ( Watchtower,
Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).
A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is
so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the
Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change
also?
A true prophet of God won't err in prophesying. Only a false
prophet does. The Jehovah's Witness organization, that
claims to be a prophet of God, is really a false prophet. Jesus
warned us by saying, "For false Christs and false prophets will
appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even
the elect--if that were possible" (Matt. 24:24 ).





You guys were never called by God, not even flashing talk less of calling, wakeup from your long sleep and smell the coffee.

Maximus69:


Of course there are countless threads on NL (religious section), and there are thousands of forums on the internet. But you and i know for sure that it's not all those claiming they're working for God that are truly for God! Matthew 7:21-23

That's why Jesus said "by this ALL WILL KNOW that you're my disciples if you have love amongst yourselves" John 13:34-35

This means Jesus' followers during the end time will be IDENTIFIED by a notable quality,as they're unitedly doing something together as ONE body! John 17:20-23

What you're now saying is Jesus' followers and their works has been mixed up in all these ongoing confusion so that they can't be singled out as one big body just as he promised!

So you're now saying that both JEHOVAH, Jesus Christ with the power of holy spirit can't ORGANIZE people as one notable spiritual family for pure worship in this end time? Matthew

My friend you are the deceived one! 2Corinthians 4:4

2 Peter 1:21 ESV / 13 helpful votes
For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but
men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy
Spirit.

2 Peter 1:20 ESV
Knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes
from someone's own interpretation.

This Bible verse was written because of false prophets like JW founder.

1 John 4:1 ESV /
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see
whether they are from God, for many false prophets have
gone out into the world.

2 Timothy 3:16 ESV
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for
teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in
righteousness,

Matthew 7:15 ESV /
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's
clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Maximus69:


Of course there are countless threads on NL (religious section), and there are thousands of forums on the internet. But you and i know for sure that it's not all those claiming they're working for God that are truly for God! Matthew 7:21-23

That's why Jesus said "by this ALL WILL KNOW that you're my disciples if you have love amongst yourselves" John 13:34-35

This means Jesus' followers during the end time will be IDENTIFIED by a notable quality,as they're unitedly doing something together as ONE body! John 17:20-23

What you're now saying is Jesus' followers and their works has been mixed up in all these ongoing confusion so that they can't be singled out as one big body just as he promised!

So you're now saying that both JEHOVAH, Jesus Christ with the power of holy spirit can't ORGANIZE people as one notable spiritual family for pure worship in this end time? Matthew

My friend you are the deceived one! 2Corinthians 4:4

This is what true end time Church and prophet will be like.

Prophets are not popular, because they speak what is right,
not what is popular. It's in the Bible, Isaiah 30:10, NIV. "They
say to the seers, 'See no more visions!' and to the prophets,
'Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant
things, prophesy illusions.'"

How can we recognize a true prophet? Their predictions will
occur as predicted. It’s in the Bible, Jeremiah 28:9, NKJV. “As
for the prophet who prophesies of peace, when the word of the
prophet comes to pass, the prophet will be known as one
whom the LORD has truly sent.”


Why did God send prophets? To guide his people in the right
way. It’s in the Bible, 2 Chronicles 24:19, NKJV. “Yet He sent
prophets to them, to bring them back to the LORD; and they
testified against them, but they would not listen.”

We can expect prophets in the last days of earth’s history.
It’s in the Bible, Joel 2:28, NKJV. “And it shall come to pass
afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons
and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream
dreams, Your young men shall see visions.”


God’s last day church will obey God’s commandments and
have the testimony of Jesus. It’s in the Bible, Revelation
12:17, NKJV. “And the dragon was enraged with the woman,
and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who
keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of
Jesus Christ”


What is the “testimony of Jesus Christ?” It’s in the Bible,
Revelation 19:10, NKJV. “And I fell at his feet to worship him.
But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your
fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of
Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of
prophecy.”


Don’t listen to prophets that speak against the Bible. It’s in
the Bible, Isaiah 8:20, NKJV. “To the law and to the
testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is
because there is no light in them.”


We can't ignore all prophecies out of fear of false prophets -
we should test them. It's in the Bible, 1 Thessalonians
5:20-21, NKJV. “Do not despise prophecies. Test all things;
hold fast what is good”

Maximus69:


Of course there are countless threads on NL (religious section), and there are thousands of forums on the internet. But you and i know for sure that it's not all those claiming they're working for God that are truly for God! Matthew 7:21-23

That's why Jesus said "by this ALL WILL KNOW that you're my disciples if you have love amongst yourselves" John 13:34-35

This means Jesus' followers during the end time will be IDENTIFIED by a notable quality,as they're unitedly doing something together as ONE body! John 17:20-23

What you're now saying is Jesus' followers and their works has been mixed up in all these ongoing confusion so that they can't be singled out as one big body just as he promised!

So you're now saying that both JEHOVAH, Jesus Christ with the power of holy spirit can't ORGANIZE people as one notable spiritual family for pure worship in this end time? Matthew

My friend you are the deceived one! 2Corinthians 4:4

The fact is, based on all the failed prophecies of your founder.


We can conclusively say that he was a big false prophet.


Forget about the population and happy family feel good feeling, what is important is that in the eyes of God he was a big fraud so also the Entire JW and their false doctrine.



2 Peter 1:21 ESV /
For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but
men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy
Spirit.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22 ESV /
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name
that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in
the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if
you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the
Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name
of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true,
that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has
spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

Say to those who prophesy out of their own imagination :
[They deceitfully say] Hear the word of the Lord! [But,] This
is what the Sovereign Lord says [to them] :Woe to the foolish
prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing!


Their visions are false and their divinations a lie . They say,
The Lord declares, when the Lord has not sent them; yet
they expect their words to be fulfilled. Have you not seen
false visions and uttered lying divinations when you say, The
Lord declares, though I have not spoken? " (Ezekiel 13:1-7 ,
insertions and italics mine)


With this 4 Bible verses I declare that the founder of JEHOVAH WITNESS (Charles Taze Russell) is a false prophet

blueAgent:



That's while people dislike JW because they can lie a lot.

according to your word you say JW agree that God born Jesus as well as Israel.

Deut 32:18
"You neglected the Rock who begot you, And
forgot the God who gave you birth.

1 John5:1.

Your case is beyond the scope of JWs or NL to resolve.

blueAgent:


Clown.
It's obvious English is not even your 4th language you seem not to understand what Synonyms.

I just exposed your fraud, that the word create can still be translated or mean to born, breed,bear,beget which means Jesus can still be a created(born) being and still be the literal son of God.

Which fraud ?
You wan deny Hebrew YALAD & QANAH ?
(Go back to threads 28/29.....)
In the words of blueAgent "Jesus can still be a CREATED (born) BEING and still be the literal son of God.

Omo, see confession ! '"CREATED BEING..."
Bros Blue, ekushe oooo !
I go buy 2 bottles of orijin for you.
Shey you dey like 'shacks'?

blueAgent:



With this 4 Bible verses I declare that the founder of JEHOVAH WITNESS (Charles Taze Russell) is a false prophet

Gross error !!
The origin of JEHOVAH WITNESSES predated
Charles Taze Russell.
Our Origin is from Jehovah ,the God of Abraham. Isaiah 42:10-12. Exodus 3:14,15.. Our Messiah, Jesus Christ, is a Jehovah's Witness. Acts 3:13. Matt 24:14. Mark 1:14,15.
If you wish to disagree. IT IS ALLOWED.

blueAgent:




The fact is, based on all the failed prophecies of your founder.


We can conclusively say that he was a big false prophet.


Forget about the population and happy family feel good feeling, what is important is that in the eyes of God he was a big fraud so also the Entire JW and their false doctrine.



2 Peter 1:21 ESV /
For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but
men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy
Spirit.

Deuteronomy 18:20-22 ESV /
But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name
that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in
the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.’ And if
you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the
Lord has not spoken?’— when a prophet speaks in the name
of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true,
that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has
spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

Say to those who prophesy out of their own imagination :
[They deceitfully say] Hear the word of the Lord! [But,] This
is what the Sovereign Lord says [to them] :Woe to the foolish
prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing!


Their visions are false and their divinations a lie . They say,
The Lord declares, when the Lord has not sent them; yet
they expect their words to be fulfilled. Have you not seen
false visions and uttered lying divinations when you say, The
Lord declares, though I have not spoken? " (Ezekiel 13:1-7 ,
insertions and italics mine)


With this 4 Bible verses I declare that the founder of JEHOVAH WITNESS (Charles Taze Russell) is a false prophet

Charles is NOT the founder otherwise it's just what he laid down from the start that the organization would have stand upon till now. Everyone knew quite well that almost everything Charles knew back then has been refined.!

So you've missed the target Sir.

Charles is just one of the students Jesus used to reinstall pure worship, and there is no way any imperfect student can perfectly get everything within a lifespan of just 70-80 years. That's why Jesus have been using others from where he stopped with Charles. The IDENTIFYING sign is that 'all those been used will be contributing little by little gradually to the success of pure worship until it's firmly established completely!READ
1Corinthians 13:9-10 compared with Proverbs 4:18

Just surrender my friend, you've found the one and only group Jesus is using in the end time.

So it's either you're in or you're out!

Janosky:

Johnw FRAUD,
Shebi, your " Those few Roman soldiers" you are from your village?
Which kain "truth" you think say you know wey you dey post?

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

Rev_1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

everyone alive will see Jesus when He returns, including they which pierced Him
which refers mainly to the jewish nation

now explaing in plain english your great confusion and unbelief about this verse, oh great run run run run runaway
and how it goes against russels false prophecies that i posted here, and how it goes against the other content of my posts here etc.etc.




or perhaps just run away again, scared little false jw

blueAgent:



"Some anticipated that the work would end in 1925,
but the Lord did not state so. The difficulty was that the
friends inflated their imaginations beyond reason; and that
when their imaginations burst asunder, they were inclined to
throw away everything," (Watchtower, p. 232).
1931 "There was a measure of disappointment on the part
of Jehovah's faithful ones on earth concerning the years
1917, 1918, and 1925, which disappointment lasted for a
time . . . and they also learned to quit fixing
dates," (Vindication, p. 338).


"True, there have been those in times past who
predicted an 'end to the world', even announcing a specific
date. Yet nothing happened. The 'end' did not come. They
were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? .
. . Missing from such people were God's truths and
evidence that he was using and guiding them," ( Awake, Oct.
8, 1968).
1968 "Why are you looking forward to 1975?" ( Watchtower,
Aug. 15, 1968, p. 494).
A JW might say that the organization is still learning. If that is
so, then how can they trust what they are taught now by the
Watchtower? Will what they are being taught now change
also?

In times past, Jehovah's servants offered animal sacrifices as part of their worship. Did that practice continue forever ?
Was the change wrong?

** Luke 19:11, Jesus followers believed that "THE KINGDOM OF GOD WILL APPEAR INSTANTLY"". Did it?
Jesus followers were false Christ's and false prophets nau....
They believed what Christ did not teach !
**
Christ kept teaching them what they thought they knew. **Luke 24:21,26-27,45.
They were human, made mistakes & were fallible. They learnt from their mistakes and moved on. So,did JWs ,we are not infallible. Acts1:6,7. Matt24:36.

If you are perfect, then cast the first stone,else you are a hypocrite.
Remove the rafter in your eyes before you can see the speck in JWs.

johnw47:



Rev_1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

everyone alive will see Jesus when He returns, including they which pierced Him
which refers mainly to the jewish nation


johnw47 :
johnw47 : Rev_1:7 the verse is not
talking off those few roman soldiers
who thrust a spear into His side and
nails into His feet and hands but is
talking of the jewish and roman
nations which pierced Him, they will
see Him as will all other eyes"

Today :
John FRAUD say na " the Jewish nation". "Including they which pierced him over 2000 years ago... Orishirishi something!

Yesterday:
John FRAUD "Rev_1:7 the verse is not talking off those few roman soldiers
who thrust a spear into His side and
nails into His feet and hand"

Tomorrow: Expect another conflicting version from Johnw FRAUD.

Janosky:


Today :
John FRAUD say na " the Jewish nation". "Including they which pierced him over 2000 years ago... Orishirishi something!

Yesterday:
John FRAUD "Rev_1:7 the verse is not talking off those few roman soldiers
who thrust a spear into His side and
nails into His feet and hand"

Tomorrow: Expect another conflicting version from Johnw FRAUD.

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

most duh and confused cannot stop lying mumu brain


johnw did not say today "Including they which pierced him over 2000 years ago"

johnw said today "everyone alive will see Jesus when He returns, including they which pierced Him
which refers mainly to the jewish nation

do you see it yet oh much blinded false jw, it's not those who pierced Him 2000 years ago that will see Jesus return, but the jewish people alive at his coming, and in fact all people alive at the time will see Him


2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.



now explaing in plain english runaway false jw, how all your lying and twisting and your great confusion and unbelief about this verse goes against russels false prophecies that i posted here, and how it goes against the other content of my posts here etc.etc.





Rev_1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

it's so simple, but not for the never ending twisted confusion of false jw mumu brain Janosky/OneJ

but actually your twisting of scripture and making God a liar is just another tactic you use to run away from the matters that you have no honest answer to

you a way heap big evil false jw lying scardie cat:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

johnw47:


johnw did not say today "Including they which pierced him over 2000 years ago"

johnw said today "everyone alive will see Jesus when He returns, including they which pierced Him
which refers mainly to the jewish nation

do you see it yet oh much blinded false jw, it's not those who pierced Him 2000 years ago that will see Jesus return, but the jewish people alive at his coming, and in fact all people alive at the time will see Him



Rev_1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Everyone reading your post with unbiased mind can truly see where your brain dey- Your anu.s !

Janosky:


Everyone reading your post with unbiased mind can truly see where your brain dey- Your anu.s !

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

see how you have no answer to the truth
just a foul mouth like your daddy

your removing the bolded from: "everyone alive", won't fool anyone, except other false jw's

*Malachi 3:1 "Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek will suddenly come to his temple, and the Angel of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he cometh, saith Jehovah of hosts."
** Jesus Christ is Jehovah's angel. Confirmento !

Janosky:

*Malachi 3:1
"Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall
prepare the way before me; and the Lord
whom ye seek will suddenly come to his
temple, and the Angel of the covenant,
whom ye delight in: behold, he cometh,
saith Jehovah of hosts."

** Jesus Christ is Jehovah's angel.
Confirmento !

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

now you are changing the subject, yet another tactic to once again run away from the truths
that you will not accept in earlier posts
again and again you are loving to make God a liar:

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:

*Malachi 3:1
"Behold, I send my messenger, and he shall
prepare the way before me; and the Lord
whom ye seek will suddenly come to his
temple, and the Angel of the covenant,
whom ye delight in: behold, he cometh,
saith Jehovah of hosts."

** Jesus Christ is Jehovah's angel.
Confirmento !

No matter how many scriptural proofs you point out to them, the TRINITY ideology that's been in the head of billions living and many dead will not allow them to think!

The Bible confirmed it several times that during the time God was directing the Israelites, Moses saw God face to face. Deuteronomy 34:10
But what is notable is the fact that a born again Christian (Apostle John) later wrote about seeing God, he made it clear that NO MAN HAVE SEEN GOD AT ANY POINT IN TIME! John 1: 18

If they're not confused, is that not clear enough that it was an angel that's been appearing as God's representative in Jehovah's name? Exodus 14:19, 33:20-21 compared to Leviticus 11:45

Now that John wrote "in the beginning WAS the word 'Jesus (Michael) has been with God from the start', and the word WAS with God he was with God working alongside him, and the word was a God he served as God in times past" John 1:1

Is it not clear enough that most of the things that those prophets pen down (in the Hebrew Scriptures [Old Testament]) before God's holy spirit anointed Christians like Apostle John wasn't clear to even those ancient writers themselves? Daniel 12:8-10

So Janosky my brother, just let them continue in their disbelief. If they were alive in the first century to read what Apostle John wrote concerning SEEING GOD FACE TO FACE, they'll never join the Christians! Because they will continue to argue that God can't allow his word to contradict itself. Whereas God inspired the writers of the Bible to help us(his end time worshippers) that "the light of truth keep getting brighter until it's made perfect".Proverbs 4:18

One thing that will ever continue to serve as a sign for false worshippers is seeing God in action in amidst imperfect humans who have been alienated from God so that they finds it had to have love amongst themselves, and now that LOVE is found amidst a global family from different races if they're backing on the mistakes of God's modern day worshippers, let them point to just one time in the same Bible when God used PERFECT men to direct his people or let them present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

Even a blind man can SEE that God (LOVE) is working in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses {John 13:34-35} therefore anything these unbelievers are saying to question the presence/fruit of God's holy spirit is null and void, says Apostle Paul! Galatians 5:22-23

Maximus69:


Even a blind man can SEE that God (LOVE) is working in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses {John 13:34-35} therefore anything these unbelievers are saying to question the presence/fruit of God's holy spirit is null and void, says Apostle Paul! Galatians 5:22-23

™paranoid false jw mad max

your delusion is only matched by your self righteousness

Maximus69 :




it will take at least SIX fully armed military police officers to subdue just one single military intelligence officer of my kind, if it's just one combatant soldier i will make him regret the very day he joined the force but if he's not into martial arts of any kind then i'll make him eat and drink through his anus!

Janosky:
Any allegation against JW gives you wet dreams.

Janosky:

Perversion of facts gives you erec.tions.

^^^ God (LOVE) is working in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses, laughing

the presence/fruit of God's holy spirit, ha ha ha, so deluded

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.