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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by salford1: 11:27pm On Sep 01, 2019
Beautyaddy:


Yes....that's the common trend now.

When people move back to Nigeria it's to the quiet cities like Ibadan, Akure and the likes.
Yes.
It's the trend nowadays.

https://moneywise.com/a/the-top-countries-retire-on-150000
Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by KuwaiitiDinar: 12:02am On Sep 02, 2019
planetx:
How can 383 million people be living in America and only 10 million are Americans, are you saying 373 million are immigrants. Where did you get this figure from? You said the census Bureau, no way that figure is possible.

Please log on to the census bureau if you have access to it, again take your time to study the 1865 agreement. When you are done and you seem not to understand why it is so, then chat me up I will willingly explain more

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by KuwaiitiDinar: 12:06am On Sep 02, 2019
AkataWoman:


And the welfare train is coming to an end for immigrants. I’m sure you’ve heard about that new immigration law.

Nigerians need to learn how to shut the Bleep up. America is good to you by even allowing you in-something we don’t have to do and are cutting down on. Then you come here and get arrested en masse for scamming, draining our welfare system. Just stop it already. Try living in your own country if it’s so great.
I seem not to understand what you are trying to explain, but whosoever you think I am... that is by the way, I am saying again that is is wrong for anyone to compare a functional society to a non functional society
Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by EgunMogaji2: 1:04am On Sep 02, 2019
orunmila144:
thats amazing. i am happy for you. have you tried the swift runner internet plug and play ? i hear it is unlimited high speed

Thanks I’ll check it out as I’m desperate grin

Using Spectranet now.

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by komodapson(m): 3:26am On Sep 02, 2019
I read some if your lies and it got to a point I couldn't take it. I'd to take some sleeping pills. £60k.. Wtf...what is % of over 60 million population earn this amount in UK? U claimed some of your folks numbering 20 work for JP Morgan....Even JP no fit boast of this staggering figure of his relatives 4d finance house....My bro.. Be aware heaven is real... I won't say more than that...

abbey621:


It's obvious you want to argue just for the sake of arguing. For professionals, 60,000 pounds is nothing but for commoners of course, even 20k is good enough. I've had jobs where I made less than 18k a year, I'm now at a job where I'm making over 100k per year after taxes. Don't expect anyone to give you anything just because you think you deserve it, you've got to upgrade yourself and go get it. Instead of living in lalaland where you believe jobs like 60,000 pounds belongs only to CEOs, you better increase your network and get rid of whatever is holding you back in life. 2 Masters, years of experience as a professional and a network as strong as 5 day old eba, my guy I would be crazy to earn less than 60,000 pounds a year!

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by komodapson(m): 3:36am On Sep 02, 2019
Oh...I'm in love with reggae music from Bob, lucky dube, peter tosh, beeni man e.t.c So majek went back after releasing that hit track? Oh no blimey...I never knew?... "Beggars on the street of NY"

To buttress this your point... A friend of mine just came back from Paris, after spending close to a year and he was marvelled. How he often give beggars money on street of Paris..being a Nigerian.... Lol

[ author=babaolofin post=81793096]

Well , I don't know how old most of the people reading this posting were when Majek Fashek as the rave of the moment in the 90s traveled to New York. When he got there he became disappointed that on returning to Nigeria, he released a record "Majek Fashek in New York". That record said so many things. He said before he travelled, he thought America is Paradise on Earth but on getting there what he saw was confusion, beggars and so many things. Having released that record he should not have gone back again, that was the mistake that ruined him.[/quote]

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by Nobody: 5:36am On Sep 02, 2019
EgunMogaji2:


Thanks I’ll check it out as I’m desperate grin

Using Spectranet now.

I don't know about Ibadan, but in lagos the fastest you will get is 6mb/s

Do not subscribe to an unlimited plan. The last time I checked, those are throttled to 300kb/s.i am on their 60gb plan.
Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by timesup234: 6:34am On Sep 02, 2019
komodapson:
I read some if your lies and it got to a point I couldn't take it. I'd to take some sleeping pills. £60k.. Wtf...what is % of over 60 million population earn this amount in UK? U claimed some of your folks numbering 20 work for JP Morgan....Even JP no fit boast of this staggering figure of his relatives 4d finance house....My bro.. Be aware heaven is real... I won't say more than that...

Just leave them to keep lying. They are scammers looking for people to steal their money. I read the rubbish and just laugh. JP Morgan my ass. The average salary in the UK is around 24k pounds. The % of people in UK making 60k is less than 15%.

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by oluayebenz: 9:21am On Sep 02, 2019
I need clarification here pls

I noticed recently Nigerian-British are also moving to Canada and Australia through express entry. I've seen 3 different people this last month alone that moved, mind you these people are Nigerian with British passport...

My questions:
Is there no more opportunities in the UK?
Is UK now having economic, security, poverty challenges ?
Is there no more 24hrs electricity, good roads and infrastructures in the Uk?

Or black man just get issues
Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by showbiz4all27(m): 10:36am On Sep 02, 2019
The bitter truth "they give you the illusion of inclusion ". The White British are the most " two faced " people ever. With their stiff upper lip and wax smile. The most cordial and courteous people. But nothing nice.

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by SIRTee15: 12:26pm On Sep 02, 2019
salford1:

Who no like that kind of retirement. Collect a 1st world passport, make lots of money in a first world country, retire in a cheap country where living on your 1st world pension is equivalent to living like a millionaire..when they catch ordinary malaria, they are on the next flight to their adopted 1st world country cheesy.
One of my older uncle just made the move from the UK to Ile-Ife.

I noticed....
There's a woman from uk now living in gambia talking thrash on you tube...
Saying uk is a shit hole n poverty stricken...
Encouraging diasporans to come back home, that she's living like a queen in gambia....
That Gambia is heaven..bla...bla...
I'm sure she has her British passport kept safe somewhere in case of emergency...
And she forgot to tell us she's surrounded by poverty in gambia with people living on less than 1 dollar a day....
Of course, she's making her money in pounds (or collecting benefits in pounds) n spending in a depreciated currency....
Who wouldn't enjoy in such scenarios....
Try making money in naira and spend in pounds...
Then u go know how far....

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by SIRTee15: 12:42pm On Sep 02, 2019
komodapson:
I read some if your lies and it got to a point I couldn't take it. I'd to take some sleeping pills. £60k.. Wtf...what is % of over 60 million population earn this amount in UK? U claimed some of your folks numbering 20 work for JP Morgan....Even JP no fit boast of this staggering figure of his relatives 4d finance house....My bro.. Be aware heaven is real... I won't say more than that...


50000 pounds earners is not a rarity in uk...
That's the starting salary of doctors in NHS and there are over 200 thousand of them....
Most IT guys earn that amount within 1-3 years of working and there over a million IT work force in the uk.....
Guys in the professional finance sector earn beyond that either as starters or as bonuses- over 2 million workforce....
Professionals in real estate earn such with commissions inclusive...
Skilled artisans hit that easily within a year....
Most of the above will hit 60 thousand pound at one point in their careers as they progress.....
So what's the big deal about this 60 thousand margin....
I know doctors that got 60 thousand pound offer right from naija as a middle grade doctor in NHS, not even consultant....

If u guyz are talking about tax, then I'll listen....
But uk like other European countries is a socialist economy....
So income tax will always be high...

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by salford1: 2:10pm On Sep 02, 2019
oluayebenz:
I need clarification here pls

I noticed recently Nigerian-British are also moving to Canada and Australia through express entry. I've seen 3 different people this last month alone that moved, mind you these people are Nigerian with British passport...

My questions:
Is there no more opportunities in the UK?
Is UK now having economic, security, poverty challenges ?
Is there no more 24hrs electricity, good roads and infrastructures in the Uk?

Or black man just get issues
Its not about being black. People move for jobs, schools, change of environment, leisure and for many other reasons. When I lived and worked in the UK, we had 3 Canadians in my office. One of my ex-classmate in the UK was Canadian and was paying international student fees for an education he could have paid home student fees for in Canada. Last time I visited thé UK which was this year, I identified a Canadian lady on a bus (she was wearing a raptors) cap. We started talking and I realised she has lived and has been working in the UK for a while.

There are several white British here too. One of my white ex co-worker and her husband from the UK just returned to England. They were iinitially in Australia for two years, then moved to Canada for another two years. I have visited a police station to request a report and was attended to by a white british cop. A white british lady works as a pharm assistant at one of the pharms my wife previouosly worked. One of my city's opthalmologist is white british. A white british mother and son with a northern accent were behind me at the store two days ago.

Canadians and Americans move to work between borders too. There are tons of Canadian nurses and Doctors working in the state. The pay is higher and career opportunities are limitless - The American dream. 3 of my friends (2 Engineers and a Internist) moved to the states between last year and this year.

As for me, I moved from the UK to Canada in 2012 for better opportunities in my field (I initially relocated to Nigeria to test the waters though. It wasnt my cup of tea). I used to hear about how well paying some occupations were in Oil rich western Canada. They were right except it was short lived due to the boom bust nature of the oil industry. I have since moved away from the oil industry to a more stable industry which still pays well.

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by oluayebenz: 2:24pm On Sep 02, 2019
salford1:

Its not about being black. People move for jobs, schools, change of environment, leisure and for many other reasons. When I lived and worked in the UK, we had 3 Canadians in my office. One of my ex-classmate in the UK was Canadian and was paying international student fees for an education he could have paid home student fees for in Canada. Last time I visited thé UK which was this year, I identified a Canadian lady on a bus (she was wearing a raptors) cap. We started talking and I realised she has lived and has been working in the UK for a while.

There are several white British here too. One of my white ex co-worker and her husband from the UK just returned to England. They were iinitially in Australia for two years, then moved to Canada for another two years. I have visited a police station to request a report and was attended to by a white british cop. A white british lady works as a pharm assistant at one of the pharms my wife previouosly worked. One of my city's orpthamologist is white british. A white british mother and son with a northern accent were behind me at the store two days ago.

Canadians and Americans move to work between borders too. There are tons of Canadian nurses and. Doctors working in the state. 3 of my friends (2 Engineers and an Internist) moved to the states between last year and this year.

As for me, I moved from the UK to Canada in 2012 for better opportunities in my field. I used to hear about how well paying some occupations were in Oil rich western Canada. They were right except it was short lived due to the boom bust nature of the oil industry. I have since moved away from the oil industry to a more stable industry which still pays well.

Well said brother

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by Fallenhunter: 3:08pm On Sep 02, 2019
https://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/nigerias-middle-class-how-we-live-and-what-we-want-from-life/12563/

According to this middle class Nigerians make between 75000-100,000 naira a month which is 228.42 pounds.

According to this website (https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Nigeria&country2=United+Kingdom) the cost of consumer goods is 100% higher in the uk so let's halve the average monthly income for a uk middle class person which is 3000£ a month (after tax) to 1500£ a month.

Thus middle class people in the uk still earn about 6.5 times more than they would earn in Nigeria. If you factor in rent and social life too then it's about 5 times.

The people telling you that they see middle class Nigerians making over 1 million a month are just plain lying.

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by Fallenhunter: 3:10pm On Sep 02, 2019
adonainana:


Mr man where did you see 60% from, the rate for tax for anyone earning £60,000 a year is 40%

40% of 60,000 is the equivalent of £2,000 a month

So who is wrong me or you

40% tax right ? Hence 60% is left over. So they pay 2000 in tax and take 3000 home each month

I made a mistake too, I assumed you meant 3000 a year not 3000 a month.
Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by Fallenhunter: 3:21pm On Sep 02, 2019
timesup234:
Another brainwashed millipede. Doctors are not rich they carry a debt burden of over $300,000 from medical school that they will spend the rest of their lives paying back. An average trader in Alaba will buy your doctor brother, his wife and children along with their dog and other pets, and tell the Mayor of his city to keep the change for his next summer vacation

Doctors earn between 120,000-400,000 $s a year. It would take a junior doctor 3 years to pay off their student loans, 6 if they save 50%.

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by Redman44(m): 5:53pm On Sep 02, 2019
Fallenhunter:
https://www.howwemadeitinafrica.com/nigerias-middle-class-how-we-live-and-what-we-want-from-life/12563/

According to this middle class Nigerians make between 75000-100,000 naira a month which is 228.42 pounds.

According to this website (https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Nigeria&country2=United+Kingdom) the cost of consumer goods is 100% higher in the uk so let's halve the average monthly income for a uk middle class person which is 3000£ a month (after tax) to 1500£ a month.

Thus middle class people in the uk still earn about 6.5 times more than they would earn in Nigeria. If you factor in rent and social life too then it's about 5 times.

The people telling you that they see middle class Nigerians making over 1 million a month are just plain lying.


Hasty Generalization, Fallen Hunter lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed. Hmn. Many middle Class Nigerians have various sources of income that they don't disclose to the public. Some of them run businesses alongside their normal jobs. They also own or inherited houses they rent out to tenants. Some also have farms in the village managed for them by relatives or siblings. Others import and sell things. Their wives manage Supermarkets and Small Stores for them. And they don't pay tax on many of these ventures. These things are hard to understand. You will be shocked how much people make in Nigeria secretly through legal or smuggling stuff into the country.

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by timesup234: 6:12pm On Sep 02, 2019
Fallenhunter:


Doctors earn between 120,000-400,000 $s a year. It would take a junior doctor 3 years to pay off their student loans, 6 if they save 50%.
They cant save more than 10% of their annual salary and their personal income tax is 40%. For the first five years after medical school doctors earn $50,000 annually. No hope
Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by timesup234: 6:15pm On Sep 02, 2019
Redman44:



Hasty Generalization, Fallen Hunter lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed. Hmn. Many middle Class Nigerians have various sources of income that they don't disclose to the public. Some of them run businesses alongside their normal jobs. They also own or inherited houses they rent out to tenants. Some also have farms in the village managed for them by relatives or siblings. Others import and sell things. Their wives manage Supermarkets and Small Stores for them. And they don't pay tax on many of these ventures. These things are hard to understand. You will be shocked how much people make in Nigeria secretly through legal or smuggling stuff into the country.
They dont know they are still there talking about minimum wage. An average Nigeria will build two to three houses in his lifetime

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by Fallenhunter: 4:58am On Sep 03, 2019
Redman44:



Hasty Generalization, Fallen Hunter lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed. Hmn. Many middle Class Nigerians have various sources of income that they don't disclose to the public. Some of them run businesses alongside their normal jobs. They also own or inherited houses they rent out to tenants. Some also have farms in the village managed for them by relatives or siblings. Others import and sell things. Their wives manage Supermarkets and Small Stores for them. And they don't pay tax on many of these ventures. These things are hard to understand. You will be shocked how much people make in Nigeria secretly through legal or smuggling stuff into the country.

I know about the side hustles, of course there are, I've seen people juggle two or three side hustles at once but you still don't go from making 100k in your job to 1 million in your side hustle. If that was the case why not quit your job ? Most people make an additional 100-200 on side hustles and the money being earnt by their wives or relatives shouldn't count as theirs because in the uk your wife and relatives have their own job too thus brining in additional money. We're only looking at the money earnt by individuals to compare apples to apples.
Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by Impulse80(m): 6:24am On Sep 03, 2019
You guys just don't get it. It's about peace of mind. Every day we live in fear in this country.

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by timesup234: 6:32am On Sep 03, 2019
Impulse80:
You guys just don't get it. It's about peace of mind. Every day we live in fear in this country.
You are the one living in fear not millions of people who cant wait for a new day to dawn so they can go about their business. Only jobless people live in fear in Nigeria

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by Impulse80(m): 6:38am On Sep 03, 2019
timesup234:
You are the one living in fear not millions of people who cant wait for a new day to dawn so they can go about their business. Only jobless people live in fear in Nigeria

Lol, There's no way you are not Pidgin2. Delusional fellow. Wait make my money complete make I leave Nigeria for una.

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by odimbannamdi(m): 7:52am On Sep 03, 2019
ahiboilandgas:
.i get u points ...there is no perfect place but in Nigeria you can't even enjoy the wealth .I practically can't drive from kaduna to abuja cos of kidnapping , I have been runing gen for 12 hours daily despite living in my house worth over 100 k pounds,my Neigbour bought his house for 150k pounds and has one he'll of noisey generator that any time it on I have to lock all my windows to sleep ...i sank a bole worth 750k naira just to have water, I mark around 700 k monthly but u can't even enjoy the wealth ....the last time we hard duel scarcity we suffered

Sir, why not consider going solar?

A 1m investment in solar generation will take you off PHCN grid for life.

Think about it

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by Passionate1(m): 9:19am On Sep 03, 2019
NONNYG:
Statistician, i wonder where you're getting all these figures fromgrin
He's mentally challenged. .

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by timesup234: 11:05am On Sep 03, 2019
A slave blind to the trillions of wealth around him. I thought Nigeria was hopeless, how coming you are close to complete your money in a hopeless land? You folks are nuisance without any productivity capability. Completely brainwashed by Western media propaganda of the dead American dream than never even existed
Impulse80:


Lol, There's no way you are not Pidgin2. Delusional fellow. Wait make my money complete make I leave Nigeria for una.

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by abbey621(m): 12:54pm On Sep 03, 2019
komodapson:
I read some if your lies and it got to a point I couldn't take it. I'd to take some sleeping pills. £60k.. Wtf...what is % of over 60 million population earn this amount in UK? U claimed some of your folks numbering 20 work for JP Morgan....Even JP no fit boast of this staggering figure of his relatives 4d finance house....My bro.. Be aware heaven is real... I won't say more than that...


Stop sounding like an ignorant chimp! Where did I ever mention majority of people in the UK made that amount? Where did I mention that it was the average? We are talking about Middle class here and not just ordinary middle class, educated professionals! Next time before you jump in like a castrated donkey, READ!
Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by LewinskyMon: 1:24pm On Sep 03, 2019
oluayebenz:
I need clarification here pls

I noticed recently Nigerian-British are also moving to Canada and Australia through express entry. I've seen 3 different people this last month alone that moved, mind you these people are Nigerian with British passport...

My questions:
Is there no more opportunities in the UK?
Is UK now having economic, security, poverty challenges ?
Is there no more 24hrs electricity, good roads and infrastructures in the Uk?

Or black man just get issues
tongue
Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by TheEnforcer: 2:24pm On Sep 03, 2019
Impulse80:
You guys just don't get it. It's about peace of mind. Every day we live in fear in this country.
Why do people bother replying this times234 guy?Hes a troll on the travel section.Makes baseless allegations without verifiable evidence.Let people ask him why he is so bitter about the US and expends all his energy hating America.Surely,this is not normal.Nobody in the US knows him,so why is he so bitter?He is always supporting China.Go and check his past threads and posts.Then you understand where he is coming from.He says he knows tens of thousands of people in delta state .Hows that possible?Nobody should bother replying him

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by TheEnforcer: 2:29pm On Sep 03, 2019
timesup234:
Your circle is full of lazy and unserious people. You need to get out to experience what is happening in the real world. I k[sub]now tens of thousand of people paying 150k a term[size=8pt][/size] here in Delta state. Many have more than 3 kids in the same school. Same thing all over Nigeria... Calabar, PH, Lagos, Og[color=#006600][/color]un, Abuja, Kogi, Edo...everywhere. Nigeria is the biggest goldmine known to mankind. Only the foolish finds it hard to search for the gold littered everywhere
You know tens of thousands of peeps in Delta state?Only you?Can you hear yourself?Your lies are too much and thats how you cook up figures everytime from the top of your head.Only those who dont know you will bother replying you

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Re: Africans Live Better Lives Than Most Americans by timesup234: 2:35pm On Sep 03, 2019
Why do people bother replying this TheEnforcer guy? He is a troll on the travel section. Makes baseless allegations without verifiable evidence. Let people ask him why he is so bitter about Nigeria and expends all his energy hating his fathers land. Surely this is normal. Nobody in Nigeria knows him, so why is he so bitter? He is always supporting America. Go and check his past threads and posts. Then you understand where he is coming from. He says he knows tens of thousands of people in New York city. Hows that possible? Nobody should bother replying him

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