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Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Blabbermouth: 10:25pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Anas09:Tell me about this part. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Anas09: 10:27pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Blabbermouth:Yes I did, and i responded to it. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Anas09: 10:28pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Blabbermouth:Lol. You said I shd post it, I have, so maybe you shd be the one to tell me what Jesus was saying to Philip there. 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 10:29pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
God is Almighty, If Jesus is God then he is Almighty If the Holy Spirit is God then he is Almighty If The Father is God he is Almighty. Because being The Almighty is a quality of the nature of God. Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device. One mistake men always make is comparing God to measurable and perishable things they can feel or see. What makes God Almighty are 1. Infinit in wisdom and knowledge/ Ominiscence The Spirit of God possesses this, Isaiah 40:13-14 Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him? With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and shewed to him the way of understanding? Jesus is said to know all things John 16:30 Now are we sure that thou knowest all things, and needest not that any man should ask thee: by this we believe that thou camest forth from God. 2. Omnipresence, The Holy Spirit is said to be omnipresent Psalms 139:7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? Jesus said he will be anywhere believers gather together, meaning he is omnipresent Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. 3, omnipotent Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. In fact saying the Spirit of God is not Almighty is saying God is not Almighty but yet separate from the Father. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 10:32pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Blabbermouth: If you're truly willing, earnestly ask God to help you, and He would!!! I would be praying for you also bro. God bless. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 10:37pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Anas09:Do you care to study the bible at all? Tell me what essence means? Jesus is Yahweh manifested i human form yes but Jesus is not God the Father. John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Jesus was in the bissom of the father meaning he is separate from the Father not the heresy you are propagating. What you are saying is that Jesus is both the father ,son and holy Ghost which has no scriptural evidence. What we should be talking of, is scriptural evidence. You dont dismiss a something because it is not explicitly stated even when evidence abound else, rapture and bible are not stated in the bible but yet are true. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Blabbermouth: 10:41pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
jesusjnr:Actually, I want to learn. What does it entail? The foremost is 1. Doing the will of God. But, is that all there is to loving God? |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 10:44pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Blabbermouth: What do you mean by persona? If you mean personality? Personality is tied to having a distinct character such as emotion, cognition and behavior. Being on the other hand talks of essence or nature. God is one being or essence or nature but three distinct individual persons 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Anas09: 10:46pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3:Pls, what is the bossom of the father? Now we are getting to where the Word is not all Literal. And yes, Jesus is the Fatber, the son and the Holy Spirit and they are scriptural evidences. I just gave out one here. And here is Jesus telling you that He was the Holy Spirit, but you didn't understand. John 14:17-20 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. Open your eyes and read the Bible line by line, 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Blabbermouth: 10:48pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3:Have you ever said or better still, is it plausible to say "The Jesus of YHWH" or "The Anas of solite3"? No!!! Why? They are different persons. Now, how is it that then we say " The spirit of God" or "The body of Christ" or "The mind of solite3". How? Because Spirit, body or mind are not a person but a Persona |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Blabbermouth: 10:56pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3:The answer to this question will make you fully grasp the concept of a persona. "Despite being separate persons, how come YHWH and Jesus are one?". |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 11:04pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Anas09:who get to determine where and when to take the word literal? And yes, Jesus is the Fatber, the son and the Holy Spirit and they are scriptural evidences. I just gave out one here.your personal wrong opinion zero biblical and here is Jesus telling you that He was the Holy Spirit, but you didn't understand.where did Jesus claim to be the holy Spirit? The Spirit was with his disciples as well as Jesus himself that was why they could perform miracles. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.what you are saying is highly incoherent? Show me scriptures that prove Jesus is both the father and the Holy Spirit or what you are saying is the heresy of modalism not trinity. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 11:06pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Blabbermouth:sorry God the father, Son and holy Spirit are not persona but persons. Neither solite ,anas or you is a trinue being but God is. Spirit mind or body is not trinity only God is. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 11:09pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Blabbermouth:persona means part of a character or a quality of a person. God the father, Son and Holy Spirit are not a character or quality but real persons who possesses emotion, wisdom can communicate with each other but one being |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Anas09: 11:11pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3:There are no three persons! There are no three persons!! There are no three persons!!! Where did you ever see three Persons in scripture? I didn't want to really go into this but let me say this ans I will close. Just like you know and agree that we, even as humans are Triune, meaning we are Spirits having a soul and lives in a shell calls the body. So also, there are three components of everything created large or small. And every of this thing has a purpose, a means and a result. Put it like this Purpose=== The first End The Means === The immediate End The Result==== The final End. The purpose and Means are Spiritual hence cannot be seeb, while the result is in the physical. The Purpose and means is the underlying realities of the result. Jesus is the result of what YHWH purposed to do on earth. 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Blabbermouth: 11:11pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3:Then, answer the question I asked u. We are almost there. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Blabbermouth: 11:14pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3:Yes, The father and the son are persons. But , the spirit is a persona Persona (in this context) means: PART/PORTION OF A PERSON... |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 11:22pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Anas09:This is unbiblical, and an heresy I will prefer the bible speak for itself. Jesus has being existing as the Son of God even before his incarnation. In Genesis God referred to himself as 'us' meaning more than one. The trinity is from eternity. Humans are not trinue beings but we bear the imprint of it. John1vv1 read that in the beginning the word was God and with God at the same same time, what does that tell you? The word is one person who is God but with God in another person. He Jesus has been in the bossom of the father bossom is used to refer to close proximity, there is nothing hidden there. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 11:24pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Blabbermouth:read my previous write up. The Holy Spirit is a person distinct from both the father and the Son not a part of their personality. Jesus clearly referred to him as a separate person even God referred th his Spirit as a separate person. Where did the idea of the holy Spirit being a persona come from? You dont make up something in your head and then try to misinterpret the bible to suit it. Let the bible speak for its self |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Blabbermouth: 11:25pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3:Do you have a mind? |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Anas09: 11:26pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3:You don't answer my questions but just go on saying heresy. What is the bossom of the father? 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Anas09: 11:30pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3:Okay sir. 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 11:31pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3: Two questions trinitarians have not answered, and which may throw more light are these: Did Yahweh call anyone His God in the bible? Did Jesus call anyone His God in the bible? |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 11:31pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
Anas09:In the bosom of the Father - This expression is taken from the custom among the Orientals of reclining at their meals. See the notes at Mat_23:6. It denotes intimacy, friendship, affection. Here it means that Jesus had a knowledge of God such as one friend has of another - knowledge of his character, designs, and nature which no other one possesses, and which renders him, therefore, qualified above all others to make him known. (Albert Barnes Commentary) |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Nobody: 11:34pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
HedwigesMaduro:this is not even a valid question? Jesus called yahweh His God it is because he became a man one who was lesser than God. 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by Blabbermouth: 11:51pm On Oct 11, 2019 |
solite3:What about the spirit? I tell you again, the holy spirit is part of God (as a person). It is the spirit of God... |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by haywizzy007(m): 1:27am On Oct 12, 2019 |
Anas09:May God forgive you for calling Jesus YAHWEH |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by MuttleyLaff: 5:23am On Oct 12, 2019 |
jesusjnr:Jesus Himself said that the Father was greater than Him, but under what circumstance and/or in what context, did Jesus make this remark, huh jesusjnr? |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by blueAgent(m): 5:27am On Oct 12, 2019 |
Blabbermouth: All through the Bible the spirit is reffered to as the Spirit of God, I think it is better we stick to that. There is big difference in saying Mr John is a dog and saying Mr John's dog. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by blueAgent(m): 5:29am On Oct 12, 2019 |
solite3: Really? You claim to understand it yet the Catholic Church and Bible commentators label it a mystery that cannot be understood. It's obvious you are on your on. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by blueAgent(m): 5:32am On Oct 12, 2019 |
Anas09: This is just Human explanation not Bible. |
Re: The Trinity Confusion: God The Father,The spirit of God,The Son of God.. by MuttleyLaff: 5:38am On Oct 12, 2019 |
jesusjnr:"5In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in very nature a God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to His own advantage; 7rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness." - Philippians 2:5-7 shadeyinka:I didnt re-open any wound, it is an opened wound, it is an unattended to and left like that, already open wound shadeyinka:[img]https://s3/images/OutNowJesusjnr.gif[/img] Smh, shadeyinka come and see this your unrepentant self-proclaimed prophet here again Can't someone just please march out jesusjnr with his poisonous claws and fangs contribution from this thread ni? The jesusjnr leopard doesnt change its spots, a leopard can't and doesn't change its spots, this a leopard, who cant get rid of its spots. jesusjnr has just confirmed that leopards never changes their spots |
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