budaatum:

Your sense of importance seems very inflated mich, when the truth is that I don't really give a flying fuq what you think, of me or of pigs or of men for that matter, or what you advocate for or "invested (financially,materially)" nor your hurt which you seem to think is far more important than the hurt and the pain you inflict with your insults and disregard for whatever others might have invested. So please advocate whatever you want wherever you want and I'll just advocate that "men, are, pigs"!

Just so you know, you are rather rude and that person you mentioned is a pig, not because he insulted women but because he insulted my tits!

Michellekabod2:

You are free,will never quote you as regards to your misandrist posts. Noted!
I am rude!
Just so you know, you are hypocritical,not straightforward and double mouthed (no one can rely on your yes or no, because a conman like you changes his mouth)

Dantedasz:

Michellekabod2:

You are free,will never quote you as regards to your misandrist posts. Noted!
I am rude!
Just so you know, you are hypocritical,not straightforward and double mouthed (no one can rely on your yes or no, because a conman like you changes his mouth)

Michellekabod2:
yo...how are you doing?

Michellekabod2:

BTW I was rude because of the accusation you made not because of the men are pigs...

budaatum:

Hear flipflop you accusing others of mouth changing Lol, as if your opinion of me should matter to me, but thankfully you have no reason whatsoever to rely on me mich, since I'm not responsible for you nor give a flying fuq what you think!

Michellekabod2:
You called me rude and I call u what you are . You can tag others and when they tag you you will start saying their opinions of you don't count..Buda f.uck off

Michellekabod2:
You called me rude and I call u what you are . You can tag others and when they tag you you will start saying their opinions of you don't count..Buda f.uck off

Dantedasz:


I can see you are ignoring me....

Michellekabod2:
yo...I get your point,have tried my best to refrain insulting but it's not easy . I posted on a the thread politely and Martinez insulted me first then I was rude to him...then Buda posted a misandrist post, I didn't even insult him I just gave my polite opinion that he doesn't have to insult me and he accused me ... that is what pissed me off...

budaatum:

Like it matters why you are rude. It's not like its your first time mich, and I'm getting used to you.

Dantedasz:


I am going to quote you on a dead thread. I don't want to derail this one....ok??

Michellekabod2:

Don't be daft! Where did I claim you said both genders don't need themselves? The statement using "we" was an admonishment and not rebuttal...it didn't refer to you and me Martinez39 but everyone reading.
It will be unbiased of you to feel it's only women that are toxic, egoistic,entitled etc. .the way some males behave on this forum is testament to the fact there is toxic masculinity in a typical Nigerian man. You always focus on what ladies do wrong and ignore what men do wrong. I have never seen you call out ilekoko.nit,astro.G etc of their misogynistic post but you don't hesitate to cry foul when a misandrist post is made.

women are liberated? I guess you are seeing it from a socio-economic perspective like them being able to take part in politics,going to school,pursue a career etc
But how about the helpless girls undergoing female genital mutilation,oppressed widows, divorcees that are bullied and shamed? Ladies endure depravities in the name of marriage and you say they are liberated?
this is foolish of you! Where did I say patriarchy is misogyny?
Gynocentrism came when they were always playing victims and gaining pity,that is the path MGTOW are also taking(playing victim) and the world may turn out to pro-man too.


first and foremost, patriarchy isn't completely eliminated! So this isn't fighting the present for sins of past but fighting the present for both past and present.
Secondly,am not justifying gynocentrism,am only telling you why it came about.

Martinez39, you are a foooool...a born fool!
There is no such thing as good or bad feminist,there are just feminist with different ideas of feminism.. chameleons? Your accusations are baseless and thus will be ignored.

we don't need your love, shove it up your ass...I guess I will have to learn more of mgtow because my ideas of them are based on the exhibitions of some mgtow dudes. Who are feminists oppressing too? Feminist will not be women but be whoever they want to be(as long they are hurting no one) and they will define morality not from a stereotype lens.
If you mgtow can't cope with that,kiss my ass...

Michellekabod2:

Aside today when have I insulted you?

Michellekabod2:

Sorry to chip in, I have known budaatum on NL for a while now. He is open minded, doesn't judge,tolerant,try to promote peace and unity. Infact even though he is a Christian, he doesn't judge or condemn other people beliefs. He never threatens or faults other religions,sects et Al.

Michellekabod2:
then Buda posted a misandrist post, I didn't even insult him I just gave my polite opinion that he doesn't have to insult men and he accused me ... that is what pissed me off...

AfroKnight:
This thread really cracks me up. Why can’t these naija feminists agree on a creed? Today they want equal rights, tomorrow they want to subjugate the men, next week, they want all women to hate men.

You should not confuse the thunder/lightning that’s trying to locate you abeg. Stay one place.

We have witnessed undue favouritism for women in school and the work place and I do not care very much for the advancement of any special women rights. They enjoy basic human rights like us men. It doesn’t end there though. By reason of their gender many have enjoyed favours and perks of being a woman and somehow spun the stories to appear as the victims. It’s so bad that these days, chivalry is patriarchy. I just dey laugh.

Fountainofyouth:
All i see are contradictions, no clear cut message here.

womenareapes:


seriously!

see the way women are turning this story to appear as victims!

some even went to the extreme in writing bullshit!

EmptyCoconutHead:
how would u be able to see clearly when your dumb brain is too low to comprehend such educative write up?

AfroKnight:
This thread really cracks me up. Why can’t these naija feminists agree on a creed? Today they want equal rights, tomorrow they want to subjugate the men, next week, they want all women to hate men.

You should not confuse the thunder/lightning that’s trying to locate you abeg. Stay one place.

We have witnessed undue favouritism for women in school and the work place and I do not care very much for the advancement of any special women rights. They enjoy basic human rights like us men. It doesn’t end there though. By reason of their gender many have enjoyed favours and perks of being a woman and somehow spun the stories to appear as the victims. It’s so bad that these days, chivalry is patriarchy. I just dey laugh.

Korllami007:


You de mind those crazy people.

Female jail term is lesser than male jail term but they are still screaming that female have been oppressed.

UN made law that women shouldn't be killed during war but still they scream female have been oppressed.

See them below people suffering from mental impairment calling themselve feminists. Naija feminists will carry this nonsense come Nigeria so that they can proof they are equal to men.

AfroKnight:
This thread really cracks me up. Why can’t these naija feminists agree on a creed? Today they want equal rights, tomorrow they want to subjugate the men, next week, they want all women to hate men.

We have witnessed undue favouritism for women in school and the work place and I do not care very much for the advancement of any special women rights. They enjoy basic human rights like us men. It doesn’t end there though.

By reason of their gender many have enjoyed favours and perks of being a woman and somehow spun the stories to appear as the victims. It’s so bad that these days, chivalry is patriarchy. I just dey laugh.

Magnoliaa:


Feminists are still individuals with biases and prejudices, subjective experiences. There are different 'branches' of it. We have the radicals, liberals, intersectionalists, etc.



It's easy to speak on things you're not experiencing.

Will you say the to women in third world countries?



Of course. 'Perks' and 'favours' that men put in place.

womenareapes:
I became MGTOW because I have both seen and experienced the female superiority complex and how it harms men or masculine individuals.

“Feminism” has inflated female egos to the point where they have turned society against masculinity.

The “patriarchy” is a myth. Men never oppressed women. The social system we had back then was a product of EVOLUTION, not male superiority complex.

It was a survival strategy due to our physical bodily limitations to have the men (stronger and sturdier) to go out and risk their lives to provide for their families while females stayed back with the children.

This was never men oppressing women. This was a survival strategy because most women weren’t built to fight or exert a lot of physical strength. Women were built to nurture and grow babies. Our bodily differences reflect this.

Women had value on their lives and how they felt (their emotional safety and their physical comfort were taken care of; ex. can’t hit a woman, can’t make her cry, had to be chivalrous towards her, couldn’t expose her to reality or danger, couldn’t expose to her the harsh truth). Men were not treated this way at all.

“Feminism” ignores how men were treated. Feminism only cares about advancing women and they believe that men already have all their freedoms. Men were just as much disadvantaged in society as women were.

And now that women have all the freedom, men are proportionately much more disadvantaged than women.

It used to be that everyone was equally treated like shit (just in different ways). Now women are pampered while men are treated like shit by both life and women who demand to be treated like princesses.

This doesn’t mean we should go back to the old shitty society that was based in survival. We have passed the point in human evolution where we are struggling to survive. We have all our knowledge and technology to be able to thrive now.

But now men need to go through their “meninist” movement. They need to take back their rights and demand to be treated like kings just like women have done otherwise they will continue to be treated like a lessor value.

The problem is women have freed themselves from the ways in which men had power over them yet they are exerting power over men. Women have stopped the things they used to do to serve men as well.

Men right now are at a huge disadvantage. They have no power over women yet the women have complete power over them. Men are putting out effort for women and are getting mistreated in return.

This is why the MGTOW became a thing. It is the men’s version of feminism. It is what is needed for a balance in society and for our human evolution.

I believe all men should be MGTOW. I believe any woman who believes in equality and who believes men are human beings who should be treated with respect should become MGTOW as well.

I personally am MGTOW, both because I support men and because I have personally been through some of the struggles that men have on a daily basis because I am a tomboy and have a masculine personality, which is criticized nowadays (as masculinity is discriminated against). I was raised like a male was (not allowed to show any emotion, had to be strong and tough).

I have seen the damage this imbalanced society inflicts on males. Every male I know (and that is a lot since I live with all guys, have all male friends, engage in hobbies that are male dominated, and work only in male dominated careers) has been negatively affected by this current society.

I have seen:

My uncle was in and out of relationships where the female uses him for financial support, home repairs, and emotional support while she goes and cheats on him in his own bed with three guys. He has only been in one relationship where he wasn’t used by a woman for sex, money, emotional support, or physical labor. He was even raped before by women and no one took him seriously.
My father was in relationships where he was used financially and emotionally by women while they were all cheating on him. My mother was the one woman who didn’t do this to him.
My friend was with a girlfriend who abused him emotionally and physically (she hit him all the time to the point where he was black and blue) and when the police was called, she told the officers that he was beating her and he went to prison for a crime he never committed.
Another one of my friends was used by women emotionally and they were emotionally abusive to him. He is completely subservient to women because of this and it is so hard to watch.
My brother is in a relationship where his girlfriend doesn’t care about his needs and makes him bend to all of her wishes.
Same thing with most of my coworkers (I work at an auto shop). All of their girlfriends are controlling, overly emotionally sensitive, and won’t let them do anything without their permission.
most guys in relationships where they are controlled by women and where their own feelings aren’t taken into consideration.
I have even been in a relationship myself where I was controlled and my feelings didn’t matter and I just existed to make the other person happy. I understand what it is like.

We need to start laying down some boundaries and to start making our feelings be heard. We need to stop serving women for them to realize how much we actually do for them.

We need to get our self-worth back. We need to enforce that our lives and feelings DO matter. And we can’t let women bully us and push us around and we have to just leave the situation when that happens (since we can’t push back without getting fired, thrown in jail, or shot).

Women will start to realize that men do have value and they should be treated as such. But for that to happen, men have to be absent in women’s lives so that they can realize how much men actually do for them.

AfroKnight:


The patriarchy you despise gave you those perks. Why then do you fight against a concept that puts you ahead?

It appears this “patriarchy” of yours is actually a feminist construct that gives women undue advantage. Leave it in place then, and enjoy the goodwill of benevolent men. Lord knows I love women a lot, and I want them to contribute their uniqueness in society.

AfroKnight:


The patriarchy you despise gave you those perks. Why then do you fight against a concept that puts you ahead?

It appears this “patriarchy” of yours is actually a feminist construct that gives women undue advantage. Leave it in place then, and enjoy the goodwill of benevolent men.

AfroKnight:

The patriarchy you despise gave you those perks. Why then do you fight against a concept that puts you ahead?
It appears this “patriarchy” of yours is actually a feminist construct that gives women undue advantage. Leave it in place then, and enjoy the goodwill of benevolent men. Lord knows I love women a lot, and I want them to contribute their uniqueness in society.

AfroKnight:


The patriarchy you despise gave you those perks.

budaatum:

Listen to yourself please and maybe you would understand what you are saying. I have translated it for you below.

"Emancipation from slavery is a perk that your slavemaster gave you by removing the chains from your neck".

I am certain you would not agree that that is what you meant but I can't claim to be surprised with your minute understanding!

"The patriarchy you despise" created a situation where those perks became perks that feminist had to fight for. Patriarchy is a construct of pig men to deprive others of their rights.