Ihedinobi3:

You'll need to refer to my previous posts to find out which challenges. I did spell them out as clearly as I could from the beginning.

As for your second question, please read my previous posts to see what I actually said about the soul. As for what can be proven in the Bible, I think that it is obvious that you have no biblical arguments for your position. The fact that you have not addressed my arguments, preferring instead to try to drag me into an exchange of insults, is proof enough of that.

As for your questions, I was the challenger here. I came and asked you to prove that your teaching is biblical by showing you passages in the Bible that contradicted your position. You did not give any good answers. I proceeded on my own to provide an alternative interpretation of the Scriptures regarding the issue, and I answered every reasonable question that you asked challenging my interpretation. What questions I refused to answer I explained why I refused to answer.

I realize that you are quarrelsome and you are spoiling for a fight, but I have neither time nor energy for that. You have people here who have been more than happy to indulge your appetite for it, so you really don't need me to join in the fray. I have no doubt that your position is pure heresy. I also have no doubt that you know it and simply don't care. So, I have no interest in trying to persuade you to believe anything different than you do. I am happy to simply demonstrate that you are teaching a false doctrine here so that anyone who loves the Truth and comes here will not be deceived by you. That's all.

Ihedinobi3:

You'll need to refer to my previous posts to find out which challenges. I did spell them out as clearly as I could from the beginning.

As for your second question, please read my previous posts to see what I actually said about the soul. As for what can be proven in the Bible, I think that it is obvious that you have no biblical arguments for your position. The fact that you have not addressed my arguments, preferring instead to try to drag me into an exchange of insults, is proof enough of that.

As for your questions, I was the challenger here. I came and asked you to prove that your teaching is biblical by showing you passages in the Bible that contradicted your position. You did not give any good answers. I proceeded on my own to provide an alternative interpretation of the Scriptures regarding the issue, and I answered every reasonable question that you asked challenging my interpretation. What questions I refused to answer I explained why I refused to answer.

I realize that you are quarrelsome and you are spoiling for a fight, but I have neither time nor energy for that. You have people here who have been more than happy to indulge your appetite for it, so you really don't need me to join in the fray. I have no doubt that your position is pure heresy. I also have no doubt that you know it and simply don't care. So, I have no interest in trying to persuade you to believe anything different than you do. I am happy to simply demonstrate that you are teaching a false doctrine here so that anyone who loves the Truth and comes here will not be deceived by you. That's all.

jcross19:
why should I be wasting my energy on son of perdition sorry sir!!! Jehovah' witness ! e go do you voom for eye.

Ihedinobi3:





As you said, the Scriptures cannot be broken. So, I don't believe that any part of the Bible can contradict any other. That was why I provided passages in the Bible that disagreed with your interpretation of these ones that you have shown here and others like them. Then I also went on to provide an interpretation that accounts for everything the Bible has to say about all this.

You have not actually addressed my arguments at all. As I said, you have tried rather to drag me into an exchange of insults and accusations/counter accusations. You have dismissed my arguments right out of hand too. But you have not actually looked at what I have said and what I have shown you from the Bible that disagrees with your doctrine.

I don't really care what you want to believe and teach. That is really your business, and I have no right or interest in interferring in your exercise of your free will. I have only interfered here because you are teaching this in public space where I am also responsible to offer protection for believers who come around these parts. My interference is purely to leave a witness to the Truth here for those who could be misled by you. If they accept my testimony, they will be safe. If they do not, they won't be.

I am done with our exchange. I will not be responding again to you.

jcross19:
this is the reason you lack bible understanding! Is talking about our mortal body! ahahahahaha.

jcross19:
can you see someone who is quoting bible and trying to question the existence of his fellow mortal! you are a big fool that reason with his foot. very shameful simple question you are quoting out of point. the mortal died and return to dust why the spirit remain intact all the quotations are all talking about the state of canal or mortal body which dies and decays but the spirit never die. simple Jesus told the thief at left side that today you will meet me in the paradise then asked you that was Jesus drunk to made such statement if there is no life after death . If you want to argue, argue with Christ period not meet. your brain is equal brain of a fish.

Ihedinobi3:

I don't think you did. I only saw you reiterating the position that I was challenging, not answering the challenges that I offered to you.

But, no matter, it really would be a waste of my time and energy to engage any further. I don't think you will or can answer my challenges any better than you have done.

Ihedinobi3:

I don't think you did. I only saw you reiterating the position that I was challenging, not answering the challenges that I offered to you.

But, no matter, it really would be a waste of my time and energy to engage any further. I don't think you will or can answer my challenges any better than you have done.

blueAgent:


If the Spirit was alive and conscious after death as you claim.
Why is that you don't know what is happening around you when asleep? why is your spirit or Soul not keeping record or seeing what is happening within your environment while you are sleeping?

Note the Bible likened death to sleep.

Many centuries later the biblical account of the death of
Lazarus, a friend of Jesus, illustrates death to be a sleeplike
state. “Now a certain man was sick, Lazarus of
Bethany” (John 11:1). Jesus decided to go to him, but, so He
could perform a miracle to strengthen His disciples’ faith, He
waited until Lazarus died.
Before going to Bethany, Jesus discussed the condition of
Lazarus with His disciples. He told them Lazarus was asleep
and that He was going to awaken him ( John 11:11-14 ). The
disciples responded that sleep was good because it would
help him get well (John 11:12). Jesus then plainly told them,
“Lazarus is dead” (John 11:14 ). Notice that Jesus stated
emphatically that Lazarus was dead, but at the same time He
described death as a condition like sleep.

jcross19:
wait oooh! when you are sleeping , you are still canal minded all the quotations about the dead have no memo in the grave simply all flesh end in the dust but the spirit can't trapped in the grave ! the quotations talk about the flesh and truly there is different between flesh and spirit. flesh dies, decay and returned to the ground but spirit that energized the body does not die.

blueAgent:


Then show where it is written or explain while the dead do not know anything, are there spirit no supposed to know things?

Ihedinobi3:

Hello.

Why then does the Bible say the following?

14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.
(KJV) Ecclesiastes 3:14

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
(KJV) Revelation 14:9-11

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever...14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
(KJV) Revelation 20:10, 14-15

jcross19:
wait oooh! when you are sleeping , you are still canal minded all the quotations about the dead have no memo in the grave simply all flesh end in the dust but the spirit can't trapped in the grave ! the quotations talk about the flesh and truly there is different between flesh and spirit. flesh dies, decay and returned to the ground but spirit that energized the body does not die.

JMAN05:


Yet this spirit can feel the torture of a fire? And be entrapped in a location where there is fire.

jcross19:
there is a gap between spirit world and canal world! it won't make sense to you if you don't believe in spirit world.

blueAgent:



All the things you are saying are pagan beliefs not Bible.
If there is any proof in the Bible you could have posted it.

jcross19:
1peter 3:18-21 21 New International Version (NIV)
18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. 19 After being made alive,[a] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[b] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Now who are the guys in the spirit prison.

jcross19:
there is a gap between spirit world and carnal world!
it won't make sense to you if you don't believe in spirit world.

blueAgent:
All the things you are saying are pagan beliefs not Bible.

blueAgent:
If there is any proof in the Bible you could have posted it.

blueAgent:



Do you have to twist and turn a Bible verse to suit your preconcieved beliefs?

If that was true then the Bible is wrong in saying that after death is judgement, since the spirits of the dead were preached to.

I will explain that Bible verse clearly to you when am less busy.

blueAgent:
Do you have to twist and turn a Bible verse to suit your preconcieved beliefs?

blueAgent:
If that was true then the Bible is wrong in saying that after death is judgement, since the spirits of the dead were preached to

blueAgent:
I will explain that Bible verse clearly to you when am less busy.

JMAN05:


When we put check other Bible verses, then it becomes clear what this revelation 20 must mean. Literal torment? I don't think so.

The Bible was clear as to the wages of sin. It is death. Adam and Eve were rewarded with death - eternal death. In other words, anything more than that is no longer the wages.

However, the Bible often use the word fire symbolically as eternal destruction. That is a fine conclusion.

As for that Rev. 20:14, that place said that lake of fire means the second death. Extinction. That is clear, it was defined.

Again, that place mentioned hades, death were said to be cast into the lake of fire. Logically, these things are not immortal to undergo everlasting torture. The account must be talking about something else in a figurative language. Check Jude 7.

jcross19:
I did not form the verse it's directly from bible. I quoted it from bible!.

blueAgent:



You quoted it wrongly.

Ihedinobi3:

I have answered much of the above in other comments (except for the idea that Adam and Eve were rewarded with "eternal death," I've never seen that anywhere in the Bible). Nonetheless, I don't discuss with Jehovah's Witnesses. You are all quarrelsome, and you have no respect for the Bible.

jcross19:
the bible says fear not who can only kill the flesh but can not hurt the spirit but fear him who can kill the flesh and destroy the spirit who is that the Almighty God , is the only one that can penetrate pain to the spirit.

JMAN05:


That was well said. You know your Bible. Truely, God Almighty is the one that can kill the soul or as you said "destroy the "spirit"". Yes, destroy, not torture with fire.

jcross19:
1peter 3:18-21 21 New International Version (NIV)
18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. 19 After being made alive,[a] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[b] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Now who are the guys in the spirit prison.

jcross19:
1peter 3:18-21 21 New International Version (NIV)
18 For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive in the Spirit. 19 After being made alive,[a] he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[b] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Now who are the guys in the spirit prison.

jcross19:
destruction in bible mostly appeared figuratively but the truth is that " destroy "mean second death and second death mean everlasting torment in lake of fire!.

blueAgent:





1 Peter 3:18
For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the
unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death
in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit.
Christ, who is righteous, took upon himself the sins of his
unrighteous people. Christ suffered for his people ( Isa
53:1-12 ). We remember that Peter already mentioned the
concept suffering unjustly (see 1 Pet. 2:20-24 ; 3:14 , 17). Now
he states that Christ suffered, not for the righteous, but for the
unrighteous.
Jesus is "the Holy and Righteous One" ( Acts 3:14 ; 7:52 ; 22:14 ;
1 John 2:1 , 29). Jesus is righteous, that is, without sin. As
Paul writes, "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us,
so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" (2
Cor. 5:21 ). Jesus fulfilled God's demand for justice, paid the
penalty that was ours, and offered himself as a sacrifice "to
take away the sins of many people" (Heb. 9:28 ; cf. Isa 53:12 ).
Jesus "was put to death in the body but made alive by the
Spirit." See Romans 1:4 ; 8:9-11 . See WCF 8.2; 8.7; BC 21; HC
16, 37.
The same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead (1 Pet. 3:18 ;
Gen. 6:3 ) saves repentant sinners by grace alone ( John 3:1-8 ;
cf. Gen. 6:8 ; Eph. 2:8-10 ).
1 Peter 3:19-20
By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in
prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the
longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the
ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were
saved by water.
Four main interpretations of have been promoted of 1 Peter
3:19-20 :
(1) The section refers to preincarnate preaching (i.e., that
Christ preached through Noah [cf. 2 Pet. 2:5 ] to Noah's
wicked contemporaries while they were still alive). He
called them to repentance, but they disobeyed and are
now imprisoned. The point of Peter's argument would
then be the parallel between God's vindication of Noah in
a world of unbelievers and his vindication of Christians in
similar circumstances. This is the most reasonable
interpretation of our passage.
(2) This passage refers to preresurrection preaching (i.e.,
preaching that occurred between Christ's death and
resurrection, during a "descent into hell". One variation of
this view holds that Christ announced his victory and their
doom to the spirits of Noah's wicked contemporaries in
the place of the dead.
(3) Another version of the preresurrection approach holds
that Christ proclaimed the same message to fallen angels,
who are often identified with the "sons of God" of Genesis
6:2 , 4 (cf. Job 1:6 ; 2:1 ), in their place of confinement.
(4) These two verses refer to postresurrection preaching
(i.e., Christ proclaimed his victory to fallen angels at the
time of his ascension into heaven). The point of the last
three interpretations is that just as Jesus was vindicated,
so God will vindicate Christians. In no case was Peter
suggesting that Christ offered deceased unbelievers an
opportunity to receive the gospel and thus be saved.
One should probably agree with Grudem on his interpretation:
19. Taken by itself, the phrase spirits in prison could refer
either to human spirits in hell or to fallen angelic spirits in
hell. 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 1:6 speak of sinful angels being
imprisoned and punished, while Luke 16:23-24 and 2 Peter
2:9 refer to unbelievers who have died and are in a place
of punishment. . . . and in every case where it means
'angelic spirit' as well as every case where it means
'human spirit' the context makes it clear what kind of spirit
is meant.
20. The spirits in prison are those who formerly did not
obey (better: 'disobeyed', since the word has a sense of
active rebellion), when God's patience waited in the days
of Noah, during the building of the ark. These phrases
indicate that only human spirits can be intended, for
nowhere in the Bible or in Jewish literature outside of the
Bible are angels ever said to have disobeyed 'during the
building of the ark'. Genesis 6:5-13 clearly emphasizes the
human sin, which provoked God to flood the earth in
judgment. . . . When God's patience waited in the days of
Noah also suggests human, rather than angelic,
disobedience. God's patience waited for human beings to
repent before bringing the judgment of the flood (this is
also a frequent theme in extra-biblical literature), but never
is there any hint that fallen angels have a chance to repent
- it is only given to sinful human beings (cf. 2 Pet. 2:4 ;
Jude 1:6 ).
But why does Peter refer to 'spirits' if he has in view
disobedience by human beings who were not just 'spirits'
but bodies as well? This is best explained by
understanding the text to mean 'spirits who are now in
prison' (i.e. at the time Peter was writing), but who were
people on earth at the time of Noah, when Christ was
preaching to them. (The NASB translates, 'the spirits now
in prison'.) A similar expression is found a few verses
later at 1 Pet. 4:6 , 'For this is why the gospel was
preached even to the dead', which is best understood to
mean 'the gospel was preached to those who are now
dead' (but who were alive when the gospel was preached
to them; see discussion below). One can speak the same
way in English: 'Queen Elizabeth was born in 1926' is an
appropriate statement, even though she was not Queen
when she was born - we mean 'She who is now Queen
Elizabeth was born in 1926.'
The phrase who formerly did not obey is better translated
'when they formerly disobeyed', thus specifying that this
was the time when Christ 'in spirit' preached to these
people: i.e. 'when they formerly disobeyed when God's
patience was waiting in the days of Noah, during the
building of the ark.' Peter elsewhere mentions ideas
similar to the thought that Christ 'in spirit' preached
through Noah, for in 1 Pet. 1:11 the Spirit of Christ is said
to have been active in the prophets of the Old Testament
era (cf. 1 Cor. 10:4 ).
Although Peter does not specifically call Noah a prophet in
2 Peter 2:5 , he terms him a 'herald of righteousness', and
uses the noun (keryx) which is related to the verb
'preached' (kerysso) in 1 Pet. 3:20 .
By saying that Christ went and preached rather than just
saying that he 'preached', Peter suggests that Christ did
not stay in heaven but 'went' to where people were
disobeying, and there preached to them through the lips
of Noah. The content of this preaching was not a
message of final condemnation . . . or the completion of
redemption . . . , but concerned the need to repent and
come to God for salvation. This is what Noah would have
preached to those around him (even without extra-biblical
literature we would draw this conclusion from 2 Pet. 2:4 ).
It is the right message to preach when people are
disobeying 'while God's patience is waiting' (cf. 2 Pet.
3:9 ).
This interpretation is very appropriate to the larger context
of 1 Pet. 3:13-22 . The parallel between the situation of
Noah and the situation of Peters readers is clear at several
points:
(1) Noah and his family were a minority surrounded
by hostile unbelievers; so are Peter's readers (1 Pet.
3:13-14 ; 4:4 , 12-13 ).
(2) Noah was righteous in the midst of a wicked
world. Peter exhorts his readers to be righteous in
the midst of wicked unbelievers (1 Pet. 3:13-14 ,
16-17 ; 4:3-4 ).
(3) Noah witnessed boldly to those around him.
Peter encourages his readers to be good witnesses
to unbelievers around them (1 Pet. 3:14 , 16-17 ),
being willing to suffer, if need be, to bring others to
God (just as Christ was willing to suffer and die
'that he might bring us to God', 1 Pet. 3:18 ).
(4) Noah realized that judgment was soon to come
upon the world. Peter reminds his readers that
God's judgment is certainly coming, perhaps soon
(1 Pet. 4:5 , 7; 2 Pet. 3:10 ).
(5) In the unseen 'spiritual' realm Christ preached
through Noah to unbelievers around him. By saying
this Peter can remind his readers of the reality of
Christ's work in the unseen spiritual realm and the
fact that Christ is also in them, empowering their
witness and making it spiritually effective (cf. 1 Pet.
1:8 , 11, 12 , 25; 2:4 ). Therefore, they should not fear
(1 Pet. 3:14 ) but in their hearts should 'reverence
Christ as Lord' and should 'always be prepared' to
tell of the hope that is in them ( 1 Pet. 3:15 ).
(6) At the time of Noah, God was patiently awaiting
repentance from unbelievers, before he brought
judgment. So it is in the situation of Peter's readers:
God is patiently awaiting repentance from
unbelievers (cf. 2 Pet. 3:9 ) before bringing judgment
on the world (cf. 2 Pet. 3:10 ).
(7) Noah was finally saved, with 'a few' others.
Peter thus encourages his readers that, though
perhaps few, they too will finally be saved, for
Christ has triumphed and has all things subject to
him (1 Pet. 3:22 ; 4:13 , 19; 5:10 ; 2 Pet. 2:9 ).
This passage, once cleared of misunderstanding,
should also function today as an encouragement to
us to be bold in our witness (as Noah was), to be
confident that, though we may be few, God will
certainly save us (as he did Noah), and to remind
us that just as certainly as the flood eventually
came, so final judgment will certainly come to our
world as well, and Christ will ultimately triumph
over all the evil in the universe.
1 Peter 3:21
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also
now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the
flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward
God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
If the basis of one's salvation is Christ ("It saves you by
the resurrection of Jesus Christ", what does Peter mean
by "baptism that now saves you?" Peter clearly says it
saves one "not as a removal of dirt from the body." It is
not the physical act which washes dirt from the body that
saves a person - in other words, nothing man can do
(John 1:13 ; Rom. 9:16 ) - but a "clear conscience toward
God," which is by grace alone (Heb. 9:14 ; cf. Prov. 20:27 )
. Describing the conscience, Thomas Watson in Body of
Practical Divinity states:
A good conscience has God for its object, it
respects his word, will, and worship; and therefore
is called, "conscience towards God" (1 Pet. 2:19 ),
as repentance is repentance towards God, and faith
is faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ; . . .
"conscience of God," which is of God, has God for
its author, being implanted in the mind of man by
him; it is God's vice-regent [an officer appointed as
deputy by and to a sovereign or supreme chief],
which acts for him, and under him, and is
accountable to him.
Peter was consistent with the other apostles (cf. Eph.
2:8-10 ) who taught salvation by faith alone (1 Pet.
1:18-19 ). He was not teaching the (Roman Catholic,
Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and in some circles
Lutheran, etc.) doctrine of baptismal regeneration (a
baptism which "signifies and actually brings about the
birth of water and the Spirit without which no one 'can
enter the kingdom of God'" - Section 1215 of the CCC).
Baptism is a sign and seal of being in God's covenant (as
circumcision was in the Old Covenant - Gen. 17:7-14 ) in
which there are covenant stipulations (see "Covenants in
General" below) of both blessings for obedience and
cursing for disobedience for both saved and lost. A person
in the Old Covenant could be circumcised (Gen 17:26 ) and
yet lost. See "Was Ishmael Saved?" below. The same goes
for baptism in the New Covenant (Simon in Acts 8:13-24 ;
Alexander in 2 Tim 4:14 , etc.).
Many commentators see a connection between the Old
Testament rite of circumcision and the New Testament
sacrament of baptism. Peter's wording of "removal of dirt
from the body" probably implies that he was thinking
about the rite of circumcision. Note that "circumcision"
was a command given after Abraham had faith.
Circumcision saved nobody. It was a covenant sign. The
Old Testament saints were saved the same way New
Testament saints are - through the gift of faith alone ( Gal
3:8 ). As Paul says, "If you belong to Christ, then you are
Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise" (Gal
3:29 ). See WCF 27.3; WLC 161, 163, 167; WSC 91; BC 34;
HC 69, 72.
1 Peter 3:22
"God's right hand" is the place in the universe of supreme
privilege and sovereignty (Eph. 1:20-23 ; Heb. 1:3 ). Christ
defeated principalities and powers (Col. 2:15 ), and when
Christ ascended to Heaven, he proclaimed victory over the
spiritual forces that were at enmity with him (Eph. 2:2 ;
6:12 ). In Psalm 110:1 , which Jesus applied to himself
(Matt. 22:41-46 ), we read that upon his enthronement,
Christ triumphs over his enemies. See WLC 54.
So: (1) Baptism does save, not by literally washing one's
sins away, but as Peter says, through "a good conscience,
through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" which is a gift of
God alone ( Heb 9:14 ; Jas 1:17 ; cf. Gen 3:7-8 ; Rom
2:14-15 ; 1 Pet 1:3 ). (2) In addition, Jesus didn't preach
the gospel in Hell, but rather he preached the gospel
through Noah to unbelievers, presently in Hell, while they
were still upon the earth (1 Pet 4:6 ; 2 Pet 2:5 )

jcross19:
ah I quoted directly what I saw in the bible okay can you please quote your own verses from the same chapter sir?

blueAgent:




You quoted what your preconcieved beliefs told you not what is in the Bible.

The Bible says the word of God cannot be broken, thus to say the every word of God must harmonize with each other.
From that Bible verse it is clear and evident that Paul was referring to the conscience, mind,thoughts, will (mind)of the people in Noah's days.


1 Peter 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a PREPARING, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.





As we can see the preaching was done while God was waiting for them to turn around and repent
(120yrs).
this disproves any argument that it was were Jesus went when he died.

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

This Bible verse is not talking about Jesus been alive in the spirit, rather it is telling us that Jesus through the power and agency of the Holyspirit was the one through Noah who was preaching to the people in the time of Noah for 120yrs asking them to repent.
This verse also explains to us that it was that same spirit that brought Jesus to live that was agency for christ preaching in the days of Noah.

Of cos anyone who lives in sin is in prison or bondage.


If we are to accept the lie that spirits live after death and Jesus went to Hell to preach to them.
Then it contradicts God's words to prophet Ezekiel.

Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Ezekiel 18:22 All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live. Ezekiel 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. Ezekiel 18:26 When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die. Ezekiel 33:12 Therefore, thou son of man, say unto the children of thy people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression: as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall thereby in the day that he turneth from his wickedness; neither shall the righteous be able to live for his righteousness in the day that he sinneth.