Hairyrapunzel:


If you like o muddle up verses. No jehovah is coming to destroy/kill/murder/slaughter/commit genocide of wicked/worldly/unrighteous/pagans/evil /non jws because they refused to join watchtower organisation and accept that governing body are the only channel of communication between God and man today so jws can live forever on paradise earth.


The only place it will happen is inside your head/imagination. Last last na still cycle of stupidity.

Where do you get all these from check your facts right my dear friend.

nogragra:

You're probably a Muslim coming here for knowledge, that's fair enough. However we don't seems to get the same opportunity with your Muslim website, no disrespect, as you want us to swear to something we do not know. We only know Jehovah God and it is to Him alone we swear allegiance, not under duress to any god.

You guess correctly my brother, that was my background before i accepted the TRUTH!

I'm now one of Jehovah's Witnesses since June this year when i got baptized as a Christian in the midst of hundreds of brothers and sisters.

So you are 100% correct! About my former religion before i became one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

nogragra:

What is your problem with the governing body that organised the most truthful religious body in the world today with the highest number of publications, world most translated website, preaching work and bible studies, number language translations (1000 languages), shedding more lights on the truth that has been hidden from you and many in the world today. Can these be said of the money changing pastors who fly executive jets at your expense and leave you in abject spiritual poverty? See, in the long run you have been told, the decision and choice is yours that is how Jehovah God operates, he want you to make a choice that's all (Deuteronomy 30:19-20).

the bolded is just your opinion. Before your governing body (a phrase not found in the bible) was formed, Christianity has thrived for nearly 1,900 years and the truth (which is Jesus Christ) has been shinning like light in the lives of Christians. It wasn't JWs that created THE TRUTH neither did they shed more lights on the truth.

The second bolded part is the funny part of your comment. Yes, pastors are guilty of all you said but you forget that so called governing body does exact same thing! Pastors just want money just so they can acquire material wealth and fly private jets, but your governing body requires DEDICATION (A word not used by Jesus or Apostles with regards to salvation) before interested members can be baptized and they hide behind that fact to control the entirety of all aspects of witnesses including their time, money, energy in construction work, their relationship with non-members, including their immediate society; so exactly how are they different from pastors? in my own opinion your governing body are more dangerous, no wonder you are banned in Russia and designated extremists.

maximunimpact:


(1)the bolded is just your opinion. Before your governing body (a phrase not found in the bible) was formed, Christianity has thrived for nearly 1,900 years and the truth (which is Jesus Christ) has been shinning like light in the lives of Christians. It wasn't JWs that created THE TRUTH neither did they shed more lights on the truth.

(2)The second bolded part is the funny part of your comment. Yes, pastors are guilty of all you said but you forget that so called governing body does exact same thing! Pastors just want money just so they can acquire material wealth and fly private jets, but your governing body requires DEDICATION (A word not used by Jesus or Apostles with regards to salvation) before interested members can be baptized and they hide behind that fact to control the entirety of all aspects of witnesses including their time, money, energy in construction work, their relationship with non-members, including their immediate society; so exactly how are they different from pastors? in my own opinion your governing body are more dangerous, no wonder you are banned in Russia and designated extremists.

(1) Jesus gave an illustration regarding his newly formed group in the first century, the illustration was about a man sowing fine seeds in his field (Jesus), an enemy (Satan) came when me were sleeping and sow weeds in the same field, the owner told his servants who wanted to go and remove the weeds "let them both grow together until the harvest, by then you'll see clearly the fine seeds and the weeds"! Matthew 13:24-30

Of course after the death of all the Apostles (when men were sleeping) Satan began ruling the churches and dominated those who tried to raise any objections against falsehood by killing them, this continued until America declared freedom of speech, expression and worship. Then true Christians were liberated from the dominance of false Christians, that's why Jehovah's Witnesses could come out and began shining the light once again!

You may choose to ignore but it's obvious today that there is just one religious group globally that's exhibiting the fruit of God's holy spirit! Galatians 5:22-23

(2) You've said it all, the GOVERNING BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses aren't interested in the material possession of their members, but their

©Loyalty to the GB! Act 2:42
©Time! 2Tim 4:1-2, Ephe 5:15-16
©Money! 2Cor 9:7, Deut 15:10
©Energy in construction! Ezra 1:3
©Relationship with none members! 2Cor 6:14
©Disengage former society! Rev 18:4 Her 50:8


So obviously Jehovah's Witnesses are doing just the same thing their ancient ancestors did.


Case closed!

nogragra:

your case is simply ignorance and lack of fear of God. May you not realize the truth when it is too late. Half word is only for the wise. I rest my case.

nogragra: your case is SIMPLY IGNORANCE and lack of FEAR of God. May you not realize the TRUTH when it is too late. Half word is only for the wise. I rest my case.

Achorladey: How do you know Hairyrapunzel is IGNORANT and equally discern the lack of FEAR of GOD?

You could have shown Hairy the TRUTH before its TOO LATE. That could aid his course. What is your take on that?

nogragra:

What is your problem with the governing body that organised the most truthful religious body in the world today with the highest number of publications, world most translated website, preaching work and bible studies, number language translations (1000 languages), shedding more lights on the truth that has been hidden from you and many in the world today. Can these be said of the money changing pastors who fly executive jets at your expense and leave you in abject spiritual poverty? See, in the long run you have been told, the decision and choice is yours that is how Jehovah God operates, he want you to make a choice that's all (Deuteronomy 30:19-20).

nogragra: What is your problem with the governing body that organised the most truthful religious body in the world today.

Achorladey: Words alone will not give us concreteness of the above, Give STATISTICS and FIGURES about what you post up there. Then show the CRITERIA, PARAMETERS, FACTORS you have USED to ASCERTAIN how TRUTHFUL the members of the RELIGIOUS BODY set up by the Governing Body.

nogragra: highest number of publications, world most translated website, preaching work and bible studies, number language translations (1000 languages), shedding more lights on the truth that has been hidden from you and many in the world today.

Achorladey: In the words of DESIDERATA.... If you compare yourself with others, You may become vane and bitter; For always there will be GREATER and LESSER persons than YOURSELF. Until you give your statistics in details then I might have a rethink. Distribution of FREE BIBLES alone the ORGANIZATION you are a member of DIDN'T come NEAR to some OTHER organization out there. Go find out.

and another


Area of CONCERN is the SHEDDING MORE LIGHT on the TRUTH. What truth are we talking about HERE? Please do tell how the TRUTH has indeed been HIDDEN in the WORLD today?

nogragra: Can these be said of the MONEY CHANGING PASTORS who fly executive jets at your expense and leave you in abject spiritual poverty? See, in the long run you have been told, the decision and choice is yours that is how Jehovah God operates, he want you to make a choice that's all (Deuteronomy 30:19-20)

Achorladey: The numerous ways the ORGANIZATION had set up for DONATION is just a link away, there you will see how the Governing Body of JWS get FUNDS to travel all over the world in the name of WORLDWIDE work. Or perhaps do they USE their OWN money when on TOUR or WHEN VISITING the BRANCH offices?

Please do tell us what ABJECT spiritual POVERTY do the pastors leave the members of their CHURCH?

nogragra: See, in the long run you have been told, the decision and choice is yours that is how Jehovah God operates, he want you to make a choice that's all (Deuteronomy 30:19-20)

Achorladey: Funny you, what have you made CLEAR that Hairy had to make a DECISION upon?

Here is Deuteronomy 30:19,20.....

Today I invoke heaven and earth as a witness against you that I have set life and death, blessing and curse, before you. Therefore choose life so that you and your descendants may live! 20 I also call on you to love the Lord your God, to obey him and be loyal to him, for he gives you life and enables you to live continually in the land the Lord promised to give to your ancestors Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.”

What does Hairy need to do?

nogragra:

With due respect, all you have just said is not based on the truth. They are fallacies and postulations based on worldly knowledge not according to the unattainable knowledge of Jehovah the all mighty (John 17:3).

Are you really sure of WHAT you are SAYING or you want to DEFLECT and DIVERT. Will you EVEN accept when the watchtower are cited and placed right here? You better go and carry your research well. ...

DON'T forget these are what you TERMED....... "FALLACIES"......"POSTULATIONS".........based on WORLDLY KNOWLEDGE..................

(All of a sudden the truth is now jehovah coming to destroy/kill/murder/slaughter people who don't believe some self appointed men in new York who call themselves gb or faithful and discreet slave are the only channel of communication between God and man today because they (gb) say so and you as humans are supposed to worship God through this channel (gb) to survive the upcoming destruction)

Just watch out for the below very soon..............

This means that the GOVERNING BODY will no longer be with us on earth. However, the great crowd will remain organized. Capable brothers (HELPERS to the GOVERNING BODY) from among the other sheep will TAKE the LEAD. We will need to show our LOYALTY by SUPPORTING these brothers and by following their God-given direction. OUR SURVIVAL will DEPEND ON IT!

But before THE ABOVE it would be good to SEARCH OUT for the below......

(w12 3/15 p. 20 par. 2 Rejoicing in Our Hope)
The other sheep should NEVER FORGET that THEIR SALVATION DEPENDS on their ACTIVE SUPPORT of CHRIST’S ANOINTED “BROTHERS” still on EARTH.

July, 2013 study issue: “2 The timely spiritual food we receive is proof that Jesus, the Head of the congregation, is keeping his promise to feed us. Through whom is he doing so? When giving the sign of his presence, Jesus said that he would use “the faithful and discreet slave” to give “food at the proper time” to his domestics. * (Read Matthew 24:45-47.) That FAITHFUL SLAVE is the CHANNEL THROUGH which Jesus is feeding his true followers in this time of the end. It is VITAL that we RECOGNIZE the faithful slave. OUR SPIRITUAL HEALTH AND our RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD DEPEND ON THIS CHANNEL.—Matt. 4:4; John 17:3.”

Did you see the THIS John 17:3...........hahahahahahahaha


From the above YOU will see that SALVATION DEPENDS on THE GOVERNING BODY of JWS NOW and VERY SOON it is DEPENDENT on HELPERS to the GOVERNING BODY.

Since the above is the case, all other people that are not part of the 8.5 millions of JWS what will be their FATE?

According to the post you responded to........... The REALITY of what you have been made to believe is THE BELOW captured earlier and in Hairyrapunzel's post you responded to earlier

All of a sudden the TRUTH is now JEHOVAH coming to DESTROY/KILL/MURDER/SLAUGHTER people who DON'T BELIEVE some self appointed men in new York who call themselves GB or FAITHFUL and DISCREET SLAVE are the only CHANNEL of COMMUNICATION between GOD and MAN TODAY(look out for where Matthew 4:4 was cited in the watchtower highlighted above).

nogragra:

Google is not even religious, but commercial and cannot even boast of anything near 1000 Languages. It is not something you just attain without the help of God. Other churches are richer than JW that rely only on voluntary contributions, but cannot achieve these in a life time- by their fruitage shall you know them. Even if you attain it for record purposes the question is can it be sustained like JW has been doing in their publications, preaching, and now hardly 20 years old website?

Achorladey: The KEY WORD here is BOAST. Why according to nogragra ........Even if you ATTAIN it for RECORD PURPOSES the QUESTION is can it be SUSTAINED like JW has been doing in their PUBLICATIONS, preaching, and now hardly 20 years old website?

How much do you KNOW the ORGANIZATION of JWS have and have you for ONCE SEEN the INCOME and EXPENDITURES ACCOUNT of the ORGANIZATION? HAHAHAHA. You better go and find OUT. An ORGANIZATION is TEARING DOWN old STORE HOUSES and BUILDING new and sophisticated ONES and you say they DONT have MONEY. Hahahahahahaha. Perhaps Kushner was given the PROPERTY he TOOK OVER free of CHARGE.

Pick up your yearbook and tell us the amount the ORGANIZATION do SPENT YEARLY to know if they HAVE Money or NOT. and yet you state the BELOW........

nogragra: OTHER CHURCHES are richer than JW that rely only on voluntary contributions.

nogragra:

For you information and enlightenment, when Jesus told the other accused person, that Today, he will meet him in paradise, what does he mean? Remember, a day before JEHOVAH GOD, is like a thousand years on earth. JESUS HIMSELF DID NOT ASCEND TO HEAVEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER HIS RESURRECTION ON THE THIRD DAY. SO HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT A LITERARY EARTHLY DAY. THINK ABOUT THIS AND TALK TO JEHOVAH'S WITTINESS AROUND YOUR AREA TO SHED MORE LIGHT OF THE TRUTH FOR YOU.

Since a day before JEHOVAH GOD, is like a thousand years on earth then stop the "the end is imminent" you shouldn't be faster than your jehovah.

nogragra:

Where do you get all these from check your facts right my dear friend.

Your watchtower magazines sir

Maximus69:


(1) Jesus gave an illustration regarding his newly formed group in the first century, the illustration was about a man sowing fine seeds in his field (Jesus), an enemy (Satan) came when me were sleeping and sow weeds in the same field, the owner told his servants who wanted to go and remove the weeds "let them both grow together until the harvest, by then you'll see clearly the fine seeds and the weeds"! Matthew 13:24-30

Of course after the death of all the Apostles (when men were sleeping) Satan began ruling the churches and dominated those who tried to raise any objections against falsehood by killing them, this continued until America declared freedom of speech, expression and worship. Then true Christians were liberated from the dominance of false Christians, that's why Jehovah's Witnesses could come out and began shining the light once again!

You may choose to ignore but it's obvious today that there is just one religious group globally that's exhibiting the fruit of God's holy spirit! Galatians 5:22-23

(2) You've said it all, the GOVERNING BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses aren't interested in the material possession of their members, but their

©Loyalty to the GB! Act 2:42
©Time! 2Tim 4:1-2, Ephe 5:15-16
©Money! 2Cor 9:7, Deut 15:10
©Energy in construction! Ezra 1:3
©Relationship with none members! 2Cor 6:14
©Disengage former society! Rev 18:4 Her 50:8


So obviously Jehovah's Witnesses are doing just the same thing their ancient ancestors did.


Case closed!

You are free to feel safe in your delusion, the scriptures you quoted have no word or phrase like dedication or governing body so your points have no connection with the issue at hand.

Is it not same watch tower that condemned trinity simply because the word is not found in the bible but they go about their faith based on doctrines and teachings not found in the bible?

You need to look beyond the fear you have for your GB, I understand how strongly you wish for them to be what they say they are, but the facts and evidence available does not support their claims.

nogragra:

May be that is why he's so much against them. No problem he can make a choice between their pastor DADDYS and Jehovah the almighty God. Don't we all have a choice to make in this world of imperfection we're all in?

Let me rephrase your post......

May be that is why you are so much against the CHURCHES. No problem you can make a choice between the GOVERNING BODY or as it will soon BE, HELPERS to the GOVERNING BODY and Jehovah the almighty God. Don't we all have a choice to make in this world of imperfection we're all in?

maximunimpact:


You are free to feel safe in your delusion, the scriptures you quoted have no word or phrase like dedication or governing body so your points have no connection with the issue at hand.

Is it not same watch tower that condemned trinity simply because the word is not found in the bible but they go about their faith based on doctrines and teachings not found in the bible?

You need to look beyond the fear you have for your GB, I understand how strongly you wish for them to be what they say they are, but the facts and evidence available does not support their claims.

You could have asked, Is Maximus69 part of the WHEAT?

maximunimpact:


You are free to feel safe in your delusion, the scriptures you quoted have no word or phrase like dedication or governing body so your points have no connection with the issue at hand.

Is it not same watch tower that condemned trinity simply because the word is not found in the bible but they go about their faith based on doctrines and teachings not found in the bible?

You need to look beyond the fear you have for your GB, I understand how strongly you wish for them to be what they say they are, but the facts and evidence available does not support their claims.

When Jesus walked this planet, only few Jews concluded that this Nazarene is the promised Messiah. Most of their contemporaries were asking questions based on what the scriptures said the Messiah will accomplish,
For instance

©The Christ (Messiah) will sit and establish the throne of David forever! Psalms 110:1-7, Isaiah 9:6-7
©He will crush and put an end to all worldly governments! Daniel 2:44
©He will judge the wicked and restored righteous rule and peace globally! Daniel 7:13-14

Those who disbelieved saying "Jesus couldn't have been the Christ (Messiah)" surely have a point! Because the young man never did all that, in fact he was arrested, killed and that was the end, nobody had of his so called rule apart from his followers who kept asserting that Jesus is alive and sitting at the right hand side of the Almighty God! Act 7:56


So the first century Christians uttered so much words and even penned down so much that most of their contemporaries will say "We understood how strongly you wish for this Jesus to be what he said he is but the facts and evidence available does not support his claim".

What helped those who believed back then to SEE beyond what others are seeing?

Well they believe God's word that according to the scriptures Elijah will appear to prepare the way before the Christ {Matthew 17:10-13},
Who revealed the identify of the promised Elijah?
No other person but Jesus himself!
Of course a skeptic will complained that God's word never said "John" but "Elijah", and such a critic will maintain his stand on that!

Please there will always be believers and there will be unbelievers as long as this crooked generation lasts, but the believers will be working together as a team that every right thinking individuals will notice them {Matthew 5:14-17, John 17:20-23} while unbelievers will be divided in their own understanding, form alliance against belivers yet deceiving themselves claiming they're also believers! Act 24:1-6 compared to Act 23:6-8

achorladey:



Let me rephrase your post......

May be that is why you are so much against the CHURCHES. No problem you can make a choice between the GOVERNING BODY or as it will soon BE, HELPERS to the GOVERNING BODY and Jehovah the almighty God. Don't we all have a choice to make in this world of imperfection we're all in?

After delivering a thought provoking speech, he told his disciples what will happen in the last days.
Many people will be confused as to who are the representatives of the Christ teaching people the TRUTH of God's word! Luke 17:22-23

Jesus' conclusion was "Where the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together" Luke 17:37

Eagles are known for farsightedness, so Jesus is saying "where you see those looking forward to what is FAR are GATHERED, that is where the BODY (those preparing the spiritual food) is"

If Jesus had said GOVERNING BODY, of course all these false religions will adopt the name just as they're all claiming Christians today! Isaiah 65:15

But he only mentioned BODY, and all the wise ones in this generation who kept looking FAR gathered round them, eating whatever the BODY is preparing! Matthew 24:45

Jesus likens the life saving spiritual food that he's giving to HIS BODY saying only those who eat his flesh and drink his blood will be saved! John 6:53

Well even a slowpoke today can understand what those who desert him back then failed to grasp because the LIGHT OF TRUTH IS GETTING BRIGHTER!

Jesus called this BODY his brothers {Matthew 25:31-46} and today they're globally known as the GOVERNING BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses.

It is this same BODY that has successfully gathered over 8,500,000 individuals from all races under the heavens together as one big happy family of peace loving worshippers today {John 17:20-23} feeding them weekly with timely information and making them zealous and industrious preachers and teachers everywhere they live. Matthew 24:14, 28:19-20

And you people can't even grasp all of these?

Hmmmmmmmmm, Jehovah's Witnesses may God bless you for all the time, effort and money you people spent to reach me!

Maximus69:


When Jesus walked this planet, only few Jews concluded that this Nazarene is the promised Messiah. Most of their contemporaries were asking questions based on what the scriptures said the Messiah will accomplish,
For instance

©The Christ (Messiah) will sit and establish the throne of David forever! Psalms 110:1-7, Isaiah 9:6-7
©He will crush and put an end to all worldly governments! Daniel 2:44
©He will judge the wicked and restored righteous rule and peace globally! Daniel 7:13-14

Those who disbelieved saying "Jesus couldn't have been the Christ (Messiah)" surely have a point! Because the young man never did all that, in fact he was arrested, killed and that was the end, nobody had of his so called rule apart from his followers who kept asserting that Jesus is alive and sitting at the right hand side of the Almighty God! Act 7:56


So the first century Christians uttered so much words and even penned down so much that most of their contemporaries will say "We understood how strongly you wish for this Jesus to be what he said he is but the facts and evidence available does not support his claim".

What helped those who believed back then to SEE beyond what others are seeing?

Well they believe God's word that according to the scriptures Elijah will appear to prepare the way before the Christ {Matthew 17:10-13},
Who revealed the identify of the promised Elijah?
No other person but Jesus himself!
Of course a skeptic will complained that God's word never said "John" but "Elijah", and such a critic will maintain his stand on that!

Please there will always be believers and there will be unbelievers as long as this crooked generation lasts, but the believers will be working together as a team that every right thinking individuals will notice them {Matthew 5:14-17, John 17:20-23} while unbelievers will be divided in their own understanding, form alliance against belivers yet deceiving themselves claiming they're also believers! Act 24:1-6 compared to Act 23:6-8

At the bolded: do you know that your words here also apply to JWs? The original bible students disintegrated into different sects after Pastor Russell passed on? Rutherford was able to gain control of the watch tower after legal battles with other ranking board members, it was after he gained total control, then in July 26, 1931, at a convention in Columbus, Ohio, Rutherford introduced the new name – Jehovah's witnesses. Other break aways took on different names and continued worship on similar doctrine but refuse to recognize the watch tower and the governing body as the faithful and discrete slave.

So if unity is what makes you think JWs are the only true religion, then you maybe able to convince millennials, but not me or students of history.

Even among you today, not everyone agrees that the GB or Watch tower has the sole right to SHED MORE LIGHT ON THE TRUTH, but sadly whoever questions their authority will be termed apostates and subsequently shunned and disfellowshiped.

John 4:23 says: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Worship is in Truth (Jesus Christ) and in spirit (Holy Spirit) and not a physical structure like the Church or kingdom hall.

maximunimpact:


At the bolded: do you know that your words here also apply to JWs? The original bible students disintegrated into different sects after Pastor Russell passed on? Rutherford was able to gain control of the watch tower after legal battles with other ranking board members, it was after he gained total control, then in July 26, 1931, at a convention in Columbus, Ohio, Rutherford introduced the new name – Jehovah's witnesses. Other break aways took on different names and continued worship on similar doctrine but refuse to recognize the watch tower and the governing body as the faithful and discrete slave.

So if unity is what makes you think JWs are the only true religion, then you maybe able to convince millennials, but not me or students of history.

Even among you today, not everyone agrees that the GB or Watch tower has the sole right to SHED MORE LIGHT ON THE TRUTH, but sadly whoever questions their authority will be termed apostates and subsequently shunned and disfellowshiped.

John 4:23 says: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Worship is in Truth (Jesus Christ) and in spirit (Holy Spirit) and not a physical structure like the Church or kingdom hall.

Hmmmmmmmmm you're almost there but why did you deviate from the main point again?

Whether Satan agree or not God's servants must be united as one BODY and they'll always standout as totally different from other religionists!


Charles Taze Russell is not the founder of this organization, that's why we are not following everything he taught back then!

Don't forget our watchword "the light is getting brighter" Proverbs 4:18

Even most of Rutherford's teachings have been refined because these guys aren't the founder of this organization!

The founder is an unseen mighty spirit being who physically founded the movement in the first century, but after his departure to heaven, Satan adulterated his group and the falsehood went on until his return in 1914! Luke 18:8

I need not tell you that he has been cleansing his group ever since then until those who aren't part of his own left to start their own group! Matthew 12:30

Jesus said "BY THEIR FRUIT YOU WILL KNOW THEM" Matthew 7:15

If those who left are for Jesus, their fruit will abound and people will feel their impact globally! Matthew 5:14-16

You yourself said this organization totally differs from all the others, as they're demanding exclusive devotion from each and every member! Mark 12:29-30

When Jesus said "you must love JEHOVAH with all your HEART, SOUL, MIND and STRENGTH" surely he meant exclusive devotion!

This means all those involved must have the same mindset, so that they view issues the same way!

You said those who question the authority of the GB are termed Apostates!

Please can you tell me what the first century Governing Body meant when they're telling those loyal to them to desist from whoever refuses to hold onto their teachings! 2Corinthians 6:14, Galatians 1:8, 1John 10-11, 2John 9-10, 3John 9

Or do you think they were talking about those who knew nothing about their teachings?

My friend, they were talking about those who refused to trust (believe) in them, otherwise if it's to avoid those who never had of them before, how will they preach to outsiders?

Perhaps you're insinuating that the first century Governing Body (Apostles) condone double standard amongst those following them?

Hairyrapunzel:


Your watchtower magazines sir

You that cannot even read a small verse given to you from the Bible can never read the watchtower. You can only fool your type not me.

Hairyrapunzel:



Since a day before JEHOVAH GOD, is like a thousand years on earth then stop the "the end is imminent" you shouldn't be faster than your jehovah.

I think the best thing is to leave you in your ignorance as you refused to exude wisdom and failed to learn from Jehovah the ultimate fountain of knowledge and wisdom.

nogragra:

I think the best thing is to leave you in your ignorance as you refused to exude wisdom and failed to learn from Jehovah the ultimate fountain of knowledge and wisdom.

He was disfellowshiped!

According to the scriptures, what do you expect from a disfellowshiped person who refuses to repent? Hebrew 10:26-27

Of course the sadist will wish JEHOVAH come down and destroy him because he's lost everything!

That's the present condition of Hairyrapunzel now. All his utterances is to ignite Jehovah's wrath but Jehovah deals with suchlike ones his own way!
They'll continue to beg for death but they'll not see death {Genesis 4:12-16} and they'll always see Jehovah's Witnesses happily worshiping God shoulder to shoulder, that's the greatest torment of all times! Luke 16:23

So like Satan the father of all fugitives, they're saddened each time they come across Jehovah's servants, they feel like stopping us from joyously worshiping our God {Job 1:12} Note how Sadists are desperate to stop pure worship!

maximunimpact:


At the bolded: do you know that your words here also apply to JWs? The original bible students disintegrated into different sects after Pastor Russell passed on? Rutherford was able to gain control of the watch tower after legal battles with other ranking board members, it was after he gained total control, then in July 26, 1931, at a convention in Columbus, Ohio, Rutherford introduced the new name – Jehovah's witnesses. Other break aways took on different names and continued worship on similar doctrine but refuse to recognize the watch tower and the governing body as the faithful and discrete slave.

So if unity is what makes you think JWs are the only true religion, then you maybe able to convince millennials, but not me or students of history.

Even among you today, not everyone agrees that the GB or Watch tower has the sole right to SHED MORE LIGHT ON THE TRUTH, but sadly whoever questions their authority will be termed apostates and subsequently shunned and disfellowshiped.

John 4:23 says: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

Worship is in Truth (Jesus Christ) and in spirit (Holy Spirit) and not a physical structure like the Church or kingdom hall.

I appreciate your knowledge of history and your ability to apply critical reasonings in your engagement so far. Kudos and God blessed.

Maximus69:


He was disfellowshiped!

According to the scriptures, what do you expect from a disfellowshiped person who refuses to repent? Hebrew 10:26-27

Of course the sadist will wish JEHOVAH come down and destroy him because he's lost everything!

That's the present condition of Hairyrapunzel now. All his utterances is to ignite Jehovah's wrath but Jehovah deals with suchlike ones his own way!
They'll continue to beg for death but they'll not see death {Genesis 4:12-16} and they'll always see Jehovah's Witnesses happily worshiping God shoulder to shoulder, that's the greatest torment of all times! Luke 16:23

So like Satan the father of all fugitives, they're saddened each time they come across Jehovah's servants, they feel like stopping us from joyously worshiping our God {Job 1:12} Note how Sadists are desperate to stop pure worship!

See someone calling someone sadist lol. You that wishes that destruction will come to those who don't believe that 8 old self appointed men called governing body and their gb helpers are the only channel of communication between God and man today. Lol

You that wishes destruction will come to people that don't believe that they should worship God only through their helpers and because gb said so. Lol

nogragra:

I think the best thing is to leave you in your ignorance as you refused to exude wisdom and failed to learn from Jehovah the ultimate fountain of knowledge and wisdom.

I just don't believe that gb are the only channel of communication between God and man today because they say so that's why you call me ignorant

I know your jehovah can't do more than a dead rat too and that's why you call me ignorant. Lol

nogragra:

Where do you get all these from check your facts right my dear friend.

Your watchtower magazines my dear. You guys love denying but when we quote them u always hide in shame.

nogragra:

You that cannot even read a small verse given to you from the Bible can never read the watchtower. You can only fool your type not me.

Lol. You that your gb (only route you have to eternal life) told you that if you read bible on your own without their help (their bible interpretation) will cause your slaughter/destruction in armageddon and vultures will eat your dead bodies like non jws is telling me I can't read a small verse in the bible.


Well, I read the whole chapter so I wouldn't use the small verse out of context

Maximus69:


After delivering a thought provoking speech, he told his disciples what will happen in the last days.
Many people will be confused as to who are the representatives of the Christ teaching people the TRUTH of God's word! Luke 17:22-23

Jesus' conclusion was "Where the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together" Luke 17:37

Eagles are known for farsightedness, so Jesus is saying "where you see those looking forward to what is FAR are GATHERED, that is where the BODY (those preparing the spiritual food) is"

If Jesus had said GOVERNING BODY, of course all these false religions will adopt the name just as they're all claiming Christians today! Isaiah 65:15

But he only mentioned BODY, and all the wise ones in this generation who kept looking FAR gathered round them, eating whatever the BODY is preparing! Matthew 24:45

Jesus likens the life saving spiritual food that he's giving to HIS BODY saying only those who eat his flesh and drink his blood will be saved! John 6:53

Well even a slowpoke today can understand what those who desert him back then failed to grasp because the LIGHT OF TRUTH IS GETTING BRIGHTER!

Jesus called this BODY his brothers {Matthew 25:31-46} and today they're globally known as the GOVERNING BODY of Jehovah's Witnesses.

It is this same BODY that has successfully gathered over 8,500,000 individuals from all races under the heavens together as one big happy family of peace loving worshippers today {John 17:20-23} feeding them weekly with timely information and making them zealous and industrious preachers and teachers everywhere they live. Matthew 24:14, 28:19-20

And you people can't even grasp all of these?

Hmmmmmmmmm, Jehovah's Witnesses may God bless you for all the time, effort and money you people spent to reach me!

That's why governing body went to add governing to the body to make themselves look like the body Jesus Christ talked of. I no fit laugh.

Hairyrapunzel:


That's why governing body went to add governing to the body to make themselves look like the body Jesus Christ talked of. I no fit laugh.

You can never see what i typed up there about the BODY in any of Watchtower's publication!
Because it requires diligent personal study to reach such a conclusion! Matthew 16:17

So PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, May you have PEACE!

I feel so sorry for all Jehovah's Witnesses because they are preaching and teaching falsehood. Through their doctrines, so many are in the very hell they don't believe exist. And they too will end up there. They are a bunch of religious body that has it's foundation in preconceived opinions and then look for scriptures to support such opinions. In summary, they are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light. Some of their falsehood are;

1. That Jesus didn't resurrect bodily. When asked what happened to his body, they said God could have melted it with chemicals. Even an earthly father wouldn't do that to his children talk more of God.

2. That what you do on earth is not what God will use to judge you. They said you will be judged by what you will do on judgment day which according to them will last for 1,000 years.

3. That there is no such thing as a place of torment known as hell fire. That hell is just a physical grave.

4. That the dead are completely unconscious when they die until resurrection day.

5. That Jesus is not coming back visibly. According to them, he has already come. So, we should not expect the coming of Jesus.

6. That only 144,000 will make heaven.

7. That Jesus is an angel.

8. That salvation is obtained by works.

9. That Jesus did not die on the cross but on a tree.

just to mention a few.

Come out from amongst them less you be destroyed. If you haven't join, please avoid them. Their teachings are about the most perverted. Those who stake their lives for this devilish organization have been slain from the foundation of the world. They are children of prediction who rejected the truth of the gospel. So they have to believe a lie instead whose destructions are just

Ken4Christ:
I feel so sorry for all Jehovah's Witnesses because they are preaching and teaching falsehood. Through their doctrines, so many are in the very hell they don't believe exist. And they too will end up there. They are a bunch of religious body that has it's foundation in preconceived opinions and then look for scriptures to support such opinions. In summary, they are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light. Some of their falsehood are;

1. That Jesus didn't resurrect bodily. When asked what happened to his body, they said God could have melted it with chemicals. Even an earthly father wouldn't do that to his children talk more of God.

2. That what you do on earth is not what God will use to judge you. They said you will be judged by what you will do on judgment day which according to them will last for 1,000 years.

3. That there is no such thing as a place of torment known as hell fire. That hell is just a physical grave.

4. That the dead are completely unconscious when they die until resurrection day.

5. That Jesus is not coming back visibly. According to them, he has already come. So, we should not expect the coming of Jesus.

6. That only 144,000 will make heaven.

7. That Jesus is an angel.

8. That salvation is obtained by works.

9. That Jesus did not die on the cross but on a tree.

just to mention a few.

Come out from amongst them less you be destroyed. If you haven't join, please avoid them. Their teachings are about the most perverted. Those who stake their lives for this devilish organization have been slain from the foundation of the world. They are children of prediction who rejected the truth of the gospel. So they have to believe a lie instead whose destructions are just

Why not try meditating on the word of the judge himself? His name is Jesus! He is the one God's word declared as the person coming to judge both the living and the dead!

His statement "By their fruit you will know them, people don't gather grapes from thorns nor figs from thistles, every good tree produces fine fruit and every bad tree produces rotten fruit" Matthew 7:15-17

Well let's consider what his followers believe regarding their Masters statement about FRUIT.

Apostle Paul said "The FRUIT OF GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, KINDNESS, GOODNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF CONTROL against such there is no law" Galatians 5:22-23

James (Jesus' half brother) said "you have faith, i have works, show me your faith without works and i will show you my faith through my works.....FAITH without WORKS is dead" James 2:18-26

Honest hearted and sincere observers have working brains to think Sir. If Jehovah's Witnesses aren't from God, there is no way they can form one big happy family of peace loving worshippers in a world filled with racism and discrimination! John 17:20-23

So it's you that need to have a rethink over what you were taught that's NOT WORKING OUT WHAT IS BENEFICIAL amongst you to the point that your religion is lost in the midst of countless groups claiming Christians without oneness in thought. Unlike Jehovah's Witnesses who are known for their unwavering faith, zeal and industriousness in the works of making peaceful followers throughout the earth! Romans 15:5-6, 1Corinthians 1:10, Ephesians 4:3

Go back and check what you were taught because if it's not working out what is fine Jesus said it's not his own "every good trees produces fine fruit and every bad tree produces rotten fruit"

Jehovah's Witnesses have produced so much fruits globally that's why religionists whose believes aren't unique like you keep dwelling on evil reports about them! Matthew 5:11-12

Our Master, Lord and King admonished us to pray for you people because you don't know what you're doing! Matthew 5:44, Luke 6:28

So May God bless you as you go back to study God's word but this time CAREFULLY like the Beroeans to ascertain whether what you were taught is the TRUTH! Act 17:11

Maximus69:


You can never see what i typed up there about the BODY in any of Watchtower's publication!
Because it requires diligent personal study to reach such a conclusion! Matthew 16:17

So PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, May you have PEACE!

Governing body say them be body when Jesus talk for bible and they said that you must believe it. Lol
No be only personal study.

They even have new light and have included gb helpers lol

Hairyrapunzel:


Governing body say them be body when Jesus talk for bible and they said that you must believe it. Lol
No be only personal study.

They even have new light and have included gb helpers lol

PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE!

Maximus69:


PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE!

Lol. So the former gb that are already dead don't believe same thing as this present gb.

Your present self appointed gb appointed some people and named them gb helpers and they told you that your salvation depends on believing these helpers because they will remain your leaders on paradise earth in addition to believing gb who will rule over you people from heaven .

Lol. Your religion is a big joke and scam