Mitocyan:

Lol if we are to go by this line of thought, anyone can claim anything and it won't do well to move us forward. So please re-examine these statements.

NuissancePolice:


I took the statistics and I am being generous. In reality, 0% actually have substantial proof. You can go to any church and verify

hupernikao:


You took the statistics?
You have taken statistics of well over 1 billion Christians in the world, over thousands of churches? And you have been in all? You must be the HEAD SUPERINTENDENT OF THE CHURCH worldwide then

See, First thing you should know in argument is not to lay out figures and information you cant provide evidence or be more specific. Give the numbers of churches you went to and how you took the record, simple.

NuissancePolice:


Ok. I concede to the opinion that I made up the statistics. Now, can you tell me one single verifiable and crystal clear cut evidence of God? If not, do not mention me again.

Now, can you tell me one single verifiable and crystal clear cut evidence of God?

If not, do not mention me again.

Ok. I concede to the opinion that I made up the statistics

Eagleboney:
That is a real prove of God existence, cos normally dead bodies are supposed to decay in in 2 or 3 years I guess ,
but seeing a dead body buried in decaying agent in 1145 still fresh and bleeding, Even producing sweet scents as at now is a mindblowing miracle ,
check it out on Google and watch the video,u will hardly believe that is a dead body ,u will think they are sleeping

hupernikao:


Atheist is the most misused word on Nairaland.

Fortunately for you, from you discussions here, it is obvious you arent an atheist, you are just a believer looking for answers to some unanswered questions.
Keep an open mind as you keep seeking for answers.

Mitocyan:


I am an atheist and you might want to educate yourself on the strict meaning: https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/

hupernikao:


Forget posting link. You dont need to tell me if you are an atheist or not. Your language structure, conversation, flow of explanation and your latent sentiments are enough to show you arent. But you can keep believing you are.

Like i told you, you will find answers someday as you keep seeking with an open mind.

Mitocyan:

Lol, I was once a Christian (like you, maybe). I took part in these kind of arguments and progressed from being rigid to being flexible to keeping an open mind to atheism. But what set me apart from friends that are still Christians today is that I always engaged honestly. Hopefully, your mind will open to the deception of religion and you'll be free someday.

Eagleboney:
bro I don't think science will even unravel or understand that mystery, scientists have already declared it a miracle officially,cause all their years in research have been futile

Eagleboney:
No I don't mean deist ,Darwin was a pure atheist until he saw the prove of God's existence and retraced his step

pes2019:
Since you use scripture first:

The first scripture here, man has been told what will come through acquiring several knowledge. It makes them questions God.

Question : At what point did you become atheist, we're u born atheist?

God is all knowing God, he knew that this will come up at some point in time so he said in Romans 1:22 & 25
KJV:Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
25: KJV:Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. . Base on research and proclaimed reality, why couldn't a developed country as China foretell the coming of coronavirus bro.
Plz be foolish so to be wise my brother.

1 Corinthians 1:20-21
KJV:Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21
KJV:For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.


It already foolishness, having the wisdom of this world, because it makes us question the existence of God, it took years for man to conclusively tell the rotation of earth round the sun, but the big question is can man ever stop researching, it's capital no, because in God's creation you can never know it all, man die trying to find it out, the documented knowledge is passed on to his group to continue but yet the earth remains, and inconclusive the research becomes.
Before we hear about 9 planets but now it's more than that, isn't that enough to acknowledge the existence of God.

Note: With the knowledge of all scientist put together, they can't fathom the existence of earth nor God, bro there are so many abandon research work, pls take up one. Bible call them

Psalm 14:1
NIV:The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.”

1 corinthians 3:19-20

NIV:For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness”;

NIV:and again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.”



Jeremiah 9:23-24
KJV:Thus saith the Lord, Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, neither let the mighty man glory in his might, let not the rich man glory in his riches:

24
KJV:But let him that glorieth glory in this, that he understandeth and knoweth me, that I am the Lord which exercise lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness, in the earth: for in these things I delight, saith the Lord.[b]2 thimoty 3:7 KJV:Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

jaephoenix:

They have been confirmed lies by science, long ago

Mitocyan:

Oh great. You are one step away from atheism then.

Mitocyan:

How does this say he doesnt belive in God? Him not holding orthodox Christian views does not in any way mean he didn't belive in God.

For the records though I am atheist.

hupernikao:


Forget posting link. You dont need to tell me if you are an atheist or not. Your language structure, conversation, flow of explanation and your latent sentiments are enough to show you arent. But you can keep believing you are.

Like i told you, you will find answers someday as you keep seeking with an open mind.

Mitocyan:

same thing a snake oil sales man would say because his claims are made up, but continue.

Mitocyan:

How does this say he doesnt belive in God? Him not holding orthodox Christian views does not in any way mean he didn't belive in God.

For the records though I am atheist.

hupernikao:




This sounds more like asking for equation or a YES/NO. But i will give you answer.

Are there clear cut evidence of God's existence? YES. So, why are you not seeing it? That is a question for you to answer.
When you were told God is supernatural but you kept seeking him in natural (science), how will you see evidence then. To disprove his none existence, you have to disprove it on the premise of the prove (supernatural) not in science. have you check that? the supernatural?



Are we quarreling so fast? You cant prove and disprove things by "dont mention me again". You should be able and available to give room for discussion even to the least of all men when you are seeking answers.




Dont you think that if you can make such mistake as above (of course we all do as human), you may likely be making mistake about your God non-existence too? You may realize over time and concede eventually.

Eagleboney:
Oga Na lie ,is it ur research team that confirmed it

Eagleboney:
Oga stop forming atheist ,atheist don't expose themselves ,their thoughts are inside them,unless if the need arises,

Eagleboney:
pride is disturbing the dude,even great atheists do not indecorously announce their faith like a layman like him do

jaephoenix:

Remember that story of the emperor that was sold a non-existent garment by a snake oil man. The Emperor convinced his empire that his garment is so beautiful that it is invisible. That is exactly how you sound. God is supernatural and awesome and most high. So we can't see in our mortal state.

jaephoenix:

Darwin was careful about uttering anti-theist views then. All his works centered on Evolution with his Origin of Species being the most celebrated. All this points to anti-theism, so he didn't outrightly voice out his belief, but pandered to Christianity as a way of pacifying his parish. By the way, his parents and wife are Freethinkers(ancient way of expressing atheism)

hupernikao:


Seriously? His parents were freethinker, yet he was careful to support such view because of religion Welldone!

jaephoenix:

hupernikao:


Was he afraid to air his view as a freethinker? That is your assertion. Was he? or you assumed that?
Stop giving assumption that you cant prove.

hupernikao:


Was he afraid to air his view as a freethinker? That is your assertion. Was he? or you assumed that?
Stop giving assumption that you cant prove.

Mitocyan:
Good move Nuisancepolice. I'm atheist and I like this discussion.