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Re: If God Is Omniscient, Why The Efforts? by oaroloye(m): 3:13am On Feb 19, 2020 |
MISHIGAS! kingxsamz: I TOOK TIME TO ADDRESS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF REALITY11'S ISSUES, AND CORRECTED ALL OF HIS MISCONCEPTIONS: ATHEISTS ARE SO DEVOID OF MORALITY, YOU EVEN LACK THE MANNERS TO SAY "THANK YOU, SIR?" You do not deserve answers! You should die, and then understand what a fool you are, as your Soul is destroyed out from under you. Why should I think and reason on my own, when I represent The Kingdom of God, and the only Authority is God? Are you the only person here, and familiar with all the facts I have revealed? You know none of them, and yet you feel that you can dismiss them! THE POST IS BASED ON THE OYINBO LIE THAT GOD HAS CLAIMED TO BE OMNISCIENT, OMNIPOTENT, AND OMNIPRESENT! Anyone who believes that lie can never find God, nor understand God. They do not believe in God, but in a lie. When I pointed that out, instead of acknowledging that he hated God based on a lie, he first DELIBERATELY LIED, and claimed to have read in The Bible that GOD CLAIMED TO BE OMNISCIENT OMNIPOTENT, and OMNIPRESENT, and that I was a fool who never read The Bible, and so did not know the places, which he claimed that he could quote. Then he called on his fellow shills, MUTTLEYLAFF, MRPRESIDENT, OLAADEGBE FROSBEL2 BLUEANGEL44 to show him what he claimed he already knew, but I didn't because I didn't read The Bible. REALITY11 claimed that he "read The Bible, and that made him an Atheist." That is an Oyinbo Atheist catchphrase, showing that he is writing according to a Script, and is probably being paid some mercenary fee, to push their agenda. The Oyinbos are hindered by the CENTURIES they have spent ABUSING THE BIBLE. God has HAD TO turn His Face from them, lest He Judge them for their INIQUITIES. That is why IT IS VERY HARD for any of them to FIND GOD. RICHARD DAWKINS smugly told BEN STEIN, when he asked him what he would ask GOD, if he met Him in the AfterLife, that he would say what LORD BERTRAND RUSSELL said he would say: "WHY DID YOU MAKE IT SO HARD FOR US TO FIND YOU?" [See: EXPELLED! NO INTELLIGENCE ALLOWED, by Ben Stein.] It is very simple! God holds every Human Being accountable for the Sins of their FAMILY to at least their THIRD GENERATION preceding them, AND THE SINS OF THEIR TOWN OF RESIDENCE, and THE SINS OF THEIR KINGDOM, and THE SINS OF THE HUMAN RACE. Before anyone can CONFRONT GOD, they must ASSUME RESPONSIBILITY for all those WORDS AND DEEDS AGAINST GOD. No one can up and say: "GOD! I AM A GOOD PERSON- YOU MUST LISTEN TO ME- AND GIVE ME WHAT I WANT!!!" When approaching God, the primary issue is your own Sins- but when you have addressed that, but STOP THERE, you show God that you do not understand RESPONSIBILITY at all! That you are not REPRESENTING YOUR FAMILY, YOUR NEIGHBOURHOOD, nor YOUR COUNTRY, but only YOURSELF- which is the primary cause of SIN to begin with! Also, most Christians only "repent" of Sins they can REMEMBER. They have thousands of instances of Sins they have CONVENIENTLY FORGOTTEN-ABOUT, and do not even RECOGNIZE as Sins. FORGETFULNESS IS NOT NATURAL! Using THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD as Frame of Reference, it is possible to unlock Hidden and Suppressed Memories. This is the first step in achieving TOTAL RECALL, which is the prerequisite to AFTERLIFE SURVIVAL. Creatures that DIE without TOTAL RECALL of their ENTIRE LIVES are DESTROYED within moments of their Deaths. [See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.] An Israelite Adult is expected to have spent seven years studying and applying The Bible, making definite Spiritual Progress, acquiring THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, so that by age 21, they are ready to be called to serve God. . THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.) 1. TOTAL RECALL. 2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. TELEKINESIS. 4. TELEPORTATION. 5. TRANSLATION. 6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE. THE LAW OF GOD BY MOSES is based on these Powers; THE GOSPEL OF YESHUA implements those Powers. You know nothing about these Powers, because you followed the Bible misinterpretations of Oyinbo False Christians, who desperately tried to justify their TransContinental Atrocities, do that their FootSoldiers could believe they would go to Heaven after dying to expand their paltry Empires. You have no one to blame but yourself. If you misunderstood The Bible, it could only be because YOU NEVER REPENTED OF YOUR OWN SINS- LET ALONE THOSE OF YOUR PARENTS, YOUR GRANDPARENTS, NOR YOUR GREAT-GRANDPARENTS. Let alone the Sins of your COUNTRY. The extensive damage done to your Mind and Soul have to be undone, before you can be a matured and fully sane being. However, you do not have to have perfect understanding to recognize that your WorldView and GodView are wrong, and you are ignorant of Right and Wrong. Reality11: THAT IS A STUPID QUESTION THAT SHOWS THAT YOU NEVER BOTHERED TO ACTUALLY READ ANY OF MY POSTS! Where I quote other people's Posts, I always answer whatever issues are contained in the quotation. I never write anything irrelevant, or useless. I give complete answers that enable the studious and diligent to proceed on their own, without needing anyone to enslave them under the guise of "guiding" them. A sane person, with manners, would use the Quotation facility, and take any part of my Post, and say: I DO NOT SEE THE RELEVANCE OF THESE REMARKS: COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THEM? You falsely claim to have read in The Bible that GOD claimed to be OMNISCIENT: I showed you Scriptures that prove that God could never have claimed that, having demonstrated, right From The Beginning that He does not have that attribute. You do not accept the correction, but instead claim ignorance of why I should incorporate your Post into my Post. That is how you earn the Damnation of HELL, presuming that you first achieve TOTAL RECALL. Reality11: THAT IS A FOOLISH QUESTION, BECAUSE YOU ALREADY ACCUSED ME OF WORSHIPPING ACCORDING TO SOME "JEWISH SECT," WHEN YOU HAD NO IDEA HOW I WORSHIP! How dare you insult your Senior, and then request further information! Becoming am Atheist means that you no longer need any vestige of decency nor manners? Is that what the Oyinbos who paid you to cast StumblingBlocks and sow Confusion have told you? |
Re: If God Is Omniscient, Why The Efforts? by oaroloye(m): 5:59am On Feb 19, 2020 |
MISHIGAS! Joshmodest: LIE ONE: SHOW WHERE GOD EVER DECLARED HIMSELF TO BE OMNISCIENT! . GENESIS 18:20-21. 20. And The LORD Said, "Because the Cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their Sin is very grievous; 21. "I will go down now, and See whether they have done altogether according to the Cry of it, which is come unto Me; and if not, I will know." Joshmodest: LIE TWO: GOD ONLY KNOWS THE NUMBER THAT HE INVITED: HE CANNOT KNOW HOW MANY- OR EVEN, IF ANY- WILL ACCEPT, NOR BE READY, WHEN HE ORDERS A HALT TO RECRUITMENT! . MATTHEW 25:1-13. "THEN shall The Kingdom of Heaven be likened unto ten Virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the Bridegroom. 2. "And five of them were Wise, and five were Foolish. 3. "They that were Foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4. "But the Wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. 5. "While the Bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. 6. "And at midnight there was a cry made, BEHOLD, THE BRIDEGROOM COMETH; GO YE OUT TO MEET HIM.' 7. "Then all those Virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8. "And the Foolish said unto the Wise, 'GIVE US OF YOUR OIL; FOR OUR LAMPS ARE GONE OUT.' 9. "But the Wise answered, saying, 'NOT SO; LEST THERE BE NOT ENOUGH FOR US AND YOU: BUT GO YE RATHER TO THEM THAT SELL, AND BUY FOR YOURSELVES.' 10. "And while they went to buy, the Bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the Marriage: and the door was shut. 11. "Afterward came also the other Virgins, saying, 'LORD, LORD, OPEN TO US.' 12. "But he answered and said, 'Verily I say unto you, "I KNOW YOU NOT." ' 13. "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the Day nor the Hour wherein The Son of Man cometh. Joshmodest: LIE THREE: GOD DID NOT KNOW THAT ADAM WAS GOING TO SIN, NOR THAT THEY HAD SINNED. . GENESIS 3:8-13. 8. And they heard The Voice of The LORD God Walking in the Garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from The Presence of The LORD God amongst the Trees of the Garden. 9. And The LORD God called unto Adam, and Said unto him, "Where art thou?" 10. And he said, "I heard Thy Voice in the Garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." 11. And He Said, "Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I Commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?" 12. And the Man said, "The Woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat." 13. And The LORD God Said unto the Woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the Woman said, "The Serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." Joshmodest: LIES FOUR AND FIVE: FIRSTLY- FIRE DOES NOT BURN THOSE IN HELL: . DANIEL 3:19-27. 19. Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated. 20. And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace. 21. Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. 22. Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. 23. And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. 24. Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, "Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire?" They answered and said unto the king, "True, O king." 25. He answered and said, "Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like The Son of God." 26. Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, "Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, ye Servants of The Most High God, come forth, and come hither." Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, came forth of the midst of the fire. 27. And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's Counsellors, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them. SECONDLY: GOD HAS NO WAY OF KNOWING WHO WILL ACCEPT HIS INVITATION, AND WHO WON'T. . LUKE 14:15-24. 15. And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, "Blessed is he that shall eat bread in The Kingdom of God." 16. Then said he unto him, "A certain man made a great Supper, and bade many: 17. "And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, 'COME; FOR ALL THINGS ARE NOW READY.' 18. "And they all with one (consent) began to make excuse. The first said unto him, 'I HAVE BOUGHT A PIECE OF GROUND, AND I MUST NEEDS GO AND SEE IT: I PRAY THEE HAVE ME EXCUSED. 19. "And another said, 'I HAVE BOUGHT FIVE YOKE OF OXEN, AND I GO TO PROVE THEM: I PRAY THEE HAVE ME EXCUSED.' 20. "And another said, I HAVE MARRIED A WIFE, AND THEREFORE I CANNOT COME.' 21. "So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, 'GO OUT QUICKLY INTO THE STREETS AND LANES OF THE CITY, AND BRING IN HITHER THE POOR, AND THE MAIMED, AND THE HALT, AND THE BLIND.' 22. "And the servant said, 'LORD, IT IS DONE AS THOU HAST COMMANDED, AND YET THERE IS ROOM.' 23. 'And the lord said unto the servant, 'GO OUT INTO THE HIGHWAYS AND HEDGES, AND COMPEL THEM TO COME IN, THAT MY HOUSE MAY BE FILLED. 24. "FOR I SAY UNTO YOU, 'THAT NONE OF THOSE MEN WHICH WERE BIDDEN SHALL TASTE OF MY SUPPER.' " Joshmodest: LIE SIX: GOD DOES NOT KNOW ANYONE WHO IS NOT INTRODUCED TO HIM BY HIS SON. Neither of Them have any way of knowing who that will be before they Convert. Note that none of The Twelve Disciples ever Converted. . MATTHEW 10:32-33. 32. "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father Which is in Heaven. 33. "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father Which is in Heaven." Joshmodest: LIES SEVEN AND EIGHT: FIRSTLY, ONLY THOSE SINNERS WHO HAVE ATTAINED THE RIGHT TO LIVE IN THE AFTERLIFE CAN GO TO HELL. . LUKE 12:46. 46. "The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers." [See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.] SECONDLY: GOD CANNOT KNOW WHERE YOU WILL GO, BECAUSE HE DOES NOT KNOW WHETHER YOU WILL REPENT OR NOT, BECAUSE HE DOES NOT KNOW YOU, NOR DOES HE WANT TO KNOW YOU. . JOHN 3:14-21. 14. "And as Moses lifted up the Serpent in the Wilderness, even so must The Son of Man be lifted up: 15. "That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have Eternal Life. 16. "For God so loved the World, that He gave His only Begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not Perish, but have Everlasting Life. 17. "For God sent not His Son into the World to Condemn the World; but that the World through him might be Saved. 18. "He that believeth in him is not Condemned: but he that believeth not is Condemned Already, because he hath not believed in The Name of The Only Begotten Son of God. 19. "And this is The Condemnation, 'THAT LIGHT IS COME INTO THE WORLD, AND MEN LOVED DARKNESS RATHER THAN LIGHT, BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS WERE EVIL.' 20. "For every one that doeth Evil hateth The Light, neither cometh to The Light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21. "But he that doeth Truth cometh to The Light, that his deeds may be manifest, that they are wrought in God." Joshmodest: LIE NINE: THE PHARISEES INVENTED THE DOCTRINE OF "PREDESTINATION" TO JUSTIFY THEIR PERSECUTION OF THE TRULY RIGHTEOUS- "IF GOD DID NOT WANT THEM TO PERSECUTE HIS SERVANTS, HE WOULD KNOW BEFOREHAND, AND SEND THEM A SIGN." They were only doing what HE had "PREDESTINATED" them to do. . LUKE 16:13-15. 13. "No Servant can serve two Masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." 14. And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things, and they derided him. 15. And he Said unto them, "Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed amongst men is Abomination in The Sight of God." A PERSON WHO ATTAINS THE 40th LEVEL OF AWARENESS CAN CHANGE THEIR PREDICTED DESTINY- EVEN IF IT WAS PREDICTED BY GOD. That is called SELF-DETERMINISM. [See: SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard. THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.] Jahkye: SHALOM! I THINK I SEE YOUR PROBLEM: WERE YOU TRYING TO UNDERLINE THOSE POSTS YOU STRUCK OUT? I don't know why there is no UNDERLINE Button. Nonetheless, ".... "is the code you need. There are also apps you can use to type HTML5. SHALOM! profolaolu: . DEUTERONOMY 30:19-20. 19. I call Heaven and Earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you Life and Death, Blessing and Cursing: therefore CHOOSE LIFE, That both thou and thy seed may live: 20. That thou mayest love The LORD thy God, And that thou mayest obey His Voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto Him: for He is thy Life, and the Length of thy days: That thou mayest dwell in the land which The LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHATEVER THEY WANT FOR THEIR LIFE- OTHERWISE THERE WOULD BE NO CONSEQUENCES FOR OUR SINS. It is our DUTY to CHOOSE LIFE. kingxsamz: THE QUESTION WAS: "IF GOD IS OMNISCIENT, WHY THE EFFORT TO SAVE ME?" I believe that the question why God should make efforts to save people was addressed, even though PROFOLAOLU was wrong to say that the number of those Saved is not PREDESTINED. Of course it is. How could it not be? Obviously, THE END OF THE WORLD comes about when God finally has the number that He wants. There is NOT infinite ROOM for Salvation: IT IS "FIRST-COME-ONLY-SERVED!" People who try to be Saved TOO LATE will simply NOT be Saved. Lord Yeshua Taught that EXPLICITLY. Reality11: THAT IS A STUPID QUESTION, BECAUSE GOD HAS NEVER CLAIMED TO BE OMNISCIENT, AND DOES NOT KNOW THOSE TO WHOM HE HAS NEVER BEEN INTRODUCED. You pretended to know from The Bible- which does not even contain the TERM "OMNISCIENT," that God was Omniscient! judedwriter: Reality11: I WONDER WHY NO ONE IS THIS POLITE TO ME- ASKING THE RELEVANCIES, INSTEAD OF DECLARING THAT THERE ARE NONE? Well, if you do not love God, you cannot understand Him. If you understand Him, you won't ask such stupid questions which have no basis in Reality, claiming Attributes for God that He never claimed, nor asked anyone to believe in. kingxsamz: THE QUESTION: "IF GOD IS OMNISCIENT, WHY THE EFFORT?" IS NOT SIMPLE- IT IS BASED ON A LIE, BECAUSE GOD IS NOT OMNISCIENT! You were unable to answer the question, since you are even less intelligent than "SIMPLEMINDED." kingxsamz: THIS RUDE RESPONSE SHOWS HOW BLIND AND STUPID YOU ARE! . DEUTERONOMY 8:1-6. ALL The Commandments Which I Command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which The LORD Sware unto your fathers. 2. And thou shalt remember all the Way which The LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep His Commandments, or no. 3. And He humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with Manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that He might make thee know that "MAN DOTH NOT LIVE BY BREAD ONLY BUT BY EVERY (WORD) THAT PROCEEDETH OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE LORD DOTH MAN LIVE." 4. Thy raiment waxed not old upon thee, neither did thy foot swell, these forty years. 5. Thou shalt also consider in thine heart, "THAT, AS A MAN CHASTENETH HIS SON, SO THE LORD THY GOD CHASTENETH THEE." 6. Therefore thou shalt keep The Commandments of The LORD thy God, to walk in His Ways, and to fear Him. . DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5. 32. What thing soever I Command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. IF there arise among you a Prophet, or a Dreamer of Dreams, and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder, 2. And the Sign or the Wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, "LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS, WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN, AND LET US SERVE THEM;" 3. Thou shalt not hearken unto The Words of that Prophet, or that Dreamer of Dreams: for The LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love The LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4. Ye shall walk after The LORD your God, and fear Him, and keep His Commandments, and obey His Voice, and ye shall serve Him, and cleave unto Him. 5. And that prophet, or that Dreamer of Dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from The LORD your God, Which brought you out of the Land of Egypt, and Redeemed you out of the House of Bondage, to thrust thee out of The Way which The LORD thy God Commanded thee to walk in. IN ORDER TO KNOW ABOUT GOD, YOU HAVE TO STUDY HIS WORD! If you do not judge God by His own descriptions and depictions of His Attributes in the SACRED SCRIPTURES, you are not talking about THE REAL GOD, but a MADE-UP FANTASY. How is it "logical" to make up stupid and untenable False Beliefs about God, and then pretend that they are The Truth about God, and demand that Believers in God, Who know His Word, even since before you were aborted, should disregard The Word of our God, to try to rationalize your Foolish Fantasy? I read: ATHEISM: The Case Against GOD, by George H. Smith, and found that they have no case, because the fool went on-and-on-and-on about how illogical and untenable THE MADE-UP GOD OF THE OYINBO PHILOSOPHERS AND THEOLOGIANS- Who supposedly has OMNISCIENCE, OMNIPOTENCE, and OMNIPRESENCE- but NEVER uses them for ANYTHING- is. Whereas, he never once addressed the ACTUAL GOD OF THE BIBLE- Who has NEVER in ANY Book, Chapter, or Verse claimed ANY of those attributes. kingxsamz: NONE OF YOUR REASONINGS ARE YOUR OWN, BUT COME FROM YOUR OYINBO COLONIAL MASTERS- WHO NO DOUBT ARE PAYING YOU TO DISPENSE THEIR PROPAGANDA TO THE PUBLIC. . JOHN 3:34-36. 34. "For he whom God hath sent speaketh The Words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. 35. "The Father loveth The Son, and hath given All Things into his hand. 36. "He that believeth on The Son hath Everlasting Life: and he that believeth not The Son shall not see Life; but The Wrath of God abideth on him." I am proud to say that I do not "THINK FOR MYSELF," concerning my Religion, but FOLLOW WHAT MY SCRIPTURES SAY- and don't make up IMAGINARY BELIEFS- like: "EVERY WORD OF THE BIBLE IS INSPIRED BY GOD!" or, "IF I REPENT ON MY DEATHBED, I WILL STILL GO TO HEAVEN!" or, "I AM EXPECTED TO FOLLOW MY RELIGION WITHOUT ANY PROOF THAT IT LEADS TO GOD!" and other Oyinbo self-serving misrepresentations of Christianity. . THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.) 1. TOTAL RECALL. 2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION. 3. TELEKINESIS. 4. TELEPORTATION. 5. TRANSLATION. 6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE. I am following a specified PATH toward a specific GOAL. I could walk It alone, but I AM NOBLE: therefore, I expend effort to make it possible for others to follow. That will make no sense to the fools who only think of themselves, and care nothing about others. |
Re: If God Is Omniscient, Why The Efforts? by Reality11: 10:43am On Feb 19, 2020 |
oaroloyeHope you know that their are numerous sect in Christianity with almost or completely different doctrines beliefs or interpretation of the Bible. And from all my questions I've asked if god is omniscient or not and all those that quoted me answered yes. In this case their is no point in discussing with you. The question is directed to those that hold on to such beliefs. I can see you have been crying that we are following the ideas of some people just because I and kingxsamz question the belief and ideas of god as portrayed by some Christians as being omniscient in respect to hell/heaven
So because your brain does not have the capacity to think and reason for itself but only relay on a book written by some primitive Jewish herders which was brought to you by some white missionaries telling you about what their go is, what he wants and how he wants you to live your life Makes you think everyone is like you abi? Why are you so better, why calling someone .fool? If you don't have answers or explanation is not a must to quote! people And how does writing a very long epistle with quotation from a Jewish Scripture makes your post any reasonable? |
Re: If God Is Omniscient, Why The Efforts? by oaroloye(m): 6:13pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
COWARDS! . LEVITICUS 19:32-37. 32. Thou shalt rise up before the hoary head, and honour the face of the old man, and fear thy God: I (am) The LORD. 33. "And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. 34. " (But) the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I (am) The LORD your God. 35. "Ye shall do no unrighteousness in Judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or in measure. 36. "Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I (am) The LORD your God, Which brought you out of the land of Egypt. 37.Therefore shall ye observe all My Statutes, and all My Judgments, and do them: I am The LORD." . NUMBERS 15:27-31. 27. "And if any man Sin through Ignorance, then he shall bring a She Goat of the first year for a Sin Offering. 28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement for the Soul that Sinneth Ignorantly, when he Sinneth by Ignorance before The LORD, to make an Atonement for him, and it shall be forgiven him. 29. " Ye shall have one Law for him that Sinneth Ignorantly (both for) him that is born among the Children of Israel, and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them. 30. "But the Soul that doeth (ought) presumptuously, (whether he be) born in the land, or a Stranger, the same reproacheth The LORD; and that Soul shall be cut off from among his people. 31. "Because he hath despised The Word of The LORD, and hath broken His Commandment, that Soul shall utterly be cut off; his Iniquity (shall be) upon him." . DEUTERONOMY 6:4-9. 4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: 5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God with all thine Heart, and with all thy Soul, and with all thy might. 6. And these Words, which I Command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of Them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8. And thou shalt bind Them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9. And thou shalt write Them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates. NO CHURCH IN THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING WORLD PREACHES THAT THERE IS NO ATONEMENT FOR DELIBERATE SINS! Therefore, no one can accuse ME of preaching a Doctrine that ANYONE ELSE- Hebrew Israelite, Jewish Proselyte, or Gentile preaches. My Doctrines are the ONLY TRUE FUNDAMENTAL TEACHINGS- ALL others are corruptions of The Truth. I do not just SAY this- I SHOW THIS. If you readers do not stand up, NOW, to support what you know to be correct, GOD WILL IGNORE YOU, when you finally agree that you need Him. Reality11: IF YOU WERE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO THINK FOR YOURSELF, YOU WOULD DETERMINE THAT ALL OF THOSE DENOMINATIONS, SECTS, AND CULTS CANNOT BE CORRECT. If you were intelligent, you would know that ONLY ONE FOLLOWERSHIP can be CORRECT, and all the rest are WRONG. . MATTHEW 7:12-29. 12. "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is The Law and The Prophets. 13. "Enter ye in at the strait Gate: for wide is the Gate, and broad is the Way, that leadeth to Destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14. "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the Way, which leadeth unto Life, and few there be that find It. 15. Beware of False Prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16. "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17. "Even so every Good Tree bringeth forth Good Fruit; but a Corrupt Tree bringeth forth Evil Fruit. 18. "A Good Tree cannot bring forth Evil Fruit, neither can a Corrupt Tree bring forth Good Fruit. 19. "Every Tree that bringeth not forth Good Fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20. "Wherefore by their Fruits ye shall know them. 21. "Not every one that saith unto me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into The Kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth The Will of my Father, Which is in Heaven. 22. "Many will say to me in That Day, 'LORD, LORD, HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN THY NAME? AND IN THY NAME HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS? AND IN THY NAME DONE MANY WONDERFUL WORKS?' 23. "And then will I profess unto them, 'I NEVER KNEW YOU: DEPART FROM ME, YE THAT WORK INIQUITY.' 24. "Therefore whosoever heareth these Sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a Wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25. "And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26. "And every one that heareth these Sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a Foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27. "And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it." 28. And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these Sayings, the people were astonished at his Doctrine: 29. For he Taught them as (one) having Authority, and not as the Scribes. AN INTELLIGENT PERSON WOULD KNOW THAT CORRECT CHRISTIANITY IS FOLLOWING THE ONE CALLED CHRIST- NOT FOLLOWING PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT THEY ARE FOLLOWING CHRIST. That Religion was started by the so-called "APOSTLES," and was perpetuated by the Oyinbo Insane Races. Somehow, they thought that BREAKING GOD'S COMMANDMENTS DOES NOT MATTER- IF THEY CAN BLAME IT ON SOMEONE ELSE! That never worked in The Garden of Eden: why do people think that it will work for THEM? Reality11: .. LUKE 16:1-15. AND he said also unto his Disciples, "There was a certain rich man, which had a steward; and the same was accused unto him that he had wasted his goods. 2. "And he called him, and said unto him, 'HOW IS IT THAT I HEAR THIS OF THEE? GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF THY STEWARDSHIP; FOR THOU MAYEST BE NO LONGER STEWARD.' 3. "Then the steward said within himself, 'WHAT SHALL I DO? FOR MY LORD TAKETH AWAY FROM ME THE STEWARDSHIP: I CANNOT DIG, TO BEG I AM ASHAMED. 4. 'I AM RESOLVED WHAT TO DO, THAT, WHEN I AM PUT OUT OF THE STEWARDSHIP, THEY MAY RECEIVE ME INTO THEIR HOUSES.' 5. "So he called every one of his lord's debtors unto him, and said unto the first, 'HOW MUCH OWEST THOU UNTO MY LORD?' 6. "And he said, 'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF OIL.' And he said unto him, 'TAKE THY BILL, AND SIT DOWN QUICKLY, AND WRITE FIFTY.' 7. "Then said he to another, 'AND HOW MUCH OWEST THOU?' And he said, 'AN HUNDRED MEASURES OF WHEAT.' And he said unto him, 'TAKE THY BILL, AND WRITE FOURSCORE.' 8. "And the lord commended the Unjust Steward, because he had done wisely: for the Children of this World are in their Generation wiser than the Children of Light. 9. "And I Say unto you, 'MAKE TO YOURSELVES FRIENDS OF THE MAMMON OF UNRIGHTEOUSNESS; THAT, WHEN YE FAIL, THEY MAY RECIEVE YOU INTO EVERLASTING HABITATIONS.' 10. "He that is Faithful in that which is Least is Faithful also in Much: and he that is Unjust in the Least is Unjust also in Much. 11. "If therefore ye have not been Faithful in the Unrighteous Mammon, who will commit to your trust The True Riches? 12. "And if ye have not been Faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own? 13. "No Servant can serve two Masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and Mammon." 14. And the Pharisees also, who were Covetous, heard all these things, and they derided him. 15. And he Said unto them, "Ye are they which justify yourselves before Men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is Highly Esteemed amongst Men is Abomination in The Sight of God." ONLY A FOOL WOULD THINK THAT THEIR VAIN UTTERANCES MEAN ANYTHING- NO SCRIPTURE OF THE BIBLE SAYS THAT GOD IS OMNISCIENT. I have quoted Scriptures that have shown God as being ignorant of what had happened in Past Time, and what was happening in Present Time, that prove that OMNISCIENCE IS NOT ONE OF HIS ATTRIBUTES. . GENESIS 3:8-13. 8. And they heard The Voice of The LORD God Walking in the Garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from The Presence of The LORD God amongst the Trees of the Garden. 9. And The LORD God called unto Adam, and Said unto him, "Where art thou?" 10. And he said, "I heard Thy Voice in the Garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." 11. And He Said, "Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I Commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?" 12. And the Man said, "The Woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat." 13. And The LORD God Said unto the Woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the Woman said, "The Serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." . GENESIS 18:20-21. 20. And The LORD Said, "Because the Cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their Sin is very grievous; 21. "I will go down now, and See whether they have done altogether according to the Cry of it, which is come unto Me; and if not, I will know." IF GOD WERE OMNISCIENT, HE WOULD NOT NEED TO INVESTIGATE AND ASK QUESTIONS. The Doctrine of THE OMNISCIENCE OF GOD was used by the PHARISEE HYPOCRITES to JUSTIFY themselves for committing WICKED ACTS- such as using WORD GAMES to TRICK people into INCRIMINATING statements, so that they could kill husbands, and take their stuff, impoverishing their widows. PAUL, the PHARISEE Undercover Spy, used It to JUSTIFY his bringing about the DEATHS of hundreds into thousands of First Christians. The OYINBOS used it to justify their CHRISTIAN vs CHRISTIAN vs PRIMITIVE PEOPLES' Warfare, Plundering, and Enslavement. Reality11: YOUR QUESTION IS INCOMPLETE, WHEN YOU DO NOT ASK THEM TO PROVIDE PROOF THAT GOD HAS SUCH AN ATTRIBUTE. None of those whom you approve of can show any such proof. Reality11: WHOEVER BLASPHEMES GOD HAS GREAT FUN IN PRESENT-TIME- BUT THEY WILL ONE DAY HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. . ACTS 26:8-11. 8. "Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead? 9. "I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth. 10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the Chief Priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them. 11. "And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities." kingxsamz: oaroloye: THE BIBLE REPORTS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN MEN THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE WISER THAN GOD. Following the Teachings of God's LAWFUL MESSENGERS, I arrived at The True Treasure of God: THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER Doctrine. Religions and Spiritual Systems once violently suppressed by the OYINBOS confirm that the normal OYINBO WAY-OF-LIFE causes a 90% LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS. OYINBO SCIENCE did not begin to acknowledge this until the late 19th Century. [Search: BORIS SIDIS, WILLIAM SIDIS, WILLIAM JAMES.] This was quickly suppressed, until an amateur researcher proved that ANYONE, irrespective of age, could enjoy the restoration of their lost consciousness. [See: DIANETICS: The Modern Science of Mental Health, by L. Ron Hubbard (1950).] The Oyinbo Secret Government: THE ILLUMINATI, hysterically reacted to suppress the "threat" of this new Knowledge. THEY DO NOT WANT THE GENERAL PUBLIC BEING ABLE TO FULLY OPTIMIZE THEIR CONSCIOUSNESS. Reality11: THIS IS OYINBO PROPAGANDA, THAT YOU BLINDLY RELAY, WITHOUT INTELLIGENT THOUGHT. The average Oyinbo "Intellectual" is a CITY-DWELLER, who looks down upon send hates the "JEWS," even though very few of them know that they are IMPOSTOR IDENTITY-THIEVES- Oyinbos who converted to JUDAISM in the 9th Century, and took over the Religion, just like they took over America. [See: THE INTERNATIONAL JEW: The World's Most Foremost Problem, by Henry Ford (c.1920).] They look down upon CATTLE HERDERS. Do YOU think that YOU could CONTROL send MANAGE a Herd of Goats? Do you think that your University Degree makes you BETTER than a SHEPHERD? DAVID was a typical Shepherd boy, and before he faced the giant, GOLIATH, he faced a LION and a BEAR in SINGLE COMBAT- and WON- handily. Could RICHARD DAWKINS do that? The OYINBOS came to NIGERIA, and sneered at BENIN CITY, as a HAPHAZARDLY-LAID-OUT Settlement. Hundreds of years later, they realized that it was ORGANIZED according to the principles of FRACTAL MATHEMATICS- which they didn't know EXISTED until 1975- where they claim one BENOÎT MANDBROT (1925-2010) INVENTED It. [See: AFRICAN FRACTALS: Modern Computing and Indigenous Design, by Ron Eglash (1999).] How dare you talk down on HEBREW ISRAELITE Prophets, because Oyinbos bribed you to betray your own people! These people received their Revelations from GOD by EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION, which is the NEXT STEP after attaining TOTAL RECALL. TOTAL RECALL is of SUPREME importance. [See: LIMITLESS, starring Bradley Cooper and Robert de Niro (2011). LIMITLESS, starring Jake McDorman, Jennifer Carpenter, and Hill Harper (2015).] The DIANETICS Technique of Mental Optimization is the application of the PARAPHRASED Principles of TWO Chapters of The Bible: . LEVITICUS 11:1-47. . MATTHEW 18:1-35. The success of SCIENTOLOGY proves that the Ancient Prophets possessed the means of enhancing their Consciousness, whereas the OYINBOS have deliberately suppressed it, in all iterations of False Christianity. Reality11: NO. NO OTHER CHRISTIAN LIKE ME EXISTS IN THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING WORLD AT THIS TIME Reality11: YOU HAVE WILLFULLY DESTROYED YOUR ETERNAL DESTINY, BY BELIEVING OYINBO LIES ABOUT GOD- THAT IS CALLED "FOOLISHNESS!" You pretended to believe that my Christian Beliefs had to be the same ones as those of the Ancient Israrlites, and those of the Oyinbo Missionary Colonial Spies. That is foolishness. Reality11: THAT IS A STUPID QUESTION. I have exposed and corrected all of your lies and misconceptions, in order to help you. . MATTHEW 7:1-6. "JUDGE not, that ye be not judged. 2. "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3. "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but consideredst not the beam that is in thine own eye? 4. "Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, 'LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE OUT OF THINE EYE;' And behold, a beam (is) in thine own eye. 5. "Thou Hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye. 6. "Give not that which is Holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again, and rend you." BUT "DOGS" AND "PIGS" JUST CANNOT BE HELPED. |
Re: If God Is Omniscient, Why The Efforts? by Reality11: 8:00pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
Oaroloye Yeah all the sect can't be right, but what's my business with which sect practice the right type. Every sect would claim to be the right one with the right doctrine and interpretation of the bible. So am not the one to tell who or which is a Christian or not. I checked your threads and post and you seem to have a very different doctrine, belief or ideas from the very vast Christians I know of. Would you mind telling me your sect, its core teaching and beliefs in summary? And your post tend to be very very looong I doubt if people would have the patience to read them. |
Re: If God Is Omniscient, Why The Efforts? by Nobody: 10:36pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
Reality11:you are not making sense, humans are not naturally God's children. Following your logic what if you refuse to put in the effort of tutoring the child and the child finally fails wont the blame be on you? If christ had died only for sone people it would have portrayed him as partial even though he knew those other will perish anyway God gets angry at sinners because he hates sin. |
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