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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by jmaine: 11:36pm On Feb 17, 2020
0m0nnakoda:

Higher is an English word in the dictionary
Check it up

Analogy is an English word in the dictionary.. Check it up ..

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by jmaine: 11:41pm On Feb 17, 2020
funmisticqueen2:
only in Nigeria. Medical doctors are one of the richest professional in other countries. That's why a lot of Nigerian doctrs are leaving the country and doing well there. But don't worry, your wife will treat you but for the other clueless ones following your footsteps, who will treat them?

You wife and in-laws, do they have a PhD, and if they do, do they have it in a clinical specialty? Do they see sick patients with their PhD?

I don't think any of my lecturers who are in the clinical settings in clinical medicine have a PhD.What they have is a fellowship. The ones that are professors among them, even emeritus professors, got that title through research without your precious PhD, so should they now stop giving to humanity, because of a degree that adds no value in their field.

Think of your unborn future generations. If people equate being a PhD will a fellow, no one will go for fellowship any longer. After all, who wants to waste all that time. And 20-30 years down the line, you will begin to wonder why medical standards have abysmally dropped.
Fellowship isn't sort and pass like your Nigerian PhD. After all, Jonathan has a PhD, who e epp?

PhD is sort and pass in Nigeria? .. You can make your points without sounding ridiculous..

Even bringing GEJ into this is a great disservice to you.. ...

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by Nobody: 11:59pm On Feb 17, 2020
Jokerman:


Do you know what it takes to become an engineering consultant??

All these medical protégés making mouth here sef


Lol. Oga go and hide yourself. Who brought engineering in this matter. Read the thread again understand the issue at hand.

Moreover, my uncle is an Engineer, so please tell me what it takes to become an engineering consultant
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by GerogeI(m): 3:47am On Feb 18, 2020
Onlyonebuhari:
Am with NUC on this matter. Am a Doctor and I want my country to be great. Let's stop wasting government money on residency program alone whom many collect above 700 but can't point to 5 surgeries they did in a month. No private set up will take that. People in other field do phd to add upgrade their knowledge why will our own be different. Patient queue up in our hospital cos of Doctors laziness but most gullible citizens blame FG.

You write up alone and lingo shows you are no medical doctor, probably a jobless online troll. No Medical Doctor refers to calls as patients queing up, talkless of the minimum of three nights a week in hospital as laziness.

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by GerogeI(m): 3:59am On Feb 18, 2020
Jubilee1982:
The National University Commission should not give in to their empty threat of embarking on strike due to the fact that they should obtain PhD before they can lecture. I salute the courage of NUC for such directives. It's a right step in the right direction. These people who parade themselves as Medical doctors have hijacked every available opportunity available for other health workers, be it in the hospital or University. Their ego would not let them accept see others as members of the medical team. Imagine department like medical physiology, anatomy and medical biochemistry, there are higher number of lecturers who are medical and dental doctors than the real lecturers who possess degree in these courses. Infact, there was a time the so called MDCN threatened that before you can lecture in those department mentioned above , you must possess MBBS or BDS. They believe that they are only professionals relevant in the health sector. They have refused to embrace the global medical best practices which give room to other health workers like physiologists to be part of the health team in the hospital. Once again, I salute the courage of the NUC for such directives if only they will not yield to their selfish threat of embarking on strike.There own don too much.

Yours is some sort of inferiority complex. Go study MBBS if you want to handle human lives wheather in practice or teaching. It is pure and simple. And it is the same reason why PhD is for everyone else, fellowship is for Medical Doctors.

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by GerogeI(m): 4:03am On Feb 18, 2020
jmaine:


PhD is sort and pass in Nigeria? .. You can make your points without sounding ridiculous..

Even bringing GEJ into this is a great disservice to you.. ...

If PhD is not sort an pass in Nigeria, where are all the research outputs, all that novel thinking firing up new products and startups in other countries?
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by GerogeI(m): 4:06am On Feb 18, 2020
Meninmen:



Lol. Oga go and hide yourself. Who brought engineering in this matter. Read the thread again understand the issue at hand.

Moreover, my uncle is an Engineer, so please tell me what it takes to become an engineering consultant



There is nothing like Engineering consultant.
It only marks that you have been awarded a contract for design and analysis on a project, finish.
I am an Engineer!

Even PhD is more relevant to Engineers who want to become teachers rather than building useful things. Of course, they hide under the guise of doing research. You can see so much research out puts from Nigerian schools

The real Engineers are in oil fields, industrial floors, construction sites, and design labs. They have very little time for titles, as what they do daily ties directly to the profitability of there organisations. And they are we paid for it, with or without COREN, MSc or PhD

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 4:27am On Feb 18, 2020
0m0nnakoda:

The reason why doctors should have an exception is Medicine is a practical profession. All over the world when doctors qualify they often choose to SPECIALIZE
specialization is a practical pathway and a Specialist doctor is at the top of his game
A Phd can go through a year without writing a single prescription ot touching a patient with his hands

Thus only a tiny number of doctors do Phds and in some specialties none do.
Around the world specialist doctors linked to medical schools are given Honorary Lecturerships
That is the nature of medicine
Doctors doing Orthopaedics need to go to Igbobi to train under specialists not Phds

The key word is TRAINING

How many universities courses can be described as TRAINING?

That’s fine.

But those who wants to lecture in the university( not honorary ) should have a PhD , their student can then go to clinics to me the consultants.

It’s the same thing we are saying.

Doctors should know that their game is up and should stop blackmailing others to achieve their aim.

We have watched on the sideline how they blackmail and manipulate johesu to get a different salary scale and cmd by going to strike when johesu wants to negotiate even after returning from strike to press their deman which they later got.nor they want to do same for other disciplines! No way.

Get ur PhD or remain in clinics as consultants to teach practically when students meet u there,simple .


Know this, it’s only in medicine in Nigeria that public institution pay far higher that private institutions. An average doctor in private hospital see teaching hospital as their chevron , it should be the other way round. Something is not right.

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by jmaine: 4:28am On Feb 18, 2020
GerogeI:


If PhD is not sort an pass in Nigeria, where are all the research outputs, all that novel thinking firing up new products and startups in other countries?

Your take is very shameful only fitting for a Stark rabid illiterate

Where is the funding to make this novel world class research possible...?

You expect folks to spend as much as €8000 euro to buy basic equipment for tissue culture experiment. What about the steady power supply to ensure better output... What about the funding in publishing in high impact journals with rates as high as $1,800 - $4,000...?

Even with the current circumstances, we have Nigerians doing great things by owning patents in various fields...

Now let throw your questions back to you... With all your Almighty Fellowship, which ground breaking medical discovery have you medical practitioners achieved. Even simple diagnosis are flopped with severe consequences..

Imagine the stupidity in trying to downplay a PhD study in Nigeria all in a bid to accord godlike status to a huge set of medical practitioners who don't appreciate the rigors of research and publications...

Shame on you.... Stick to your bragging and stop embarrassing yourself..

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by GerogeI(m): 4:42am On Feb 18, 2020
jmaine:


Your take is very shameful only fitting for a Stark rabid illiterate

Where is the funding to make this novel world class research possible...?

You expect folks to spend as much as €8000 euro to buy basic equipment for tissue culture experiment. What about the steady power supply to ensure better output...

Even with the current circumstances, we have Nigerians doing great things by owning patents in various fields...

Now lete throw your questions back to you... With all your Almighty Fellowship, which ground breaking medical discovery have you medical practitioners achieved. Even simple diagnosis are flopped with severe consequences..

Imagine the stupidity in trying to downplay a PhD study in Nigeria all in a bid to accord godlike status to a huge set of lazy doctors who don't appreciate the rigors of research and publications...

Shame on you.... Stick to your bragging and stop embarrassing yourself..

Your argument is just plain stupid, if you know you do not have funds for proper valuable research which is what PhDs are for, why then are you projecting it as a requirement. Are you not just stimulating the acquisition of poorly baked PhDs, at least you have admitted as much in your response.

Just another round of futile efforts in redundancy and backward thinking.
All this Lazy University lecturers

Owning patents where? Name one area of endeavour where your patents is the leading technology.

Just last week, a PhD thesis was thrown out in UNN at external examiner level because it was plainly visible the so called author had nothing to do with the writing. How did such a work scale first, and second defense to get to an external examiner. If not for the principled examiner, that's another Doctorate completed.

Or go to your University library where plentora of leather bound opinionated papers with no industry relevance are filed as research work. Who else in the world is referencing your PhDs, except for studies on African cultures viz a viz dancing and clapping ?

If you can't tell yourself the truth, I can help you further.
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 5:03am On Feb 18, 2020
Gr8amechi:

Yes doctors in residency write thesis as a minimum requirements to be awarded a fellowship try and Google it.
Nigeria law that established the national postgraduate medical college equated it to a postgraduate medical university responsible for postgraduate training of specialist medical doctors.

To become a fellow you must have done work that is rich and adds to scientific knowledge, most of you arguing do not really understand how medicine is structured

Hehehe ... not as rigorous as a PhD research work, maybe masters.

Go to Quora, this thing has been treated extensively there.

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by jmaine: 5:04am On Feb 18, 2020
GerogeI:


Your argument is just plain stupid, if you know you do not have funds for proper valuable research which is what PhDs are for, why then are you projecting it as a requirement. Are you not just stimulating the acquisition of poorly baked PhDs, at least you have admitted as much in your response.

Just another round of futile efforts in redundancy and backward thinking.
All this Lazy University lecturers

Owning patents where? Name one area of endeavour where your patents is the leading technology.

Just last week, a PhD thesis was thrown out in UNN at external examiner level because it was plainly visible the so called author had nothing to do with the writing. How did such a work scale first, and second defense to get to an external examiner. If not for the principled examiner, that's another Doctorate completed.

Or go to your University library where plentora of leather bound opinionated papers with no industry relevance are filed as research work. Who else in the world is referencing your PhDs, except for studies on African cultures viz a viz dancing and clapping ?

If you can't tell yourself the truth, I can help you further.

You see how feeble and light brained you are... You just confirmed that earning a PhD isnt a sort and pay for grade using the UNN example you quoted...

Imagine the idiocy in defending the stance of your opponents.. Sharp practices are bound to happen, but at the PhD level, a minimum level of competency is expected before you can be certified fit to wield that title.. Just like all other fields, there are bound to be cases of frauds.

You keep asking stupid questions... It's one thing to be eminently qualified to carry out a task.. It is another to be properly equipped to function optimally...

A simple Google search would have shown you that an institution like Unilag alone applied for 10 patents last year. We don't expect a loser like you to know or even appreciate that given the depth of resources at their disposal.

Why is our Healthcare system failing despite having a good crop of medical practitioners in the system...? You expect people to use their blood to appease nonentities like you that they are world class..

The same group of home grown PhD owners are busy having Post Doc opportunities in world class research institutions while a nobody who can't even write a simple 5 page manuscript that will beat an anti plagiarism checker is mouthing off.

In foreign Universities, publishing in very high impact factor journals is paid for by the University, you expect a Prof or a doctoral degree holder with very limited pay to publish with about $2000... Or to even spend huge amounts buying equipment with our deplorable electrical issues...

Now let me ask you... What is your contribution to science in Nigeria..... Let us hear what our Novel Price winning scientist in you have to say...


P:S:..... Appears I am talking to alternate here... Omonna..... undecided

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 5:07am On Feb 18, 2020
Becoming a chartered accountant or having a PhD in accounts, who should teach accounting undergraduate in the university who wish to work in a bank?


Hypothetically, the answer is similar.
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by addey44: 5:07am On Feb 18, 2020
meritocracy:
As in PhD in their area of specialisation before lecturing in University.
You need to know that "their area of specialisation" is certainly bigger than PhD.
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by addey44: 5:17am On Feb 18, 2020
correcto:
So because you did residency for 100years you should be a professor over night without PhD? Trash!!!!!!!

You do not become a Consultant 'overnight’! To make me a Professor of Obstetrics and Gynaecology for example, in what do I obtain a PhD?
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 5:20am On Feb 18, 2020
Kolping:
NUC Develops Academic Postgraduate Programmes in Medicine
25 June 2018
https://www.nuc.edu.ng/nuc-develops-academic-postgraduate-programmes-in-medicine/

In its bid to meet the academic postgraduate requirements of Nigerian University System, the National Universities Commission (NUC), has developed academic postgraduate programmes in medicine. The programme is designed to award Masters, Doctor of Philosophy (PhD) and Doctor of Medicine (MD).

The Executive Secretary, NUC, Professor Abubakar Adamu Rasheed, mni, MFR, FNAL highlighted the general need to overhaul the medical curricula for both undergraduate and postgraduate programmes.

He said this at a meeting with some Deans of Post Graduate schools and Provosts of Colleges of Medicine of Nigerian Universities last Wednesday in the Commission.

In his address, the Executive Secretary stressed the need to enhance and refresh the medical profession, hence the decision by the Commission to assemble experts in the medical profession to develop the curriculum which include graduates of Medicine and Dentistry who were lecturers currently on their fellowship, could now undertake their PhD concurrently with some concession.

He said it was necessary to re-introduce the option of MD by publication to provide opportunity for many Professors to keep contributing new knowledge for as long as they wanted without the rigors of interfacing with any supervisor.

Professor Rasheed informed the meeting that the PhD was not a replacement of the fellowship training in the medical field but an option to the medical profession as a whole. It would henceforth be a pre-requisite for any medical professional that wanted to pursue the teaching career.

He explained that the said doctorate degree was strictly for the graduates of medicine and not for other science disciplines which could be acquired not only through thesis but also through publications in high impact journals.

He stressed that every scholar shall publish a minimum of 5 articles on the same topic and the publication date must not be earlier than the date of registration for the programme.

The 3 categories of people that would be allowed to get a PhD included:


1. Those that must have enrolled in the fellowship programme of either the national or West African medical schools and successfully passed the part one of either or both and embark on the part 2 without a Masters degree can be allowed to start their part 2 and enroll for a PhD too. The student should be expected to work on the 2 projects at the same time but can be given a very good concession from the National Post Graduate Medical College to serve as incentive.

He added that if a student registered for fellowship in medical college and he/she completed the PhD before he/she submit himself for the final exam in Lagos and had successfully defended the PhD thesis, the medical college could examine him on several other issues but waive the thesis requirement and adopt the PhD thesis in its place.

2. Those Fellows who want to have a PhD in addition to other qualifications could register for the programme without any requirements or course work, but would be required to write a thesis within specified period under the supervision of a very reliable lecturer.

3. And those who were not interested in becoming fellows but have very good MBBS degrees but want an MSc and a PhD.

The Executive Secretary also commended the leadership of MDCN (Medical and Dental Council of Nigeria) for sheathing their swords and joining in the intense discussions on matters that they were very passionate about and advised that coming together to develop the health sector was more important than being at loggerheads, as NUC and other professional bodies were all geared at championing the same course.

He also informed them that there was need for MDCN and NUC to meet and discuss appropriate undergraduate admission quota for colleges of medicine.

He expressed his gratitude to all of them present on their doggedness at maintaining a very impressive standard in the medical education.

In his speech, the Director, Directorate of Academic Planning, Dr. Gidado B. Kumo, said that the meeting with Deans of Post Graduate schools and Provosts of Colleges of Medicine in Nigerian Universities was very necessary because they were authorities in the matter and had to be kept abreast of any development on issues pertaining to requirements for admission into any degree awarding programme.

He said the Commission needed to discuss with them as stakeholders to arrest any area of difficulty that a student might come across in his university in the pursuit of his PhD and also make them the Commission’s ambassadors when matters arise in their respective university Senates.

The Executive Secretary, Medical Schools for Africa and Provost, University of Ibadan Medical School, Professor E. Oluwabunmi Olapade – Olaopa on behalf of the Deans and Provosts present, thanked the Executive Secretary, NUC for introducing the doctor of medicine MD option into the medical practice in Nigeria. He agreed that medical education was a continuum and therefore a PhD for the medical school was very important in order to reverse the dearth of doctors in the society and keep the system as fresh as possible.

He added that though research was important, of greater importance was establishing a link between the research from the PhDs and the clinical medicine, to know the impact of your research clinically.

He hoped that the standard of the qualification would be of high quality and urged the lecturers to continuously participate in the supervision of the doctorate thesis, regardless of whether they belonged to the clinical field or basic sciences, to promote synergy and continuous training that will ensure the profession boasts of more doctors with research degrees.

Professor Oluwabunmi particularly stressed the need to keep doctors in-country and provide them with the same degrees they go to seek in other countries. While keeping them busy with the PhD and MD degrees, they should be encouraged to write publications and keep adding knowledge and value to the medical field. This, he said would drive the development of effective health systems nationwide.

Present at the meeting were Provosts of some Colleges of Medicine and some Deans of Post Graduate Schools of Nigerian universities. The NUC Team included, Dr. Gidado Bello Kumo, Pharmacist Audu, Mrs. Nwosu and other staff of the Directorate of Academic Planning.

Please whoever has commented in front page should please edit , and paste this .

If most people against the PhD has seen this their ignorance would have been contained before this madness I have read .

Lalasticala asa means aid adding significantly to knowledge please create another topic on fp with the quoted.


Thanks .

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by addey44: 5:25am On Feb 18, 2020
captainrambo2:
it was doctor okojie that started this. If you dont want a PhD leave the class room and get domiciled in the hospital. There will be others
If they leave the classroom, who will then teach the medical students to become Doctors?
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 5:44am On Feb 18, 2020
Dave233:
basic medical/Dental Degrees(equivalent to Masters degree), 6 years residency plus 3 years fellowship=9
Then numerous published articles in both local and international journals.
This is exactly what is practiced abroad. In America, using basic medical/dental degree to apply for a lecturing job(Faculty Job) qualifies you for the position of Assistant Professor. Are you cleared now?

You don’t know anything . A resident is a doctor taking training to become a consultant ( fellow) and it’s 3-4 years for the serious once.
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 5:51am On Feb 18, 2020
afrodoc2:


So PhD is the one that is more standard?
What people are buying in Naija while barely stepping in class?

Also who will be the supervisor for all these specialists that suddenly have to go for PhD in order to teach medical students.

If they enforce this useless rule there won’t be enough lecturers to go round.
Many universities might have to close down their colleges of medicine due to inadequate number of lecturers.
Then fewer people would graduate as medical doctors.
Then you people will be happy as you will need to depend on herbalists and witchdoctors. cheesy
Did you buy your mbbs?
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 6:14am On Feb 18, 2020
afrodoc2:


I never said that no one has PhD in medicine.

What i said is that it is not a requirement to teach.

For instance the current heads of Orthopedic Surgery, Emergency Medicine, Ophthalmology, Dermatology at Harvard Medical School do not have PhD.

All they have is their medical degree and their fellowships.

This thing doesn’t affect me cos i left the country long ago, but it makes no sense.

They focus too much on titles and flash in that country, rather than substance.
This is not the way to mprove medical education in the country.

This is the almighty dean of Harvard’s college of medicine

Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 6:18am On Feb 18, 2020
Lazy nigerian doctors .

This is how a serious doctor should be :


George Q. Daley, dean of Harvard Medical School and the Caroline Shields Walker Professor of Medicine at HMS, is an internationally recognized leader in stem cell science and cancer biology. He is also a longtime member of the HMS faculty whose work spans the fields of basic science and clinical medicine.

Daley has been professor of biological chemistry and molecular pharmacology at HMS since 2010 and was an investigator of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute from 2008 until he resigned in 2017 upon assuming the Deanship. He previously held, as its inaugural incumbent, the Samuel E. Lux, IV Chair in Hematology/Oncology at Boston Children’s Hospital and was the Robert A. Stranahan Professor of Pediatrics and Professor of Biological Chemistry and Molecular Pharmacology at HMS.

A former chief resident in medicine at Massachusetts General Hospital (1994-95), Daley maintained an active clinical practice in hematology/oncology at Mass General and then at Boston Children’s, until assuming his administrative role as director of the Pediatric Stem Cell Transplantation Program at Dana-Farber/Boston Children's Cancer and Blood Disorders Center, a post he held until Jan. 2017.

He has served since 1995 as a member of the faculty of the Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences and Technology (HST), since 2004 as a founding member of the executive committee of the Harvard Stem Cell Institute, and since 2009 as an associate member of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard and as a core faculty member of the Manton Center for Orphan Disease Research at Boston Children’s.

Daley’s research focuses on the use of mouse and human disease models to identify mechanisms that underlie blood disorders and cancer. His lab aims to define fundamental principles of how stem cells contribute to tissue regeneration and repair and improve drug and transplantation therapies for patients with malignant and genetic bone marrow disease.

Beyond his research, Daley has been a principal figure in developing international guidelines for conducting stem cell research and for the clinical translation of stem cells, particularly through his work with the International Society for Stem Cell Research, for which he has served in several leadership positions, including president (2007-08). He has also testified before Congress and spoken in forums worldwide on the scientific and ethical dimensions of stem cell research and its promise in treating disease.

After earning his bachelor's degree magna cum laude from Harvard in 1982, Daley went on to earn his PhD in biology (1989) at MIT, working in David Baltimore’s laboratory at the MIT-affiliated Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research.

He received his MD from HMS, graduating in 1991 with the rare distinction of summa cum laude. He then pursued clinical training in internal medicine at Mass General and was a clinical fellow at Brigham and Women’s and Boston Children’s hospitals. While running a laboratory as a Whitehead Fellow at the Whitehead Institute, he joined the HMS faculty as an assistant professor in 1995. He was promoted to associate professor in 2004, was named to an endowed chair at Boston Children’s in 2009 and became a full professor at HMS in 2010.

Daley's teaching efforts include serving as course director for the Molecular Medicine course at HMS and for an undergraduate course on stem cells in disease in the Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Earlier, for more than a decade, he led the Research in Health Sciences and Technology course in the HST program. He has trained dozens of graduate students and postdoctoral fellows and is a frequent participant in seminars and grand rounds at schools and hospitals in the Boston area and beyond. In 2012 he was recognized with the HMS A. Clifford Barger Excellence in Mentoring Award.

Important contributions from the Daley laboratory have included the creation of customized stem cells to treat genetic immune deficiency in a mouse model (together with Rudolf Jaenisch), the differentiation of germ cells from embryonic stem cells, the generation of disease-specific pluripotent stem cells by direct reprogramming of human fibroblasts, and demonstration of the role of the LIN28/let-7 pathway in cancer. In past research, he demonstrated the central role of the BCR/ABL oncoprotein in human chronic myelogenous leukemia, work that provided critical target validation for development of Gleevec, a highly successful chemotherapeutic agent.

Daley was an inaugural winner of the National Institutes of Health Director’s Pioneer Award for highly innovative research (2004). His numerous honors include the American Philosophical Society’s Judson Daland Prize for achievement in patient-oriented research, the American Pediatric Society’s E. Mead Johnson Award for contributions to stem cell research, the American Society of Hematology’s E. Donnall Thomas Prize for advances in human-induced pluripotent stem cells and the International Chronic Myeloid Leukemia Foundation’s Janet Rowley Prize for outstanding lifetime contributions to the understanding and/or treatment of the disease. He is an elected member of the National Academy of Medicine and the American Society for Clinical Investigation, among other professional societies.

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by jmaine: 6:23am On Feb 18, 2020
AK481:


This is the almighty dean of Harvard’s college of medicine

Appears it is structured fairly like the Fellowship where you have 80% research + 20% clinical practice..

Against the 100% full research a usual PhD offers..

However, I doubt our fellowship in Nigeria is research intensive as theirs ... Ours is majorly skewed to clinical practice ..

I stand to be corrected though...
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 6:39am On Feb 18, 2020
jmaine:


Appears it is structured fairly like the Fellowship where you have 80% research + 20% clinical practice..

Against the 100% full research a usual PhD offers..

However, I doubt our fellowship in Nigeria is research intensive as theirs ... Ours is majorly skewed to clinical practice ..

I stand to be corrected though...

But while working clinicals, he still had his PhD .

What is the argument about all this while ?
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by Onlyonebuhari: 6:40am On Feb 18, 2020
GerogeI:


You write up alone and lingo shows you are no medical doctor, probably a jobless online troll. No Medical Doctor refers to calls as patients queing up, talkless of the minimum of three nights a week in hospital as laziness.

Truth is bitter, probably you are one of the residents that knows nothing from the programme but pocketing 280k monthly.
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by jmaine: 6:48am On Feb 18, 2020
AK481:


But while working clinicals, he still had his PhD .

Correct..
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by Gassa007: 7:17am On Feb 18, 2020
AK481:
Lazy nigerian doctors .

This is how a serious doctor should be :


George Q. Daley, dean of Harvard Medical School and the Caroline Shields Walker Professor of Medicine at HMS, is an internationally recognized leader in stem cell science and cancer biology. He is also a longtime member of the HMS faculty whose work spans the fields of basic science and clinical medicine.

Daley has been professor of biological chemistry and molecular pharmacology at HMS since 2010 and was an investigator of the Howard Hughes Medical Institute from 2008 until he resigned in 2017 upon assuming the Deanship. He previously held, as its inaugural incumbent, the Samuel E. Lux, IV Chair in Hematology/Oncology at Boston Children’s Hospital and was the Robert A. Stranahan Professor of Pediatrics and Professor of Biological Chemistry and Molecular Pharmacology at HMS.

A former chief resident in medicine at Massachusetts General Hospital (1994-95), Daley maintained an active clinical practice in hematology/oncology at Mass General and then at Boston Children’s, until assuming his administrative role as director of the Pediatric Stem Cell Transplantation Program at Dana-Farber/Boston Children's Cancer and Blood Disorders Center, a post he held until Jan. 2017.

He has served since 1995 as a member of the faculty of the Harvard-MIT Division of Health Sciences and Technology (HST), since 2004 as a founding member of the executive committee of the Harvard Stem Cell Institute, and since 2009 as an associate member of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard and as a core faculty member of the Manton Center for Orphan Disease Research at Boston Children’s.

Daley’s research focuses on the use of mouse and human disease models to identify mechanisms that underlie blood disorders and cancer. His lab aims to define fundamental principles of how stem cells contribute to tissue regeneration and repair and improve drug and transplantation therapies for patients with malignant and genetic bone marrow disease.

Beyond his research, Daley has been a principal figure in developing international guidelines for conducting stem cell research and for the clinical translation of stem cells, particularly through his work with the International Society for Stem Cell Research, for which he has served in several leadership positions, including president (2007-08). He has also testified before Congress and spoken in forums worldwide on the scientific and ethical dimensions of stem cell research and its promise in treating disease.

After earning his bachelor's degree magna cum laude from Harvard in 1982, Daley went on to earn his PhD in biology (1989) at MIT, working in David Baltimore’s laboratory at the MIT-affiliated Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research.

He received his MD from HMS, graduating in 1991 with the rare distinction of summa cum laude. He then pursued clinical training in internal medicine at Mass General and was a clinical fellow at Brigham and Women’s and Boston Children’s hospitals. While running a laboratory as a Whitehead Fellow at the Whitehead Institute, he joined the HMS faculty as an assistant professor in 1995. He was promoted to associate professor in 2004, was named to an endowed chair at Boston Children’s in 2009 and became a full professor at HMS in 2010.

Daley's teaching efforts include serving as course director for the Molecular Medicine course at HMS and for an undergraduate course on stem cells in disease in the Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Earlier, for more than a decade, he led the Research in Health Sciences and Technology course in the HST program. He has trained dozens of graduate students and postdoctoral fellows and is a frequent participant in seminars and grand rounds at schools and hospitals in the Boston area and beyond. In 2012 he was recognized with the HMS A. Clifford Barger Excellence in Mentoring Award.

Important contributions from the Daley laboratory have included the creation of customized stem cells to treat genetic immune deficiency in a mouse model (together with Rudolf Jaenisch), the differentiation of germ cells from embryonic stem cells, the generation of disease-specific pluripotent stem cells by direct reprogramming of human fibroblasts, and demonstration of the role of the LIN28/let-7 pathway in cancer. In past research, he demonstrated the central role of the BCR/ABL oncoprotein in human chronic myelogenous leukemia, work that provided critical target validation for development of Gleevec, a highly successful chemotherapeutic agent.

Daley was an inaugural winner of the National Institutes of Health Director’s Pioneer Award for highly innovative research (2004). His numerous honors include the American Philosophical Society’s Judson Daland Prize for achievement in patient-oriented research, the American Pediatric Society’s E. Mead Johnson Award for contributions to stem cell research, the American Society of Hematology’s E. Donnall Thomas Prize for advances in human-induced pluripotent stem cells and the International Chronic Myeloid Leukemia Foundation’s Janet Rowley Prize for outstanding lifetime contributions to the understanding and/or treatment of the disease. He is an elected member of the National Academy of Medicine and the American Society for Clinical Investigation, among other professional societies.


Phd in biology, do you see that?
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 7:22am On Feb 18, 2020
Gassa007:

Phd in biology, do you see that?

That’s the point, do something to enhance your research abilities to maximum and not just practical.

Teaching is different from research, the university is first and foremost a research institution.

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Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by 0m0nnakoda: 7:30am On Feb 18, 2020
AK481:


That’s fine.

But those who wants to lecture in the university( not honorary ) should have a PhD , their student can then go to clinics to me the consultants.

It’s the same thing we are saying.

Doctors should know that their game is up and should stop blackmailing others to achieve their aim.

We have watched on the sideline how they blackmail and manipulate johesu to get a different salary scale and cmd by going to strike when johesu wants to negotiate even after returning from strike to press their deman which they later got.nor they want to do same for other disciplines! No way.

Get ur PhD or remain in clinics as consultants to teach practically when students meet u there,simple .


Know this, it’s only in medicine in Nigeria that public institution pay far higher that private institutions. An average doctor in private hospital see teaching hospital as their chevron , it should be the other way round. Something is not right.

You sound bitter.

Did you fail JAMB repeatedly trying to study medicine?

Why so bitter?

What do you mean by game is up?

This idea cannot work because doctors rarely do Phds.
You could go through 5 years of medical graduates and not find one single Phd .
So the question is how this idea will work.


Teaching or lecturing is not that rewarding for specialists. Doctors do it because of the oath they swore not because of money. So unless we are planning to close medical schools down where will those Phds be found? Not even the UK has the staff to pursue such a plan.

If the plan is driven by bitterness of

Doctors time is up in


Folk like yo u where will you get the Lecturers from?

There are not even enough doctors in Nigeria with Phd for one medical school
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 7:32am On Feb 18, 2020
Dean in Yale school of medicine :

Biography
Dr. Sten Vermund is a pediatrician and infectious disease epidemiologist focused on diseases of low and middle income countries. His work on HIV-HPV interactions among women in Bronx methadone programs motivated a change in the 1993 CDC AIDS case surveillance definition and inspired cervical cancer screening programs launched within HIV/AIDS programs around the world. The thrust of his research has focused on health care access, adolescent sexual and reproductive health and rights, and prevention of HIV transmission among general and key populations, including mother-to-child.

Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by AK481(m): 7:39am On Feb 18, 2020
Dean oxford school of medicine:

I am not saying there are not MD without PhD teaching, I am saying that if we do it here , heaven will not fall.

Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by Dave233: 7:45am On Feb 18, 2020
AK481:


You don’t know anything . A resident is a doctor taking training to become a consultant ( fellow) and it’s 3-4 years for the serious once.
see this mumu. Fellowship is done after residency and residency is a minimum of 6 years . Fellowship is called Subsubspecialty.
Re: Doctors To Embark On Nationwide Strike Over NUC’s PhD Directive by GerogeI(m): 7:48am On Feb 18, 2020
jmaine:


You see how feeble and light brained you are... You just confirmed that earning a PhD isnt a sort and pay for grade using the UNN example you quoted...

Imagine the idiocy in defending the stance of your opponents.. Sharp practices are bound to happen, but at the PhD level, a minimum level of competency is expected before you can be certified fit to wield that title. Just like all other fields, there are bound to be cases of frauds.

You keep asking stupid questions... It's one thing to be eminently qualified to carry out a task.. It is another to be properly equipped to function optimally...

A simple Google search would have shown you that an institution like Unilag alone applied for 10 patents last year. We don't expect a loser like you to know or even appreciate that given the depth of resources at their disposal.

Why is our Healthcare system failing despite having a good crop of medical practitioners in the system...? You expect people to use their blood to appease nonentities like you that they are world class..

The same group of home grown PhD owners are busy having Post Doc opportunities in world class research institutions while a nobody who can't even write a simple 5 page manuscript that will beat an anti plagiarism checker is mouthing off.

In foreign Universities, publishing in very high impact factor journals is paid for by the University, you expect a Prof or a doctoral degree holder with very limited pay to publish with about $2000... Or to even spend huge amounts buying equipment with our deplorable electrical issues...

Now let me ask you... What is your contribution to science in Nigeria..... Let us hear what our Novel Price winning scientist in you have to say...


P:S:..... Appears I am talking to alternate here... Omonna..... undecided

Jeez,
See this idiot that is registering ground breaking patents in areas he cannot mention, all without proper equipment. Who are you kidding.

I am well versed in every aspect of University life in Nigeria, and like I told you before, the frauds are the majority among PhD holders in Nigeria, that's why they have zero impact overall.

You are so pained by this, maybe you are one of the frauds who bought PhD by sending bags of rice to their supervisors every session, and hosting external examiners in hotels with escorts sent to keep them company. We are all well versed in the established fraud procedure. From all the lobbying for nomination of your supervisors cronies for your project defense panel, to the faking of experimental data. No body takes you guys serious outside here, except for the very few distinguished scholars who mostly studied somewhere in the first world.


"World Class Buffoon". . . Bottom line is by their fruits you shall know them. Where are the world class outputs and there impact on our economy.

Your healthcare system is failing because of ignorant people like you who are in charge. The same Doctors you refuse to pay well are the same ones hired in UK, US, Canada and Australia, and there health systems are not going down. But here you are with your failing system looking for fake PhDs for Doctors that are already leaving.

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