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Re: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 6:24pm On Mar 17
Paul claimed to be "chosen" by God and Jesus. If God chose someone it means he can not go wrong. but Paul did the very opposite of everything that previous prophet stood for including defilement of Jesus teachings.

In the Act Of Apostle 9:3-6, Paul claimed to hear voice of Jesus in or around Damascus


"As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”

“Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.

“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”




To prove this is a lie, that Paul was not inspired by God or Jesus, in the book of Matthew 24:23-25 Jesus said:




"At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time."


This is exactly what happened. Paul claimed "apostle" for himself after Jesus.

Re: Jesus Saves. by sagenaija: 8:53pm On Mar 17
Empiree:
Paul claimed to be "chosen" by God and Jesus. If God chose someone it means he can not go wrong. but Paul did the very opposite of everything that previous prophet stood for including defilement of Jesus teachings.

In the Act Of Apostle 9:3-6, Paul claimed to hear voice of Jesus in or around Damascus


"As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him. He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”

“Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked.

“I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied. “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”




To prove this is a lie, that Paul was not inspired by God or Jesus, in the book of Matthew 24:23-25 Jesus said:




"At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time."


This is exactly what happened. Paul claimed "apostle" for himself after Jesus.

The same ustaz that couldn't debate clearly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd-yvP_4kUk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQWjAV_leR8&t=27s
Re: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 9:55pm On Mar 17
sagenaija:
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The same ustaz that couldn't debate clearly?
&t=27s
guy, challenge my post and leave the man alone
Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 3:52am On Mar 18
LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha! The joke flew over your head.

Accountable to who? A fairytale god or to the ever soon coming Jesus? LMFAO!

We are all going to account for the actions and lives we live. You know it but you don't want it,that's why you vehemently lie to yourself. All those sins you love to commit, you'll make complete account for them. Let Jesus save you.
Re: Jesus Saves. by LordReed(m): 3:57am On Mar 18
Image123:


We are all going to account for the actions and lives we live. You know it but you don't want it,that's why you vehemently lie to yourself. All those sins you love to commit, you'll make complete account for them. Let Jesus save you.

LoL another scam of religion, magic sky daddy is watching you. Bwahahahahaha!

Do you have an evidence of this so called accountability? LMFAO!
Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 4:07am On Mar 18
LordReed:


LMFAO! Yeah because according to your fairytale sin didn't exist before your fairytale god gave any laws.

Then Jesus saves is not better than chance is what your numb skull refuses to acknowledge.

No need to write LMFAO or any of the synonyms like it's a salute, greeting or punctuation mark. i'm certain you are grimacing and gnashing your teeth the most of the time. Make some attempt at honesty, you are not under pressure to lie, are you?
Sin was not reckoned until the law was given, that's pretty commonsense. Let me break it down with the hope that you will grasp it for once. For instance in Nigeria, there is no written law or constitution against spitting/urinating on cars. i think it is wrong to spit/urinate on cars, people do it since before i was born. Next month, the government may issue a directive or law saying such action would be penalised. It means from next month, it is officially reckoned against the doer and offender.
You believe Jesus saves but you are not happy with the rate, right?
Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 4:08am On Mar 18
LordReed:


LoL another scam of religion, magic sky daddy is watching you. Bwahahahahaha!

Do you have an evidence of this so called accountability? LMFAO!

Do you have a conscience?
Re: Jesus Saves. by LordReed(m): 6:44am On Mar 18
Image123:


Do you have a conscience?

Is my conscience the magic sky daddy?
Re: Jesus Saves. by LordReed(m): 7:01am On Mar 18
Image123:


No need to write LMFAO or any of the synonyms like it's a salute, greeting or punctuation mark. i'm certain you are grimacing and gnashing your teeth the most of the time. Make some attempt at honesty, you are not under pressure to lie, are you?
Sin was not reckoned until the law was given, that's pretty commonsense. Let me break it down with the hope that you will grasp it for once. For instance in Nigeria, there is no written law or constitution against spitting/urinating on cars. i think it is wrong to spit/urinate on cars, people do it since before i was born. Next month, the government may issue a directive or law saying such action would be penalised. It means from next month, it is officially reckoned against the doer and offender.
You believe Jesus saves but you are not happy with the rate, right?

Bwahahahahaha! No need to project your frustration unto me. I am not the one trying unsuccessfully to sell Jesus magic. LMFAO!

Sin has nothing to do with the laws of the land and everything to do with transgressions against divine will. Divine will is a made up concept ergo sin is a made up concept.

There is no Jesus saving in the first place. The Jesus magic you think is "saving" is a scam used to cover the fact that it is chance and motivation at work. Ask any of your pastors or you to do something chance can't and y'all can't. Can you multiply loves and fish? Turn water to wine? Walk on water? Grow an amputees limb? No to all of these because there exists no chance at all that any of these things can be accomplished but the things that can be accomplished by chance y'all will claim your Jesus magic can do. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 10:55am On Mar 19
LordReed:


Is my conscience the magic sky daddy?

So you agree that you do have a conscience. Do you suppose that animals have conscience like you?
Re: Jesus Saves. by LordReed(m): 10:59am On Mar 19
Image123:


So you agree that you do have a conscience. Do you suppose that animals have conscience like you?

Is my conscience the magic sky daddy?
Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 11:15am On Mar 19
LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha! No need to project your frustration unto me. I am not the one trying unsuccessfully to sell Jesus magic. LMFAO!

Sin has nothing to do with the laws of the land and everything to do with transgressions against divine will. Divine will is a made up concept ergo sin is a made up concept.

There is no Jesus saving in the first place. The Jesus magic you think is "saving" is a scam used to cover the fact that it is chance and motivation at work. Ask any of your pastors or you to do something chance can't and y'all can't. Can you multiply loves and fish? Turn water to wine? Walk on water? Grow an amputees limb? No to all of these because there exists no chance at all that any of these things can be accomplished but the things that can be accomplished by chance y'all will claim your Jesus magic can do. Bwahahahahaha!

I understand the dishonest nature, we've been there too. How long will you lie to yourself? Bwahahaha online and suicidal feelings offline. There are millions taking and claiming to take Jesus, how then is it an "unsuccessful sale"? You're the one asking awkward questions like a 4year old.
You thought sin did not exist before the law, i simply showed you high level that IT was not reckoned. Your usual attempt to turn logic on its head has not helped you and will never do.
Jesus saves and i have seen Him save. i am a living testimony. i was once lost in sin and know many who were once lost in sin like you are. Jesus set us free. We are no longer slaves to committing sin. Old things passed away, there was no scam about it. Jesus saves free of charge. No more masturbation, pornography, cheating others, self conceit, greed, immorality, theft, bile, wickedness. There's peace in our hearts that the world never gave despite our age, education, training, exposure and money. Jesus gave it freely.

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Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 11:15am On Mar 19
LordReed:


Is my conscience the magic sky daddy?

Do you suppose that animals have conscience like you? Would you believe if i say yes to the meaningless question?
Re: Jesus Saves. by LordReed(m): 12:48pm On Mar 19
Image123:


I understand the dishonest nature, we've been there too. How long will you lie to yourself? Bwahahaha online and suicidal feelings offline. There are millions taking and claiming to take Jesus, how then is it an "unsuccessful sale"? You're the one asking awkward questions like a 4year old.
You thought sin did not exist before the law, i simply showed you high level that IT was not reckoned. Your usual attempt to turn logic on its head has not helped you and will never do.
Jesus saves and i have seen Him save. i am a living testimony. i was once lost in sin and know many who were once lost in sin like you are. Jesus set us free. We are no longer slaves to committing sin. Old things passed away, there was no scam about it. Jesus saves free of charge. No more masturbation, pornography, cheating others, self conceit, greed, immorality, theft, bile, wickedness. There's peace in our hearts that the world never gave despite our age, education, training, exposure and money. Jesus gave it freely.

Bwahahahaha! I understand that your frustration is very high that I refuse to buy your Jesus magic. Take a chill pill OK before you have a coronary. LMFAO!

It's difficult explaining simple things to dumbasses like you because no matter how many times you repeat a simple sentence, they'll choose to be obtuse and misinterpret it. I never said sin didn't exist before the law. I made a snide comment that showed that the sin concept has nothing to do with law. Your fairytale says original sin came when Adam ate the fruit. Why was it sin? Because he disobeyed god. Sin is about opposing divine will, not about crimes and criminality or even morality for that matter. Divine will is a made up concept therefore opposition to a made up concept, as a concept in itself, is also necessarily made up because it needs to be part of the narrative. If you cannot grasp this then I know I have been wasting my time with a blockhead.

Coronavirus is here, I don't see you Jesus magic proponents rushing to the isolation wards to go perform your "saving" there. Go now, let's see. Meanwhile when will you change water to wine for us to have a party? LMFAO!
Re: Jesus Saves. by LordReed(m): 12:49pm On Mar 19
Image123:


Do you suppose that animals have conscience like you? Would you believe if i say yes to the meaningless question?

Is my conscience the magic sky daddy?

If you will only answer questions with questions then we can do it all day long.
Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 10:15am On Mar 20
LordReed:


Is my conscience the magic sky daddy?

If you will only answer questions with questions then we can do it all day long.

Unfortunately for us, i don't have questions, you do. Do you suppose that animals have conscience like you? Would you believe if i say yes to the meaningless question?
Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 10:28am On Mar 20
LordReed:


Bwahahahaha! I understand that your frustration is very high that I refuse to buy your Jesus magic. Take a chill pill OK before you have a coronary. LMFAO!

It's difficult explaining simple things to dumbasses like you because no matter how many times you repeat a simple sentence, they'll choose to be obtuse and misinterpret it. I never said sin didn't exist before the law. I made a snide comment that showed that the sin concept has nothing to do with law. Your fairytale says original sin came when Adam ate the fruit. Why was it sin? Because he disobeyed god. Sin is about opposing divine will, not about crimes and criminality or even morality for that matter. Divine will is a made up concept therefore opposition to a made up concept, as a concept in itself, is also necessarily made up because it needs to be part of the narrative. If you cannot grasp this then I know I have been wasting my time with a blockhead.

Coronavirus is here, I don't see you Jesus magic proponents rushing to the isolation wards to go perform your "saving" there. Go now, let's see. Meanwhile when will you change water to wine for us to have a party? LMFAO!

Not at all, i am not frustrated with you. By prophecy, by experience, by exposure and by result, there is absolutely no such need.

Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Your "snide remark" had me thinking of the above scripture and its similars which i thought you misunderstood as usual. Your problem is compounded as we both have different definitions. Law, crime, sin all have different meanings for us. Funny.
If you have the coronavirus, Jesus can save you. If He saved you, will you not explain it as chance and motivation?
Re: Jesus Saves. by LordReed(m): 10:32am On Mar 20
Image123:


Unfortunately for us, i don't have questions, you do. Do you suppose that animals have conscience like you? Would you believe if i say yes to the meaningless question?

Is my conscience the magic sky daddy?

Do you have an evidence of this so called accountability?
Re: Jesus Saves. by LordReed(m): 10:36am On Mar 20
Image123:


Not at all, i am not frustrated with you. By prophecy, by experience, by exposure and by result, there is absolutely no such need.

Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Your "snide remark" had me thinking of the above scripture and its similars which i thought you misunderstood as usual. Your problem is compounded as we both have different definitions. Law, crime, sin all have different meanings for us. Funny.
If you have the coronavirus, Jesus can save you. If He saved you, will you not explain it as chance and motivation?

Misunderstanding is your middle name.

Go and save the those with coronavirus. This is real life now. If you go out and save 1 person who has coronavirus comeback and show us. LMFAO! I doubt you'll step out and do that. Governments are beginning to tell people to stay home, will you do the opposite because you have Jesus magic? No you won't, you'll stay home and eat your beans. Bwahahahahaha! Meanwhile please change water to wine let's have a coronavirus healing party. LMFAO!
Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 3:52am On Mar 21
LordReed:


Is my conscience the magic sky daddy?

Do you have an evidence of this so called accountability?

Would you believe if i say yes to the meaningless question?

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Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 3:56am On Mar 21
LordReed:


Misunderstanding is your middle name.

Go and save the those with coronavirus. This is real life now. If you go out and save 1 person who has coronavirus comeback and show us. LMFAO! I doubt you'll step out and do that. Governments are beginning to tell people to stay home, will you do the opposite because you have Jesus magic? No you won't, you'll stay home and eat your beans. Bwahahahahaha! Meanwhile please change water to wine let's have a coronavirus healing party. LMFAO!

If you have the virus, tell me let me help you.
Mat 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

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Re: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 5:42am On Mar 21
Re: Jesus Saves. by LordReed(m): 6:00am On Mar 21
Image123:


Would you believe if i say yes to the meaningless question?

Is my conscience the magic sky daddy?

Do you have an evidence of this so called accountability?
Re: Jesus Saves. by LordReed(m): 6:01am On Mar 21
Image123:


If you have the virus, tell me let me help you.
Mat 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

Audio saving. LMFAO! Abeg change water to wine let's have a good time. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: Jesus Saves. by sagenaija: 9:46am On Mar 21
Empiree:
guy, challenge my post and leave the man alone


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6czWRyDgjo
The Islamic history of the Koran tells a different story from what Moslem apologists claim about the Koran being 'perfectly' preserved, right down to the letter, from the time it was revealed to Mohamed.

This video, quoting copiously from islamic sources, clearly shows the truth.

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Re: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 12:17pm On Mar 21
sagenaija:


https://youtu.be/W6cz...WRyDgjo
The Islamic history of the Koran tells a different story from what Moslem apologists claim about the Koran being 'perfectly' preserved, right down to the letter, from the time it was revealed to Mohamed.

This video, quoting copiously from islamic sources, clearly shows the truth.
old propaganda. Try harder
Re: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 2:47pm On Mar 21
sagenaija:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6czWRyDgjo
The Islamic history of the Koran tells a different story from what Moslem apologists claim about the Koran being 'perfectly' preserved, right down to the letter, from the time it was revealed to Mohamed.

This video, quoting copiously from islamic sources, clearly shows the truth.
leave story. Bring another Qur'an different from what we have.. That's a determine factor.. Not stories
Re: Jesus Saves. by sagenaija: 5:47pm On Mar 21
Empiree:
leave story. Bring another Qur'an different from what we have.. That's a determine factor.. Not stories

Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.

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Re: Jesus Saves. by Empiree: 6:12pm On Mar 21
sagenaija:


Denialism is an essentially irrational action that withholds the validation of a historical experience or event, when a person refuses to accept an empirically verifiable reality.
ats denial herer?. I just challenged you to bring forward a Quran that is in conflict with the ones we have but you said it is denia. Seriously?.

Regardless what happened historically, it was impossible to have one universal Quran without contradiction till today if not by God's Divine Plan that protected and still protecting Quran. If you challenge me to bring different Bibles right now I will supply you with different bibles with different contents. It is so easy. That's what I am asking you to do the same for Quran. Let me give you example. You have King James Version (Bible) which was originally published in 1611. In this Bible, 'he' is used for Jesus. But now, Queen James Version (Bible) was published on November 27, 2012. Everywhere in the King James Version where "he" is used for Jesus, "she" is used for Jesus in Queen James Version.



The Queen James Bible Paperback – November 27, 2012. The Queen James Bible is based on The King James Bible, edited to prevent homophobic misinterpretation. Homosexuality was first mentioned in the Bible in 1946, in the Revised Standard Version.


This is just small challenge. There are hundreds of others.
Re: Jesus Saves. by sagenaija: 7:52pm On Mar 21
Empiree:
ats denial herer?. I just challenged you to bring forward a Quran that is in conflict with the ones we have but you said it is denia. Seriously?..

Did you watch the video?
I doubt if you did. Typical Moslem fashion.
If you did you wouldn't be going on the road you're on.

How did Abu Bakar compile the Koran?
Was it on Allah's instructions?

When Uthman made his Koran why did he destroy some other 'Koran'?
Why did he make changes to his compilation?

What of Al-Hajjaj's involvement in Koranic 'metamorphosis'? Why did he destroy competing copies and even refused to use the variant of a man who had been recommended by the prophet Mohamed?

What was Uthman's family's reaction to what Al-Hajjaj did in destroying copies of the Koran prior to his 'revision'?

If, in spite of all these, you refuse to accept the reality of the 'evolution' of your Koran and you don't see that as DENIAL then the problem you are faced with may be more than that of denial.

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Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 11:41pm On Mar 21
LordReed:

Is my conscience the magic sky daddy?

Would you believe if i say yes? Are you asking because you lack joy?

Do you have an evidence of this so called accountability?

Is your conscience different from the conscience of a dog or a rat?

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Re: Jesus Saves. by Image123(m): 11:43pm On Mar 21
LordReed:


Audio saving. LMFAO! Abeg change water to wine let's have a good time. Bwahahahahaha!

You don't have money to buy your wish? Jesus saves.

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