Now mister going about pasting a video of the Pope, that is a testament of prophecy unfolding with the false prophet in it, prophesied to come before AntiChrist, lol. You will never live this video gaffe of yours down, lol. You have realised you made a mistake, lol, but no matter how much you try avoiding it, I'll keep on reminding you of it, lol

MuttleyLaff:

Welcome, my Muslim brother difficult student, to another of your one of, I am sure more and future Bible literacy classes. Now get out your pen and paper, as you get schooled on the hermeneutic of Numbers 23:19, lol

My lovinging, dear and beloved Muslim brother Emp.iree, Numbers 23:19 should be read in this understandable manner:
God doesnt behave like a human being that lies, neither does God behave like son/daughter of a human being who chicken out and/or unjustifiably back out from their promise, a commitment etcetera. Capisce? Next Bible 101 lesson will be soon, lol

Empiree:
Is ht not your leader?. He heads vatican(Rone) which is where Christianity came from. So how come you know better than him?.

Empiree:
Watch from 56mins 0

Empiree:
Watch from 56mins


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql8mUpm4am0

lepasharon:
He was never a real muslim to begin with

sagenaija:

What the speakers are attempting to do is to show that John 1:1 does not say that Jesus - the Word - is God.

A glaring ERROR  they have committed (or is it DECEPTION that they are engaged in) is that while they majored on that single verse they failed to NOTE that in the following verses that same Word is said to be the CREATOR of all things. So, how do they reconcile their claim for verse 1 with the other verses?

This is where Moslem disingenuous nature begins to show itself. Why pick just one verse and disregard the rest?

The following video addresses that fundamental issue in Moslem thought process:
https://youtu.be/dLa0k.Wm07pI

Empiree:
I think it is hight time Muslims start taking you guys serious and start filling lawsuit against you people. You Christians are causes of chaos in the country. You were wrong for putting wrong picture and wrong caption. You know you can get in trouble for this?. I hope you realize internet regulations is ongoing in the country where you can't just post anything you want. You already admmited your wrong but you came up with another false information. I will call CEO of this site for you soon

Show me Qur'an verse that says someone should be killed for converting to christianity?


guy, it seems you think this is a joke. You can be sued now. They will trace and find you for posting false information online. The name doesn't exist. The audio is a scam by Christians in Nigeria. Investigation was conducted and you still posting this nonesense around. He was even traced to Oshodi he claimed to be imam as well. There is no correlation btw his false statements and the locals. Go on YouTube and watch the investigation by typing Ustaz Jamiu Adegunwa. Investigation is still going on underground. By the time he's arrested you will go to jail with him.



this is your opinion. First of all the guy in audio is scam artist. Yes, they do infiltrate MUSLIMS and study Islam and Arabic. For instance, "Jamiu Yusuf" (fake name) spent 9 years at Murkaz Agege to study Qur'an and Arabic. His cover was blown after he started preaching CHRISTIANITY. He was sent by CAN. He was arrested and sued in court. The case took 9 months before he later disappeared.


in a real case, he aught to give exact address of places he mentioned and show his face like other fake "imams" so we can investigate his ass. So far all the places he mentioned are not recognized by the people and current Imams there. And you need to stop using tactic that he would be killed by Muslims if he revealed his face. That's a lie


Don't thank me for anything. You guys are known liars. You better be careful before you get sued. You don't know who's reading this thread and you don't know what they are capable of doing for putting up wrong picture. This picture shows the whole story is a lie. If that Imam takes up the case against you all the way from Saudi Arabia, federal government will reach out to CEO of this platform and you will be traced and face the consequences..

Empiree:
Is he not your leader?. He heads Vatican (Rome) which is where Christianity came from. So how come you know better than him?. You better wake up. Whether he is one of evil prophesied in your Book or not is your problem not mine

Empiree:
You are just getting worse everyday

Empiree:
I will now use your statement against you. See highlighted right?. Your believe is that Jesus is God according to Isaiah 9:6 and Matthew 1:23 correct? Very well. It means Jesus can not behave like human being because He is God.

Empiree:
Now, let's get started using your own Bible. Maybe after this you will think deeply. Please pay attention very well. Jesus and his disciples went to "oko oloko lati lo ji agbado" . That God's behaviour right?.

Empiree:
This is in the Book of Matthew 12:1-2
"At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.

Empiree:
Here, Jesus was circumcised. O yeah God was circumcised by the mortal he created?

Luke 2:21
And when eight days were completed [a]for the circumcision of the Child, His name was called Jesus, the name given by the angel before He was conceived in the womb.

Empiree:
Here Jesus called people "fools". This is God's behaviour too right? Matthew 23:17
You blind fools! Which is greater:
the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?

But in the verse, Jesus is the victim of his own vomit

Matthew 5:22
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

Empiree:
Another lie of Jesus in the bible He said we should love our enemies and do good to those who hate us according to Mathew 5 vs 44 but according to luke 19 vs 27 Jesus did not love his own enemies

But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, Matthew 5 vs 44

but here he is demon Luke 19 vs 27

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. Parable or not it is there

Empiree:
I have more.

Empiree:
ISo are these behavior of Jesus Divine according to the Bible.

Empiree:
So a man who behaved like this can not be a God. This is why Numbers 23:19 says whoever calls man a God is a liar.

Empiree:
The whole idea that "Jesus is Lord and Savior", "begotten son" etc are teachings of Paul.

Empiree:
Paul was a liar and he didnt hide it.

Empiree:
Why are you still following Paul?

sagenaija:
Thanks for your advice. But you seem to have forgotten that you posted it HERE.

If you cared to watch the video I posted you will see that it addressed the issue CLEARLY.

An objective truth seeker would want to see both sides of opposing arguments before making a definite response. Have you done that?

You said you are 'tied'. 'Tied' to what? Or maybe you wanted to say TIRED. In that case when you are up to it watch the video I posted carefully and see how it deals with what those two guys spoke about.

MuttleyLaff:

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You're not well, lol. O gbadun.

MuttleyLaff:
You are wasting your time with Empiree. It goes in, one ear, comes immediately out the other. If that doesnt happen, then it means, what you typed went swoosh over his head, as if like its a Naija Airforce fighter jet.

No originality, he is incapable of having his own thought and mind made by himself. All he does, is scouring YouTube for blind guide leading blind Muslims vomit, to dash down there and then come over here to regurgitate and post. Then when he is found out, shown how ignorant he is, he will then quickly do a AWOL disappearing act, take a break, so to go lick his bruised ego and then soon return back only to be clamped down again. You saw how he was peddling that Pope clip upandan the place before, but now, oh no, cat's got his tongue and he has packed that clip away, lol

Empiree:
[s]More reason to never ever believe kiriyo (Christians). They lie a lot. Listen to this 10mins fake dream by Christian who claimed a man seen prophet Muhammad in his dream.

Christians strategic lies stemmed from Apostle Paul, the leader and founder of Christianity whose religion is structured on lies. The same man who was confused about heading voice of God in the Bible. This YouTube audio is four Yoruba audience especially christians

For non-yoruba speaking audience please read the discriptions. Thank you

Watch h t t ps://youtu.be/97NNsI7CMko
Original voice note is on WhatsApp.[/s]

MuttleyLaff:

Dont waste your bandwith to watch this trash

Empiree you should have known not to circulate this clip here so to stop the playing the blame game and pointing an accusing fingers at an innocent other.

It is you guys who fabricated the voice note yourselves. Even if really was true, it's possible the affected were given over to depraved minds, so turned to behaving as beasts, hence animal dimention spoke of in the voice note

Fyi. Rule #8. Don't post false information (i.e. fake clip news) on Nairaland.

Then when he is found out, shown how ignorant he is, he will then quickly do a AWOL disappearing act, take a break, so to go lick his bruised ego and then soon return back only to be clamped down again

sagenaija:
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MuttleyLaff was right about you when he said:


Is this what you are now coming up with?
How do you do it?

Empiree:
That's his tactic. You think I built a mansion in NL to be in here all day?. Like I have no job to do?. I have no life outside of NL?. Smh �

I post as needed

MuttleyLaff:
You post and come online to regurgitate the bile, vomit and fake news, only after you have finished swallowing from the feeding troughs of the blind guide(s) leading on blind loving beloved easy-to-believe-all-lies Muslim brothers, same as like you.

You are all are gullible, and no wonder your shaykh Ahmed al-Tayyeb, the Great Imam of Al Azhar, earlier last February, in 2019, in Abu Dhabi was sucking up to the Pope, who heads Vatican (Rome) which is where Christianity came from, Constantine Christianity to be precise, signing the Document for Human Fraternity for World Peace and Living Together, with him. Two bossom love birds. Aww, what a lovely sight to behold, lol

Empiree:

... But when kiriyo deem it fit to come up with lies about our religion, we will come hard on them.
...Anytime christians insulted them back in the days (60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s),
...But guess what?. Their children (including myself) have now grown up to take up the challenges. We will not tolerate your shit anymore.

One of your harassment back in the days which myself experienced at school was during morning devotion. We were made to pray christian prayers in the morning which i had no problem with. But before then they gave us food on our desks. Then they asked us to close our eyes to pray islamic way. Teachers themselves were christians and the little "islamic prayers" they memorized they poured them out. They would specifically mentioned MUHAMMAD's name so we could "eat with ease". And you know in christianity you close your eyes before prayers. So teachers would asked us to close our eyes before prayer despite many muslims amongst us.

So now we opened our eyes and all foods on our desks are gone. Teachers would tell us that the food disappeared bcuz we prayed in the name of muhammad and islam which can not help us. Then they asked us to close our eyes again to pray in Jesus name and by the time we opened our eyes they already "retrieved" our lost food and placed them on our desks. They said "you see, bcus you prayed in the name of Jesus, Jesus brought back your food but Muhammad stole your food".

....
.So now we have grown up and have understood all your tricks (ete kete) including many anti-islamic books you published. This is payback time, buddy.
.

sagenaija:



But we have the ASSURANCE in Jesus Christ that our trust in him GUARANTEES us a place with God for ever. What a contrast with yours.

That is what Easter is all about - Jesus paid the price for our peace with God. The offer is still available for you, Emp.iree.

sagenaija:
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Unlike the Koran the Bible has a FLOW. So, when you just pick a verse or part of it you're being mischievous.

Galatians 5:2 is saying that to those who are depending on physical circumcision for their eternal salvation, Christ will be of no benefit (or profit) to them.

In John 5:30 Jesus is saying that he wasn't walking or working INDEPENDENTLY of the Father but in tandem with the Father. Again, NOTE verses 28 & 29 before this verse which say: "Do not be surprised at this; for a time is coming when all those who are in the tombs will hear His voice, and they will come out--those who did good things [will come out] to a resurrection of [new] life, but those who did evil things [will come out] to a resurrection of judgment [that is, to be sentenced]".
John 5:28 - 29 AMP

Jesus Christ is coming back to be the judge of all, including you Empire.e.

Christians stand with the judge of all the earth. Where do you stand Em.piree?

Empiree:
Ha ha ha. Audio refutation . I knew you would say this bcus I already debated this topic with your brother, MuttleyLaff:. He literally left the topic after he realized he can defend it LOL. Question is, who taught the doctrine @bold?. All prophets and messengers before Jesus and Jesus himself circumcised physically. So who taught you different doctrine?

Which Jesus ooo my brother?. Jesus didnt exist Letter 'J' only came into existence some 600 years ago. Letter J does not exist in semitic language . So where did you get Jesus from?. Obviously, Jesus must be European dude from Italy.

MuttleyLaff:
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Joker....

Pull up the thread and mention me, so I can "bo idi e fun e daadaa si" meaning whup your arse again for you properly

Empiree:
So who taught you different doctrine?

Empiree:

Which Jesus ooo my brother?. Jesus didnt exist Letter 'J' only came into existence some 600 years ago. Letter J does not exist in semitic language. So where did you get Jesus from?. Obviously, Jesus must be European dude from Italy.

sagenaija:

What do you mean by different doctrine?

I got the Jesus from John 5:30. Is that not the portion you referred to? What you posted was in English wasn't it? Was it in a Semitic language your eyes are seeing it? Please explain

sagenaija:
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Em.piree, this is what Muttl.eylaff said and you're confirming it right before everyone.

You go off in different directions and at the end of the day you confuse yourself.

When you ask questions is it to get something or just to feel relevant in a conversation?

Nothing in Galatians 5:2 says that no one should do or not do physical circumcision.

In an argument you lay good grounds first before giving a conclusion which MUST logically follow those grounds you've laid.

For example, using your line of reasoning goes like this:
- There are many Empirees all over the place.
- First, let's look at the name. What really does Empiree mean? Is it an English word or French?
- Maybe it's even from the Latin "imperator"

- Therefore since it's not quite clear how that name came about the Empiree on Nairaland does not exist. The posts and comments must be machine generated and not by a  human being.

The above is how your arguments go, Em.piree. Do you see how illogical you are?

And all because a REVENGE MOTIVATION has blinded you to anything rational. Your BITTERNESS against Jesus's followers has affected you negatively. You now claim he did not exist. But tomorrow you'll run to the same gospel to tell us he was a prophet of Islam and prayed like you Moslems pray. What you reject one day you run to another day.

Did Mohamed exist? If so, what's your proof? Let's use the same yardstick to show if Jesus existed. Are you game?