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Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 5:42pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
Noneroone: And the buffoon was praising and defending the govt begging then o, insulting anyone who thought otherwise calling them haters. Just imagine the guy. Now he has mouth to call begging mediocrity. 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by ProWalker: 5:43pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
PHIPEX: Why is he chasing 4b loan around for a purely business venture solely for profit making? He knows you his kinsmen will as usual help him to guilt-trip the govt and no need to approach the money banks with a bankable proposal 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Legendguru: 5:49pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
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Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by idealogical: 5:50pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: Nigeria to receive 18 Chinese medical experts to fight coronavirus Unlike you and your olodo friends, I don't lie. So, the fact that Jumia operated during lockdown means they did not donate or they did not help Nigeria regarding COVID-19? Other people and even ordian children are heling Nigeria, why is it so difficult for Innoson to help without demanding money from the FG or without rying to make a profit over other people's misfortune? 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by PHIPEX(m): 5:51pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
ProWalker:First of all apologise for your lies because it's a fat lie. Secondly when a producer asks for an LPO or mobilisation fee it does not mean they are broke, it's the right thing to do. Government can not have a need and not ready to spend. Other countries go the extra mile of funding R and D and when they become rich you start to envy them. No business man will fund this emergency supply without a firm order. Show me any example globally right now. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by idealogical: 5:54pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
Noneroone: Why shouldn't we ask for free respirators from well-meaning people who are giving it away for free instead of handing over N4 billion to a broke man holding is own country to ransom during an emergency. You people are not serious I swear.. 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by ProWalker: 5:57pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
PHIPEX: Yo have not the faintest idea of what you are talking about and I’m certainly not interested in an unproductive back and forth |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 5:59pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
idealogical: You and your affliction of deficiency in English again. I asked you to mention the companies not paste what a minister said. Jumia should not be locked down if the govt knows what they are doing. It is at this time that their expertise will be most useful to limit unnecessary movements. However your govt is only an expert in begging and not smart or innovative which is why Jumia was locked down despite their donations while Amazon and E-bay have employed more people to step up their online delivery. Innoson is telling you how much it will cost to modify his plant to produce ventilators. I don't know why you prefer begging to putting 4bn in the hands of an indigenous firm. Abi you're an almajiri ni? |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 6:02pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
idealogical: Why should you beg for what you can produce at minimal cost? Most importantly, why should you gatecrash a donation to beg? Elon called countries that usually patronize him, which you're too blind to see that he's also furthering his business interests, while Nigeria jumped in to beg. Have you no shame at all? |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by eyinjuege: 6:07pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
PHIPEX: Get one thing right. The US govt is in need. Europe is in need. Nigeria is not in need for ventilators to specifically combat corona FOR NOW. The FG hasn't come out anywhere to say they're planning to purchase ventilators in mass proportions, but Innoson has offered to produce them without been asked. Is he planning to dash Nigerian hospitals or what? Let him tell Nigerians the bottleneck he is facing from doing so, so it can be addressed properly. He cannot expect orders when there's no demand. If he foresees a demand, and wants to meet it then do so appropriately and not on social media. It will make people more weary to do any business with him. ( We generally need more hospitals, specialists centres, beds, VENTILATORS, professionals/manpower etc as part of revamping the health systems in Nigeria) . I'm sure mass testing kits may be even more appropriate at this stage for Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by PHIPEX(m): 6:09pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
ProWalker:Now that you have been caught in your lies, you can go into hiding. That's how people like you tarnish other peoples image. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by PHIPEX(m): 6:11pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
eyinjuege:If you refer to the modified ventilators begging twit by same Admad you will see where he stated that govt wants to buy ventilators but could not find where to buy. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by idealogical: 6:12pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
[s] Agboriotejoye:[/s] Who cares what rubbish question you asked, it's in the article that the respirators and supplies we are sending a plane to China to get were provided through the courtesy of “a group of Chinese companies working in Nigeria.”, if you want their names, go and ask the minister. The current FG did more for innocent that previous administrations combined, this is the time for him to pay back to the community and help Nigerians just like other well-meaning Nigerians are doing. Instead of people asking the FG for money, they are donating and offering free goods and services. It is not by force to make ventilators so if ih can not make it or if he can not help Nigeria without getting paid, then he needs to sit down somewhere |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by eyinjuege: 6:20pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
PHIPEX: Let innoson go through the appropriate quarters to make his proposals and not social media. I personally don't believe he is doing it for altruistic purposes, but strictly for personal gain. So from what someone up there/ you're even saying, the 4 billion is even to modify his plant and not even for the ventilators themselves? That doesn't sound right at all, especially for a private business. When he starts producing, that means we will still pay for the ventilators, after modifying his plant. These are things that need to be discussed and negotiated, and that shouldn't be done on social media. Will the FG own part of the ventilator manufacturing plant after investing 4 billion? Does he want a private-public partnership? That's not going to be done on social media if he's serious. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by mekaboy(m): 6:22pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
ProWalker: You are truly ignorant. Do you know how many times dangote was sole importer of products in Nigeria? When government makes you sole importer, it's more than cash. If banks to lend to a thriving business like innoson, is it you that they will give to? 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by mekaboy(m): 6:24pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
eyinjuege: You can only assume online. Government know what they are running from. They know why they prefer to beg than consult innoson. Haven't he been supplying government with cars etc? Is ventilators more complex than cars? 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Xandelle: 6:24pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
dominique: WOMAN!!! there's statistics and a map of the number of ventilators in the country!!! Stop making arguments based on assumptions!!! |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by mekaboy(m): 6:26pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
idealogical: Haven't government done much for dangote, otedola etc? He will make donations like every other. But if they want him to make ventilators , they pay for the cost of production. He pays taxes to government as well as his employees. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by ProWalker: 6:28pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
PHIPEX: Shut up! Let him approach the commercial banks for financing and stop guilt tripping the govt on SM to throw 4billion largesse to him for purely commercial business |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by diplomat058(m): 6:29pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye:OK, IRE ooo |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by mekaboy(m): 6:30pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
eyinjuege: Is it Nigerians that will place the orders or government. There is no bottleneck anywhere. That someone says he is available if you need the service does not mean he should start producing. If government feels there is no need to invest in ventilators now it's ok. But it's not innoson line of business but his plant can be modified for that. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by ProWalker: 6:30pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
mekaboy: Stop disturbing us. If Innoson is that bankable on this project, the commercial banks should be chasing him around now! Stop trying to use Dangote as a bait to guilt trip the FG to give out 4B to a project that is at best a wishful thinking |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 6:30pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
idealogical: Cancelling my posts is indicative of internal pains you're suffering from. I'm sorry to be the bearer of pains but if it is the only way to enable you get some sense then so be it!! As long as the Chinese companies are unnamed, it's safe to assume it's the Chinese govt doing that. I know it may be hard for you to understand how but just leave it. Innoson already donated money according to news we heard so I believe that is one good gesture. However, he may have been peeved by the begging jamboree the govt embarked on to a fellow automaker like him which is why he offered his company with some costs to cover for the modification and other expertise that may be needed to make it a reality. What I still don't understand though is why you prefer begging to this alternative. When I was a kid, my mum would beat the crap out of me if she ever caught me begging for anything. She always ensured that we had all the basics we required and encouraged us to ask whenever we ran out of them. Sometimes she gave us homemade options whenever she could not afford the factory ones like soaps, sweets etc. but never to beg. What did your mother teach you? |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Dedetwo(m): 6:32pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
PHIPEX: I really do not know the level dumbness associated with most Nigerians in high places. What other products are being produced by Bayero University, Kano? The last time I check though, Bayero University, Kano is place of learning not producing products. Besides the institution is not equipped to produce a candy talk less ventilators. 2 Likes |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by idealogical: 6:33pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
Agboriotejoye: What is the minimal cost? Are you an epidemiologist, are you a medical equipment manufacturer, do you know what the material, labor, shipping, and logistic costs are? I keep telling you, you are not talking to your fellow olodo people. Even if you offer me something for 1 kobo and the next man is giving it away for free, I'll go to the other man and get it for free. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 6:34pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
diplomat058: Odabo aburo. May your eyes be opened to wisdom |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by eyinjuege: 6:34pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
mekaboy: Then he should wait to be called upon, and nobody should push any agenda. It's just as simple as that. The FG should not be vilified for not giving him an answer. They have seen his offer, and will take it up when needed, if it's the more cost effective option. |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Agboriotejoye(m): 6:38pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
idealogical:It's minimal cost cause according to you, the whole world is looking for the same product which means the price will be off the roof anywhere it's available presently. Besides, we don't know the quantity innoson is offering which should make the idea of minimal cost more likely. But the other man is not offering it to you. He's offering it to his customers for patronage purposes. If you jump in, you run the risk of a cold shoulder which can be embarrassing and which is exactly what we got in this matter or have you heard Elon even say pim about the matter since your beggars reached his frontdoor? 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by mekaboy(m): 6:52pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
ProWalker: Someone who has never created anything or been of any use to Nigeria is accusing someone worth more than 4 billion of chasing 4 billion. Is it not childish engaging you in a discussion? The companies who will produce for US and UK also gave cost. US is buying masks from china and paying cash even before delivery. What are you talking about? 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by idealogical: 7:11pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
[s] Agboriotejoye:[/s] I canceled your post because it was full of irrelevant and inaccurate claims just like this post. What's my business with what your mom thought you? If your mom thought you to pay for free stuff, then that's your business, that doesn't mean I have to pay or do the same thing. I quoted you against my best judgment, but this is my last back and forth with you, it's just pointless going back and forth with people like you. You are not even making any sense |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by Gbagbuo247: 7:16pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
Fariq: Then allow him to run it the way he want. 1 Like |
Re: Bashir Ahmad's Response To Innoson On Ventilator Offer by egoldman(m): 7:24pm On Apr 04, 2020 |
seunmsg: How do you know that he imports 95% of his car parts? |
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