Noneroone:
But your govt is begging for common respirator online? BTW Innoson never begged for money, he asked for orders to save the lives of people like you.

And the buffoon was praising and defending the govt begging then o, insulting anyone who thought otherwise calling them haters. Just imagine the guy. Now he has mouth to call begging mediocrity.

PHIPEX:
You talk what you don't know. Which bureau? CRC, CRS or First Central? Don't come here to throw lies around. Which other bank is he owing? Have you seen his name in any of the non-performing loans being published by AMCON?

Why is he chasing 4b loan around for a purely business venture solely for profit making?

He knows you his kinsmen will as usual help him to guilt-trip the govt and no need to approach the money banks with a bankable proposal

Oh

Agboriotejoye:


You have come again you this boy with ur lies. Kindly mention the businesses that have ordered for ventilators from China. People like you that can't even make the soap they use to bath are castigating innoson from the comfort of your bedroom. Very rich I say. If 4bn is too much for you to modify Innoson's production plant, I guess begging is cheaper though. Keep at it and let me know when Elon's BIPAP respirators arrive

The same Jumia you highlighted got locked up by the anti-business govt for operating during lockdown while other countries are encouraging their online retail businesses to employ more so online delivery can be used to curtail movements.

Nigeria to receive 18 Chinese medical experts to fight coronavirus

Nigerian Government on Friday said 18-man team of Chinese medical experts will arrive the country in a few days to assist the country in its fight against coronavirus.

“An 18-man team of Chinese medical experts including doctors, nurses and other medical advisers shall come along with the flight to assist us,” the minister of health, Osagie Enahire, said during a press briefing in Abuja.

[b]“A special cargo aircraft shall leave Nigeria in a few days to collect the items which include commodities, personal protective equipment and ventilators.[/b]

The minister said the medical experts and medical supplies are provided through the courtesy of “a group of Chinese companies working in Nigeria.”

https://guardian.ng/news/nigeria-to-receive-18-chinese-medical-experts-to-fight-coronavirus/?utm_term=Autofeed&echobox=twitter_post&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1585937553

Unlike you and your olodo friends, I don't lie.

So, the fact that Jumia operated during lockdown means they did not donate or they did not help Nigeria regarding COVID-19?

Other people and even ordian children are heling Nigeria, why is it so difficult for Innoson to help without demanding money from the FG or without rying to make a profit over other people's misfortune?

ProWalker:


Why is he chasing 4b loan around for a purely business venture solely for profit making?

He knows you his kinsmen will as usual help him to guilt-trip the govt and no need to approach the money banks with a bankable proposal

First of all apologise for your lies because it's a fat lie.

Secondly when a producer asks for an LPO or mobilisation fee it does not mean they are broke, it's the right thing to do.

Government can not have a need and not ready to spend. Other countries go the extra mile of funding R and D and when they become rich you start to envy them. No business man will fund this emergency supply without a firm order. Show me any example globally right now.

Noneroone:
But your govt is begging for common respirator online? BTW Innoson never begged for money, he asked for orders to save the lives of people like you.

Why shouldn't we ask for free respirators from well-meaning people who are giving it away for free instead of handing over N4 billion to a broke man holding is own country to ransom during an emergency.

You people are not serious I swear..

PHIPEX:
[s]First of all apologise for your lies because it's a fat lie.

Secondly when a producer asks for an LPO or mobilisation fee it does not mean they are broke, it's the right thing to do.

Government can not have a need and not ready to spend. Other countries go the extra mile of funding R and D and when they become rich you start to envy them. No business man will fund this emergency supply without a firm order. Show me any example globally right now.[/s]

Yo have not the faintest idea of what you are talking about and I’m certainly not interested in an unproductive back and forth

idealogical:







Unlike you and your olodo friends, I don't lie.

So, the fact that Jumia operated during lockdown means they did not donate or they did not help Nigeria regarding COVID-19?

Other people and even ordian children are heling Nigeria, why is it so difficult for Innoson to help without demanding money from the FG or without rying to make a profit over other people's misfortune?

You and your affliction of deficiency in English again. I asked you to mention the companies not paste what a minister said.

Jumia should not be locked down if the govt knows what they are doing. It is at this time that their expertise will be most useful to limit unnecessary movements. However your govt is only an expert in begging and not smart or innovative which is why Jumia was locked down despite their donations while Amazon and E-bay have employed more people to step up their online delivery.

Innoson is telling you how much it will cost to modify his plant to produce ventilators. I don't know why you prefer begging to putting 4bn in the hands of an indigenous firm. Abi you're an almajiri ni?

idealogical:



Why shouldn't we ask for free respirators from well-meaning people who are giving it away for free instead of handing over N4 billion to a broke man holding is own country to ransom during an emergency.

You people are not serious I swear..

Why should you beg for what you can produce at minimal cost? Most importantly, why should you gatecrash a donation to beg? Elon called countries that usually patronize him, which you're too blind to see that he's also furthering his business interests, while Nigeria jumped in to beg. Have you no shame at all?

PHIPEX:
You are maki g it sound like Innoson wants to go into the business of ventilators production so should do all the work but no.

Your govt is in need and in an emergency, has the money but does not know where to buy. A local producers indicates they have they capacity to solve govt's problem if the govt shows serious interest. Is it not in the govt's best interest to find a way to expedite the process?

Get one thing right.
The US govt is in need.
Europe is in need.
Nigeria is not in need for ventilators to specifically combat corona FOR NOW.
The FG hasn't come out anywhere to say they're planning to purchase ventilators in mass proportions, but Innoson has offered to produce them without been asked.
Is he planning to dash Nigerian hospitals or what?

Let him tell Nigerians the bottleneck he is facing from doing so, so it can be addressed properly.
He cannot expect orders when there's no demand. If he foresees a demand, and wants to meet it then do so appropriately and not on social media.
It will make people more weary to do any business with him.
( We generally need more hospitals, specialists centres, beds, VENTILATORS, professionals/manpower etc as part of revamping the health systems in Nigeria) .
I'm sure mass testing kits may be even more appropriate at this stage for Nigeria.

ProWalker:


Yo have not the faintest idea of what you are talking about and I’m certainly not interested in an unproductive back and forth

Now that you have been caught in your lies, you can go into hiding. That's how people like you tarnish other peoples image.

eyinjuege:


Get one thing right.
The US govt is in need.
Europe is in need.
Nigeria is not in need for ventilators to specifically combat corona FOR NOW.
The FG hasn't come out anywhere to say they're planning to purchase ventilators in mass proportions, but Innoson has offered to produce them without been asked.
Is he planning to dash Nigerian hospitals or what?

Let him tell Nigerians the bottleneck he is facing from doing so, so it can be addressed properly.
He cannot expect orders when there's no demand. If he foresees a demand, and wants to meet it then do so appropriately and not on social media.
It will make people more weary to do any business with him.
( We generally need more hospitals, specialists centres, beds, VENTILATORS, professionals/manpower etc as part of revamping the health systems in Nigeria) .
I'm sure mass testing kits may be even more appropriate at this stage for Nigeria.

If you refer to the modified ventilators begging twit by same Admad you will see where he stated that govt wants to buy ventilators but could not find where to buy.

[s]

Agboriotejoye:


You and your affliction of deficiency in English again. I asked you to mention the companies not paste what a minister said.

Jumia should not be locked down if the govt knows what they are doing. It is at this time that their expertise will be most useful to limit unnecessary movements. However your govt is only an expert in begging and not smart or innovative which is why Jumia was locked down despite their donations while Amazon and E-bay have employed more people to step up their online delivery.

Innoson is telling you how much it will cost to modify his plant to produce ventilators. I don't know why you prefer begging to putting 4bn in the hands of an indigenous firm. Abi you're an almajiri ni?

[/s]


Who cares what rubbish question you asked, it's in the article that the respirators and supplies we are sending a plane to China to get were provided through the courtesy of “a group of Chinese companies working in Nigeria.”, if you want their names, go and ask the minister.

The current FG did more for innocent that previous administrations combined, this is the time for him to pay back to the community and help Nigerians just like other well-meaning Nigerians are doing.

Instead of people asking the FG for money, they are donating and offering free goods and services. It is not by force to make ventilators so if ih can not make it or if he can not help Nigeria without getting paid, then he needs to sit down somewhere

PHIPEX:
If you refer to the modified ventilators begging twit by same Admad you will see where he stated that govt wants to buy ventilators but could not find where to buy.

Let innoson go through the appropriate quarters to make his proposals and not social media.
I personally don't believe he is doing it for altruistic purposes, but strictly for personal gain.
So from what someone up there/ you're even saying, the 4 billion is even to modify his plant and not even for the ventilators themselves? That doesn't sound right at all, especially for a private business.
When he starts producing, that means we will still pay for the ventilators, after modifying his plant.
These are things that need to be discussed and negotiated, and that shouldn't be done on social media. Will the FG own part of the ventilator manufacturing plant after investing 4 billion? Does he want a private-public partnership?
That's not going to be done on social media if he's serious.

ProWalker:


Which business environment are you talking about?

There is enough market incentive for Innoson or any manufacturer interested in producing ventilators

Dangote has been capitalizing on that environment. No Nigeria govt gives Dangote a dime except allowing him to source his FX at govt rate with funds source from Nigeria commercial banks and foreign banks

Innoson got into this mess because no Nigeria bank will commit funds into any of his project again knowing what transpired between him and one of the most reputable banks in Nigeria GTBank.

His credit rating with Nigeria banks is very low

You are truly ignorant. Do you know how many times dangote was sole importer of products in Nigeria? When government makes you sole importer, it's more than cash. If banks to lend to a thriving business like innoson, is it you that they will give to?

eyinjuege:


Let innoson go through the appropriate quarters to make his proposals and not social media.
I personally don't believe he is doing it for altruistic purposes, but strictly for personal gain.
So from what someone up there/ you're even saying, the 4 billion is even to modify his plant and not even for the ventilators themselves? That doesn't sound right at all, especially for a private business.
When he starts producing, that means we will still pay for the ventilators, after modifying his plant.
These are things that need to be discussed and negotiated, and that shouldn't be done on social media. Will the FG own part of the ventilator manufacturing plant after investing 4 billion? Does he want a private-public partnership?
That's not going to be done on social media if he's serious.

You can only assume online. Government know what they are running from. They know why they prefer to beg than consult innoson. Haven't he been supplying government with cars etc? Is ventilators more complex than cars?

dominique:


If they purchase, will they inform you? A lot of big private hospitals like St. Nicholas, EKO hospitals and the likes are very well equipped and patients from other African countries are flown there for treatment. Nothing stops such hospitals from purchasing ventilators from him if they're cheaper and up to standard, even hospitals in neighbouring can purchase. Waiting on government partnership over something you want to sell and make money off is a waste of your time

WOMAN!!! there's statistics and a map of the number of ventilators in the country!!! Stop making arguments based on assumptions!!!

idealogical:
[s][/s]


Who cares what rubbish question you asked, it's in the article that the respirators and supplies we are sending a plane to China to get were provided through the courtesy of “a group of Chinese companies working in Nigeria.”, if you want their names, go and ask the minister.

The current FG did more for innocent that previous administrations combined, this is the time for him to pay back to the community and help Nigerians just like other well-meaning Nigerians are doing.

Instead of people asking the FG for money, they are donating and offering free goods and services. It is not by force to make ventilators so if ih can not make it or if he can not help Nigeria without getting paid, then he needs to sit down somewhere

Haven't government done much for dangote, otedola etc? He will make donations like every other. But if they want him to make ventilators , they pay for the cost of production. He pays taxes to government as well as his employees.

PHIPEX:
[s]Now that you have been caught in your lies, you can go into hiding. That's how people like you tarnish other peoples image.[/s]

Shut up! Let him approach the commercial banks for financing and stop guilt tripping the govt on SM to throw 4billion largesse to him for purely commercial business

Agboriotejoye:


Economics 101 at play again. It's alright. You're in the wrong place now. By the time you get o 301, the picture will become clearer to you. But even your Wikipedia page if you read it well should enlighten you. But it might be too complex for you to understand. It's alright. You'll get there.

OK,

IRE ooo

eyinjuege:


Get one thing right.
The US govt is in need.
Europe is in need.
Nigeria is not in need for ventilators to specifically combat corona FOR NOW.
The FG hasn't come out anywhere to say they're planning to purchase ventilators in mass proportions, but Innoson has offered to produce them without been asked.
Is he planning to dash Nigerian hospitals or what?

Let him tell Nigerians the bottleneck he is facing from doing so, so it can be addressed properly.
He cannot expect orders when there's no demand. If he foresees a demand, and wants to meet it then do so appropriately and not on social media.
It will make people more weary to do any business with him.
( We generally need more hospitals, specialists centres, beds, VENTILATORS, professionals/manpower etc as part of revamping the health systems in Nigeria) .
I'm sure mass testing kits may be even more appropriate at this stage for Nigeria.

Is it Nigerians that will place the orders or government. There is no bottleneck anywhere. That someone says he is available if you need the service does not mean he should start producing. If government feels there is no need to invest in ventilators now it's ok. But it's not innoson line of business but his plant can be modified for that.

mekaboy:


You are truly ignorant. Do you know how many times dangote was sole importer of products in Nigeria? When government makes you sole importer, it's more than cash. If banks to lend to a thriving business like innoson, is it you that they will give to?

Stop disturbing us. If Innoson is that bankable on this project, the commercial banks should be chasing him around now!

Stop trying to use Dangote as a bait to guilt trip the FG to give out 4B to a project that is at best a wishful thinking

idealogical:
[s][/s]


Who cares what rubbish question you asked, it's in the article that the respirators and supplies we are sending a plane to China to get were provided through the courtesy of “a group of Chinese companies working in Nigeria.”, if you want their names, go and ask the minister.

The current FG did more for innocent that previous administrations combined, this is the time for him to pay back to the community and help Nigerians just like other well-meaning Nigerians are doing.

Instead of people asking the FG for money, they are donating and offering free goods and services. It is not by force to make ventilators so if ih can not make it or if he can not help Nigeria without getting paid, then he needs to sit down somewhere

Cancelling my posts is indicative of internal pains you're suffering from. I'm sorry to be the bearer of pains but if it is the only way to enable you get some sense then so be it!!
As long as the Chinese companies are unnamed, it's safe to assume it's the Chinese govt doing that. I know it may be hard for you to understand how but just leave it.

Innoson already donated money according to news we heard so I believe that is one good gesture. However, he may have been peeved by the begging jamboree the govt embarked on to a fellow automaker like him which is why he offered his company with some costs to cover for the modification and other expertise that may be needed to make it a reality.
What I still don't understand though is why you prefer begging to this alternative. When I was a kid, my mum would beat the crap out of me if she ever caught me begging for anything. She always ensured that we had all the basics we required and encouraged us to ask whenever we ran out of them. Sometimes she gave us homemade options whenever she could not afford the factory ones like soaps, sweets etc. but never to beg. What did your mother teach you?

PHIPEX:
Imagine this response coming from FG spokesman to Innoson. Comparing a private company to a govt funded institution.

Bayero University, Kano started producing ventilators without waiting for anyone to ask them to. I am sure nobody will stop Innoson Motors from starting the massive producion of the machine, especially at the moment when its market is much more profitable than that of motors’.



https://mobile.twitter.com/BashirAhmaad/status/1246139083966935041

I really do not know the level dumbness associated with most Nigerians in high places. What other products are being produced by Bayero University, Kano? The last time I check though, Bayero University, Kano is place of learning not producing products. Besides the institution is not equipped to produce a candy talk less ventilators.

Agboriotejoye:


Why should you beg for what you can produce at minimal cost? Most importantly, why should you gatecrash a donation to beg? Elon called countries that usually patronize him, which you're too blind to see that he's also furthering his business interests, while Nigeria jumped in to beg. Have you no shame at all?

What is the minimal cost? Are you an epidemiologist, are you a medical equipment manufacturer, do you know what the material, labor, shipping, and logistic costs are? I keep telling you, you are not talking to your fellow olodo people.

Even if you offer me something for 1 kobo and the next man is giving it away for free, I'll go to the other man and get it for free.

diplomat058:
OK,

IRE ooo

Odabo aburo. May your eyes be opened to wisdom

mekaboy:


Is it Nigerians that will place the orders or government. There is no bottleneck anywhere. That someone says he is available if you need the service does not mean he should start producing. If government feels there is no need to invest in ventilators now it's ok. But it's not innoson line of business but his plant can be modified for that.

Then he should wait to be called upon, and nobody should push any agenda.
It's just as simple as that.
The FG should not be vilified for not giving him an answer.
They have seen his offer, and will take it up when needed, if it's the more cost effective option.

idealogical:


What is the minimal cost? Are you an epidemiologist, are you a medical equipment manufacturer, do you know what the material, labor, shipping, and logistic costs are? I keep telling you, you are not talking to your fellow olodo people.

Even if you offer me something for 1 kobo and the next man is giving it away for free, I'll go to the other man and get it for free.

It's minimal cost cause according to you, the whole world is looking for the same product which means the price will be off the roof anywhere it's available presently. Besides, we don't know the quantity innoson is offering which should make the idea of minimal cost more likely.

But the other man is not offering it to you. He's offering it to his customers for patronage purposes. If you jump in, you run the risk of a cold shoulder which can be embarrassing and which is exactly what we got in this matter or have you heard Elon even say pim about the matter since your beggars reached his frontdoor?

ProWalker:


Why is he chasing 4b loan around for a purely business venture solely for profit making?

He knows you his kinsmen will as usual help him to guilt-trip the govt and no need to approach the money banks with a bankable proposal

Someone who has never created anything or been of any use to Nigeria is accusing someone worth more than 4 billion of chasing 4 billion. Is it not childish engaging you in a discussion? The companies who will produce for US and UK also gave cost. US is buying masks from china and paying cash even before delivery. What are you talking about?

[s]

Agboriotejoye:


Cancelling my posts is indicative of internal pains you're suffering from. I'm sorry to be the bearer of pains but if it is the only way to enable you get some sense then so be it!!
As long as the Chinese companies are unnamed, it's safe to assume it's the Chinese govt doing that. I know it may be hard for you to understand how but just leave it.

Innoson already donated money according to news we heard so I believe that is one good gesture. However, he may have been peeved by the begging jamboree the govt embarked on to a fellow automaker like him which is why he offered his company with some costs to cover for the modification and other expertise that may be needed to make it a reality.
What I still don't understand though is why you prefer begging to this alternative. When I was a kid, my mum would beat the crap out of me if she ever caught me begging for anything. She always ensured that we had all the basics we required and encouraged us to ask whenever we ran out of them. Sometimes she gave us homemade options whenever she could not afford the factory ones like soaps, sweets etc. but never to beg. What did your mother teach you?

[/s]


I canceled your post because it was full of irrelevant and inaccurate claims just like this post.

What's my business with what your mom thought you? If your mom thought you to pay for free stuff, then that's your business, that doesn't mean I have to pay or do the same thing.

I quoted you against my best judgment, but this is my last back and forth with you, it's just pointless going back and forth with people like you. You are not even making any sense

Fariq:
He is right. They can produce and even export it as the world demand is increasing. No need to wait for the government to tell you "do so". After all, it's your own private company.

Then allow him to run it the way he want.

seunmsg:


There is a global demand for ventilators at the moment, he doesn’t even need to sell to Nigeria. Countries all over the world would rush him if he can deliver.

But truth be told, Innoson cannot produce any ventilators anytime soon even if FG gives him N4b. It will take him nothing less than 3-6 months to come up with anything close to a ventilator. Trump had to activate the defense production act to force GM to start producing ventilators. Even at that, GM has made it clear it can only deliver about 4,000 ventilators by April ending even though Trump is requesting 40,000. That’s to tell you how complicated the process of producing ventilators is.

I saw a BBC clip this morning where a reporter was lamenting that a consortium of Mercedes and Mclaren could only produce 30 ventilators. Innoson is nowhere near all these companies in terms of anything. Again, Innoson imports 95% of his parts from China. All he does in Nigeria is assemble.

How do you know that he imports 95% of his car parts?