Fariq:
He is right. They can produce and even export it as the world demand is increasing. No need to wait for the government to tell you "do so". After all, it's your own private company.

leokid866:

After how many billions he spent drilling and searching for the oil for almost four years before he even found drop One.....let innoson give one prototype first before asking for 4billIon.

Agboriotejoye:


Kindly educate me on what innoson is planning. What innoson said is what I'm basing my argument on. If there's fraud in his assertion, kindly expose it. I'll join the forefront of the waggon to denounce him.
Bayero is not producing. It's a fact. They are thinking of producing but not producing. Have they ever produced air compressors? Or when did they suddenly develop capacity to produce compressors? Is it done overnight? Automakers have that capacity because ventilators basically work on same principle with car ACs.
This same bashir claimed there are millions of millionaires who became millionaires from rice farming in Kano. Where are they now to donate to govt at this times or do they only exist during campaigns?
If innoson is quoting to high a price, they can meet with him to negotiate but to throw it all in the trash can under the guise of he's asking for money is a very dull move. Especially for beggars.

PHIPEX:
What stops a serious govt in need of saving lives of its citizens from calling the company to ask of prototype? That shows commitment not when a govt is indifferent.

seunmsg:


There is a global demand for ventilators at the moment, he doesn’t even need to sell to Nigeria. Countries all over the world would rush him if he can deliver.

But truth be told, Innoson cannot produce any ventilators anytime soon even if FG gives him N4b. It will take him nothing less than 3-6 months to come up with anything close to a ventilator. Trump had to activate the defense production act to force GM to start producing ventilators. Even at that, GM has made it clear it can only deliver about 4,000 ventilators by April ending even though Trump is requesting 40,000. That’s to tell you how complicated the process of producing ventilators is.

I saw a BBC clip this morning where a reporter was lamenting that a consortium of Mercedes and Mclaren could only produce 30 ventilators. Innoson is nowhere near all these companies in terms of anything. Again, Innoson imports 95% of his parts from China. All he does in Nigeria is assemble.

PHIPEX:
Did FG ask Dangote to refine some litres of fuel first before he got govt backing to build refinery? Govt should always support critical sectors, that's how countries grow not by begging.

idealogical:


Slow down, my friend.

1. Tesla is the most valuable U.S. automaker ever.

2. Tesla is not only profitable, but it also generated $105 million profit in January.

3. Tesla is sitting on $5.5 billion cash to do whatever with and the last time I checked, they are not begging the US government for any money to make ventilators, they are making it with their money and giving it away free.

4. You don't know how much or proclaim how cheap or expensive innoson's ventilators will be unless you are in possession of his plans, material cost, labor cost, shipping cost and so on.

5. Youn Nigerians, innovators and entrepreneurs are stepping up and they are not asking the government for 1 kobo, innoson too can do something for Nigeria free of charge per corporate responsibility.

You don't have to call him or his oga a bigot, that's the problem with you folks, you think other people's views are against your tribe or ethnic group and respond defensively and tribally instead of debating what was said with your own better views and ideas.

Fariq:
He is right. They can produce and even export it as the world demand is increasing. No need to wait for the government to tell you "do so". After all, it's your own private company.

NwaNimo1:
Innoson needs the 4billion he requested to mobilize.

You don't use your common sense Please when did Innoson ask for 4 billion for mobilization? Some of you will come on social media to spread fake news, next one idiot from southwest media will twist the story that Innoson asked fo 4 billion, because they drive so much joy in writing negative news about Igbos

hybrid77:
Why do these guyz talk as if they have no sense

You should have called him on phone and discussed how his company canhelp with producing ventilators and other equipments needed

You dont come online to stupidly make useless remarks about someone that is willing to help

Well, for now, we dont need ventilators

If that changes, hmmmm...mk i nor talk

Herdsmen:
Bashir has issues with innoson.. and believe is personal..

This administration have supported innoson to an extend and would do more if not for corona.. that affected governance, considering how Nigeria political and governance work.

Innoson at least for don show us prototype as to encourage government to intervene urgently

Is all about saving lives.

Bashir like all zombies remain a zombie

They mpam below should show me which one his region the assemble.
Ojukokoro.

Nonsense!

Agboriotejoye:

1&2: Kindly see the attached.
3. Elon is not making ventilators. He purchased them from Resmed albeit the wrong types which is why he can't sell them in the US and is therefore giving it away.
4. Innoson already asked for 4bn. Whatever his price may be, is it not much better and easier for govt to beg its own citizen than begging a foreigner. Since this govt have adopted begging as a policy of intl relations with your support, why can't we adopt same in local relations as well.
5. Kindly name the young entrepreneurs stepping up. Last I checked, other countries are asking their big auto makers to build ventilators not SMEs. While it's ok if SMEs can step in, I think it's reasonable for them to show capacity because they're simply not big. Besides, innoson, we have proforce in Ogun state and another in Lagos state that assembles brts, why can't they be engaged or is begging better than engaging those?

loswhite:
So is it federal government that is giving Dangote money to build refinery? The 4 billion he requested is it charity money? The government should give him 4 billion to provide ventilators that he wants to sell...lol. how much is the ventilator sold that government will give him 4 Billion for ventilators? Is it only ventilators that is needed for covid 19? Please you ppl should stop supporting nonsense all in the name patriotism.... Most indigenous company sometimes just want to exploit the citizens.

PHIPEX:
Dangote didn't just start, he got govt backing which is very good. Do you know how many times CBN and other senior officials visited his site? This is how a country should run. You don't expect Innoson to run to a bank and take 4billion loan just on HOPE that govt will buy, who does that?

Wilstino:
Bashir was wrong on this.

The guy's plant is for cars, I believe to make the ventilators some modification needs to be made and of course with cost implication.


The guy has to be sure of market/demand before going into it. The automakers in the US (GM, Ford et al), were asked by Govt to make the ventilators.

seunmsg:


There is a global demand for ventilators at the moment, he doesn’t even need to sell to Nigeria. Countries all over the world would rush him if he can deliver.

But truth be told, Innoson cannot produce any ventilators anytime soon even if FG gives him N4b. It will take him nothing less than 3-6 months to come up with anything close to a ventilator. Trump had to activate the defense production act to force GM to start producing ventilators. Even at that, GM has made it clear it can only deliver about 4,000 ventilators by April ending even though Trump is requesting 40,000. That’s to tell you how complicated the process of producing ventilators is.

I saw a BBC clip this morning where a reporter was lamenting that a consortium of Mercedes and Mclaren could only produce 30 ventilators. Innoson is nowhere near all these companies in terms of anything. Again, Innoson imports 95% of his parts from China. All he does in Nigeria is assemble.

seunmsg:


There is a global demand for ventilators at the moment, he doesn’t even need to sell to Nigeria. Countries all over the world would rush him if he can deliver.

But truth be told, Innoson cannot produce any ventilators anytime soon even if FG gives him N4b. It will take him nothing less than 3-6 months to come up with anything close to a ventilator. Trump had to activate the defense production act to force GM to start producing ventilators. Even at that, GM has made it clear it can only deliver about 4,000 ventilators by April ending even though Trump is requesting 40,000. That’s to tell you how complicated the process of producing ventilators is.

I saw a BBC clip this morning where a reporter was lamenting that a consortium of Mercedes and Mclaren could only produce 30 ventilators. Innoson is nowhere near all these companies in terms of anything. Again, Innoson imports 95% of his parts from China. All he does in Nigeria is assemble.

diplomat058:
Bro, I think the productive part of the BUK that the guy made reference to has to do with the R & D unit of production. Since, design is also part of production, we can say the guy is right. However, designing a product and producing a prototype doesn't mean that the designer has the capacity for mass production to meet a large demand. The is the basic difference between BUK, a research institution and Innoson, an Industrial Automaker.

loswhite:
So is it federal government that is giving Dangote money to build refinery? The 4 billion he requested is it charity money? The government should give him 4 billion to provide ventilators that he wants to sell...lol. how much is the ventilator sold that government will give him 4 Billion for ventilators? Is it only ventilators that is needed for covid 19? Please you ppl should stop supporting nonsense all in the name patriotism.... Most indigenous company sometimes just want to exploit the citizens.

BeautifulMind2:



Point of correction Innoson never ask FG for one Kobo

loswhite:
so do our government need that much ventilators? Are we planning to export the ventilators? Is covid 19 all about ventilators? In this time of scare resources government should just give someone 4 billion to start making ventilators for next year....lol....Mad ppl everywhere

rusher14:


Dangote had already started building his refinery.

He had already received loans from his banks.

The government is right even the USA would buy Innosons ventilators, so what is he waiting for?

mekaboy:


You are in no position to determine what he can and cannot do . The same innoson with very little capacity is the one GTB a whole corporate entity went into his account to steal funds from.

Even if he assembles parts from china, is the end product not a car?

The main point here is that government has to reach out to know what he needs to support in the production. Does he need to fly in more chinese partners? Does he need waivers to bring in parts?

Nigeria is so unstable, ventilators cost much and it's not something you jump into producing for government. They could end up taking it on credit and wont pay after the pandemic.

There is alot that goes into such and he knows why he is making himself available if the government needs assistance.

The UK government placed order for 10,000 ventilators from Dyson. They started to work on it after Boris Johnson called the owner of the company to request. Their major product is not ventilators, but they had to on request of the government. That's how things are done.

You dont sit in the comfort of your room producing nothing and determine what someone who started from scratch to build a multibillion naira business can and cannot do.

This is beyond you.

Agboriotejoye:


I agree with you in principle with a caveat. Design is part of production process but not part of production. Production itself involves input into a system that was designed, the system works on the inputs and brings out output. So if a product is still at design stage, you don't go and say we are producing. It's deceptive in all ramifications. Who goes about announcing design efforts by the way? BUK have never come out to say they are making ventilators. Bashir said it and I ask that he shows us the ventilators they produced.

loswhite:
so do our government need that much ventilators? Are we planning to export the ventilators? Is covid 19 all about ventilators? In this time of scare resources government should just give someone 4 billion to start making ventilators for next year....lol....Mad ppl everywhere

PHIPEX:
No serious businessman makes such huge investment for a demand that could be over in less than 4 months except the company wants to go into such production for a long term which is not the case we are having. You dont build refinery because NUPENG is on strike and fuel is scarce, that's what you are asking Innoson to do.

The demand for ventilators has a very short span and very unpredictable, only a guaranteed order can make any serious company make such a huge investment in it. That also explains why it's still scarce otherwise every Tom Dick and harry will divert to it in other countries.

GM can now produce because Trump has given an order. Why haven't Toyota and Honda started? It's simply because they haven't gotten a concrete order and Japan is not in dire need of it like Nigerian.

MarieAnn2012:

Thanks, they all jumped on Innoson.

Between Innoson and Bayero University who is more capable of producing anything close to a ventilator in Nigeria

Cc iamPatriotic
That won't work here, when they don't have salient point. They resort to this usual line. Ndi uchu