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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Xano(m): 7:17pm On Apr 08, 2020
tinsel:

Aviation is in exclusive list. Only the federal government can take decision on it.

You wrote this without knowledge of what jurisdiction means.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by GamalNasser: 7:17pm On Apr 08, 2020
seborrhic:

As unfortunate as your example goes,yes!
Support for a party or hatred of another should not make us support illegality because it could easily turn around.
What Wike should do in the instance you sighted is report such to the state police commissioner whose place it is to investigate and make arrests,strictly at his own professional decision.
Wike is just being overzealous and playing to the gallery.
Unfortunately he has an inept federal leadership playing into his hands.

So from your narration a chopper pilot can bring robbers into rivers state and go Scot free because aviation is on the exclusive list?

What those pilots did is sabotage Rivers State fight against COVID by inserting probably infected people into the state and refusing to state their identity or location ...if you ask me that's aiding bio Terrorism and the equivalent of a caverton pilot dropping a grenade over PH

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by CasNova: 7:18pm On Apr 08, 2020
People should stop blowing hot air for nothing.

If the pilots indeed got the permission to take off and land from aviation authority, then they have only done their job.

Questions should be asked about the passengers on board. Were they on essential service?

If they are not, then the state could arrest and prosecute them.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Adakintroy2: 7:19pm On Apr 08, 2020
tinsel:

Aviation is in exclusive list. Only the federal government can take decision on it.

Each state is autonomous. No matter how exclusive the central state action assume as long as it is being operated in another state. It will need the approval of the state. How difficult is it to communicate intent and gain approval?.

It's common cutesy.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Xano(m): 7:19pm On Apr 08, 2020
CoronaVirusPro:

Is common sense not common.
Should that be a debate
Is it the state or Federal that controls FAAN
Interesting
FAAN has limited jurisdiction - airport grounds only.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by silibaba: 7:19pm On Apr 08, 2020
who own the judiciary?
if you know, you know
iko123:
What stops FG from communicating with the govt of River State on its planned action. Wike should go ahead with his legal action. Let the court determine who is on wrong side of the law.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by bendazum: 7:20pm On Apr 08, 2020
I prefer not to talk much on this matter since I am legally inhibited.

Nevertheless, those that are arguing constitutional rights should back it up with the constitution.

Quote the Article, section and subsection.

You can also quote previous cases if any; Example Peter Odili vs FG 2003.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by paparazi1(m): 7:20pm On Apr 08, 2020
tinsel:
Wike has messed up the career of the police commisoner and commander of the air Force Base with this overzealousness. I am sure the federal government will deal with them.
Nothing they were obeying the last order
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by eagleu: 7:20pm On Apr 08, 2020
iko123:
What stops FG from communicating with the govt of River State on its planned action. Wike should go ahead with his legal action. Let the court determine who is on wrong side of the law.

Infact, let the court determine who is the chief security officer for Rivers state!
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Biodun556(m): 7:20pm On Apr 08, 2020
tinsel:
Wike has messed up the career of the police commisoner and commander of the air Force Base with this overzealousness. I am sure the federal government will deal with them.

No Governor has control over aviation, it's exclusively for federal government. He is lucky to have PMB as president unlike Obasanjo. It is only federal high court that can judge a case involving federal agency not magistrate court. The helicopter involved was cleard

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Macphenson: 7:20pm On Apr 08, 2020
CoronaVirusPro:


The way you guys reason amazes me atimes.

Is the NPF a state institution. What of the IGP orders their release.

That aside. Who controls FAAN?

Try to use common sense na.


Who is the Chief security officer of the state.

Wike is simply protecting his state as the chief security officer, he has taken them to court, let FG come and prove its case there.

So you expect Wike to allow this irresponsible Federal government to bring disaster to his state?

What is CAVERTON Helicopter hiding that they don't want to release the flight manifest?

Oga everybody cannot reason like Buhari and his confused zombies.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by AnanseK(m): 7:21pm On Apr 08, 2020
All states including Rivers state has no role in Aviation Jurisdictions in Nigeria.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by AceVentura: 7:21pm On Apr 08, 2020
Same way Buhari doesn’t have the power to lockdown states. That decision is for the senate to make.

As Nigeria is now a lawless state brought about by the tyrant himself, Wike can do as he pleases as long as it’s to the betterment of Rivers people.

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by castrokins(m): 7:22pm On Apr 08, 2020
Sit Down, You're Too Noisy.


Compliant:


IT IS YOUR FATHER THAT IS SHOUTING

SEE CHILDREN FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO PASS WAEC TALKING ABOUT A CONSTITUTION THEY DON'T KNOW JACK ABOUT

WHAT A WASTE

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Driveway: 7:22pm On Apr 08, 2020
If the arrest was carried out in the environment of the Airport, He overstepped his boundaries,that is a Federal government Facility not a state owned Airport. But if Outside, he can order such arrest.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by jjohndoe83: 7:22pm On Apr 08, 2020
MelesZenawi:
Wike has full rights.

Federal govt power ends in aviation while Wike is the Governor of Rivers state.

If we go by your logic of exclusive list and aviation the plane will remain in air and if it lands both the persenggers will remain in the airport. if they step foot outside the airport they are venturing into Wike Jurisdiction because he remains the Governor of Rivers State and land belongs to state government


These are nonsense 1999 constitution that is keeping this republic down
Since you agree that aviation is on the exclusive list, so it means you admit that they did no wrong up till the point that they landed in the airport. So, at what point did they violate any orders made by RSG? Merely stepping out of the airport cannot be an offence and their act of landing the helicopter was valid. So, what is the basis for their arrest?

Wike is lucky that we have an absentee President otherwise, he would know the true meaning of the so called "federal might" of the FG.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Arysexy(m): 7:23pm On Apr 08, 2020
Cow head minister. You will be the first to tell the public to hold Wike responsible if something goes wrong in Rivers. Just as your useless party did during the election. They brought violence and rigging to Rivers using the police which is answerable to IGP, yet they were on TV blaming Wike as chief security of the state.

There is a law prohibiting movement into the state via land , air, water. If the Operator wanted some consideration, what stopped them from contacting the Governor? They kept flouting the rule until d Governor acted, they started crying. If this Operator smuggle in covid 19 patients in the state, it's the state Governor that will use state resources to start contact tracing and treatment. The FG is already politicising the fight of the virus.

Minister shut up!

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by fykes(m): 7:24pm On Apr 08, 2020
I just dey pity d pilots them... Lowolowo u Don dey sango just like dat
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Adakintroy2: 7:24pm On Apr 08, 2020
CoronaVirusPro:



What are you saying.

Hit the nail on the head.

The Federal controls FAAN.

Take that to the bank.

The president can day all prisoners be released. The police and military are under Federal.

This common sense and shouldn't be a debate

President cannot say all prisoners be release stop talking like kid. There are ground for pardon. Plus the judiciary is independent. We are not in days of kings and absolute tyranny.


That said, no one is disputing who is in charge of fAAN. But rather who is in charge of rivers state. Your right and authority stop at my doorstep. If you which to come in, knock first ( permission)..and I will say yes you may enter. That is the summary if this argument
Each state is autonomous. You just don't batch in expecially in this time. You write and you granted permission. There are procedures to follow.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by smogup: 7:24pm On Apr 08, 2020
tinsel:

Aviation is in exclusive list. Only the federal government can take decision on it.
but they were not arrested in the airport.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by 0m0nnakoda: 7:25pm On Apr 08, 2020
CoronaVirusPro:


Is common sense not common.

Should that be a debate

Is it the state or Federal that controls FAAN
They were charged to court for offences under existing law nothing to do with aviation

Like I have said repeatedly Arms and ammunition are on the exclusive list that means states cannot make laws specific to that but if you kill someone unlawfully with a gun that is Murder .Murder is a state offence.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Carlyscales: 7:26pm On Apr 08, 2020
0m0nnakoda:
Exclusive list?
What a stupid thing to say

It's like u don't know that Nigerian constitution was arranged by the military?
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Victor08032(m): 7:26pm On Apr 08, 2020
cry cry cry


The question here is that, did Wike went to arrested in AbuJa?

Is it not his state that he's protecting?

FG whome buhari is representing, he's not capable enough to protect it.

You that minister of aviation self, if you come with aeroplane to the River state, you will definitely get arrested.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by 0m0nnakoda: 7:27pm On Apr 08, 2020
Biodun556:


No Governor has control over aviation, it's exclusively for federal government. He is lucky to have PMB as president unlike Obasanjo. It is only federal high court that can judge a case involving federal agency not magistrate court. The helicopter involved was cleard
Arma and ammunition are on the exclusive list


That does not mean states have no jurisdiction over firearm offences

In this case the alleged offence is not an aviation issue
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Holak: 7:28pm On Apr 08, 2020
When Buhari shut down Abuja, Lagos and Ogun, some people pointed out that he doesn't have those powers to do that including Prof. Wole Soyinka. Those who took these views came under the hammer as not being sensitive to the situation and pandering to constitutional provisions as against saving people's lives. Now, the same Federal government is quoting the Constitution to fault the actions of a governor who is also securing the lives of his citizens against COVID 19. I don't think FG has the moral right. Some people also supporting Wike opposed the FG on Constitutional grounds. We either decide to obey our laws or not.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by dadebayo1(m): 7:28pm On Apr 08, 2020
In all i only pity those under Fg agency that accompanied Wike to the place... They will be the grass that will suffer.. Expect posting and redeployment asap...

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by 0m0nnakoda: 7:28pm On Apr 08, 2020
Carlyscales:


It's like u don't know that Nigerian constitution was arranged by the military?
What difference does it make?

That is not the point

What offence are they charged with?
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by moriss33(m): 7:28pm On Apr 08, 2020
They refused to declare the flight manifest...Hence the arrest bro...wike dosen't know doz pilots from Adam. Why would he need to arrest them ??
Biodun556:


No Governor has control over aviation, it's exclusively for federal government. He is lucky to have PMB as president unlike Obasanjo. It is only federal high court that can judge a case involving federal agency not magistrate court. The helicopter involved was cleard

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by farem: 7:28pm On Apr 08, 2020
festacman:
Buhari please give Wike his own N10 billion as you gave Lagos State and his vex go down.

If you know, you know.

You sure say #10billion go fit treat 2 coronavirus patients wey dey for Rivers state?
Yeye dey smell
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Nobody: 7:29pm On Apr 08, 2020
CasNova:
People should stop blowing hot air for nothing.

If the pilots indeed got the permission to take off and land from aviation authority, then they have only done their job.

Questions should be asked about the passengers on board. Were they on essential service?

If they are not, then the state could arrest and prosecute them.
I don't think they were on essential services.

Every governor has the official right to bypass all protocols when there is an epidemic like this.

When things get back to normal, expect things to go back to normal.

Assuming all of them are coronavirus infested?
I wonder what that minister will be saying now.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Okwyjesus(m): 7:30pm On Apr 08, 2020
GamalNasser:


So from your narration a chopper pilot can bring robbers into rivers state and go Scot free because aviation is on the exclusive list?

What those pilots did is sabotage Rivers State fight against COVID by inserting probably infected people into the state and refusing to state their identity or location ...if you ask me that's aiding bio Terrorism and the equivalent of a caverton pilot dropping a grenade over PH

Federal government want to keep their revenue flowing at the expense of Rivers people health. We in PH are behind Wike.

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