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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by DexterousOne(m): 11:46pm On Apr 17, 2020
Mizwisdom:






Seems you're advertising this your NGO, you want people to contract Aids so you can get grants from foreign NGOs?





This is shallow mentality
I expected better from you

Who in his right mind will want to go contract a virus?
Let alone HIV?

Most people are not stupid

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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Andyinnaz(m): 11:46pm On Apr 17, 2020
Nice info
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Ibrahiimo(m): 11:49pm On Apr 17, 2020
DexterousOne:


Women love attention


It's the attention craze that is causing all these
yeah, you're RIGHT

WOMEN loves ATTENTION alot

fortunately or unfortunately, I don't give WOMEN attention, they EARN it

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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by ngwababe(f): 11:52pm On Apr 17, 2020
So does it mean all these while, your Uncle wasn't fucking her wife raw? Then, are they still making love now?
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by donparosky(m): 12:00am On Apr 18, 2020
For the sake of learning, there are people who can never contract HIV. I know people will start quoting me but hey chill.

In simple terms, HIV virus usually binds to the CD4 receptor, fortunately some people have a gene defect in the co-receptor for HIV and this prevents them from contracting HIV.

What happens is this: The virus dies off when she cannot attach herself to tge CD4

please this is no licence to flirt, just felt i should contribute after reading some weird comments

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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Nobody: 12:12am On Apr 18, 2020
SarkinYarki:


You think I dont know you and the other chap work for the same NGO and this is just publicity


But they are right
Well apart from the AA genotype connection that the OP made which I am not sure of. (I have to read this up, probably won’t though, but at the drop of a hat don’t think there is a connection here)
Anyway what is your problem with people encouraging HIV patients and offering a hopeful and honest outlook to them? You want it to be all doom?
And meanwhile the latest treatments for HIV/AIDS, viral load testing, CD4 count and a few other tests and some services including referrals are available (in all the federal teaching hospitals and FMCS (many state hospitals too).The ones who don’t have would just connect the patients to the organisations in charge of for that state. Drugs are free, tests were subsidised, I think they could be free now?


Someone was asking how the husband could be negative when he didn’t know his wife’s status and must have been sleeping with her for 5 years without protection? This is a relatively uncommon phenomenon called HIV sero-discordance.
Note that the usual thing when one partner is positive and sexx continues in their partnership is the negative partner becoming infected too.
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Kingrefreshed: 12:19am On Apr 18, 2020
Notyamate:
Going through this thread https://www.nairaland.com/5795526/how-found-out-hiv-positive/1 I went through comments and I laugh at the ignorance of some people on Nairaland. I'm sharing this story to people living with HIV reading this, you are not alone. Believe me there are many people out there with this disease, some happily married, growing old and having healthy kids.

On April 2013 my aunt got diagnosed with HIV at Catholic Hospital, Oluyoro. If you stay in Ibadan you'll know this hospital. She was 58 years at the time of her diagnosis. Before she was diagnosed she was getting sick and having symptoms like cold, head ache, sweating at night, and insomnia. We were worried because this is a person that hardly get sick, so we took her to a private hospital where the doctor told us she has typhoid. She was on drip for two days before discharge after that she was fine again. Not until 3 months later she started having those symptoms again, we didn't count it as anything and took her to that same hospital where she was given drips again. After the drips she was fine again.

The last straw was when she started vomiting and fainted on me, I was the only one at home that day. I performed CPR on her and then I decided to take her to a general hospital where proper medical examination can be done on her.

When we got there we queue, collect card and wait for doctor to attend to us. The doctor ask us some questions and the symptoms she has been having and for how long. After that the doctor directed us to where a nurse collected samples of her blood and we waited for the result.

When the doctor said she has HIV I couldn't believe my ears, all blood drained from my body and I was shaking. It was the last thing I expected because this was a person whose last born was 19years at the time. After she was diagnosed the doctor gave her drugs, she started explaining how to take the drug and how taking it everyday without missing a dose is important.

Our journey back home was quiet, I was thinking throughout, how did this happen? When we got home we meet my uncle (her husband) and we told her everything the doctor said. Everybody was just looking at one another, thinking 'we all don get HIV'.

The next morning my uncle took us all to the hospital to get tested and to know who and who have the disease. After going through the hospital routine our results came out. We were all tested negative including her husband, which brings all of us to ask, how did she get it? Till today no one knows. Her doctor says she has been living with it for over 5 years and none of us know including her.

My observations in her years of taking ARV drugs.

As I said earlier she was very sick when I took her to the hospital. Her CD4 count was 194, way too low. Normal CD4 count is from 500 to 1400. CD4 count is a test that measures how many CD4 cells you have in your blood. Low CD4 count means your body can't fight bacteria, viruses, and other invading germs.

Three months into the drugs she was tested again and her count was 242, another 3 months and it was 269.

She has been getting tested every six months and in the last five years her CD4 count has being between 340-390 and she hasn't suffer any illness whatsoever. Except for the drugs she's taken you won't know she has HIV.

How the drug is taken.

The drug is taken once in a day. It is left for you to decide when you want to take it but once you chose, you must be consistent with the time when you take the next dose so that it will be the exact time everyday. Doctors usually advise patients to take the drug at night because of the side effects which includes drowsiness and dizziness. The drug is taken 2 hrs after eating. When I asked the doctor why she said something about pepper and oil reacting with the drug.

The ARV drugs is free if you go to general hospital. The bottle contains 30 tablets to be complete in a month.

Important things you can do as an HIV person.

1. Avoid drinking alcohol/smoking as this can compromise your health condition. This is really very important.

2. Eat good and healthy food.

3. Exercise.

4. Eat a lot of fruit: her doctor emphasize on this. It doesn't have to be expensive, you can buy oranges, mangoes, bananas, watermelons and other cheap fruits.

5. Take your drug daily: This is very important even if you forget to take it at the usual time, just take it whenever you remember. Like let's say you normally take the drug at 9pm but then you forgot or you slept off. When you wake up just take it. DO NOT MISS A DOSE.

6. If you feel or have any changes in your body. Go to your doctor and explain to him/her. I'm saying this because after few months of taken her drug she was coughing persistently, her doctor had to give her some cough medicine. Although she's not using any cough medicine again as all symptoms has gone. Only the ARV drug and septrin.

The side effect of ARV drugs

The first month she started the drugs she complains of having nightmares, fatigue, headache, and dizziness but with time her body adapted to it and all the symptoms disappeared.

Having a strong immunity also plays important role in an HIV person. I think those with genotype AA tends to adapt well with HIV which explains why none of us know she has the virus in her body for over five years.

All I'm trying to get to is that having HIV is not the end of the world, it's not a death sentence. What kills most of these people is the fear and stigma from friends and family.

When people tell you they have HIV, do not run away from them like they are plague or some kind of viral infection. Love them, support them, play with them, laugh with them. You cannot contract the disease by playing with them, eating together, sharing cutleries, handshakes, hugs, etc.

In the end we are all going to die whether today or tomorrow, accident happens everyday. People slumps and die, people drown, fire accident happens, building collapse. I mean there are 1000 ways to die.

Those that you think they will die today, you may die before them. When it is your TIME, it is your TIME.






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Fuel is now 17.73 dollar per barrel thats about 27 naira a litre now.


Can we protest for the first time in our lives?? Lets use this time ,join forces together and make our voices heard.
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Euegene100001: 12:21am On Apr 18, 2020
The fear of hiv kills even more than the disease o I remember when I did a test for hiv,as soon as the result came out negative,it was like I just won a jackpot for 1m dollars come see joy

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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by GreenDee(f): 12:21am On Apr 18, 2020
Hmmn, all these killer diseases sha,...
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by stonecoldcafe: 12:22am On Apr 18, 2020
Notyamate:
Going through this thread https://www.nairaland.com/5795526/how-found-out-hiv-positive/1 I went through comments is your TIME.

This was insightful, thanks.
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Nobody: 12:28am On Apr 18, 2020
lefulefu:
so a person who is a heavy smoker and drinker b4 he caught the virus ..then how u going to tell such a person to stop drinking and smoking when he becomes positive cheesy.



Some of the drugs used in treatment can hurt the liver..HIV itself can hurt the liver and or kidneys...alcohol can hurt the liver and can decrease immunity...so one just wants to, and should quit those as a HIV positive person.
Same for smoking which affects many organs.

Those two behaviours drinking and smoking are also associated with more or increased “socialising” which is likely to be careless. This gets more people getting infected.
So yeah, counseling is for no drinking, no smoking.

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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Kingrefreshed: 12:30am On Apr 18, 2020
Gentleswift:
The doctor said she contracted d virus 5 yrs ago and yet her husband tested negative. These things don't add up. Does it means he haven't sexed her for d past five yers or, he has been using condom d last five yrs?



Everything must not factually add up before its accepted as the truth.


The Op is 100% right
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Healthyway15: 12:30am On Apr 18, 2020
Notyamate:
Going through this thread https://www.nairaland.com/5795526/how-found-out-hiv-positive/1 I went through comments and I laugh at the ignorance of some people on Nairaland. I'm sharing this story to people living with HIV reading this, you are not alone. Believe me there are many people out there with this disease, some happily married, growing old and having healthy kids.

On April 2013 my aunt got diagnosed with HIV at Catholic Hospital, Oluyoro. If you stay in Ibadan you'll know this hospital. She was 58 years at the time of her diagnosis. Before she was diagnosed she was getting sick and having symptoms like cold, head ache, sweating at night, and insomnia. We were worried because this is a person that hardly get sick, so we took her to a private hospital where the doctor told us she has typhoid. She was on drip for two days before discharge after that she was fine again. Not until 3 months later she started having those symptoms again, we didn't count it as anything and took her to that same hospital where she was given drips again. After the drips she was fine again.

The last straw was when she started vomiting and fainted on me, I was the only one at home that day. I performed CPR on her and then I decided to take her to a general hospital where proper medical examination can be done on her.

When we got there we queue, collect card and wait for doctor to attend to us. The doctor ask us some questions and the symptoms she has been having and for how long. After that the doctor directed us to where a nurse collected samples of her blood and we waited for the result.

When the doctor said she has HIV I couldn't believe my ears, all blood drained from my body and I was shaking. It was the last thing I expected because this was a person whose last born was 19years at the time. After she was diagnosed the doctor gave her drugs, she started explaining how to take the drug and how taking it everyday without missing a dose is important.

Our journey back home was quiet, I was thinking throughout, how did this happen? When we got home we meet my uncle (her husband) and we told her everything the doctor said. Everybody was just looking at one another, thinking 'we all don get HIV'.

The next morning my uncle took us all to the hospital to get tested and to know who and who have the disease. After going through the hospital routine our results came out. We were all tested negative including her husband, which brings all of us to ask, how did she get it? Till today no one knows. Her doctor says she has been living with it for over 5 years and none of us know including her.

My observations in her years of taking ARV drugs.

As I said earlier she was very sick when I took her to the hospital. Her CD4 count was 194, way too low. Normal CD4 count is from 500 to 1400. CD4 count is a test that measures how many CD4 cells you have in your blood. Low CD4 count means your body can't fight bacteria, viruses, and other invading germs.

Three months into the drugs she was tested again and her count was 242, another 3 months and it was 269.

She has been getting tested every six months and in the last five years her CD4 count has being between 340-390 and she hasn't suffer any illness whatsoever. Except for the drugs she's taken you won't know she has HIV.

How the drug is taken.

The drug is taken once in a day. It is left for you to decide when you want to take it but once you chose, you must be consistent with the time when you take the next dose so that it will be the exact time everyday. Doctors usually advise patients to take the drug at night because of the side effects which includes drowsiness and dizziness. The drug is taken 2 hrs after eating. When I asked the doctor why she said something about pepper and oil reacting with the drug.

The ARV drugs is free if you go to general hospital. The bottle contains 30 tablets to be complete in a month.

Important things you can do as an HIV person.

1. Avoid drinking alcohol/smoking as this can compromise your health condition. This is really very important.

2. Eat good and healthy food.

3. Exercise.

4. Eat a lot of fruit: her doctor emphasize on this. It doesn't have to be expensive, you can buy oranges, mangoes, bananas, watermelons and other cheap fruits.

5. Take your drug daily: This is very important even if you forget to take it at the usual time, just take it whenever you remember. Like let's say you normally take the drug at 9pm but then you forgot or you slept off. When you wake up just take it. DO NOT MISS A DOSE.

6. If you feel or have any changes in your body. Go to your doctor and explain to him/her. I'm saying this because after few months of taken her drug she was coughing persistently, her doctor had to give her some cough medicine. Although she's not using any cough medicine again as all symptoms has gone. Only the ARV drug and septrin.

The side effect of ARV drugs

The first month she started the drugs she complains of having nightmares, fatigue, headache, and dizziness but with time her body adapted to it and all the symptoms disappeared.

Having a strong immunity also plays important role in an HIV person. I think those with genotype AA tends to adapt well with HIV which explains why none of us know she has the virus in her body for over five years.

All I'm trying to get to is that having HIV is not the end of the world, it's not a death sentence. What kills most of these people is the fear and stigma from friends and family.

When people tell you they have HIV, do not run away from them like they are plague or some kind of viral infection. Love them, support them, play with them, laugh with them. You cannot contract the disease by playing with them, eating together, sharing cutleries, handshakes, hugs, etc.

In the end we are all going to die whether today or tomorrow, accident happens everyday. People slumps and die, people drown, fire accident happens, building collapse. I mean there are 1000 ways to die.

Those that you think they will die today, you may die before them. When it is your TIME, it is your TIME.



Thanks for this educative piece... Just got it bookmarked so as to probably educate more people in the future.
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Nobody: 12:30am On Apr 18, 2020
Mizwisdom:
So people should go out and contact HIV because your aunt is living with it? taking tablet every day for the rest of her life sad


Is that what you garnered from the post?
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Kingrefreshed: 12:33am On Apr 18, 2020
ibkayee:
Helpful, positive information

Not to be a debbie downer however, but how accessible are these treatments for the average person in Nigeria? It isn't a death sentence when you have access to a certain quality of healthcare


The pills are in every federal medical centers nationalwide........FREE OF CHARGE!!!

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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Nobody: 12:33am On Apr 18, 2020
doggedfighter:

So that's you got from her write-up?


I posted this exact thing
Her posts can numb the mind lipsrsealed
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Nobody: 12:35am On Apr 18, 2020
chuksfluential:
Please can you get hiv by sucking a girl?


Yes, in a nutshell, you can get HIV from sucking a girl (and vice versa).
Thank you.
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by toprealman: 12:51am On Apr 18, 2020
OP she vomitted and you still have her CPR....what an MVP you are bro.
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Nobody: 12:51am On Apr 18, 2020
Kyom20:
This is wonderful information and serves as a very inspiring story to all who are going through similar situations. I am glad that your aunty is doing well and i pray she remains consistent in taking of her medication.

Nigerians can be really ignorant and its surprising that so many of them have phones and data yet do not use it. There have been so many advances in the treatment and management of various health conditions. So many diseases are no longer considered as deadly as they were 10 or 20 years ago.

Look at you .. it's not that they don't use their phone and Data. But they are just senseless
They will prefer to read about Davidos life and Chioma. Stupid people.

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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by mignone(f): 1:00am On Apr 18, 2020
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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by DexterousOne(m): 1:17am On Apr 18, 2020
Ibrahiimo:
yeah, you're RIGHT

WOMEN loves ATTENTION alot

fortunately or unfortunately, I don't give WOMEN attention, they EARN it

That's the way to go

Only if 80%of men do same

Iberibeism going on in the social media space will drastically reduce

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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by noisy45(m): 1:39am On Apr 18, 2020
maberry:
There are diseases worse than HIV but I prefer not to HIV abeg

example hepatitis
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by noisy45(m): 1:42am On Apr 18, 2020
Gentleswift:
The doctor said she contracted d virus 5 yrs ago and yet her husband tested negative. These things don't add up. Does it means he haven't sexed her for d past five yers or, he has been using condom d last five yrs?

Her viral load was less to infect her husband through sex..

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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Nobody: 1:46am On Apr 18, 2020
chuksfluential:
Please can you get hiv by sucking a girl?
No(almost impossible)
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by ruggedtimi(m): 1:49am On Apr 18, 2020
Best detailed thread about H.I.V so far on nairaland
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by Originalsly: 2:56am On Apr 18, 2020
No doubt.... there are drugs that suppress HIV and allow one to live for yearssss without becoming an AIDS case. From this write up.... I have doubts about the test. Never mind the family.... how can the husband be negative?.... especially if she had it for 5 years? How can they even know she had it for 5 years? The aunt should be taken to a different general hospital to be tested. I can bet my life the results would not be anywhere near the same. I would not at all be surprised to learn that she is not HIV positive period.
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by uuzba(m): 3:22am On Apr 18, 2020
phelonrays:
Always had at the back of mind, regarding it as a "death sentence"

Thanks Op....

But I still dey fear this virus like ʍɐd...grin
Without the drugs, it is a death sentence. If the aunty didn't go to hospital, or if they didn't give her the ARV drugs, she would have died. They would be still be giving her drip every month be her immunity will be getting lower and lower till she catch another disease, pnemonia and die of it

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Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by uuzba(m): 3:25am On Apr 18, 2020
merahki:



Is that what you garnered from the post?
Foolish people are still asking about sex in the comments
Why people cannot just keep their thing in one place, think positive and abstain from everything..
Re: Having HIV Is Not A Death Sentence by flytaminC(m): 3:51am On Apr 18, 2020
How can she be positive for 5 years without knowing and without ARV. Sounds impossible. Also within that 5 years, she never had sex with her husband

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