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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 7:58pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:


It's not about what they do but what they say about themselves!

Jehovah's Witnesses Organization claims to be the one and only group that God is using to teach honest hearted people in this last days, and that has been the way they always portray themselves!

The question is do you agree with their assertion?

If no is your answer, then why quoting their publication or referring people to it?

You are always learning from them but when they say they're the only true Christian group, you'll start opposing them as if you have any other group to present! undecided


You see YOURSELF abi? You NEED mirror I guess?

Maximus69: It's not about what THEY DO but what they SAY about THEMSELVES!

Maximus69: Jehovah's Witnesses Organization CLAIMS to be the One and ONLY group that God is using to teach honest hearted people in this last days, and that has been the way they always portray themselves!

The question is do you agree with their assertion?

Achorladey: As if I haven't attended to this previously on NAIRALAND. Should we bring the live recording and words of the leaders of the ORGANIZATION says they are NOT the ONLY group GOD is USING today, You will not believe it. Someone asked you, are you a CHARITY ORGANIZATION? You flex your FINGERS typing a NO in uppercase without even seeing the "article of association" of the ORGANIZATION.

Do they use BYE-LAWS to control their members? You will say NO.

No be today. It will repeat itself again. Na time.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 8:14pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:



You see YOURSELF abi? You NEED mirror I guess?

No be today. It will repeat itself again. Na time.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are saying
"we are the only group worshiping our own God Jehovah"

Do you agree with their claim or not?

Simple YES or NO! smiley
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 8:19pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:


JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are saying
"we are the only group worshiping our own God Jehovah"

Do you agree with their claim or not?

Simple YES or NO! smiley

You cannot answer the question I posed earlier you expect me to answer YOURS.


I have answered your question long before this time I have repeated it today again. Look at the last post it's there. The leaders of the ORGANIZATION says NO. You want me to say YES on their BEHALF. HAHAHAHAHA Oga Maximus69 alias (I am through with you)
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 8:25pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:


Please thank Maximus69 too, he has held my NECK tightly and don't want to GIVE me space to BREATHE for citing the PUBLICATION(Awake) of the ORGANIZATION he is a member of and CHERISH simply because I place SOME of HIS post on NAIRALAND under SCRUTINY.

If you don't do so HE will COME BACK and say I am enjoying the GLORY of the ORGANIZATION he belongs despite not in agreement with what they DO.

Hmm i have not been able to open the link.
Are are witness sir?
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 8:27pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:


JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are saying
"we are the only group worshiping our own God Jehovah"

Do you agree with their claim or not?

Simple YES or NO! smiley

Let me ask you what is in Matthew 6:9
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 8:28pm On May 03, 2020
Princewell2012:


Hmm i have not been able to open the link.
Are are witness sir?
Which one are you unable to open
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 8:32pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:


You cannot answer the question I posed earlier you expect me to answer YOURS.


I have answered your question long before this time I have repeated it today again. Look at the last post it's there. The leaders of the ORGANIZATION says NO. You want me to say YES on their BEHALF. HAHAHAHAHA Oga Maximus69 alias (I am through with you)

Jehovah's Witnesses don't pray with none Witnesses.
Don't marry from outside the group.
Don't do any act of worship with others.
Don't attend any religious gathering apart from their own.
Don't receive tracts or religious publication from any other source.
Disagree with all the religious dogmas of Christendom Churches such as immortality of the soul, Trinity, all good people go to heaven and eternal torment of bad souls.

So you're saying they agreed that others are co~worshipers of their God? cheesy

Keep deceiving yourself! wink
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 8:41pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:

Which one are you unable to open

It is not like am finding it difficult to open. I will do that at my own leisure time.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 8:51pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:


Jehovah's Witnesses don't pray with none Witnesses.
Don't marry from outside the group.
Don't do any act of worship with others.
Don't attend any religious gathering apart from their own.
Don't receive tracts or religious publication from any other source.
Disagree with all the religious dogmas of Christendom Churches such as immortality of the soul, Trinity, all good people go to heaven and eternal torment of bad souls.

So you're saying they agreed that others are co~worshipers of their God? cheesy

Keep deceiving yourself! wink

What is in Matthew 6:9 as contained in the NWT. when you go out for PREACHING and TEACHING. Do you ask the HOUSEHOLDER to read it? When they read it DO YOU agree with what is contained in the Bible of your HOUSEHOLDER as well?

HAHAHAHAHA.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 8:52pm On May 03, 2020
Brunicekid:
Self defence when done properly: I don't think that's a sin.

Can you shade more light to it please?
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 8:56pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:


Let me ask you what is in Matthew 6:9
John 8:44
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 8:58pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:


Haba Apostate! undecided

Someone threw a question to the floor and all you could do is to quote the publication of your enemy not even the Bible!

So Awake magazine has now become the book to refer people who asked sincere questions!

I just saw your comment on this thread. Hmm you have answered exelently. But i have some reservation. I will leave that till tomorrow. Thanks.

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 8:59pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:


Haba Apostate! undecided

Someone threw a question to the floor and all you could do is to quote the publication of your enemy not even the Bible!

So Awake magazine has now become the book to refer people who asked sincere questions!
Thank you.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 9:10pm On May 03, 2020
[quote author=Maximus69 post=89150073]

Self defense is something we should look into critically as students of the greatest Counselor who ever lived on this planet.

The people who ordered Jesus' arrest are the rulers of the Jewish community back then (authority) so it's wrong from God's standpoint to resist such arrest.
The reason why Peter felt like fighting back is because the community police came with thugs holding clubs and machetes to arrest an innocent man at night! Matthew 26:55

Of course a Christian can defend himself but you must take into consideration some important facts.

©Are you doing so just to protect lives?
©Are you doing so to protect properties?
©What is the motive behind your actions, to kill the culprit or disarm him?
©What is your opinion, killing him after he's disarmed or to take him to the authorities?

(1)There many ways to protect your life, Jesus taught us not to accumulate material possessions because it will attract both good and evil people to us. So w
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 9:18pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:

John 8:44
SMH for you. You know who you are. I won't REPEAT it anymore Mr Maximus69 alias I AM THROUGH WITH YOU
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Nobody: 9:25pm On May 03, 2020
achorladey:

SMH for you. You know who you are. I won't REPEAT it anymore Mr Maximus69 alias I AM THROUGH WITH YOU

Action speaks louder than words my guy!

Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only organization doing God's will on planet earth today! cheesy

So far you can't quote the Bible but their publication when someone asked a question, you can't say it better.

But learn to stop blasphemy, you can't be saying one thing and doing another! wink
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by davidinchrist(m): 10:09pm On May 03, 2020
Princewell2012:
When someone enters my house with a weapon and wanted to attack me, but I quickly fight back and harm him. Have I committed any sin or offence before God?

Well why I brought this question is this. During the period of the lockdown, when one million boys were disturbing and threatening the whole places. I decided to join the boys in my neighborhood to move around with cutlass to keep our environment safe. Yes I know God is our protector. A lots of people criticized it even my wife. Please is it wrong for me to engage in such a thing.

Please don't mind my grammatical blunders.
Thank you.

For followers of Jesus, it's terribly Wrong; otherwise, it isn't (for most people).

May Jesus Give You Light.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by achorladey: 10:11pm On May 03, 2020
Maximus69:


Action speaks louder than words my guy!

Jehovah's Witnesses are the one and only organization doing God's will on planet earth today! cheesy
.

But learn to stop blasphemy, you can't be saying one thing and doing another! wink

You see yourself, do you need mirror ? I ASKED

REALITY says you afraid of looking at the MIRROR because you afraid of you ARE.

Tell me what is contained in Matthew 6:9 about YOUR GOD? You cannot. Do you use it when PREACHING? No response. My first post on this thread was about a SCRIPTURE bring it back let us see. You cannot.

Why? It will bring to light who YOU ARE. That's why you hang on this cited below


Maximus69: SO FAR YOU CAN'T QUOTE the Bible but their publication when someone asked question, you can't say it better.

Achorladey: I just SMH Everytime I respond to your comments here on Nairaland. Prove to me who you are by RESPONDING to the words in capital letters in your post I highlighted. Bring back my first POST on this thread.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 9:53pm On May 04, 2020
davidinchrist:


For followers of Jesus, it's terribly Wrong; otherwise, it isn't (for most people).

May Jesus Give You Light.



Hmm are you saying i should allow him to kill me? However if died under that condition, is that a ticket for me to go to heaven?
Thank you.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by davidinchrist(m): 10:06pm On May 04, 2020
Princewell2012:




Hmm are you saying i should allow him to kill me? However if died under that condition, is that a ticket for me to go to heaven?
Thank you.


Romans 12:19 KJV
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

2 Timothy 4:14 KJV
Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:

Romans 12:18 KJV
If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

May God bless you Sir.

Good bye.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Praylove: 10:35pm On May 04, 2020
Princewell2012:
When someone enters my house with a weapon and wanted to attack me, but I quickly fight back and harm him. Have I committed any sin or offence before God?

Well why I brought this question is this. During the period of the lockdown, when one million boys were disturbing and threatening the whole places. I decided to join the boys in my neighborhood to move around with cutlass to keep our environment safe. Yes I know God is our protector. A lots of people criticized it even my wife. Please is it wrong for me to engage in such a thing.

Please don't mind my grammatical blunders.
Thank you.

If you have the time try to listen to Pastor Chris message on *the Concept Of Sin* your answer lies therein... Would be too voluminous to type it here but try to listen to the message
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Princewell2012(m): 11:13pm On May 04, 2020
Praylove:


If you have the time try to listen to Pastor Chris message on *the Concept Of Sin* your answer lies therein... Would be too voluminous to type it here but try to listen to the message

Thanks. How can i get a copy?
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by MuttleyLaff: 5:36am On May 05, 2020
Princewell2012:
When someone enters my house with a weapon and wanted to attack me, but I quickly fight back and harm him. Have I committed any sin or offence before God?

Well why I brought this question is this. During the period of the lockdown, when one million boys were disturbing and threatening the whole places. I decided to join the boys in my neighborhood to move around with cutlass to keep our environment safe. Yes I know God is our protector. A lots of people criticized it even my wife. Please is it wrong for me to engage in such a thing.

Please don't mind my grammatical blunders.
Thank you.

MistadeRegal:
Self defense is not prohibited by the Bible, neither condemned by JESUS CHRIST. What He only doesn't approve of is terrorism.

If you have an artillery for self defense, it's not a sin.
As Christians, we have a GOD-given-right-to-bear-arms.

Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Princewell2012:
Thank you. There was a time I wanted to flee my house because of fear. Lots of thoughts were going on in my mind weather to run or stay and face them.
I can't allow little children to rape my wife right before my face. so I have to join those boys outside to fight for my self. But my wife kicked against it, which nearly bring quarrel between us.

MistadeRegal:
Don't worry. Just tell your wife to read that Bible verse.

Princewell2012:
Thanks.

Eulalia:
In Peter's case, he was fighting a Wrong battle cos the word of God must be fulfilled. so Peter was more like trying to hinder /interrupt the plan of God for Jesus to be given up at that time. So it different.

If you see someone trying to attack you, by all means, defend yourself. But one thing I know for sure, God will never allow evil attack on His children.

Princewell2012:
Thank you. Am trying to buy a cutlass, is it a bad idea? I dont have any in my house right now.

Eulalia:
That would be wishing or calling for it. Just pray a prayer of protection always. The reason your action against the MBoys was justified is because they were already on their way. You guys were taken unawares. So from now on guard against such with prayers and they won't even know your dwelling.

Princewell2012:
Thats exactly what i have started doing already, after a lots of aguement with my wife. Believe you me i can sleep fine now. It seems like my wife has more faith than i do. Lol some time she will say jokingly later you will call yourself a pastor.

Thanks for your understanding.

Eulalia:
Lol really? She's funny though.
You're welcome.
Stay safe.

Princewell2012:
Thank you. dont mind her, she dont know i was only after the wellbeing of her and her our children.
Happy sunday.

Maximus69:
Haba Apostate! undecided

Someone threw a question to the floor and all you could do is to quote the publication of your enemy not even the Bible!

So Awake magazine has now become the book to refer people who asked sincere questions!

achorladey:
When you look up the thread. IT TELLS ME I WAS HERE BEFORE YOU and it should convey same message to you.

JESUS didn't say HABA APOSTATES when SATAN quoted the PSALMS in Matthew 4.

Hahahahaha

Who told you JWS are my ENEMY? Hahahahaha.

You want to CONSOLE yourself Oga Maximus69 alias I AM THROUGH WITH YOU

Brunicekid:
Self defence when done properly:
I don't think that's a sin.

Princewell2012:
Can you shade more light to it please?

Maximus69:
Self defense is something we should look into critically as students of the greatest Counselor who ever lived on this planet.

The people who ordered Jesus' arrest are the rulers of the Jewish community back then (authority) so it's wrong from God's standpoint to resist such arrest.
The reason why Peter felt like fighting back is because the community police came with thugs holding clubs and machetes to arrest an innocent man at night! Matthew 26:55

Of course a Christian can defend himself but you must take into consideration some important facts.

©Are you doing so just to protect lives?
©Are you doing so to protect properties?
©What is the motive behind your actions, to kill the culprit or disarm him?
©What is your opinion, killing him after he's disarmed or to take him to the authorities?

(1)There many ways to protect your life, Jesus taught us not to accumulate material possessions because it will attract both good and evil people to us. So while trying to protect such possessions we may deny the Christ! Matthew 19:16-24
(2)Whatever property we acquire belongs to the world, we brought nothing and we can't take any out of here {1Timothy 6:7} so if the children of the world (Satan's agents) catches us in a tight corner and demand for these things, the best for a child of God to remember is that "the world will pass away with it's desires"! 1John 2:15-17
(3)We shouldn't think of taking anybody's life no matter what such a person does, we should remember that as Christians we have a duty 'to save lives and not to take it' so our motive should always be to disarm the culprit.
(4)After he has been overpowered, we must not forget that such a thing is not by our might, so we shouldn't judge him {Matthew 7:1} we can only take him to the appropriate authority to do their own job! Romans 13:1-7
God bless you! smiley

Princewell2012:
I just saw your comment on this thread. Hmm you have answered exelently. But i have some reservation. I will leave that till tomorrow. Thanks.

davidinchrist:
For followers of Jesus, it's terribly Wrong; otherwise, it isn't (for most people).
May Jesus Give You Light.

Princewell2012:
Hmm are you saying i should allow him to kill me? However if died under that condition, is that a ticket for me to go to heaven?
Thank you.

davidinchrist:
Romans 12:19 KJV
"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."

2 Timothy 4:14 KJV
"Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:"

Romans 12:18 KJV
"If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."

May God bless you Sir.
Good bye.
"2If a thief is caught in the act of breaking into a house and is struck and killed in the process,
the person who killed the thief is not guilty of murder
.
3But if it happens in daylight, the one who killed the thief is guilty of murder
“A thief who is caught must pay in full for everything he stole.
If he cannot pay, he must be sold as a slave to pay for his theft.
"
- Exodus 22:2-3

"“But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming,
he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.
(i.e. But know this ye, that if the goodman of the house knew at what hour the thief would come,
he would certainly watch, and would not suffer his house to be broken open.)
"
- Matthew 24:43

"You would surely not let a thief break into your home, if you knew when the thief was coming."
- Luke 12:39

Revenge, avenge or vengeance is not the same as defence, self-defense and/or genuine self-protection.

Self-defense is protecting yourself and others from immediate danger. The goal is to stop the attacker from attacking.

If you are attacked and do not defend yourself you can be killed or seriously injured.

Arming to defend yourself with, is not assault. Assault is the physical attack the person coming at you is doing. Robbing people, is anti-social, to on top assault them, is not just worse but is equally unlawful, unacceptable and unwelcoming as stealing/robbing. You're justified to defend yourself and your family with reasonable counter force against being robbed and physical attack, but wont be justified to take revenge, because as we all know, vengeance and even recompense, is for the Lord (i.e. Deuteronomy 32:35)

Bottom line and show all these to your missus Mrs Princewill2012, lol, the Bible never forbids self-defense, it permits believers to defend themselves. I'll soon send you a write up on how to align and tune in the soul with all the spirit man is getting from the Spirit. I havent forgotten. Sorry its been over 4 weeks late coming, lol

# FREE MUBARAK BALA NOW! angry angry angry
# Shout it from the rooftops

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Hausa(m): 3:22pm On May 05, 2020
I don't know.

But you may want to watch the World War II movie - "Hacksaw Ridge," and think of what Desmond Doss said about fighting back.

He was a Christian who said his bible never said that. He went to the war without holding a gun and he survived.
Rather than fighting, he was saving lives. And when he was hit, his focus was on saving himself and others.
He'd eventually live till 2006 - when he died.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by BruncleZuma: 9:47am On May 02
NO
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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by ChiefSosa(m): 9:50am On May 02
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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by NisforNicky: 9:51am On May 02
whizbee:
iyalaya anybody, make one useless thief come close, he'll find out why Jesus didn't jump from the mountain when the devil was testing him

eruku

cheesy
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by stanliwise(m): 9:51am On May 02
Princewell2012:
When someone enters my house with a weapon and wanted to attack me, but I quickly fight back and harm him. Have I committed any sin or offence before God?

Well why I brought this question is this. During the period of the lockdown, when one million boys were disturbing and threatening the whole places. I decided to join the boys in my neighborhood to move around with cutlass to keep our environment safe. Yes I know God is our protector. A lots of people criticized it even my wife. Please is it wrong for me to engage in such a thing.

Please don't mind my grammatical blunders.
Thank you.
No no no no no no no.
The issue is alittle complicated than it seem actually.
If killing someone to protect yourself. It is called man slaughter and depends on the circumstances can be punishable. Punishable in the sense as over reaction or you have the chance to stop them without killing them.

On part as a Christian, God judge the heart of men as he has made us understand. He is not a God moved by mere actions and emotions. If your heart and intentions where clear, God in is his mercies understands than any human.

But I urge you to do your personal Bible consultation and you will find out that there was no place go prevented Christians from protecting them sef.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Zachsneider: 9:51am On May 02
I don't think it's a sin.
Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Dreyton36: 9:51am On May 02
Confused people

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Re: Is It A Sin For A Christian To Fight Back As A Self Defense? by Lemmy123(m): 9:52am On May 02
Be forming holy until them comot ya teeth just now grin

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