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Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by JoradOz(m): 10:29pm On May 22
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Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by CHARLOE(m): 12:53am On May 23
LordReed:


I didn't ask for what we use them for, I asked why an intelligent creator created them.
U can as well ask 'why did he create gold, copper, zinc etc
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by Judybash93(m): 2:49am On May 23
CHARLOE:
D intelligent creator made mostly raw materials n gave man d intelligence to process n develop them. How u guys can look at d complex design of ur body n how d earth works; revolving around its axis in exactly 24hrs n still claim it's an accident baffles me! If today has 20hrs, tomorrow 11hrs, d next day 24hrs etc I would understand ur point. Or if some people have eyes on their back/leg etc, some 2, 4, 5 eyes, etc then u may have a point. But 99.9% of people n animals have same body parts in same locations! D truth is, like someone pointed out up there, ur lack of belief is based on d 2 major religions n their ignorance/lies!

Exactly 24 hours? Nope, it's exactly 23.9344696 hours grin
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by mmsen: 5:47am On May 23
What is intelligent about creating mosquitoes?

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Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by LordReed(m): 6:14am On May 23
CHARLOE:

U can as well ask 'why did he create gold, copper, zinc etc

Maybe. Why did the intelligent designer create them?
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by LordReed(m): 9:27am On May 23
CHARLOE:
D intelligent creator made mostly raw materials n gave man d intelligence to process n develop them. How u guys can look at d complex design of ur body n how d earth works; revolving around its axis in exactly 24hrs n still claim it's an accident baffles me! If today has 20hrs, tomorrow 11hrs, d next day 24hrs etc I would understand ur point. Or if some people have eyes on their back/leg etc, some 2, 4, 5 eyes, etc then u may have a point. But 99.9% of people n animals have same body parts in same locations! D truth is, like someone pointed out up there, ur lack of belief is based on d 2 major religions n their ignorance/lies!

Where did you see me say it's an accident? Who told you my lack of belief is based on the 2 major religions? Don't make claims you cannot support.
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by onlyfacts: 8:28pm On May 23
LordReed:
You guys propose that an intelligent designer created everything, so what was its purpose for these sorts of elements?

An example of a popular object that is radioactive is the Sun.The Sun, powered by nuclear fusion, emits radiation that is both necessary and harmful to life on Earth. Luckily the atmosphere filters out much of the harmful radiation emitted by the sun( it does emit gamma rays from solar flares), though some radiation, such as ultraviolet light, does pass through.
Without the sun, all LIVES on our solar system will not exist!!!


Inert atmospheres consisting of gases such as argon, nitrogen, or helium are commonly used in chemical reaction chambers and in storage containers for oxygen-sensitive or water-sensitive substances, to prevent unwanted reactions of these substances with oxygen or water.

Argon is widely used in fluorescence tubes and low energy light bulbs. Argon gas helps to protect the metal filament inside the bulb from reacting with oxygen and corroding the filament under high temperature.

Neon is used in making advertising signs. Neon gas in a vacuum tube glows bright red in colour when electricity is passed through. Different coloured neon lights can also be made by using other gases.

Helium gas is mainly used to fill hot air and party balloons. Balloons filled with it float upwards and this phenomenon is achieved as helium gas is less dense than air.

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Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by LordReed(m): 8:43pm On May 23
onlyfacts:


An example of a popular object that is radioactive is the Sun.The Sun, powered by nuclear fusion, emits radiation that is both necessary and harmful to life on Earth. Luckily the atmosphere filters out much of the harmful radiation emitted by the sun( it does emit gamma rays from solar flares), though some radiation, such as ultraviolet light, does pass through.
Without the sun, all LIVES on our solar system will not exist!!!


Inert atmospheres consisting of gases such as argon, nitrogen, or helium are commonly used in chemical reaction chambers and in storage containers for oxygen-sensitive or water-sensitive substances, to prevent unwanted reactions of these substances with oxygen or water.

Argon is widely used in fluorescence tubes and low energy light bulbs. Argon gas helps to protect the metal filament inside the bulb from reacting with oxygen and corroding the filament under high temperature.

Neon is used in making advertising signs. Neon gas in a vacuum tube glows bright red in colour when electricity is passed through. Different coloured neon lights can also be made by using other gases.

Helium gas is mainly used to fill hot air and party balloons. Balloons filled with it float upwards and this phenomenon is achieved as helium gas is less dense than air.



My question wasn't what we use these elements for, my question is what was the purpose the intelligent designer had for their creation.
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by onlyfacts: 8:50pm On May 23
LordReed:


My question wasn't what we use these elements for, my question is what was the purpose the intelligent designer had for their creation.

Sun is for life on earth and a source of power too amongst others. No sun and we won't be having this conversation.

The inert gases have been found useful by man and are widely used. It has always been useful, the more we understand them, the more their purpose becomes clear.

Those are some of their purpose.
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by onlyfacts: 8:59pm On May 23
LordReed:
You guys propose that an intelligent designer created everything, so what was its purpose for these sorts of elements?

Let me also add, about 1% of the atmosphere is the inert gas argon. You might think that's irrelevant, being inert, but MOST of it comes from the radioactive decay of potassium-40. For there to be no potassium-40, which is inextricably mixed in with stable potassium, there would need to be no potassium at all. As our nervous system needs it to work, we would all already be dead by now. If no Argon, then no potassium-40 that formed it by decay which translate to death!
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by Indaboski007: 9:03pm On May 23
gensteejay:

For this sort of topics, it's good you read the book of universal history OtemAtum is compiling and critique it.

You can get the PDF version. Many key parts of the book have been hidden by mods on the thread.

Though some people may feel otherwise, that book is 100 times greater, more reasonable, and complete than any religious book of today or modern historical literature.

And that's not an exaggeration since I have read Qur'an from the front cover to the back many times as a former Muslim and know the Bible quite well.

I am also familiar with other religious texts.

So, I can make a fair comparison.

The book is an essential piece of literature to read and critique to learn of the origin of God, gods and goddesses, along with many philosophies and concepts in religions today and in history.

If some people base their atheistic notion on merely what they read in the Bible and Qur'an without reading a piece of literature like that book, they're only working with half knowledge/information on these issues.

The book has fuller stories of the gods and goddesses of religions and their prophets as many essential things about these entities are not in the Bible and Qur'an.

When I read the book in 2018, it took me a year to finish it as I was reading it piece by piece some days in the week due to my busy schedule. It's really worth checking out and critiquing.

I also studied the Seriot language Otem says he got most of the revelations in and can confirm it's a real language. And it's quite marvelous.

I consider the literature as an essential book of history, where one can learn many life's mysteries.

The book is seminal, and other great ones are "The Code to the Matrix" by Sevan Bomer and "A Brief History of Human Kind, Sapiens" by Yuval Noah.

If you're interested in reading the history book by Otem (or other related ones), you can send me a mail on skilledwriter88@gmail.com. I would send the PDF to you.

If otem was a white man by now em for don get millions of followers. I've read some of his works here. Looks similar to Sumerian literature on the origins of the world

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Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by Indaboski007: 9:16pm On May 23
LordReed:
You guys propose that an intelligent designer created everything, so what was its purpose for these sorts of elements?

Op your question is too funny. Infact I would say the existence of radioactive element proof that there is God. There are four forces

Gravitational electro-magnetic strong and weak nuclear forces without it you won't exist. Radioactive element makes nuclear forces work
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by Indaboski007: 9:20pm On May 23
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I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF NATURAL DISASTERS AND VOLCANOES BUT SINCE HE'S MYSTERIOUS, WE JUST HAVE TO LIVE AND DIE WITHOUT THE EXPLANATIONS FOR WHY A SUPPOSEDLY INTELLIGENT DESIGNER'S DESIGNS AREN'T SO INTELLIGENT AT ALL.

Plate tectonics. Volcanoes are part of what creates land. Every design has a process of working. Volcanoes bring out mineral resources
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by LordReed(m): 9:23pm On May 23
onlyfacts:


Sun is for life on earth and a source of power too amongst others. No sun and we won't be having this conversation.

The inert gases have been found useful by man and are widely used. It has always been useful, the more we understand them, the more their purpose becomes clear.

Those are some of their purpose.

What purpose did the intelligent designer have for them when it created them?
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by LordReed(m): 9:28pm On May 23
Indaboski007:


Op your question is too funny. Infact I would say the existence of radioactive element proof that there is God. There are four forces

Gravitational electro-magnetic strong and weak nuclear forces without it you won't exist. Radioactive element makes nuclear forces work

You are wrong about the bolded and besides the forces have nothing to do with my question.
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by onlyfacts: 9:31pm On May 23
LordReed:


What purpose did the intelligent designer have for them when it created them?

You should just read Genesis instead since my simple explanation of their purpose by an intelligent creator is not suitable for you. Genesis will explain better...
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by CodeTemplar: 9:38pm On May 23
LordReed:
You guys propose that an intelligent designer created everything, so what was its purpose for these sorts of elements?
They carry potential to serve world's energy needs for centuries to come...
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by LordReed(m): 9:39pm On May 23
onlyfacts:


You should just read Genesis instead since my simple explanation of their purpose by an intelligent creator is not suitable for you. Genesis will explain better...

There is nothing like inert or radioactive elements in the Bible so there is no answer there.

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Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by onlyfacts: 9:42pm On May 23
LordReed:


There is nothing like inert or radioactive elements in the Bible so there is no answer there.

Even if I showed you, you still won't comprehend. Cause I answered what you asked twice and still, to you I "didn't understand the question".

You answers are Already infront of you...
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by LordReed(m): 9:44pm On May 23
onlyfacts:


Even if I showed you, you still won't comprehend. Cause I answered what you asked twice and still, to you I "didn't understand the question".

You answers are Already infront of you...

Yeah the Bible you can twist to mean anything you like. Thanks but no thanks.
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by CAPSLOCKED: 9:47pm On May 23
Indaboski007:


Plate tectonics. Volcanoes are part of what creates land. Every design has a process of working. Volcanoes bring out mineral resources

VOLCANOES POLUTE LAND AND WATER, AND KILL FISHES.
VOLCANOES ERUPT TO KILL PEOPLE. WHAT ABOUT HURRICANES AND TORNADOES? WHO BENEFITS FROM THEM?
I'M SORRY YOUR EXCUSES ARE STUPID. EITHER THE DESIGNER OF THE WORLD WAS DUMB OR ALL THIS IS JUST HAPPENING AT RANDOM.

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Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by onlyfacts: 9:49pm On May 23
LordReed:


Yeah the Bible you can twist to mean anything you like. Thanks but no thanks.

If you believe this all along then this thread is like a waste of time for anybody that engages you.
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by LordReed(m): 9:50pm On May 23
onlyfacts:


If you believe this all along then this thread is like a waste of time for anybody that engages you.


That's your opinion and you are entitled to it.
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by CAPSLOCKED: 10:27pm On May 23
CHARLOE:
D intelligent creator made mostly raw materials n gave man d intelligence to process n develop them. How u guys can look at d complex design of ur body n how d earth works; revolving around its axis in exactly 24hrs n still claim it's an accident baffles me! If today has 20hrs, tomorrow 11hrs, d next day 24hrs etc I would understand ur point. Or if some people have eyes on their back/leg etc, some 2, 4, 5 eyes, etc then u may have a point. But 99.9% of people n animals have same body parts in same locations! D truth is, like someone pointed out up there, ur lack of belief is based on d 2 major religions n their ignorance/lies!

IF THINGS WERE LIKE THAT YOU'D STILL CLAIM GOD DID IT. WHATEVER THE OUTCOME IT'S GOD AND SOMETIMES DEVIL. RELIGION HAS THIS FIGURED OUT.

THE TRUTH IS THAT NOTHING IS INTELLIGENT ABOUT THIS DESIGN.
IS IT YOUR EYES, THE MOST FRAGILE THING IN THE WORLD? YOUR TESTICLES? A WOMAN'S REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM OR EVERYTHING ELSE IN OUR BODIES THAT POINTS OUT OBVIOUS MISTAKES IN THE HUMAN BODY SYSTEM?
LIKE I SAID ALREADY, IF WE HAD HORNS YOU'D STILL SAY WE'RE A PERFECT DESIGN. IF WE WALKED WITH OUR HEADS IT'S STILL A PERFECT DESIGN TO YOU BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS GOD, AND PERFECTLY INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED.

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Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by onlyfacts: 11:00pm On May 23
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IF THINGS WERE LIKE THAT YOU'D STILL CLAIM GOD DID IT. WHATEVER THE OUTCOME IT'S GOD AND SOMETIMES DEVIL. RELIGION HAS THIS FIGURED OUT.

THE TRUTH IS THAT NOTHING IS INTELLIGENT ABOUT THIS DESIGN.
IS IT YOUR EYES, THE MOST FRAGILE THING IN THE WORLD? YOUR TESTICLES? A WOMAN'S REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM OR EVERYTHING ELSE IN OUR BODIES THAT POINTS OUT OBVIOUS MISTAKES IN THE HUMAN BODY SYSTEM?
LIKE I SAID ALREADY, IF WE HAD HORNS YOU'D STILL SAY WE'RE A PERFECT DESIGN. IF WE WALKED WITH OUR HEADS IT'S STILL A PERFECT DESIGN TO YOU BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS GOD, AND PERFECTLY INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED.

I can't believe you just mocked the human design, by saying it is not a perfect work of art!

Even you can differentiate between something that is beautiful and something that's is not. I'm sure you can tell a beautiful girl from one who isn't so beautiful, in facials and form?

Yet you turn around and still mock the design.. Lol
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by CAPSLOCKED: 11:11pm On May 23
onlyfacts:


I can't believe you just mocked the human design, by saying it is not a perfect work of art!

Even you can differentiate between something that is beautiful and something that's is not. I'm sure you can tell a beautiful girl from one who isn't so beautiful, in facials and form?

Yet you turn around and still mock the design.. Lol

THE HUMAN DESIGN IS NOT A PERFECT ART. DO YOU KNOW WHAT "PERFECT" IS?
A HUMAN DESIGNER WOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB AT DESIGNING THE HUMAN BODY THAN YOUR MR. INTELLIGENT.
YOUR BODY HAS MANY FLAWS. IT CAN'T BE CALLED PERFECT.

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Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by onlyfacts: 11:14pm On May 23
CAPSLOCKED:


THE HUMAN DESIGN IS NOT A PERFECT ACT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT "PERFECT" IS?
A HUMAN DESIGNER WOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB AT DESIGNING THE HUMAN BODY THAN YOUR MR. INTELLIGENT.
YOUR BODY HAS MANY FLAWS. IT CAN'T BE CALLED PERFECT.

Before I say any other thing, please amaze me with the many flaws of the human body and their corrections?
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by CAPSLOCKED: 11:25pm On May 23
onlyfacts:


Before I say any other thing, please amaze me with the many flaws of the human body and their corrections?

GO ON, SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. I'M NOT AVAILABLE TO TRY TO UNCHANGE YOUR ALREADY MADE UP MIND.
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by onlyfacts: 11:29pm On May 23
CAPSLOCKED:


GO ON, SAY WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. I'M NOT AVAILABLE TO TRY TO UNCHANGE YOUR ALREADY MADE UP MIND.

You see its easier to just criticize than to provide solutions.. Lol.
Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by CAPSLOCKED: 11:39pm On May 23
onlyfacts:


You see its easier to just criticize than to provide solutions.. Lol.

I HAVE NOT CRITICIZED MY BODY. OR YOURS. IT'S A FACT THAT THE HUMAN BODY CAN'T BE CALLED "PERFECT".
LIKE I ALREADY MENTIONED, IF WE HAD TAILS IN FRONT OF OUR FACES INTELLIGENT CREATOR FANS WILL CLAIM WE'RE IN THE BEST FORM, SO I CAN'T LOSE TIME DISCUSSING THIS WITH YOU OR ANYONE.

PERFECT MEANS FLAWLESS, WITHOUT FAULT.
THE HUMAN EYE IS THE MOST FAULTY THING THERE IS. I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW THIS ANYWAY, IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE BIBLE.

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Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by onlyfacts: 11:45pm On May 23
CAPSLOCKED:


I HAVE NOT CRITICIZED MY BODY. OR YOURS. IT'S A FACT THAT THE HUMAN BODY CAN'T BE CALLED "PERFECT".
LIKE I ALREADY MENTIONED, IF WE HAD TAILS IN FRONT OF OUR FACES INTELLIGENT CREATOR FANS WILL CLAIM WE'RE IN THE BEST FORM, SO I CAN'T LOSE TIME DISCUSSING THIS WITH YOU OR ANYONE.

PERFECT MEANS FLAWLESS, WITHOUT FAULT.
THE HUMAN EYE IS THE MOST FAULTY THING THERE IS. I DON'T EXPECT YOU TO KNOW THIS ANYWAY, IT WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE BIBLE.

Good you mentioned the eyes, now let's use that as an example... Please mention what and what are faulty and how you intend to change it.

Hope it's not like the one some scientist have proposed below that makes us look like like aliens... Lol

Re: For Intelligent Design Proponents Why Were Inert & Radioactive Elements Created? by CAPSLOCKED: 11:56pm On May 23
onlyfacts:


Good you mentioned the eyes, now let's use that as an example... Please mention what and what are faulty and how you intend to change it.

Hope it's not like the one some scientist have proposed below that makes us look like like aliens... Lol

THIS GUY IS KIDDING ME.
SOME PEOPLE'S EYES ARE TOO LONG, SOME ARE TOO SHORT. WITHOUT GLASSES, SAY 800 YEARS AGO, PEOPLE WILL BE LIVING WITH SO MUCH DISCOMFORT. GLAUCOMA, CATARACTS, AND RETINAL DETACHMENT. THE LIST OF PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS "PERFECT" DESIGN NEVER ENDS. THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WILL SUFFER SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF VISUAL FUNCTION IN THEIR LIFETIMES, AND FOR MANY PEOPLE, IT STARTS EVEN BEFORE PUBERTY. THE EYES SUGGESTS A STRONG EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION. UNLESS A SENSIBLE INTELLIGENT DESIGNER ENJOYS ALL THESE EYE VARIATIONS, THEN GOOD FOR HIS MYSTERIOUS WAYS.

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