kingxsamz:


Smh...And you had to input that. Typical religious folk.
You still haven't answered my question though.
Is God capable of killing Satan? Yes
You keep avoiding it.

thankgod460:
He created us for purpose, that is why we pray to him.

BlowYourMind:
You haven't done what I asked you to do, you can't retain any knowledge of the truth given to you.

CAPSLOCKED:


SO HE CREATED YOU TO PRAY TO HIM?

shadeyinka:

Either you've been watching too many movies.
1. There is difference between Hell and the Lake of Fire
2. Hell is a temporary holding place of unrighteous souls. Satan is not in hell, he goes to and fro the earth. Demons are earthbound.
3. The lake of fire is the place of final rejected souls including fallen angels, demons, satan and unrighteous souls.

There is no single scripture that say that satan or his demons oversees Hell.

thankgod460:

My brother you are free to talk to God on anything that is not clear to you as per how God arrange all things and situation. He created us for purpose, that is why we pray to him. Good is not dead, ask and he will review to you how he runs his affairs. Don't just post things that can mislead people. Your question portrait God as author of confusion. That makes me to give you the first response

kingxsamz:


Nawa, so I have to do something before you say Yes or No?
Okay. What do you want me to do?

BlowYourMind:
Empty your cup of premeditation, seek knowledge with sincere heart, shun bitterness and hatred.

kingxsamz:


Okay, I have done all that.
Now I want to know the truth.
Can God kill Satan or not?
Yes or no.

BlowYourMind:
I have answered your question, go and check. three previous comment I quote, the answer is in your comment.

kingxsamz:
No need for long story. I just want a yes or no. Can God kill Satan?

kingxsamz:
No need for long story. I just want a yes or no. Can God kill Satan?

BlowYourMind:
Yes

kingxsamz:


Why don't you save us the stress of asking?
Since you're a believer, you should know.
So tell us.

KingAzubuike:
just when I thought I've heard it all. So there's a difference between hell and lake of fire? Lol

kingxsamz:


Can you prove the existence of hell?

KingAzubuike:
We all die. The good go to heaven and the bad go to hell. Hell is a place of suffering and torment headed by Satan. He oversees things there, it's his own version of heaven. His job is to punish those who were evil and bad while on Earth. Why do Christian's still see him as an evil being when he punishes the evil?

shadeyinka:

Can you prove the non existence of hell?

kingxsamz:


Guy your matter tire me o.
How the hell does someone prove the non existence of something that hasn't been proven to exist? How can you ask me to prove that hell doesn't exist when you haven't even been able to provide proof yourself? Is that how this works?
Incase you don't know, the burden of proof is on the person making the claim.

So I ask again, can you prove that hell exists?
I'm waiting.

kingxsamz:


But this contradicts your earlier claim that Satan was immortal and therefore he cannot submit to death. #To human Satan is immortal, to GOD, nothing is absolutely impossible, HE created him, HE can kill him, I am not talking for GOD, I am talking as human#
Now you're admitting that God can kill him. Which would mean that, Satan can actually die.
Now that aside.

If God can kill Satan and his cohorts, why can't he do that right away and end suffering in the human race, and also prevent more people from going to hell, since he already knows the number of people that will end up in there?# GOD is giving mankind the right to choose between good and bad

Answer comprehensively.

shadeyinka:


Benefit of electricity!
You've concentated on the benefit to mankind.
But creation is NOT for the benefit of human kind but God( the maker).
My argument was that some beneficial things also have their negative implications.

shadeyinka:


I laugh in Swahili.
Who told you we are all God's children?   The idea that you are Gods child is laughable if you don't have Gods Spirit/DNA in you.

This was what I said:


Would you drop very sharp knives in the midst of little kids and warn them not to touch it, all in the name of trying to see if they'll be obedient?

shadeyinka:

Same argument as above. We are not all God's children. If you consider yourself an atheist, are you in anyway different from laboratory rats?

what on earth are you talking about?   ... It seems you don't even know or understand what I'm talking about.
You only read to reply, but you'll never read to comprehend or understand. 

I asked, why should an all knowing god put something as dangerous as the tree of life in the garden when he knows it would hinder his plans for Adam and Eve? Why did he create the tree of life and go ahead to test Adam and Eve with it when he knows the outcome? Why did he place the tree of life in the garden knowing fully well that it will destroy his initial plans? And I used an example. Would you place sharp knives in the midst of children, knowing fully well that they'll play with it and hurt themselves, all in the name of testing them?   YES or NO.
In this context, sharp knives represents the tree of life, the children represents ADAM AND EVE, and you, God.
So where in my post did I claim to be God's child?
This time, take your time and read slowly. 
Now answer my question.

shadeyinka:

The bolded couldn't have been more wrong. But because it's the argument usually proposed by atheists, you swallow it hook, line and sinker without a little thought from your own end.

The one who challenges an established notion is the one to supply the proof!

Established Notion:
Mrs Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti was the first Nigerian woman to drive a Car
Challenger:
No, Mrs Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti wasn't the First Nigerian woman to drive a car.

By your logic, who should supply the proof of argument?

Established Notion:
Mrs Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti was the first Nigerian woman to drive a Car
Challenger:
No, Mrs Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti wasn't the First Nigerian woman to drive a car.

kingxsamz:


I'm beginning to question your sense of reasoning.
I'm not sure this conversation can continue since you want to shut your brain from logic.

The burden of proof is on the person making the claim.
You claim there's hell which burns forever.
And I'm asking you to prove it to me.
You haven't even made any logical statement to validate your assertion that hell exists.
But you jumped quickly to ask if I can prove its unexistence.
Is there any verified source of information that you can refer to that will prove the existence of hell?



When you make logical reference to try and back up your illogical claims, it's laughable and shallow.

Mrs Funmilayo Ransome Kuti existed. The fact that she was the first woman to drive a car in Nigeria is a widely accepted fact, and is validated by verified sources and also penned down in history .
Now can you show me images of hell?
Can you prove it?
Can you prove beyond reasonable doubt that it exists?
You'd have to prove it before anyone can attempt to disprove it.


Tbh, your response is really childish, and I'm not sure I can keep up with that.

kingxsamz:

Your Response

1. I asked, why should an all knowing god put something as dangerous as the tree of life in the garden when he knows it would hinder his plans for Adam and Eve?

2. Why did he create the tree of life and go ahead to test Adam and Eve with it when he knows the outcome?

3. Why did he place the tree of life in the garden knowing fully well that it will destroy his initial plans? And I used an example.

kingxsamz:


Please quote where I said that. 
It seems you lack the ability to comprehend stuffs. And you love to divert.
I'm not sure you're capable of keeping up with  conversations without diverting to an unrelated topic which no one mentioned in the first place. 

kingxsamz:

How is Satan beneficial? Please I want to know.  


Mr man...
The question I asked was, Why did God create Satan since he knew the outcome?
And you went on to ask me if I would create electricity or vehicles if I knew that it would kill people. And I told you that the advantages of vehicles and electricity outweighs their disadvantages. And then I asked you, what are the benefits or advantages of Satan since you're using the creation of Satan to compare with the creation of electricity and vehicles?
Now you're telling me something else, totally off topic.
Answer my initial question.

shadeyinka:


The highlight just showed how shallow your thought process is: just like, expecting pictures of Alexander the Great or Jesus Christ as a proof that he existed and boasting like an Orangutan about lack of pictures as a means of validation.

Answering the simple question at the end of the analogy would have saved you this embarrassment.


My take:
The one who challenges an established notion is the one to supply the proof!

Stator of Established Notion:
Mrs Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti was the first Nigerian woman to drive a Car
Challenger:
No, Mrs Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti wasn't the First Nigerian woman to drive a car.
The Question:
By your logic, who should supply the proof of argument?
Is it the Stator of the established Notion or the Challenger?

shadeyinka:

The bolded couldn't have been more wrong. But because it's the argument usually proposed by atheists, you swallow it hook, line and sinker without a little thought from your own end.

The one who challenges an established notion is the one to supply the proof!

Established Notion:
Mrs Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti was the first Nigerian woman to drive a Car
Challenger:
No, Mrs Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti wasn't the First Nigerian woman to drive a car.

By your logic, who should supply the proof of argument?

kimco:


What? Claim of hell is not an established notion...until proven factual it will remain a religious claim. No one has seen hell before so the burden of proof still falls on you to prove it.

Amazing the mental gymnastics u people go through to avoid questioning.

kimco:


What? Claim of hell is not an established notion...until proven factual it will remain a religious claim. No one has seen hell before so the burden of proof still falls on you to prove it.

Amazing the mental gymnastics u people go through to avoid questioning.