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Re: Jos Burning Now! by Mobinga: 6:44pm On Jan 30, 2011
angry
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Papachimo: 8:09pm On Jan 30, 2011
Where lies the true meaning of our NATION ANTHEM??
I want to ask if this is divided will this problem be solved?
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Righton: 8:20pm On Jan 30, 2011
calaway:

@ righton :  You are  one of the reasons the crisis in Jos still lingers lies beget negative manifestation. First of all I am disappointing that you walk the path of the of those that Kill babies and women in retaliation for 100 cows that where stolen. FYI this is the story the Police commissioner came up with to justify an attack on helpless villagers by Hausa killers escorted by soldiers of the Nigerian Army while the unsuspecting villagers slept. I believe that you are from the north and you more than any other blogger here must know that to rustle even 20cows is a herculean task for even 20 non fulani cattle thieves.  Unless the thieves brougth bicycles for each cow to quickly ride away with them, cows move very slowly and will not get far before the thieves are caught up with (100cows haha very likly).  Even the alleged Fulani owner of the said cows was not harmed so why must they go to kill women and children babies in place of cows? your group must really think very little of human life or is it christian life. Believe me you are not sounding civilized sympathizing with baby killers. Please correct you notion about the situation in Jos, There is no war raging there are only attacks by Hausa on Villages, Travellers, Students,Children,women,igbos,yorubas,tiv,idoma,calbar,igala, etc and Christians defending themselve against these attacks and of course advanceing in the course of defense sometimes. Tell me of any time there has been a breach of peace in Jos that did not originate from th Hausa baby killers quarters. Even savage warlords have rules of engagment, babies,women and strangers are never dragged into a war if ever there is one. Have you ever heard that Hausa women or Children where killed in any christain defence? Look call a spade a spade and let us take positive steps
towards peaceful living.
I have never been in favor of killing any human being but we all know that if left unchecks these Hausa killers will kill every soul until their authority is not challenged or their objective attained. You r not helping matters too. Ask them to stop the killing and give peace a chance and stop dragging the Hausa tribe in disrepute. You can fool some people sometimes but not all the time.

Jega has pedigree as far as you know or want to believe but ask you self what sort a person would forget the aspirations of 150mlln pips
thrusted upon his shoulders (dont talk about all the money given him) and selfisly say to the hearing of the world that if he is exposed to any pressure he will resign the sensitive office at this crucial time. (in otherwords I got Nigeria by the balls).Good pedigree by your standards.

My friend get real your not the only smart poeple in Nigeria.
You are mistaken. Who is claiming to be smart. You started an anlysis in your post but ruined it because of bias. When there are silent killings by both sides, what do you call it? When muslims dress like christians when going to christian-dominated areas and vice versa, what is that. When a hausa electoral officer being escorted by soldiers is attacked and killed, what is that? You think all these will happen in Lagos, Abakaliki, Makurdi now.

I posted links to show that hausas have been victims, it does not matter. We must keep insisting that it is just the hausas, the hausas only. During Ijaw Itsekiri war, were the aggressors hausas, in Umuleri/aguleri? ife/modakeke? Face reality, anybody attack reprisal attacks after fighting gets to a point. And this cycle continues. Blaming one party as you are benton doing will never solve the problem

So it is only the hausas that have been attacking since over 10 years ago? What about the people dumped in the well. Let us acknowledge facts of life and human behaviour. Do you know that I have observed that it is very, very difficult for a christian to admit that christians have done anything bad. Yet there are a lot of criminals in the SE. I used that example because christians dominate the region. Does it occur to you that they regard themselves as christians? Do you know that people like them may be in Jos? I am not exonerating anyone. To find peace, we need to re-examine our assumptions

In that situation, desire for vengeance is overwhelming. If I carry away a christian's taxi and he knows where it is, what do you think he will do? Do you think that while coming to my area in an environment of silent killings, he will not arm himself. Forget the fact that the person is a Nigerian, anyone will not enter a dangerous place without weapons and the person will use it if attacked. That is human nature. Is that what happened in Jos, I don't know. But I am sure that the hausas tried to recover their cows and they wnet on that mission armed.

You will notice that people carry guns all over Jos now - irrespective of tribe and religion.

Do you seriously think that you are more civilised than me. Do you think it does not take a re-orientation to kill children? Do you think it is everyone who has taken a life in error or deliberately that will be able to sleep soundly at night? Forget writing on the internet and cheering one side, real lives are bring lost. Dreams are being truncated, hopes are bing dashed, widows are being made, sorrow continue to deepen, warm faces are being replaced with bitter and spiteful, mien. These are realities in a lot of homes. Has it occurred to you that hausa victims also include babies and women? Do you think my response justifies killing women and children. My point is this - if you cry about women and children of one group, you need to do that for the other. Otherwise you act in accordance to the southerner's views held  that hausas are no better than their cows. From this position, the hausa will not also see you as human beings. Again, my point is that fighting to death never solves any problem. It just fuels the next round

You believe that hausas are always the aggressors. Is that confirmed? During the civil war, we assumed that everybody in the North was the aggressor. Now we have identified the sole aggressor as the Hausa. Consistency please

You are talking as if I live in Jos and I can call anybody to order. When you say if left unchecked these killings will allow the hausas kill every soul. Now  how do you reconcile these two positions. Every time you take action to check the other party or teach him not to mess with you, he has a fresh reason to attack

Look at this
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2011/01/27/nigeria-new-wave-violence-leaves-200-dead
Re: Jos Burning Now! by akanbiaa(m): 8:26pm On Jan 30, 2011
god please save the innocent people of jos. let the evil in jos be overcomed.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by hectorswag(m): 8:35pm On Jan 30, 2011
you are very funny man, just listen to yourself grin
calaway:

@ righton : You are  one of the reasons the crisis in Jos still lingers lies beget negative manifestation. First of all I am disappointing that you walk the path of the of those that Kill babies and women in retaliation for 100 cows that where stolen. FYI this is the story the Police commissioner came up with to justify an attack on helpless villagers by Hausa killers escorted by soldiers of the Nigerian Army while the unsuspecting villagers slept. I believe that you are from the north and you more than any other blogger here must know that to rustle even 20cows is a herculean task for even 20 non fulani cattle thieves.  Unless the thieves brougth bicycles for each cow to quickly ride away with them, cows move very slowly and will not get far before the thieves are caught up with (100cows haha very likly).  Even the alleged Fulani owner of the said cows was not harmed so why must they go to kill women and children babies in place of cows? your group must really think very little of human life or is it christian life. Believe me you are not sounding civilized sympathizing with baby killers. Please correct you notion about the situation in Jos, There is no war raging there are only attacks by Hausa on Villages, Travellers, Students,Children,women,igbos,yorubas,tiv,idoma,calbar,igala, etc and Christians defending themselve against these attacks and of course advanceing in the course of defense sometimes. Tell me of any time there has been a breach of peace in Jos that did not originate from th Hausa baby killers quarters. Even savage warlords have rules of engagment, babies,women and strangers are never dragged into a war if ever there is one. Have you ever heard that Hausa women or Children where killed in any christain defence? Look call a spade a spade and let us take positive steps
towards peaceful living.
I have never been in favor of killing any human being but we all know that if left unchecks these Hausa killers will kill every soul until their authority is not challenged or their objective attained. You r not helping matters too. Ask them to stop the killing and give peace a chance and stop dragging the Hausa tribe in disrepute. You can fool some people sometimes but not all the time.

Jega has pedigree as far as you know or want to believe but ask you self what sort a person would forget the aspirations of 150mlln pips
thrusted upon his shoulders (dont talk about all the money given him) and selfisly say to the hearing of the world that if he is exposed to any pressure he will resign the sensitive office at this crucial time. (in otherwords I got Nigeria by the balls).Good pedigree by your standards.

My friend get real your not the only smart poeple in Nigeria.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 8:37pm On Jan 30, 2011
@Righton:

You are losing sight of my point. Yes hausa people were killed and dumped in wells. But who drew the first blood? Who kills women and babies? who is more cruel? You dont expect christains in Jos to just sit back and watch hausa killed them do you?  You  see the Christians reacted to the aggressors.  You act as if you donot know your people. Hausa do not need a reason to unleash death to any soul. Others fight for land wealth money territory etc. But an hausa man can kill an Igbo man in kano cos a derogatory cartoon of Mohammed (SAW)was made in Denmark.  Even as we blog now HAUSA PEOPLE PLANTED A HUGE BOMB IN A CHURCH IN BAUCHI CITY. Truly you r not in a position to call any hausa man to order but you can spread the message in you mosque to you friend and i bet you the rippling effect will take hold and you will see a change.

Jos as it is now with all the tension is a total manifestation of Hausa desire.

People know the hausa character now. Just accpt it and create the change needed. REBRAND HAUSA.

All news out of Jos and indeed Nigeria to the internet are all lies especially SR and AP these news source are mongers of falsehood.
Anyway I dont expect a leopard to change his spots even and hausa soldier sent to enforce peace with the nations guns turn the barrels on babies.

HAUSA TRIES TO BOMB XTAIN CHURCH IN BAUCHI CITY. whos cow was stolen here?
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 8:39pm On Jan 30, 2011
@ hectorswag

HAUSA PLANTS BOMB IN HOUSE OF GOD IN BAUCHI STATE TODAY!!!!!

Who is funny. You r ignorant.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by EzeUche2(m): 8:40pm On Jan 30, 2011
calaway:

@ hectorswag

HAUSA PLANTS BOMB IN HOUSE OF GOD IN BAUCHI STATE TODAY!!!!!

Who is funny. You r ignorant.



What? shocked shocked shocked

Source please.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 8:52pm On Jan 30, 2011
@EzeUche
Cofirmd story it was on AIT news even and soon it will be all over wait for it.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by udezue(m): 8:55pm On Jan 30, 2011
Hausa ppl are no better than wild dogs and should be kept away.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by EzeUche2(m): 8:57pm On Jan 30, 2011
calaway:

@EzeUche
Cofirmd story it was on AIT news even and soon it will be all over wait for it.


This is crazy! And watch no one will be held accountable for this act.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by hectorswag(m): 8:59pm On Jan 30, 2011
calaway:

@ hectorswag

HAUSA PLANTS BOMB IN HOUSE OF GOD IN BAUCHI STATE TODAY!!!!!

Who is funny. You r ignorant.


look at this ODOYAN!! grin im laffin @ ur use of words, mumu check the words i emboldened n see for ur self lol
Re: Jos Burning Now! by udezue(m): 9:00pm On Jan 30, 2011
@Ezeuche its time for Ogbunigwe to be resurrected.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by EzeUche2(m): 9:02pm On Jan 30, 2011
udezue:

@Ezeuche its time for Ogbunigwe to be resurrected.

Not that dreaded weapon! shocked shocked shocked Are the Igbo scientist who created that weapon still around? And will they be willing to teach a younger generation? I have heard horrible things about that weapon. And how dangerous it was to use even for the people who worked with it.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 9:02pm On Jan 30, 2011
You are look at my grammar instead of looking and the message. Babies and people r dying & you r concerned about my grammar you r aTypical Hausa man.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by hectorswag(m): 9:06pm On Jan 30, 2011
cry nw i gotta believe its delibrate grin

ok so jos is burning, what have you done so far? angry mtcheeww!!
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 9:10pm On Jan 30, 2011
@hectorswag: you made me loss my cool but your attitude is not helping matters. Many Hausa people are good, this i know for many of them saved alot of Christians (Hid)  during the bloodletting activities of the typical wicked Hausa.

the only smart poeple in Nigeria: means as a group of people they r not the only smart one other groups r smart too. I hope u see my lean. Swaggarless like u.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 9:12pm On Jan 30, 2011
loose u bast,
Re: Jos Burning Now! by bashdecash(m): 9:13pm On Jan 30, 2011
guys,  can not relent in calling attentions. Hausas cannot plant a bomb in a church, THEY have vowed to disintegrate dis country by 2014 or so and dt is wty dey are doing.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by hectorswag(m): 9:16pm On Jan 30, 2011
ki ni ele yin so?  undecided *more hisses to ur elbows*  kiss

by the way, im nt hausa, only happen to live amongst them.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Righton: 9:21pm On Jan 30, 2011
calaway:

@Righton:
You are losing sight of my point. Yes hausa people were killed and dumped in wells. But who drew the first blood? Who kills women and babies? who is more cruel? You dont expect christains in Jos to just sit back and watch hausa killed them do you?  You  see the Christians reacted to the aggressors.  You act as if you donot know your people. Hausa do not need a reason to unleash death to any soul. Others fight for land wealth money territory etc. But an hausa man can kill an Igbo man in kano cos a derogatory cartoon of Mohammed (SAW)was made in Denmark.  Even as we blog now HAUSA PEOPLE PLANTED A HUGE BOMB IN A CHURCH IN BAUCHI CITY. Truly you r not in a position to call any hausa man to order but you can spread the message in you mosque to you friend and i bet you the rippling effect will take hold and you will see a change.

Jos as it is now with all the tension is a total manifestation of Hausa desire.

People know the hausa character now. Just accpt it and create the change needed. REBRAND HAUSA.

All news out of Jos and indeed Nigeria to the internet are all lies especially SR and AP these news source are mongers of falsehood.
Anyway I dont expect a leopard to change his spots even and hausa soldier sent to enforce peace with the nations guns turn the barrels on babies.

HAUSA TRIES TO BOMB XTAIN CHURCH IN BAUCHI CITY. whos cow was stolen here?
You are rasing a lot issues and contradicting yourself
If the hausa leopard cannot change its skin, what is the essence of saying I should go and appeal in the mosque
If you continue to insist that christians cannot sit back, then do you think hausas will listen to any appeal for truce?
So why are you saying my people anyway?
Why do you think it is only the issue of cows that will make people fight
So you think christians are not killing women and babies - the wife of that STF commander is a woman
Look at the link that I posted and show me if christians have been the victims ALL the time
Now what media should I use since you have discredited AP and SR. Please do not quote Nigerian press - they kept very quiet when Muslims were dumped in wells last year but made sure they gave full coverage to the reprisals in march

As for drawing the first blood - read this story.

I Actually read it first in Next when the people were still surrounded and they sent a text message to anybody who could help them get a message across
I also saw the email by the owners of zamani Farms at Kuru jenta

http://carmenmccain./2010/01/23/massacre-at-kuru-jentakuru-karama/
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5514478-146/jonathan_orders_troops_to_jos_religious.csp
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 9:26pm On Jan 30, 2011
@hectorswag,

Really they say facial features can be misleading. From you profile picture; your Prominent Breathing apparatus (all over the place cant see u face)and extended ears look very abokish. Ok now u got me sounding like you. stupid child!!!
Re: Jos Burning Now! by lakode(m): 9:35pm On Jan 30, 2011
Hmm few days back on niaraland I saw a thread  "five mosque burnt in Jos " , It was funny that I didn't see any one pointing finger at Religion , funny enough many pple on that thread blame the Government, But when its churches then we point fingers at religion .

For me it is always funny , these Religions are not even ours ,we take any Little thing to Discriminate in Nigeria , I have never seen a thread like Sango and Osun worshipers fighting each other, and going by some comment on this thread it amazes me that some Nigerians hate others basically cos of Religion(we are all Nigerians ,religion comes second), I will give my family as an example my dad is a practicing  Muslim (Ahlaji) , and my mum a devoted Christian I guess this puts me in a more sensible position , STOP BLAMING THE KILLINGS IN JOS ON RELIGION IT IS PURELY POLITICAL , The greater mix of religion(based on proportion) is in the southwest and we coexist and live together( so  south south and northerners stop this stupidity and don't blame religion)
Re: Jos Burning Now! by owobokiri(m): 9:35pm On Jan 30, 2011
The country is boiling and my people are praying for "divine intervention". Save your lives, they wont, if others want to do so, they say; lets go to pray. This is the same way some foreigners poisoned both Abacha and Abiola to keep Nigeria down so they loot the country through their multi nationals and some Nigerians refered to the elimination of the former as a "divine intervention" without asking themselves why the "divine intervener" went ahead to eliminated the "victim" Abiola, Funny things happen in that country, Keep praying for divine intervention while these scarry and strange mutants keep eliminating your wives and children. Divine intervention ko, swine invasion ni?
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 9:39pm On Jan 30, 2011
@righton,

You come across as a gentle man. Fact is the STF commander Gen Omar Hassan married a christian woman.(He is a muslem but his wife was christian this is the fact) Please not that Even Hausa/Fulani chritains who live in Jos are NEVER put in harms way by fellow christian during and fight.
they are considered as brothers. E.G Isa Elbuba of EBOMI ministries in Jos talk less of a woman. Please look for her murderers elsewhere.
May her Gentle soul rest in Peace. An Christain that kills a baby will himself be killed by other Christains.
OK let us do it like this Show me any article on the net from thos foreign site that confirmd the arrest of Nigerian security agent who attacked those villages and I will accept the some foreign news site are credible!!!
I said a leopard cant chnge its spot cos you donot see the evil in killing many babies,women and strangers.
This posture makes any look sympathetic to the evil doers. But I know you can help put thing right. everyone can. Lets just call white; white and black; black
Re: Jos Burning Now! by owobokiri(m): 9:45pm On Jan 30, 2011
@lakode
Bros, you are a bit wrong. I dont know whether you have lived in the north. I lived there. For years. Politics maybe the main issue that started this mayhem in Jos, but religion is also a big issue behind it. Dont use Yoruba muslims to judge, they are way ahead of their northern brothers. In the "core north" , southern muslims are looked down as being inferior. You can go and check. The fact is that northern musllims have been brain-washed into thinking they are the best muslims in town and that it is evil for a christian to rule them. That is why they always strive to dominate any state where they are co-habitating with christians. If you allow them to treat you as slaves- (like in Kaduna)- then the 'butchering' will be once in 3 or 5 years. If you chalenge this thinking-(as  the people of jos are doing)- the 'butchering' will be a weekly or monthly event till you give up. I agree it has political angle but at this point, ethnic and religious determination to dominate has taken the fore front. The core-north has a serious problem to deal with , otherwise , they will be alone in no distant time.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by elnaf(m): 9:47pm On Jan 30, 2011
To be frank their is only one solution to end Jos crises We need only 2 dayz 4 the government to withdraw all forms of security
Police Soldiers etc pls only 48 hrs thats wot we need if I may ask do this incident happen in kaduna after the first crisis? of course no
Let me tell u something u Dnt know I am swearing with Allah Almighty the crisis of jos will soon be out of hand by securities if the Federal
and state government wen i the issue is not  taken serious ,tell me what are the soldiers proud of is it not GUNS 4 protecting themselves
so we the youths  are in possession of weapons  better  than theirs
So Jos crisis this is just the beginning I was @ Faringada,Sabonlayi Rusau & student village were the incident happen yesterday I Just tank Allah
4 passing through witout  bin killed coz 2 b frank am not afraid of death
Also 4 university of jos student YOU ARE ALL DEAD you came 4 studies why are you entering wot does not concern You
Angwan Rogo youth will hunting You just like a cat hunts 4 a rat so beware along bauchi road pack,Sukuwa Bauchi junction
you come 4 studies just do wot you came 4 & go back to you state allow us to face our religious & ethnic problems so please if u have a son daughter
frend relative or what so ever advice them 4 transfer bcoz WALLAHI their lives are as take
Mind u all the PPl causing al this mayhem ,Madness, Chaos's are Politician who live com4table in their home while their children school in abroad
They hav embezzled our money enriched themselves while we are killing our selves in the name of religion and ethnicity
PLEASE LETS SAY NO BY FIGHTING THEM BACK FIRST INSTEAD OFF KILLING OURSELVES
TELL ME WHY WILL PEACE RAIN WHEN WE AV JOBLESS GRADUATE,A POOR MANS CHILD WILL NEVA GET A JOB COZ HE IS NO ONE
WHILE THEIR CHILDREN LIVE A LUXURY LIFE DRIVING BIG CARS TELL ME IF AN IGNORANT CAN SET A BOMB,
SO PLEASE DONT TELL ME ANYTHING ABOUT JOS CRISES HOW I WISH NIGERIA WILL JOIN THE TUNISIANS AND EGYPTIANS 4 A REVOLUTION
 
 
Re: Jos Burning Now! by udezue(m): 9:51pm On Jan 30, 2011
@EzeUche, don't you think they had a manual with instructions? Those scientist are still alive. My mom lost a friend back then. He was a scientist making the bomb. Yes its dangerous but making any kind of bomb is dangerous. If I dey for Naija I will be looking for a way to make it and send these sons of satan to their maker. They are already bombing Xtians places so u might as well reply them with yours.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Dave6: 10:24pm On Jan 30, 2011
'Wild Wild West' by M.I.

Yeah, I just wanna cry 
I just wanna know why my people  struggling, they unified 
Wanna blame somebody, middle  finger in the sky 
Let them linger while the anger  you are feeling vaporize  I just wanna pick a gun and start  to run   
Where the evil ones honored upon  the cranium 
Put the gun against their temple 
Squeeze the bullets into their  mental 
Curses on my dental, so vengeful   
But with my pencil I stencil the  pain     
Try my best to show the world events  full of shame
J. Town is peace but they try to  cancel the name 
But even when the fire burns,  the stain still remains  
When I heard I was like “Oh God,  not her again” 
But in faith we remain, hoping  for the day break 
Do whatever that it may take  I heard somebody say   

Better get your guns  Better get your vests 
Cause in J. Town it’s the wild  wild west 
Down here everyone curse, no  one bless 
Nobody care, nobody know tears 
So know this  Until you feel the gun blast 
Nobody gon’ sleep and nobody  gon’ rest 
Down here everyone curse, no  one bless 
Cause in J. Town it’s the wild  wild west

Wishful is, my memories of  peaceful bliss 
Now the streets full of all these  sickfulness 
Evil is, not around where all  of my people lives  Will the evil quit? 
J. Town, I miss how you were 
Tell me, how did this occur?   
Now memories of peace are a blur 
You were so pretty I swore 
Driving through the city thinking  this is not her 
She seems so strange  When did she change?   
Blood on her streets, smoke in  the sky 
Can’t feel her heart beat, blow  hope in her eye. 
Muffins, coffins, bastards,  caskets, mass burials         How we gonna move past these? 
The sun is about to set,
I’m getting  ready for a war  I feel it isn’t done yet

M.I. (J-Town Artist)
Re: Jos Burning Now! by ShangoThor(m): 10:36pm On Jan 30, 2011
[size=14pt]"The Only Thing Necessary For The Triumph Of Evil Is For Good Men To Do Nothing" - Edmund Burke[/size]

The point now is to let our Northern countrymen to know is that the time is up. Enough is enough. The game is over!

The country will split, you have no vision or strategy for our collective existence all you desire is a monopoly
on power and subjugating others. It's time to split amicably, please lobby your elders, enough is enough

[size=14pt]The Northern States that adopted Sharia would be better served to combine forces and form a new Nation State,"you can't have your cake and eat it too".[/size]
Re: Jos Burning Now! by ShangoThor(m): 10:44pm On Jan 30, 2011
Nigeria is meant to be a pluralistic society!

The status quo can only be maintained by "divide and rule" or "divide and conquer", and this is why all over Southern Nigeria,
we have to join forces to end this arrangement.


[size=14pt]The Northern States that adopted Sharia would be better served to combine forces and form a new Nation State,"you can't have your cake and eat it too".


I doubt that there would any main objections to achieveing this goal by the other regions in Nigeria.[/size]
Re: Jos Burning Now! by uyiscott: 11:25pm On Jan 30, 2011
sad angry what is wrong with those crazy muslin fools

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