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Re: Jos Burning Now! by JosBoy4Lif(m): 11:30pm On Jan 30, 2011
@(Kafanchan/EzeUche)

I don't understand how I can be berated for wanting to proffer a bloodless solution to the endemic problems facing Plateau.
There are roughly 1 Million muslims in plateau so due to political and religious differences we should have crisis by your definitions?

Either you like it or not Jang is responsible for the stability of this state. If it is in constant crisis their is a problem.
During Dariye's governorship there was civil unrest when he traveled out of country ONCE. In order to appease the so called "murderers", that Jang is describing these people, Dariye appointed a Hausa/fulani Deputey Chairman of Jos North during his tenure.

Jang the so called protector of Plateau appointed his own Beromite as Chairman. A slap on the true indigines of Jos North the Jarawa.
Iron type politics is draconian and not befitting of a true democratic republic. Nigeria will be a true democracy when an Igbo man is Kano Governor and Hausa is governor of Lagos. Until then we will continue to digress. \

At this point my only request is for peace in Plateau to be restored. How many more lives do we need to needlessly sacrifice in attempt to uphold our stupid ethnocentric beliefs? The Hausa-Fulani will never rule Plateau and they would be stupid to believe they could. Plateau is the home of Military Juggernaut like Yakubu Gowon.

Jos North was created to the detriment of the indigenous people of Plateau. Long before that Hausa/Fulani have been using Plateau as there state of origin for allocation of federal jobs for places like ANPP CBN etc. BUT WTF? Are we no supposed to kill each other over this? EzeUche and his kinsman would like such a thing to happen so that they can see told you so. What a rudimentary existence that their ilk embody! Let us find a solution to co-existence. There was peace in Plateau let us restore, I am not asking for a new page in the book, rather lets go back a couple chapters.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by ShangoThor(m): 11:45pm On Jan 30, 2011
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If you expect people to forget about their babies being butchered then you know nothing about human nature
This situation is only going to get worse.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by PhysicsMHD(m): 11:53pm On Jan 30, 2011
ROFL @ "military juggernaut like Yakubu Gowon"


LMAO.




@ JosBoy4Life, get weapons and protect yourself if you're down there. All this dreamer talk and idealism isn't going to save you from a brainless bloodthirsty jihadist goon.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by ebor(m): 12:31am On Jan 31, 2011
Oppose Jonathan, divide Nigeria–Lamido
Sunday, 30 January 2011 00:38 Godwin Isenyo
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JIGAWA State Governor, Alhaji Sule Lamido spat fire on Northerners who are opposed to the continuation of President Goodluck Jonathan in office on May 29, this year.


If Northern opposition to the President continues, the country should simply be broken up, he declared, pulling no punches at key members of the North who have continued to raise anti-Jonathan sentiments.


Lamido noted that opposition to Jonathan is subsisting although the President has secured the nod of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) to fly its banner in the election.


The Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF) last week declared the North’s opposition to Jonthan despite winning the PDP ticket at the party’s last national convetion in Abuja.


Lamido, who spoke on the Hausa service of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) monitored in Kaduna said that no governor in the North was coerced to vote for the president at the last special convention of the party where he emerged as the party standard bearer for the election, contrary to speculations.




Lamido also argued that the issue of zoning was laid to rest by the party during the special convention of the party on January 13. He added that the overwhelming votes cast for the president at that convention superseded even the constitution of the party.


The Governor said that if Northern Muslims could insist that President Jonathan, a Southern Christian, should not be President, then, there is a need to divide Nigeria and let each zone determine its direction.


He argued further that those championing a Northern presidency are uncivilised, adding that such sentiment would only lead to the destruction of the north itself.
His words: “The point is they are using such sentiments to destroy the North. What is politics all about? Following your opinion. But for someone to say one must abide by his opinion no matter how, is wrong. People should be allowed to do what they want. If that is the case, we should divide the country so that we could have the section for Christians and that of the Muslims,” he said.


Lamido continued: “We should know that this issue of zoning, out of about 60 political parties, this zoning issue is for the PDP alone. It does not bother those in the ANPP, CPC or ANC. But because of the circumstance we found ourselves, it has become a general issue. Now they are denouncing the PDP but the fact is that they cannot change anything.


“ Look at what happened in Kano during the ANPP, there was this boy called Ibrahim Little. For many years he was the only major figure in the ANPP but in the end they forcefully rejected him. Look at how Abacha’s son joined a party within two months and seized everything. So those people, what they are doing, they feel is what everybody is doing.


“Jonathan is not the governor of Abia, he is not the governor of Borno or Kastina. Therefore such noise….It is wrong for someone to be listening to the sermons of a gossiper…for someone from another party to come and be saying all sorts of things against the PDP, like the party is against Islam, Sule does not like Muslims, he has gone astray by following non believers, okay let’s see.”


Explaining why some states did not wholly vote for Jonathan, Lamido said: “Whoever did what he did, did that based on his opinion and wishes. Some are afraid, others are frightened. But for us, we have been in it for over 30 years. We were frightened, we were made to be afraid, they said we don’t like Islam, that we are anti-North…but those who judge somebody’s faith, look at them.


“ Any person who says his fellow man does not like Islam, look at him and watch his relationship with others. They are ignorant by saying someone has deviated from his true religion. We are still in the North and we are seeing them, what is it that they have not said? Forget about such people. The electorate should go and vote for its choice, it’s an election and people know the right. They have seen those who ruled before, how was it, what level are the states in now? What becomes of the North and how strong is the Northerners’ strength?


On demonstrations in some states against the PDP like in Kaduna where the PDP flag was burnt, he said: “Any member of the PDP, wherever he might be, is known. The party has followers everywhere, in the local governments and everywhere. Those perpetuating such crisis, not all are in PDP. But the point is that there are some lazy politicians who feel they have lost. We know their antecedents, they cannot be trusted. They are Muslims but they don’t know what the religion demands.


“ All these allegations that the North has been marginalized, they don’t know about it. They are the ones causing such problem and we have small children that are unemployed. Poverty is unlimited here. These burnings, humiliations, and abuses, would that wipe out the poverty in the North? They should choose to live in peace so that we work for their development.


“All the people talking are those in CPC and ANPP, and they were never in PDP before. There was ANPP administration in Jigawa, all those in CPC or ANPP in the state, even before he was in ANPP and not in PDP.”


Lamido also said those who might defect from the party were not true members of the PDP. “I heard what Ribadu, Buhari and Shekarau were saying, that they would provide good leadership devoid of ethnic or religious sentiment…Those who failed election in the PDP and are now alleging foul play, perhaps the other time they won nobody heard them say anything. To them, PDP was the best at that time.


“It is wrong to politicize religion because of Jonathan…a Muslim does not lie, he does not gossip or mislead, or blackmail people.”

http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=74210:oppose-jonathan-divide-nigerialamido&catid=43:news&Itemid=799

The above interview by Gov. Sule Lamido of Jigawa state(very erudite n blunt man) is very instructive for those who are supporting the activities of these miscreants terrorising innocent Christians in Jos n oda parts of the North;the msg is division is looming ominously n the Hausa-Fulani north will certainly b d losers.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by udezue(m): 12:42am On Jan 31, 2011
Kaiii JosBoy is a typical middlebeltmoron. No wonder these cattle herders sent ur dumb behinds to war during Biafra to get killed off like nama just so u can put them in control @ ur own detriment. U are a big dunce. Its either u remain as slaves and stop resisting Hausa masters or u grab ur balls and fight back. Where are ur men when these ppl swoop in on ur people to murder ur kids? I remember stories about how Igbo youths surrounded a Primary schools and dared the Hausa come an inch closer and the Hausa killers fled. Guy stop acting like a retard and recognize that u are dealing with animals unless u are an animal urself. Jang is simply weak. Put me in his position kaiii Hausa for done dey extinct in Plateau state.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Abagworo(m): 12:54am On Jan 31, 2011
udezue:

Kaiii JosBoy is a typical middlebeltmoron. No wonder these cattle herders sent your dumb behinds to war during Biafra to get killed off like nama just so u can put them in control @ your own detriment. U are a big dunce. Its either u remain as slaves and stop resisting Hausa masters or u grab your balls and fight back. Where are your men when these ppl swoop in on your people to murder your kids? I remember stories about how Igbo youths surrounded a Primary schools and dared the Hausa come an inch closer and the Hausa killers fled. Guy stop acting like a not-so-smart person and recognize that u are dealing with animals unless u are an animal urself. Jang is simply weak. Put me in his position kaiii Hausa for done dey extinct in Plateau state.

Udezue why do you support violence?If Jang declares war against Hausa don't you think that the Beroms will be wiped off in a few weeks.Hausas are up to 50 million in more than 8 countries while the Beroms are not up to a Local Government.The best approach remains removal of Jang and canceling the Jos North election.If Jang had canceled the election in 2008,Jos would not have degenerated to this level.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by jmaine: 1:04am On Jan 31, 2011
Abagworo:

Udezue why do you support violence?If Jang declares war against Hausa don't you think that the Beroms will be wiped off in a few weeks.[b]Hausas are up to 50 million in more than 8 countries [/b]while the Beroms are not up to a Local Government.The best approach remains removal of Jang and canceling the Jos North election.If Jang had canceled the election in 2008,Jos would not have degenerated to this level.

The emboldened part got me confused please expand on it
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Abagworo(m): 1:22am On Jan 31, 2011
jmaine:

The emboldened part got me confused please expand on it

It might even be more.

Cameroun,Gambia,Senegal,Niger,Mali,Burkinafaso,Guinea,Benin,Ghana,Chad,Sudan.

Remember it is Hausa + Fulani.

Just open this link
http://www.prayway.com/unreached/clusters/fulani.html
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Rhino5dm: 1:56am On Jan 31, 2011
After going through most post on this thread, i can easily see hypocracy flying all over the place and majority of posters dont even have a clue of what is ground. Just keep reading from pages of internet and making fool out of themselves.

To the igbos, this will a dream come true.*the much hated yakubu Gowon will be paid in his own coin*.But, unfortunately a typical Hausa man will never abondoned his property and run like a co.ward. Just check out thier traits

A typical south south will most likely want to devide the country because he own the wealth.(how he enjoys his wealth if he is left alone still baffle's me for fact that small clan is called a NATION due highly unviolent dis-unity undecided )

The yorubas hmm! I regard them as "safety officers" always scrammbling for the safety and usully operate from backgound allowing others to thier dirty work will never be of all any help to the indigines of jos.

But wait minute, what will you do to help these people you are claiming to care for much after the country is devided and they are been exterminated on daily basis??  will you accept them as refuges into your respective comminuty, volunteer your selve to protect them  or called them settlers in your respective places?? undecided undecided All this holier than thou will not slove the chain reactions on ground. let all parties shealth thier sword and look far lasting solution. Period! cheesy  cheesy
Re: Jos Burning Now! by udezue(m): 1:57am On Jan 31, 2011
What u are advocating is pure cowardice and perpetual slavery. So Jang should hand them Jos North, their own native land just because they are bigger in population. The only reason why the Berom and middlebelt ppl are suffering now is because they stopped resisting the Hausa Fulani and made so many blunders like giving them free land to live in. The US and other great nations out there didn't get where they are by licking the boots of their aggressors but by fighting back. Jang has no other choice but to declare Hausa ppl persona non-grata in his state just like Southern Kaduna ppl have done. What middlebelt minorities from Benue to Southern Kaduna need is unity to tackle Hausa menace not concessions that will further drive them to extinction in their own land.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Rhino5dm: 2:15am On Jan 31, 2011
^^^Is it easy for Amaechi to declaer the Ibos persona non grata in Rivers State(knowing fully well they control more than seventy percent wealth in Portharcourt)?? just asking. . . I have seen how they are and at the end its gonna be no victor, no vanquish only whantom loss of lives and properties.

The Hausas are the settler and some sort controls major economic activities with backing of previous military head of states(fact!), is very good that the indegine have waking up(a little late) and realize the needs be at the helm of economic affairs. But i think change should be strategic, gradual and peaceful or are you in support of what hitler did to Jews in Germany??.

The jews were simply very brillient and hard working and shouldnt be any reason for hatred. Those who control your wealth controls you. The multinational companies in Nigeria can simply attest to that.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by owobokiri(m): 4:51am On Jan 31, 2011
It might even be more.

Cameroun,Gambia,Senegal,Niger,Mali,Burkinafaso,Guinea,Benin,Ghana,Chad,Sudan.

Remember it is Hausa + Fulani.

Just open this link
http://www.prayway.com/unreached/clusters/fulani.html

Lets get some facts straight:

1) There are fewer Hausas in Nigeria. While a combination of the two groups (fulani and hausa) might give you the largest ethnic grouping in West Africa, we always tend to inflate their numerical strength to their advantage. Moreover, being large doesn't automatically translate to being dominant if others are ready to push back. I will get to this point later.

2) The Yorubas in Benin, Togo and Cuba or the Igbos in Equatorial Guinea and Gabon don't come fighting for their respective groups in Nigeria when there is a crises between these groups and their neighbors. If every group across Africa should band together to fight whenever we have our usual local squabbles, I can bet that the Hausas and their fulani cousins will find life more difficult than they envisage.

3) If the Hausas in those areas can afford to join hands to fight against the Beroms, then other minorities in the middle belt can decide to join the Beroms and I know no Hausa of fulani man wants to face a Tiv man. Those ones seldom brook their nonsense. Most times those of us in the south tend to classify everything up north as Hausa fulani. The opposite is the case. An Igede man in present day Benue state will fight you if you define him as belonging to any of the two groups. In fact folks from there even hate to be called northerners. This present Jos crises with all the fulani careless war rethorics will only swell that rank.

4) As Nigerias treasury which has always been their cash cow slips slowly out of their hands, it will slowly go back to either Fulani or Hausa. I know that religious wars and a high level of ethnic cohesion has almost tied the two groups together but I am not totally sure if it is right to always define them as being totally one, ,forever. It is not without reason.  For instance the average fulani can speak Hausa fluently but the typical haughty Hausa man may never understand a word of fulani. . Also remember that Hausa is the lingua-franca from Lokoja upwards. So even the Beroms and Angas etc speak Hausa fluently. While this helps to push the Hausa fulani agenda forward, it doesn't make a man a woman or vice versa.

5) Back to the first point. Numbers can be deceiving ma friend. You doubt me? Ask the Congolese (Zaireans). They have the most economically endowed country in Africa. They have a very big land mass and when compared to a tiny Rwanda their population and history as a cohesive unit after the katanga uprising can be seen as being far ahead of the Rwandes. But who is lording it over the other down their in the great lakes region now? It is the Rwandes  who imposed a head of sate in Kinshasa, then killed him when he stopped acting to their dictates. The present president of Congo is not finding life easy with them, for the simple reason that at this moment, the guys from Rwanda are better organized. Not saying that the fulanis are not well organized, in fact sophisticated traditional organization has been their best weapon for years, but who knows how things will work out these days?

BOTTOMLINE:

Some fights need to be fought. When you have a group of people like the Huasa/fulani with their dangerous ambitions to dominate you even in your own backyard, you must be willing to find a way to push back. Otherwise , you will wake up someday a tenant in your home. It is not like anybody is against the peaceful resolution of the Jos conflict or the co-habitation of this groups, but knowing our history with the Hausa/fulani in Nigeria, is anybody here willing to stick out his neck to say that if the price of peace is to allow the fulani run the politics of Plateau, peace will reign? My answer to that is no. They will start telling you where to live (sabon gari), where to urinate (or you go to alkali courts) and how your women must dress and stuff like that. Are the fulani/Hausas indigenous to Abuja? Where we not here when they said that the Miss World Pageant will not hold even in Calabar? These people just want to dictate your destiny and the share the same ideology with their Arab brethren. If you don't want to be treated as a slave in your home, you just have to push back, so Governor Jang in my view is doing the right thing. Let them keep their barbaric culture in the desert.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by udezue(m): 5:44am On Jan 31, 2011
owobokiri:

Lets get some facts straight:

1) There are fewer Hausas in Nigeria. While a combination of the two groups (fulani and hausa) might give you the largest ethnic grouping in West Africa, we always tend to inflate their numerical strength to their advantage. Moreover, being large doesn't automatically translate to being dominant if others are ready to push back. I will get to this point later.

2) The Yorubas in Benin, Togo and Cuba or the Igbos in Equatorial Guinea and Gabon don't come fighting for their respective groups in Nigeria when there is a crises between these groups and their neighbors. If every group across Africa should band together to fight whenever we have our usual local squabbles, I can bet that the Hausas and their fulani cousins will find life more difficult than they envisage.

3) If the Hausas in those areas can afford to join hands to fight against the Beroms, then other minorities in the middle belt can decide to join the Beroms and I know no Hausa of fulani man wants to face a Tiv man. Those ones seldom brook their nonsense. Most times those of us in the south tend to classify everything up north as Hausa fulani. The opposite is the case. An Igede man in present day Benue state will fight you if you define him as belonging to any of the two groups. In fact folks from there even hate to be called northerners. This present Jos crises with all the fulani careless war rethorics will only swell that rank.

4) As Nigerias treasury which has always been their cash cow slips slowly out of their hands, it will slowly go back to either Fulani or Hausa. I know that religious wars and a high level of ethnic cohesion has almost tied the two groups together but I am not totally sure if it is right to always define them as being totally one, ,forever. It is not without reason.  For instance the average fulani can speak Hausa fluently but the typical haughty Hausa man may never understand a word of fulani. . Also remember that Hausa is the lingua-franca from Lokoja upwards. So even the Beroms and Angas etc speak Hausa fluently. While this helps to push the Hausa fulani agenda forward, it doesn't make a man a woman or vice versa.

5) Back to the first point. Numbers can be deceiving ma friend. You doubt me? Ask the Congolese (Zaireans). They have the most economically endowed country in Africa. They have a very big land mass and when compared to a tiny Rwanda their population and history as a cohesive unit after the katanga uprising can be seen as being far ahead of the Rwandes. But who is lording it over the other down their in the great lakes region now? It is the Rwandes  who imposed a head of sate in Kinshasa, then killed him when he stopped acting to their dictates. The present president of Congo is not finding life easy with them, for the simple reason that at this moment, the guys from Rwanda are better organized. Not saying that the fulanis are not well organized, in fact sophisticated traditional organization has been their best weapon for years, but who knows how things will work out these days?

BOTTOMLINE:

Some fights need to be fought. When you have a group of people like the Huasa/fulani with their dangerous ambitions to dominate you even in your own backyard, you must be willing to find a way to push back. Otherwise , you will wake up someday a tenant in your home. It is not like anybody is against the peaceful resolution of the Jos conflict or the co-habitation of this groups, but knowing our history with the Hausa/fulani in Nigeria, is anybody here willing to stick out his neck to say that if the price of peace is to allow the fulani run the politics of Plateau, peace will reign? My answer to that is no. They will start telling you where to live (sabon gari), where to urinate (or you go to alkali courts) and how your women must dress and stuff like that. Are the fulani/Hausas indigenous to Abuja? Where we not here when they said that the Miss World Pageant will not hold even in Calabar? These people just want to dictate your destiny and the share the same ideology with their Arab brethren. If you don't want to be treated as a slave in your home, you just have to push back, so Governor Jang in my view is doing the right thing. Let them keep their barbaric culture in the desert.



GBAM!!!!!
Re: Jos Burning Now! by EzeUche2(m): 6:11am On Jan 31, 2011
owobokiri:

Lets get some facts straight:

1) There are fewer Hausas in Nigeria. While a combination of the two groups (fulani and hausa) might give you the largest ethnic grouping in West Africa, we always tend to inflate their numerical strength to their advantage. Moreover, being large doesn't automatically translate to being dominant if others are ready to push back. I will get to this point later.

2) The Yorubas in Benin, Togo and Cuba or the Igbos in Equatorial Guinea and Gabon don't come fighting for their respective groups in Nigeria when there is a crises between these groups and their neighbors. If every group across Africa should band together to fight whenever we have our usual local squabbles, I can bet that the Hausas and their fulani cousins will find life more difficult than they envisage.

3) If the Hausas in those areas can afford to join hands to fight against the Beroms, then other minorities in the middle belt can decide to join the Beroms and I know no Hausa of fulani man wants to face a Tiv man. Those ones seldom brook their nonsense. Most times those of us in the south tend to classify everything up north as Hausa fulani. The opposite is the case. An Igede man in present day Benue state will fight you if you define him as belonging to any of the two groups. In fact folks from there even hate to be called northerners. This present Jos crises with all the fulani careless war rethorics will only swell that rank.

4) As Nigerias treasury which has always been their cash cow slips slowly out of their hands, it will slowly go back to either Fulani or Hausa. I know that religious wars and a high level of ethnic cohesion has almost tied the two groups together but I am not totally sure if it is right to always define them as being totally one, ,forever. It is not without reason.  For instance the average fulani can speak Hausa fluently but the typical haughty Hausa man may never understand a word of fulani. . Also remember that Hausa is the lingua-franca from Lokoja upwards. So even the Beroms and Angas etc speak Hausa fluently. While this helps to push the Hausa fulani agenda forward, it doesn't make a man a woman or vice versa.

5) Back to the first point. Numbers can be deceiving ma friend. You doubt me? Ask the Congolese (Zaireans). They have the most economically endowed country in Africa. They have a very big land mass and when compared to a tiny Rwanda their population and history as a cohesive unit after the katanga uprising can be seen as being far ahead of the Rwandes. But who is lording it over the other down their in the great lakes region now? It is the Rwandes  who imposed a head of sate in Kinshasa, then killed him when he stopped acting to their dictates. The present president of Congo is not finding life easy with them, for the simple reason that at this moment, the guys from Rwanda are better organized. Not saying that the fulanis are not well organized, in fact sophisticated traditional organization has been their best weapon for years, but who knows how things will work out these days?

BOTTOMLINE:

Some fights need to be fought. When you have a group of people like the Huasa/fulani with their dangerous ambitions to dominate you even in your own backyard, you must be willing to find a way to push back. Otherwise , you will wake up someday a tenant in your home. It is not like anybody is against the peaceful resolution of the Jos conflict or the co-habitation of this groups, but knowing our history with the Hausa/fulani in Nigeria, is anybody here willing to stick out his neck to say that if the price of peace is to allow the fulani run the politics of Plateau, peace will reign? My answer to that is no. They will start telling you where to live (sabon gari), where to urinate (or you go to alkali courts) and how your women must dress and stuff like that. Are the fulani/Hausas indigenous to Abuja? Where we not here when they said that the Miss World Pageant will not hold even in Calabar? These people just want to dictate your destiny and the share the same ideology with their Arab brethren. If you don't want to be treated as a slave in your home, you just have to push back, so Governor Jang in my view is doing the right thing. Let them keep their barbaric culture in the desert.


Thank you for this post.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by whoareu: 7:09am On Jan 31, 2011
I hate Islam and those barberians in it with passion. I wish those muslims can have an isolated world of their own. Terrorists! angry
Re: Jos Burning Now! by honeric01(m): 7:15am On Jan 31, 2011
Hypocrites, Nigerians!!! Chai

None of you people were seen on the thread where 50 mosques were burnt down and 4 people (Hausa) killed at tafawa balewa LGA, none of you people commented on that thread.

Why are Nigerians like this? you whine and nag when you hear Hausa killing others, but rejoice when it's the other way round.

Wicked people.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by suxes2005(m): 7:50am On Jan 31, 2011
But cant the govt do something to this regard?
Mehn, its so sad hearing this everyday.

Infact, dos pple sef are animals

SHALOM
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Nobody: 8:01am On Jan 31, 2011
honeric01, People may not be talking of tafawa/B, because we are talkng of Jos here!
Mention have been made of Borno and Bauchi on this tread if u care to read carefuly. By the way, is it 5mosques or 50? Typical info twistng of Dailytrust, Sahara/R and others!
Re: Jos Burning Now! by JosBoy4Lif(m): 8:06am On Jan 31, 2011
ShangoThor:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If you expect people to forget about their babies being butchered then you know nothing about human nature
This situation is only going to get worse.

No one is asking anyone to forget anything. But sentiment aside if there is no resolution the problem will exponentially grow.
I believe that peace is the way  forward nothing cowardly about that as the likes of EzeUche have labeled.

I don't know what type of rogue society that some assholes on this thread are demeaning fit for Plateau. But I want none of that!
I want a peaceful co-existence to be restored on the Plateau. This is not time for is "right" politics, unless of course we want more lives lost on both sides of the battlefield.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Nobody: 8:22am On Jan 31, 2011
Did anybody read that post by @elnaf, is that guy on weewee or something, he is busy calling fo blood and yet trying to pretend to profar solution! I dont blame him, hausa youths are the largest consumers of weed in this country and by far largest tobbaco smokers, even though their religion condem taking of harmful substances!
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Dereformer(m): 8:38am On Jan 31, 2011
There are two possible solution to Nigeria's problems.

1. The Tunisian cum Egyptian alternative or

2. The Sudan initiative. Period.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 8:39am On Jan 31, 2011
@ Honeric01,

People like you r a big disappointment to your maker and a treat to all mankind. Cant you comprehend that anyone who kills Babies, women and strangers for any reason atall, be it cartoons, stolen cows or diprivation of power is evil!!!
Remind us what happened in T/balewa that led to the crisis and burning of mosque there? let me tell you if u dnt know Hausa boys mobilized and burnt a billiard board which belonged to a christain  indigene. He burnt the table in the night while the owner slept and so the owner responded to the unexpected act of impunity knowing that if the Hausa can have the boldness to resort to such extreme measures over trivial issues he will graduate to his natural voilent expressions if not checked and so must be neutralized with unprecedented violence each time he shows his animalistic tendencies (Clearly the Hausa always draws first blood).  This story is what the C.Police is bauchi says and you know they always twist tales to favor their islamic brethren as we blog 19 christians have been arrested in swift raid by the cops, we dont see this police efficency in Jos. My friend Hausa enjoys no sympathy from even good Hausa muslims cos their modus operandi is established  as dastard and inhuman.

The attack and death unleashed on UJ students by Hausa youths supported by security operatives was totaly unprovocked yet hear your typical hausa brethren form Jos ELNAF on page 9 of this tread do what hausa do best. You r the wicked ones!!!
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Abagworo(m): 8:51am On Jan 31, 2011
@owobokiri.What many people have failed to realize is that Hausa also need liberation from Fulani.

@Udezue you seem locked in a belief that will do little or no good.The Hausas have not claimed any land but rather won an election in an area where they are more populous.What is wrong with leaving them to lead?Beroms actually have no stake in Jos North.The indigenes are the Jagawa.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by tyson55(m): 8:59am On Jan 31, 2011
whe need a SNC asap!
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Abagworo(m): 9:05am On Jan 31, 2011
http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7080:jos-crisis-must-have-taught-jang-some-lessons-says-useni&Itemid=7966

This is from Jeremiah Useni who is a Christian from Plateau.All those unaware of the true genesis of the crisis should read it.Again Jang armed some people and used the Armed forces to kill hundreds of protesting Hausas.Many Nairalanders were happy but I made it clear then that the Fulani never forgives and will not let the massacre die like that.

The crisis in Jos North has been described by many, as not political, that it has nothing to do with the local government election, since results were not yet announced before the crisis began. How would you describe it, from your point of view?

Who says that the crisis has nothing to do with the election? It has everything to do with the election. Because of the government’s determination to make sure that they win all the 17 Local Governments, whether they are acceptable there or not, that’s what caused the trouble. There is no way P.D.P could have won Jos. With the acceptability of D.P.P in Lantang North today, there is no way P.D.P could have won, and also in Dariye’s Local Government, Bokkos, it’s impossible! There is no way. We can go on and on. Even Wase, Kanke, Shendam, Jos North, I mean Jos East, sorry. So, its high time we started telling the people the truth. For once, we were in government, if we hadn’t left government, there would have been no vacancy. You can’t get into government and say it should end with you.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 9:08am On Jan 31, 2011
@Abagworo,

Jos North Belongs to the Jarawa and miango, rukuba, jebu, These population of pips outnumber the Hausa 3 to 1. And who told you the Fight is against the beroms? 60 unsuspecting igbo where cornered and killed three week ago without provocation by the hausa, University Students who had just resumed 5 days earlier from allover the country were attacked and killed, Babies are killd all these are happening cos The Hausa was not allowed to lord over a group. What do you think sparked the Bombing in the barcks in ABJ? Until all Nigeria condemns these group of trouble makers with one voice there is no hope for peace.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Rhino5dm: 9:20am On Jan 31, 2011
Classic! But how do you manage to know all this?? Am very intrested please. . . . .

Abagworo:

http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7080:jos-crisis-must-have-taught-jang-some-lessons-says-useni&Itemid=7966

This is from Jeremiah Useni who is a Christian from Plateau.All those unaware of the true genesis of the crisis should read it.Again Jang armed some people and used the Armed forces to kill hundreds of protesting Hausas.Many Nairalanders were happy but I made it clear then that the Fulani never forgives and will not let the massacre die like that.

The  crisis in Jos North has been described by many, as not  political, that it has nothing to do with the local government  election, since results were not yet announced before the crisis  began. How would you describe it, from your point of view?

Who says that the crisis has nothing to do with the election? It has  everything to do with the election. Because of the government’s determination to make sure that they win  all the 17  Local Governments, whether they are acceptable there or not,  that’s what caused the trouble. There is no way P.D.P could have won  Jos. With the acceptability of D.P.P in Lantang North today, there is no  way P.D.P could have won, and also in Dariye’s Local Government,  Bokkos, it’s impossible! There is no way. We can go on and on. Even  Wase, Kanke, Shendam, Jos North, I mean Jos East, sorry. So, its high  time we started telling the people the truth. For once, we were in government, if we hadn’t left government, there  would have been no vacancy. You can’t get into government and say it  should end with you.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Dave6: 9:24am On Jan 31, 2011
@Honeric
5 mosques were burnt during that unrest in Bauchi, NOT 50!  I wouldn't support violence and vandalism, but then, the aggressor who goes about attacking innocent citizens, women and children, and people during their sleep should NOT expect people's sympathy!
Re: Jos Burning Now! by calaway: 9:27am On Jan 31, 2011
@agbaworo,
You r desperate to defend the killing of babies,women and strangers if possible the entire christian population in Nigeria as reprisal for perceived disenfranchisement of the Fulani. I tell you even you will be consumed by this fire you fuel and fan just wait and see. FYI Gen. Hussani and Gen. Shagaya of Langtang are compromised Plateau chritians used by Hausa to advance their game in this nation. Can you rember MUTTALLAB, Can you imagine what the retired Gen. stood up to say on the floor of the senate to the hearing of the world? "you Nigerians have Children that will do worse"  So all Nigerians have Muttallab tendencies instead of condemning this evil tendcy. So are these the sort of people who will have anything constructive and progressive to say about his people? There will always be Judas and sellouts even though the statement was made in 2008. I am Useni may have seen the evil of his past ways by now.
Re: Jos Burning Now! by Abagworo(m): 9:29am On Jan 31, 2011
The enemy of the people of Plateau are not Hausas,Igbos,Beroms and other ethnic groups but their political leaders.They are using people to cling on to power.The Plateau people have always lived with Hausas.

OBJ dealt with Dariye when he attempted this Jangs method earlier.GEJ needs to punish Jang thoroughly for fueling ethno/religious hatred instead of tolerance in his State.

Another link that gives more insight.
http://www.gamji.com/article8000/NEWS8361.htm
Re: Jos Burning Now! by lokya(f): 9:35am On Jan 31, 2011
thati  despice more than a dogs sh1t than your type, there are some igbos i will drink tea with but your type, i will never look into your eye, filthy bushman, you will get what you wish for one day



lies the hausa man will do anything in the name of religion he will never look into your eyes. he will kill u gbam ask people like us dat schooled there. They BURN CHURCHES AND KILL CHRISTIANS IN THE NAME OF POLITICS. Joshua Dariye is from Bokkos not Jos so does not kw what it means for someone to come from somewhere to claim his land. Jang is from Jos. Imagine this Hausa people they want local govt in Jos , Can d Berom man leaving in Kano get up one morning to say he wants a local govt in Kano?
Re: Jos Burning Now! by lokya(f): 9:46am On Jan 31, 2011
asking anyone to forget anything. But sentiment aside if there is no resolution the problem will exponentially grow.
I believe that peace is the way forward nothing cowardly about that as the likes of EzeUche have labeled.

I don't know what type of rogue society that some assholes on this thread are demeaning fit for Plateau. But I want none of that!
I want a peaceful co-existence to be restored on the Plateau. This is not time for is "right" politics, unless of course we want more lives lost on both sides of the battlefield.
Stop using dat name Jos Boy. No one from plateau state will make such comments. Be proud of where ur coming from

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