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Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Asked Aides Of Possibility Of Replacing Electoral College With Loyalists by 5thcolm(m): 6:31pm On Nov 13, 2020
IMAMofWAR:
exactly. no one is talking about the court ooutcome. well, he was so much against the media. i think they are using this to pay him back
You should be thankful no one is talking about his courts outcome cause he hasn't gotten any meaningful win.
Most of his lawsuits are being tossed out in court.
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump Asked Aides Of Possibility Of Replacing Electoral College With Loyalists by 5thcolm(m): 6:28pm On Nov 13, 2020
XXLMANDIGO:
Nairaland is part of the Globalist movement , always pushing anti-trump news to the front-end. angry
But there is not much good news to push for Trump. Pls make a topic for one if you have one
Foreign AffairsRe: World Leaders Who Have Congratulated Joe Biden (List) by 5thcolm(m): 5:34pm On Nov 13, 2020
Openbusiness:
Mr Oga, did the Supreme Court rule on the Al Gore Vs GW Bush elections, yes or no? Did their ruling result in a Bush presidency, yes or no? Was Al Gore president elect before the Supreme Court ruling, yes or no? Was Al Gore later sworn in despite being called president elect, yes or no? Was Al Gore president elect for 37 days but never became president eventually after the Supreme Court ruling, yes or no?

And your narrative is not accurate.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/00-949
Bros, What happened in year 2000 is far from what's happening now in 2020.

In 2000, the outcome hinged on just one state: Florida. A win in Florida would push either candidate toward victory. In the end, a difference of only 537 votes was key to deciding the presidency, and this very narrow margin allowed both sides to fight aggressively over every ballot.

In 2020, President-elect Joe Biden is ahead by thousands of votes in five battleground states where President Donald Trump's team is pursuing legal action to challenge the results. The closest state, Georgia, which will hold a recount, has Biden ahead by more than 12,000 votes as of Nov. 10.

What are you saying. The AL Gore v Bush case was more of a recount issue.

The Supreme Court involvement is to stop a request for a second hand recount which to me is a reasonable decision since there ia no time to do a hand recount before the result has to be officially called. The supreme court did not overturn the actual election result.

So tell me what is the correlation.

Even if you want to forcefully see a similarities. Biden = Bush in this situation because he is the one that is leading like Bush albeit with a even bigger margin and across 4-5 states with 12,000 votes lead in the state with the lowest margin.

Did you even read the link you provided?
Foreign AffairsRe: World Leaders Who Have Congratulated Joe Biden (List) by 5thcolm(m): 3:21pm On Nov 13, 2020
Openbusiness:
In 2000, Al Gore was the Leftists lamestream media president-elect for 37 days, until the Supreme Court ruled in favor of GW Bush, and it was Bush that became president. Biden should enjoy his 5 minutes of fame as president of the Fake News media, because he won't be President of America grin. The Supreme Court will decide the winner. Even America's electoral body HAS NOT declared Biden as president-elect. Only the Fake News media of the Democrats, Globalists and NWO are declaring Biden president elect. But unfortunately for them, it is not the media's declaration that will determine who gets sworn in by January. Like the Secretary of State Pompeo has said, Trump will have a smooth transition into his 2nd term as POTUS grin
Oh my God, that was a one state dispute that the media initially projected for Al Gore, then as counting continues Bush later flipped it and led with 538 votes. Florida was the deciding state to decide who wins the election at the time. Recounts was done and Bush still led by about 400 votes.

Thats totally different situation that this. Stop comparing two diff situations to justify your DENIAL.
Foreign AffairsTrump Attorney Tells Marcopa County Judge That Vote Challenge Is Not About Fraud by 5thcolm(op): 10:12am On Nov 13, 2020
Claims that “potentially thousands" of Arizona voters were disenfranchised dissolved during a six-hour court hearing on Thursday, as a lawyer representing the president’s reelection team dialed back allegations of “systematic, improper” vote overrides.

Donald Trump's campaign, along with the Republican National Committee and the Arizona Republican Party, had filed a lawsuit on Saturday alleging Maricopa County poll workers routinely disregarded procedures designed to give voters a chance to correct ballot mistakes on Election Day.

But within minutes of the start of proceedings on Thursday morning, attorney Kory Langhofer insisted the plaintiffs were "not alleging fraud" or "that anyone is stealing the election" — simply raising concerns about a "limited number of cases" involving "good faith errors."

That was perhaps a prescient shift, given that testimony from several witnesses failed to bear out anything more. And before Langhofer even made his opening statement, a controversy emerged over some of the declarations from supposedly misled voters that were submitted as evidence.

Attorneys representing Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, one of the election officials who was sued, moved to have declarations collected online tossed out, arguing they lacked “any guarantee of trustworthiness.”

Langhofer acknowledged some of the online declarations were found to be false but noted those entries had been removed, saying his team had cross-referenced the remaining declarations to ensure voters were where they said they were on Election Day.

Judge Daniel Kiley was unconvinced, ultimately granting the motion to exclude the declarations collected online.

“The fact that your process for obtaining these affidavits yielded affidavits that you yourself found to be false does not support a finding that this process generates reliable evidence,” Kiley said. “This is concerning.”

Testimony doesn't support broad claims
Things continued south from there for the plaintiffs.

The Trump team's original complaint had focused on poll workers overriding potentially "overvoted" ballots instead of allowing voters to make that choice. Overvotes happen when voters mark more options than allowed in a particular race.

Because stray markings and other irregularities can cause Maricopa County tabulation machines to perceive an overvote, the tabulators are programmed to alert voters when that happens. A voter then has two choices: “Spoil” the ballot and request a replacement, or cast the original ballot with the warning that overvotes may not be counted.

The initial complaint contended voters who chose to proceed with their original ballots were entitled to a manual inspection to ensure all legitimate votes were counted by the machines, but claimed elections officials systematically disregarded that step.

And some witnesses brought forward by Langhofer indeed testified that poll workers had pushed through their ballots without an explanation after the machine initially recognized an error.

The remaining allegations seemed to fall apart under questioning, however. None of the witnesses indicated they had overvoted any race, or that they had any real reason to believe their votes weren't counted — except for learning after the fact that poll workers shouldn't have pressed buttons for them.

Gina Swoboda, the Arizona Election Day Operations director for the Trump campaign, said she received reports on Election Day of ballots "taking two or three chances to go through."

"I believe that this is a justified action, that there were concerns expressed to us by the voters, by the observers," she said.

But she noted she "would not say that, in general, the poll workers across the county had consistent, regular problems in the administration of the election."

Attorney: Case is 'narrow claim about a good-faith failure'
The plaintiffs originally had asked election officials to go back and identify ballots with overvotes cast in partisan races in Maricopa County on Election Day, manually inspect those ballots and discard votes only in cases when “it is impossible to positively determine the voter’s choice.”

In his closing statement, Langhofer narrowed that ask significantly, saying plaintiffs sought only a reinspection of overvoted ballots in cases where the number of overvotes was greater than the margin of the winning candidate's victory.

It's unclear which, if any, down-ballot races this request would affect. County officials have identified 191 overvotes in the most high-profile race, for president, where thousands of votes separate the candidates. And there are only about 950 Maricopa County ballots cast in person on Election Day with overvotes affecting partisan races in general.

Langhofer himself noted there weren't "a tremendous number of votes" at stake, calling the suit a "narrow claim about a good-faith failure."

That represented a marked shift from his prehearing brief, in which he claimed the "haphazard differential treatment of similarly situated ballots cast within the same geographic jurisdiction in the same election encapsulates precisely the discriminatory disenfranchisement the Equal Privileges & Immunities Clause proscribes."

The judge seemed amenable to considering the request, saying he would take it under advisement, but attorneys for the defendants argued there was nothing in state law authorizing such an action.

An attorney for the county said the ballots in question already were tabulated, and "counting ballots that have already been counted is a recount."

Arizona does not allow recount requests and has strict criteria for automatic recounts. In races where more than 25,000 votes were cast, the margin has to be less than or equal to 200 votes or 0.1% of votes cast for the top two vote-getters, whichever is smaller.

The judge did not indicate when he would rule, saying only that he was "aware of the time constraints and the urgency of the matter."

Minutes later, the Arizona Republican Party announced it had filed a new lawsuit in Maricopa County Superior Court seeking to force a hand count of votes separated by precinct instead of counting them by voting center.
Source: https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/12/maricopa-county-judge-hear-trump-team-case-maricopa-county-votes/6260414002/
Foreign AffairsRe: Breaking News!! Usa Election Supreme Court Rules In Pennsylvania Favors Trump by 5thcolm(m): 10:02am On Nov 13, 2020
Ibadansun1:
It's not a supreme court but a court in Pennsylvania.

Secondly, the votes in question could be for anyone of them and they were actually never counted in first place.

I don't know why you people are spreading fake news.

BREAKING NEWS: Meanwhile, the ghost of Micain has finally done it

Biden has won Arizona
Bros you better don't bother yourself, sorry to say, most people here don't read and i am tired of stating the obvious to supposed educated adults.
Foreign AffairsRe: Joe Bidden Projected To Win Arizona, Expands Electoral College Votes To 290 by 5thcolm(m): 9:47am On Nov 13, 2020
colorsofrainbow:
grin
Who is talking about INEC.OK you think Trump is Jonathan that can be rigged out easily.
Jonathan wasn't rigged out though. Same as Trump wasn't rigged out.

If you are familiar with US politics, you would know Republicans are the one in the business of vote suppression. That is thier main tactic.

In the case of Jonathan, People were deceived to vote for Buhari. It was obvious then that people wanted change.

Pls learn to take responsibility if things aren't going your way
Foreign AffairsRe: Joe Bidden Projected To Win Arizona, Expands Electoral College Votes To 290 by 5thcolm(m): 9:40am On Nov 13, 2020
omenka:
That's some gap right there.

I'd always tell people, Trump knows he has lost the election, and will eventually concede.

What people don't know is the reason behind his reluctance to concede. They seem to have forgotten who Trump is - a hardcore businessman who never misses an opportunity to cash out.

An election litigation fund has been created and donations have been pouring in from all corners, private individuals and corporate bodies I believe. The electoral laws permits that such funds can be channelled to personal expenses as well.

You see, election is big business in America and involves expenses running into billions of dollars, sometimes getting candidates into massive debts. Trump sees this as an opportunity to cushion his financial loses and nothing else. If for instance he prosecuted his reelection bid with 100 dollars, this presents him an opportunity to cut his loses by perhaps a quarter or less. Regardless, it means a little more cash at his disposal. That is just it and nothing more.
You sabi
Foreign AffairsArizona Judge Denies Trump Team Request To Seal Evidence In Vote-counting Suit by 5thcolm(op): 11:33pm On Nov 11, 2020
An Arizona Superior Court judge has denied a request by President Trump's reelection team to seal evidence in a lawsuit alleging poll workers in Maricopa County "incorrectly rejected" Election Day votes.

Judge Daniel Kiley agreed with election officials' assertion that the public “has a right to know how flimsy [the] Plaintiffs’ evidence actually is.”

According to the Arizona Republic, the Trump campaign claimed workers had disregarded procedure and that thousands of ballots could have been left uncounted or deemed "overvotes," but Maricopa officials estimated Monday that only 180 ballots were potentially in jeopardy.

It's a figure they said won't "make one iota of difference," according to 12 News.

Arizona sided with former Vice President Joe Biden by a 0.3 percentage point margin, with Biden besting President Trump 49.4% to 49.1%, respectively.

It was the first time the historically red state had voted blue since former president Bill Clinton's win in 1996.

Although votes are still being counted, as of Monday evening Biden still had a 14,746-vote lead.

The call for Arizona was one many said handed President-elect Biden the win -- though Trump has refused to concede his position.

The lawsuit was filed Saturday in partnership with the Arizona Republican Party and Republican National Committee.

In a Tuesday motion, attorney Kory Langhofer said the Trump campaign planned to submit evidence including the feed from inside a polling place.
Alternatively, Maricopa County attorney Thomas Liddy said that the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, Democratic Secretary of State Katie Hobbs, and Democratic County Recorder Adrian Fontes had no quarrel with redacting information protected under state law.

However, Liddy pointed out that this case was "not a standard, run-of-the-mill election law challenge" and taking footage within 75 feet of a polling center would be a Class 2 misdemeanor.

On Tuesday, court officials indicated Kiley would allow attorneys to redact birthdays, signatures and Social Security numbers if used in a trial.


Source: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/az-judge-denies-trump-team-request-for-evidence-in-suit-over-maricopa-county-votes
PoliticsRe: Gays, Lesbians, Satan: Femi Fani-Kayode Blasts Biden, Harris & Supporters by 5thcolm(m): 12:37pm On Nov 11, 2020
cococandy:
And on the issue of abortions, most Democrats are also against late abortions, not only Republicans. In fact I am yet to meet a Democrat who actively encourages abortions rather than prevention. Prevention is key.

While we believe a woman has the right to choose, Democrats believe that if the groundwork is laid to prevent unwanted pregnancies, increase women’s and poor people’s access healthcare, the need for any type of abortions will drastically reduce.

A late term abortion is never because the woman just woke up one day after being pregnant for months to decide that she doesn’t want it anymore. Usually, those are wanted babies that have to go due to health complications. It’s always heartbreaking for the moms and families to let go of wanted babies at that late stage during the pregnancy. So that’s not even a debate topic. It’s stupid for them to keep saying Democrats are for late term abortions. Asinine really.

If a late term abortion is warranted, it’s usually because it’s unavoidable and the mom’s life is at stake. It’s a painful thing, not done for convenience.

How to reduce that would include medical coverage for extensive screenings during the early stages of pregnancy to know who’s at risk and how to help them.
Whenever you mention total tax funded govt coverage for birth control, prenatal care etc, the Republicans start chanting socialism and communism. They even attack comprehensive sex education in schools stating that it’s pornographic and pedophilic to teach children those things.

Please how will they prevent pregnancies and abortions without comprehensive sex Ed, access to birth control and proper proactive prenatal care? By Using religious dogma and slut shaminghuh When has that ever prevented unwanted pregnancies?

I can’t with those people. They unthinkingly parrot whatever their deranged leaders tell them to believe. Even if it’s to their own detriment.
Thanks sis for this. Please keep educating people here on this.
Most people don't ever dig deep to get the full picture of topics.
Foreign AffairsRe: Only 3 Percent Of Americans Believe Trump Beat Biden by 5thcolm(m): 12:26pm On Nov 11, 2020
Jeromejnr:
You know the problem with you people is that you can be filled with biases and refuse to see things objectively.

Even with data presented from experts on a TV show, you will still say as far its on this particular channel o, its fake.

Even Mike Pompei the CIA guy and US Secretary of state yesterday said he has received data on election fraud evidences both from within the country and around the world but some people and in their little huts in Nigeria know better and have all the info.

Anyways over 200 affidavits have been sworn by witnesses of election fraud across the nation. And you know when that happens you can go to jail to lying.

Think objectively, not with bias.
Really? Paul Murray an expert? Do you even know him before now?

I believe Trump should have is day in court like any other US citizen. Issue is, would he and You agree to the court decision? I guess no.

I doubt you've even gone through the lawsuits to see where they are right now. Please check it here
https://www.nairaland.com/6242627/every-trump-election-lawsuit

I only care about facts, not rhetorics. Anyone can talk, not everyone can walk the talk.

If you know the history of US elections, you would know this things are common and they don't amount to anything.

I live in the US, not in a Nigerian hut like you insinuated. Spoke to some of my colleagues who said they voted for Trump and they agreed Biden won that they know Trump is just being Trump.

I can't categorically say those 200 people that gave affidavits are lying... they are probably saying the truth that's why they won't go to jail cause the court knows that saying what they say based on their perspectives. But is it enough to overturn 5 states result? I doubt that.

Most of the time when irregularities happen? It affects both sides positively and negatively cause like i said, no election is perfect.

Please keep tabs on the actual lawsuits and ignore the rhetorics then we wait and see the what the court decides on.

I know Trump won't accept court decisions but would you?
Foreign AffairsRe: Only 3 Percent Of Americans Believe Trump Beat Biden by 5thcolm(m):
hush15:
Hehehe... See Biden supporter o.

Bur how come na 79% you mention. Sebi una say na 3% be us.

You be olodo.
No he is not.

He replied to a comment when someone questioned how come 79% percent believed Biden won when over 60 million voted for Trump.

The simple reason is that even though over 60 million voted for Trump, that doesn't mean they didn't believe Biden won now that the result is out.

You voting for someone doesn't mean when the result is out, the person must win. Most people here in the US understands that.

So he is right not an olodo.

It's a bit frustrating to have to explain this simple logic but hey... this is Nairaland.
Foreign AffairsRe: Only 3 Percent Of Americans Believe Trump Beat Biden by 5thcolm(m): 11:54am On Nov 11, 2020
Jeromejnr:
False news and data everywhere. Especially thier master Corrupt News Network.

These liberals are desperate to push Trump out and make him concede when its his legal right to dispute the elections.

What are they so afraid about na?

Watch better conservative news and see evidences of fraud everywhere.

See Sky news below calling out the liberal media B.S.

But you will never see these on the liberal news. grin
Haha.

Are you seriously taking this guy serious.

He is the tucker calson or sean hannity of Australia TV host. He is an information terrorist.

Lol
Foreign AffairsRe: Jubilation, Dejection Across America After Biden Declared Winner (In Pictures) by 5thcolm(m): 10:59am On Nov 11, 2020
demmymoney:
Okayyyy

Trump all the way!!!!
Haha... ok boss.

Have you checked the lawsuits though.

https://www.nairaland.com/6242627/every-trump-election-lawsuit

Don't fall for rhetorics, look for facts.

Peace!
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump: "Results Coming Next Week, We Are Making Big Progress; We Will Win!" by 5thcolm(m): 2:47am On Nov 11, 2020
Blackmoran:
babe you in for a shocker
Well we know how the story ends.

Trump won't succeed in overturning any state result.

You would then say the court cheated him that democrats are in charge of the court.

Did you even take your time to read the lawsuits filed by Trump and the backstory to the lawsuits? I guess not
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump: "Results Coming Next Week, We Are Making Big Progress; We Will Win!" by 5thcolm(m):
Blackmoran:
bros this evidence no be Russian play ooo... Infact the walking dead movie is in reality now where dead people are voting... And thousand of vote can be switch within a seconds.... Democrat I hail oooo.... Which lawyer fit defend magic?
Haha, bros. Mistakes like this are not new. And we will always have them.

I am sure you didn't dig deep to get the full gist of the dead person that the system shows voted.

Pls trying getting the full gist and know the true story.

It's a bit tiring to have to explain the gist here but the main thing is that it's a case of mistaken identity in the system and the vote would not count anyways as the Id and signature would not checkout.

Reasons like this are the reasons why this cases are being thrown out in court.

I am a programmer and i know this things happen in a system. This is what we call exceptions in a system and they are never in large quantity. This is why we would always have a job just so we can make the system better


Whatever my explaination is, you won't believe cause you probably would not go deep like courts would do to know the real story of this lawsuits.

There is nothing in the lawsuits that hasn't happen in previous election.

Thats why Trump won't succeed in overturning one state result.

Like i said Trump knows this. He really just wanna feel better if enough people believe he was cheated
Foreign AffairsRe: Jubilation, Dejection Across America After Biden Declared Winner (In Pictures) by 5thcolm(m): 2:27am On Nov 11, 2020
demmymoney:
U didn't answer my question tho....
I did.

You asked if i would accept and i said yes, cause i have full faith in the US judicial system
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump: "Results Coming Next Week, We Are Making Big Progress; We Will Win!" by 5thcolm(m): 10:17pm On Nov 10, 2020
Blackmoran:
state been investigated are swing state, such as Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and three other state which I can't remember now...
The point is a change in result in any of these state after the hearing might change the outcome of this election.... And with stories poping out that dead citizen voten and Republican been denied access in Pennsylvania to monitor the counting the democrat and other electoral agency have so much to answer....
In conclusion the democrat must defend that number they claim to have and prove to us the election is free and fair, that is if they don't have any skeleton in there cupboard...
Haha... if you expect results in 4 states to change for Trump to win you are on a long thing.

And if you don't know why Trump is doing all this, then you don't know Trump. He knows nothing is coming out of this lawsuits.
Please take your time and check them out here https://www.nairaland.com/6242627/every-trump-election-lawsuit

Only reason his doing this is to sow the seed in his followers mind and those foolish enough to believe the widespread fraud allegations.

In other words, he would always claim he never lost the election. Knowing Trump, that would give him comfort
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump: "Results Coming Next Week, We Are Making Big Progress; We Will Win!" by 5thcolm(m): 10:10pm On Nov 10, 2020
tayolove12:
Wicked people after losing the election there still lie to this man gather the remaining straight and make the call
Haha, it's actually the other way round... he is the one lying to them. No the people he is lying to doesn't know the truth but man must chop
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump: "Results Coming Next Week, We Are Making Big Progress; We Will Win!" by 5thcolm(m): 10:08pm On Nov 10, 2020
I pity anyone that doesn't know Trump is in another reality.
No new evidence. His lawsuits keeps get shutting down in courts.
But as the saying goes.
A conman knows his victims are foolish. He can pretty much say anything and they would believe.
Foreign AffairsRe: Jubilation, Dejection Across America After Biden Declared Winner (In Pictures) by 5thcolm(m): 3:36am On Nov 10, 2020
demmymoney:
Sure if Biden wins in court we will acknowledge his win but wud u acknowledge trump victory if Biden looses in courthuh

Cos Biden is preaching unity but the leftist don't believe in unity
leftist, rightist.... none is a saint... in fact, none is better than the other. everyone is just fighting for his or her self interest.

and we all want the same thing.

we just have diff ways of getting to our destination.

don't fall for politicians' divide and conquer trick.

you are smarter than that
Foreign AffairsRe: Jubilation, Dejection Across America After Biden Declared Winner (In Pictures) by 5thcolm(m): 10:51pm On Nov 09, 2020
demmymoney:
Sure if Biden wins in court we will acknowledge his win but wud u acknowledge trump victory if Biden looses in courthuh

Cos Biden is preaching unity but the leftist don't believe in unity
I have full faith in the US judiciary system. Whatever the decision they get to is fine for me.

We would see, it's not gonna be long so i would be watching you...lol

Thanks for the good conversation.
Foreign AffairsRe: Jubilation, Dejection Across America After Biden Declared Winner (In Pictures) by 5thcolm(m): 7:42pm On Nov 09, 2020
Adakintroy:
You talk about the integrity of the electoral system being devoid of rigging at the same time you are talking about cases in courts over fraud.

I don't need to be in u.s to know the electoral how the electoral system works. I know how humans
work. Nobody know enough how the u.s electoral system works. If they know it that much trump won't be here in the first place.

You not two state close to Trump in knowledge of this system. He knows America more than you. You are groundup. He is looking skydown. Bird eye view.


The first election had the subject of Russian interferance. Was it proven?. It depends on the hands playing you.

Trump is a strong hand. He came up through many legal Feud's. Underrate him at your peril. The last time you did. You lost.

I repeat. Trump only had to proof irregularities of the mechines which you aware of the glitches. Case of dead voters substantiations. How did that happen?

In other words put a question on the mail in ballots system. But with evidence.
.he has plenty money to throw round. I doubt if evidence will be hard to find.
The case of dead person voting have actually been debunked.
It's kind of a long story. It was a case of clerical mistake causing record of someone dead in 1984 showing when a search was made for someone of same name which turns out to be the dead person's son.
The thing is, verification on ID and signature is done on each person's ballot for it to be valid.

So in this situation, the person's ballot would have counted anyways.

Few mistakes like this are expected i an election of over 150 million people.

I am a programmer and i know oversights like this happen in any system. It shouldn't just be much.

Things like this are common though. It's not just about this election.

Trump will get his day in court. Whichever the decision. It's no big deal.

Fact is my mayor/state election has more effect on me than presidency.

Issue is, Trump and You won't still accept if court decision didn't go your way (which is really the point of the lawsuit, to massage Trump's ego...lol. and to make it look like he didn't loss)
Foreign AffairsRe: Jubilation, Dejection Across America After Biden Declared Winner (In Pictures) by 5thcolm(m): 3:42pm On Nov 09, 2020
demmymoney:
If after the investigations Trump still looses which I doubt cos democrats rigged the election obviously then Biden will b declared winner officially.

How come roe vs wade was passed by Ginsburg and her goons wen most states in the US had strong anti-abortion laws??

Remember the majority of the judges in the Supreme Court of America are CONSERVATIVES

How come Republicans retain senate seats and even won more seats in the Househuh We conservatives are not daft nah


Just look at covid 19 vaccines, Trump said it's going to be out b4 the year's end and we can see it in the news that the vaccine will soon b released and it's 90% effective but democrats and the left,people like Dr Fauci,said it is a lie that it will take up to 2022 b4 vaccines are effectively done


Currently in the news Trump is planning to hold rallies to make the republican party aware of the massive election fraud that occurred during the election in democrats strongholds counties,discuss litigation and not about debt clearing please!!!!

Trump ain't going to b tweeting throughout this month nahh just relax and enjoy the show.



Read this below ���

"PHILADELPHIA HAS A LEGENDARY HISTORY OF 'VOTER FRAUD'": Rudy W. Giuliani discusses allegations of voter fraud in Philadelphia.
Via Newsmax TV: nws.mx/tv
You didn't answer the question i asked.

Would Trump accept court decision if they come to a conclusion that no widespread fraud to overturn Biden's win?

Would you accept court decision too?

I want your answer so we can wait to hear court decision then come back to see who is right.
Foreign AffairsRe: Jubilation, Dejection Across America After Biden Declared Winner (In Pictures) by 5thcolm(m): 2:30pm On Nov 09, 2020
demmymoney:
But the Supreme Court of the USA can overrule any shady and unconstitutional state election laws

It's not a bad thing to b in debt especially wen paper currency is backed by debt so it's not a bad thing, the whole world uses debt that's why almost all countries have public debt (national debt)

Just chill very soon covid vaccine will b out and with overwhelming evidences of massive election fraud in stronghold democrats counties we are going to witness how Trump is going to get reelected!
Did you read the lawsuits link i put in my post?
https://www.nairaland.com/6242627/every-trump-election-lawsuit

Most of this cases have no standing and they already easily been thrown out.

Issue is, you don't know what Trump is trying to do. His only plan is to make people doubt the credibility of Joe Biden's win so he can forever say he won the election cause Trump that we know believes he is the best thing to happen to this world and see no way to loss any election even against Jesus..lol.

My question to you is this.

After all investigations and it later comes out that there was no widespread fraud.
Would Trump agree that there is no widespread fraud?
Would YOU agree that there is no widespread fraud?
Please anwser the question.

I am guessing the answer is no. Because to Trump and most of his supporters, Trump is a messiah like never before. This is because he uses the trick of saying it so much till some people start believing it.

Unfortunately for Trump, US court only care about evidence beyond reasonable doubt not hearsay.

I will have his day in court like every other citizen.
Foreign AffairsRe: What Will Happen If Donald Trump Refuses To Leave Office by 5thcolm(m): 2:17pm On Nov 09, 2020
yusufu16:
It obvious you didnt understand my post.

Have you watched FOX News(Trump's favourite news media) and see how they portray him?

Who is Mexican President in the league of high ranking Presidents for US. Have you seen the number of US allies who have already congratulated Biden?

CNN is more credible than FOX News
No mind am..

FOX News is not even categorized as a news channel, they are under entertainment category.

Because of this, they are mostly not held responsible for running a wrong story.

Any doubt me should check and confirm
Foreign AffairsRe: Jubilation, Dejection Across America After Biden Declared Winner (In Pictures) by 5thcolm(m): 2:03pm On Nov 09, 2020
Adakintroy:
All of una don start. This is not Nigeria. You are seeing police brutality. You are seeing election malpractice. How are those not Nigeria.

That said. Trump only need to support fraud irregularities case with evidence. Just pray their are non.

Just wait and see wetin supreme Court go do.

You dealing with a very rich man now. Not just your average puncher.
I insist this is not Nigeria. Election in the US are fully run by state not federal like Nigeria. Lawsuits are mostly dealt with on a state level.

Trump cannot force US Supreme Court to take a case that it does not have Jurisdiction for.

Only very very few of this case would even smell the Supreme court.

FYI, election lawsuits are common. They just don't result to anything serious. Omny reason why there is shouts about this is because Trump shouted about it.

There was lawsuits in last elections too. They just never amount to anything.

Election fraud lawsuits in the US for the last 5 US elections have only confirm 12 cases of fraud.
Yes 12. 2016 election confirmed 5 cases out of 130 million vote. Because Just so you know, they do call people that vote to confirm who they voted for in some cases.

So yes, this is not Nigeria. I live in the US and i know the process for the election and i can tell you it is very difficult to do mago mago. There is technology to confirm integrity of each ballot. For counting they are always observers from each party and camera to capture every count.

Commiting election fraud in the US is a felony so no one would go scot free.

When you do your research and see the process you would understand why we only have 12 cases in the last 5 elections.

Now you are talking about Trump being a rich man so he would fight well in court. Again Naija politics is doing you. Election funding in the US is the opposite of how its done in the Nigeria. In Nigeria, politicians use their money to fund election. In the US, supporters donate money to fund elections, politicians don't use their money.

You wanna know which US party always get more money by far? The democrats. So i can assure you money is not the issue.

Trump campaign is already begging for people to donate for the lawsuit and also to pay their debts...lol

Please research how election works in the US and see why we always have very very low cases of election fraud.

Also checkout ongoing cases here :
https://www.nairaland.com/6242627/every-trump-election-lawsuit

Nearly all those cases are in the state court and they would end there
Christianity EtcRe: Kenneth Copeland Laughs Off News Report That Joe Biden Is The 46th US President by 5thcolm(m): 8:56am On Nov 09, 2020
damosky12:
Oh! I understand you now. Kindly reduce your Yoruba movies. It's not only witches that laugh. Even God does...
Lol

Yoruba movies have upgraded, witches in yoruba movies don't laugh like this anymore.

Yes God laughs.

But can you laugh like this in public and not be taken to yaba left? Not an abuse o. I'm just asking
Christianity EtcRe: Kenneth Copeland Laughs Off News Report That Joe Biden Is The 46th US President by 5thcolm(m): 8:42am On Nov 09, 2020
damosky12:
How are you taking yourself serious? You think you are so great that you're the standard for what's embarrassing or not?
Brotherly, it's just my personal opinion o. Of which i am entitled to.

Only time i see people laughing like this are witches in yoruba movies.
Foreign AffairsRe: Jubilation, Dejection Across America After Biden Declared Winner (In Pictures) by 5thcolm(m): 8:36am On Nov 09, 2020
jamace:
Give Trump the benefit of the doubt, pls. It is his right.
It doesn't matter if i give him benefit of a doubt just as it doesn't matter if he conceed or not.

Due process will play out itself.

Just that however the conclusion of all these, Trump would never agree that he lost.
Not like anyone is surprised and that is why ppl don't take him serious.

His ego is fragile.

Pls check lawsuit filed here

https://www.nairaland.com/6242627/every-trump-election-lawsuit
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump To Continue To Hold Campaign-style Rallies As Legal Team Girds Up by 5thcolm(m): 8:29am On Nov 09, 2020
Lol
Foreign AffairsEvery Trump Election Lawsuit by 5thcolm(op): 8:23am On Nov 09, 2020
Pennsylvania
Multiple legal battles over the Keystone State’s election laws were underway well before Election Day, but this week, the Trump campaign upped the ante. Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro said in an interview that “there has been a lot of noise about litigation” but it has had “zero material impact” on the electoral process. “The count has continued. Legal votes are being tallied and soon the commonwealth will respect the will of the people and certify a vote,” he said. Since Tuesday, the campaign has filed at least five separate lawsuits, with mixed results:

1. To compel Philadelphia election officials to stop counting ballots.

A federal judge dismissed the request.

2. To compel state election officials to allow Trump campaign officials closer observation of the counting process.

A state judge ruled in the campaign’s favor, allowing campaign officials to observe the Philadelphia process from a six foot distance. Philadelphia election officials appealed the decision to the state Supreme Court, and the outcome of that appeal is pending.

Levitt says this ruling will likely affect the pace of the count, rather the outcome. “Imagine a gymnasium, with observers lining the walls: to let the observers get closer, they’ve got to move the count closer to the walls and not be counting in the center,” he writes. Since people can no longer count in the center of the gym, “the count is going to move more slowly.”

3. To compel Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar and all 67 counties to impose an earlier date for voters to show proof of identification if it was not on their initial ballots.

Litigation is ongoing. The presiding judge ordered all counties to segregate ballots if the voters do not provide supplemental identification by Nov. 9. The ballots with supplemental identification provided after Nov. 9 cannot be counted until approved by the court.

Local Republicans filed a separate suit against Boockvar in state court, alleging she subverted state law when she issued guidance telling voters with deficiencies on their mail-in ballots to cast provisional ballots, and trying to prevent those provisional ballots from being counted. A state judge denied that request, but ordered officials to segregate provisional ballots from voters who submitted deficient mail-in ballots before election day.


4. To compel the Montgomery County Board of Elections to stop counting mail-in-ballots

The campaign and Republican National Committee filed suit to halt the process of counting mail-in ballots in Montgomery County, one of the counties in suburban Philadelphia, alleging that the board of elections was counting 600 ballots that had not been placed in secrecy envelopes and was therefore not complying with requirements. Pennsylvania election data shows Montgomery county overwhelmingly voted for Biden.

The litigation is ongoing.

5. To intervene in an already existing dispute before the U.S. Supreme Court about whether ballots the state received after 8 p.m. on Election Day should count.

The litigation is ongoing. Some legal experts are skeptical SCOTUS will take the case, while others say that even if the Justice do, their ruling is unlikely to change the outcome of the Presidential election.

“I think that the court is going to be very hesitant to involve itself in the process in the most politically contentious context possible,” says Michael Dimino, an election law expert at Widener University in Pennsylvania. Joshua Geltzer, executive director of the Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection at Georgetown Law, notes that the number of ballots that may fall in this category “appears increasingly irrelevant to the election outcome given the sheer vote numbers in that state regardless of those ballots.”

The backstory: After Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court extended the ballot receipt deadline to Nov. 6, state Republicans twice appealed the case to the U.S. Supreme Court. The first time they were unsuccessful, and the second time the court declined to expedite the decision before the election, but left open the possibility of hearing it afterwards. On Friday, Supreme Court Justice Alito, in response to a motion from Pennsylvania Republicans, ordered state election officials to segregate any ballots that arrived after election day. State officials had already ordered counties to segregate any ballots that arrived after Election Day, likely anticipating a future challenge.

Nevada
With Trump narrowly trailing Biden in the state, the Trump campaign has backed two cases to impact the counting of ballots:

1. To impose an injunction on the automated signature-verification machines used in Clark County as ballots continue to be counted.

A federal judge rejected the request on Nov. 6, ruling that federal judges should not be involved in state election administration and there is no evidence Clark County is doing anything unlawful.

The backstory: The Trump campaign held a press conference on Nov. 5 introducing Jill Stokey, a Nevada voter who claimed that when she tried to cast a ballot, she was told someone had already cast a mail-in ballot in her name. She alleged that the signature verification technology used in Clark County, the most populous county in the state, enabled someone to cast a mail-in ballot in her name. Her lawsuit asserted, without evidence, that “lax procedures for authenticating mail ballots” had resulted in “over 3,000 instances of ineligible individuals casting ballots.”

Aaron Ford, Nevada’s Attorney General, called Stokey’s allegations “absurd.” “While the Attorney General’s Office normally does not comment on pending litigation, I feel compelled to dispel the misinformation being circulated to undermine the public’s trust in our election,” he said in a statement.

2. To compel state election officials to allow the public closer observation at a Clark County ballot-counting facility.

The Trump campaign, Republican National Committee, and a plaintiff, Fred Krause, filed a lawsuit before election day in state court seeking to halt the counting process in Clark County until they could observe the process

A district judge rejected the lawsuit, ruling they lacked standing to bring the claims and had no evidence to back up their arguments. The plaintiffs appealed to the state Supreme Court, which accepted the request to expedite the case, but denied the request for immediate relief. In a November 5 order, the State Supreme Court said the campaign and state Republicans had reached a settlement. According to local news, the settlement included expanding observation access, so that all counting tables would be visible to the public.

Michigan
While the Associated Press called Michigan for Biden on Nov. 4, the Trump campaign and Republicans have continued to file lawsuits attempting, unsuccessfully, to stop the state ballot count. The state has seen two cases since Election Day:

1. To halt the counting of absentee ballots, on the grounds that campaign officials had not been given access to observe the process as required by state law.

Michigan Court of Claims Judge Cynthia Stephens denied the campaign’s request on Nov. 6.

2. To halt the certification of election results in Detroit, Michigan’s largest city and a Democratic stronghold.

Judge Timothy Kenny denied the motion for injunctive relief on Nov. 6, saying there was no evidence that oversight procedures had not been followed.

“Chief Judge Kenny’s quick decision mirrors a decision yesterday by Court of Claims Judge Stephens – specifically, that, once again, the allegations are mere speculation,” Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel’s Press Secretary Ryan Jarvi said in a statement. “The swift, clear and decisive opinion should put to rest the meritless claims that have been made in Michigan and other states around the country.”

The backstory: The case was not brought by the Trump campaign, but by a conservative group, the Election Integrity Fund, and sought to stop election workers in Detroit from “curing” absentee ballots that could not initially be read by a machine, a normal part of the ballot counting process. The case alleged that the work had not always been overseen by election inspectors from both major political parties, and that certification should be delayed until inspectors could review the process.

Georgia
In Georgia, where the on-going count suggests an extremely tight race, the Trump campaign has filed one suit:

1. To disqualify about 53 ballots.

A poll watcher in Chatham County reported seeing a stack of late ballots that may have arrived after the 7 p.m. Election Day deadline get mixed in with ballots that had arrived on time.

A Superior Court judge in Chatham County rejected the suit on Nov. 5 after hearing testimony from county officials that the ballots had, in fact, arrived on time. “There is no evidence that the ballots referenced in the petition were received after 7:00 p.m. on Election Day,” the court found.

Arizona:
Fox News and the Associated Press have declared Biden won the state, but other networks have held off, deeming the race too close to call. On November 7, the Trump campaign and Republican National Committee filed a lawsuit in state court alleging voters’ ballots had been rejected because they contained “bleeds,” splotches” and “stray marks.” These allegations appear similar to claims circulating on social media that ballots would not be counted if voters filled them out using a Sharpie marker. Election officials have said these claims are false. A lawsuit with similar allegations was filed in the same court system by a group of voters who were represented by a conservative legal fund on Nov. 4; plaintiffs dropped the lawsuit on Nov. 7. They did not provide a reason for dismissing the case.

https://time.com/5908505/trump-lawsuits-biden-wins/

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