Skepticus:
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When you tell men to have sexual discipline by not bonking every woman that comes their way, whether they chose you or not, whether the environment/time is right or not, using your head, intuition over your foolish dick, they'll give you mocking replies that reveal their foolishness like: "You are not getting pusssy" "You are an incel" "I am a womanizer, (simping plates), so I understand women" "MGTOW guys are just scared of women" etc.

What these foolish dudes don't understand is that the generally accepted meme of "women are wonderful/men are evil", halo effect, women's neoteny/coyness already put men at great disadvantage in both patriarchal and gynocentric societies. So, as you build value, you are prone to being a bigger target in a society that already adjudged you as evil for just being a man and won't mind treating you with disdain as the disposable gender.

I'm on par with Zabiboy's vibe on: what is so special about a woman's pussssy that men put their lives at a great risk? Or what would they do for me that I can't do for myself, outside their smelly hole?

Well, Greenwood's case and the issues that surrounded it reveals all that has been said here. Attraction to women is natural for a man and there is nothing bad about it, but if you don't use your head over your dick on how to operate with women, you'll land, where other foolish men before you, did.

You guys have been forewarned.

Ketapu:
Try to talk to the lady as follow:

You: Hello, good evening. (The lady will probably look at you). How are you?

If the lady responds well. Ask her her name. You can compliment her and tell her you want to know her more if she's okay with that. If she is okay with that, you can tell her a little more about yourself. Then, ask for her number so that you can talk more later.

Don't worry if she says she can't give you her number. Remember, your aim is to overcome your fear of talking to ladies. Once you talk to her, you have achieved your aim. Don't force any lady to know you more. That's desperate.

Over time, you will notice you are no longer afraid to talk to ladies. In fact, you will start approaching ladies during the day. I have started wooing ladies during the day. I didn't get to that staged out of the blue. It was the confidence I built talking to ladies in the evening and night that helped me get to that level.

So yeah, Mr Ubunja, let's set the facts right.

1. I will still continue to encourage guys to cold-approach ladies they find attractive, whether during the day or night.

2. I WILL NEVER ENCOURAGE ANY GUY TO RAPE, DRUG, OR HARM ANY LADY. I WON'T ENCOURAGE GUYS TO FORCE THEMSELVES ON ANY LADY. IF THE LADY DOESN'T LIKE YOU, LEAVE HER ALONE AND MOVE ON TO ANOTHER LADY THAT WILL LIKE YOU

Tonnyray:
Now "redpillers" have evidence Greenwood cold approached the bitch and was not "chosen" I suppose.
It's a thing to argue, it's another thing to push it beyond the confines of intelligence.

luminouz:


I don't get you bro.

You mean this c....fish looking mudafucker wants a man using ABOVE iPhone 12 Pro Max??

Martinez39s:
By using the plural "redpillers", you make it seem like Smartb0y's post is reflective of the thoughts of many redpillers here on this Greenwood matter.

Tonnyray:
Dude I need to accord you plenty credit.... ....This is bound to be an interesting convo.

I'm glad you know how things work. You may have seen me mentioning Alan Currie in many of my comments. The guy is very good in coaching men on how to relate with women.

He and Rollo Tomassi are the best things that have happened to me since I started this red pill journey. In fact, Alan singlehandedly changed how I relate with women, while Rollo taught me on how to identify and handle troublesome women.

Alan said anytime you meet a new lady, after the normal introduction, TELL HER EXACTLY WHY YOU WANT TO KNOW HER. Don't play head games. Just tell her your mind. She will either be interested or not.

Anyone interested can read his books to understand better.

Many times, the ladies will just say:

Wait, is that why you came up to me?

I will just look her in the face and emphatically say yes. Those interested in my request usually give me an okay and that's it. Those not interested will tell me they are not interested and I will just leave them alone. Those pretending not to be interested usually try to connect with me later.

If I start sharing some of my success stories, you guys will be amazed how successful you can be if you can be 100% honest with women.

However, I won't be sharing details of those successful encounters because I respect the ladies that have been instantly interested in me and not play manipulative games with me.

You don't need to lie. Just introduce yourself. Let her also talk. Then, tell her why you are talking to her and want to get closer to her.

It's that simple.

One of the tenets of the red pill is to have abundance mentality. It will help you a lot in your relationship with the opposite gender.

I can say I now understand that concept well because I've seen it happen in real life.

Ketapu:
My reply

Martinez39s:
All discussions on Greenwood so far (before Smartb0y's post) had nothing to do with cold approach, "cold approachers," or being chosen, neither did anyone say Greenwood cold approached her or he wasn't chosen. The first discussion on Greenwood happened when the allegations surfaced and it was about giving Greenwood the benefit of doubt, nothing about cold approach; the second discussion on Greenwood was simply about d!ck control (which is invaluable and applicable to all men) and it only involved two people: victòr88 (who started the discussion) and Skeptiçus before Smartb0y joined, and both Viktòr88 and Skeptiçus never mentioned cold approach. The second discussion obviously stands on its own and isn't related to the recent fray on the issue of cold approach.

By using the plural "redpillers", you make it seem like Smartb0y's post is reflective of the thoughts of many redpillers here on this Greenwood matter. Except this is a typo, then I would say you should properly dissect discussions right from their origins. Smartb0y might have spoken amiss (except if there is a clarification I know not), but it shouldn't be taken that far. Let the argument or logical lapse of one person not be seen as a reflective of others in the group; doing the opposite is a logical lapse in itself. This pattern of misrepresenting redpillers in their thread should stop. Instead of misrepresenting redpillers, why not follow the origin of a discussion and point out when some is digressing or talking off point? Better still, you can refuse participating in the discussion like I did. Anyway, I want to believe you actually meant "a redpiller".

_{NB: see my post as a honest take. Don't misconstrue things or make any assumptions about my intentions. I would have said the same to anyone, even a redpiller. Finally, I have nothing against people who cold approach.}

fattprince:

Like the bitch I had an encounter with.
I called after 3 days of collecting number. She didn't pick I felt because it was late. I dropped hi on her WhatsApp, she replied after 3 days. I fvcked up though because I sent her a message after 3 days instead of 6. It worked tho becos she replied immediately. I asked her why she didn't pick my call she's telling me because I didn't ask her. Like really? I should ask you before I can call. Like I ask you on WhatsApp you reply me after 3-5 days if I can call or not? This girls have guts. I told her it was supposed to be I call her, she picks her call and I introduce myself (since I didn't give her my number) boom! Matter solved. She said boom! That's not how she does her thing. See what these simps has caused for men that still has sense and penis with urges. I forgot about her Sha. She's pretty though but not that attractive. No breast, flat ass.

Tonnyray:
That was the exact post targeted and if you cared to closely observe it was intentionally labelled "redpillers" not redpillers. That in itself should make you understand the intent. It's interesting the erring post is never addressed though. I did not bring cold approaching into the Greenwood saga, Smartb0y did. Have you quoted him to address that Sir?

Tonnyray:
That was the exact post targeted and if you cared to closely observe it was intentionally labelled "redpillers" not redpillers. That in itself should make you understand the intent. It's interesting the erring post is never addressed though. I did not bring cold approaching into the Greenwood saga, Smartb0y did. Have you quoted him to address that Sir?

ubunja:
there's a reason why in the red pill you GIVE a girl your number,,, you don't take it.

It may seem counterproductive and a long shot to give the girl your number and not take it,, but you're avoiding this very scenario. Give a female your contacts,, if she likes you enough she'll call you or text you. If she does none of the above, she never liked you. You forget her. But because you are the one who took her number,, you will find out she never liked you after 20 missed calls, 5 ignored WhatsApp texts and everything.

TRP is golden. It's rules may seem stupid. But they produce better results all around.

Ketapu:
My reply

odinson1:
I think I'm beginning to Hate Women, they can go any lengths to pull a man down. Imagine trying to ruin the career of a promising young star just because he cheated on you! Women and FOOLISH simps have already Executed the guy on social media and even now his life will never be the same.

Now imagine if Castration was the punishment for rape. He would have been castrated and now the truth has come out that he didn't commit the crime. Abi dem wan give am he balls back?

Martinez39s:

fattprince:

We learn everyday. It's true though.

Smartb0y:
Why's that dude trying the shaming tactics on me.
He has failed to provide screen shot .

I don't take accusation lightly.

fattprince:
Forget her, she's not interested.

ubunja:
can I add something?

A girl knows the first few seconds of seeing a guy if she'll fucc him or not. The moment she lays eyes on you she has decided "this one can get it!" or "pass!" - Even though you never asked, even though you don't even want her, even though you don't even see her, even though the circumstances are not sexual (eg at a funeral) - - - but she has already made up her mind about you. You can visit a new church and they ask you to stand up and introduce yourself, and the moment you stand up women will be deciding if they can let you fucc or not!! Every female you meet whatever the circumstances, she's making that decision about you. Not necessarily planning to sleep with you, but filing you either under fuccable or non-fuccable.

So talking to a girl and getting her to bed is not really convincing her to do something she didn't initially want, but more about her doing what she decided on the first place. Hence a girl who likes you will let you hit without so much as a pick up line.
Blessed is that man who can work out which category a woman has placed him in.

ubunja:


So talking to a girl and getting her to bed is not really convincing her to do something she didn't initially want, but more about her doing what she decided on the first place. Hence a girl who likes you will let you hit without so much as a pick up line.
Blessed is that man who can work out which category a woman has placed him in.

ubunja:
can I add something?

A girl knows the first few seconds of seeing a guy if she'll fucc him or not. The moment she lays eyes on you she has decided "this one can get it!" or "pass!" - Even though you never asked, even though you don't even want her, even though you don't even see her, even though the circumstances are not sexual (eg at a funeral) - - - but she has already made up her mind about you. You can visit a new church and they ask you to stand up and introduce yourself, and the moment you stand up women will be deciding if they can let you fucc or not!! Every female you meet whatever the circumstances, she's making that decision about you. Not necessarily planning to sleep with you, but filing you either under fuccable or non-fuccable.

So talking to a girl and getting her to bed is not really convincing her to do something she didn't initially want, but more about her doing what she decided on the first place. Hence a girl who likes you will let you hit without so much as a pick up line.
Blessed is that man who can work out which category a woman has placed him in.

odinson1:
I think I'm beginning to Hate Women

HATE THE GAME, NOT THE PLAYER. FOR WHATEVER THEY MAY HAVE DONE AND WILL STILL DO, "HATE" IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A POSITION THAT A REDPILLER SHOULD TAKE.

EVOLVE, GROW, AND ACCEPT THE GAME FOR WHAT IT IS WHILE GUARDING YOUR AFFAIRS FROM VULTURES. YOU'LL BE ALRIGHT. JUST LIKE I AM.

fattprince:

The Lady I sexed last. Everytime I just remember the first day we met, I used to laugh at myself because I remember her face then, she might just be thinking about us in bed and I'm just talking and telling her about the place. I never thought about sex because of the environment until she started giving me the vibes. I caught it and we did it though she makes it seem I initiated it which I didn't argue or pretend not to know.

Martinez39s:
Let it go. Rule it as a misunderstanding.

Martinez39s:
All discussions on Greenwood so far (before Smartb0y's post) had nothing to do with cold approach

Martinez39s:
By using the plural "redpillers", you make it seem like Smartb0y's post is reflective of the thoughts of many redpillers here on this Greenwood matter.

CAPSLOCKED:


HATE THE GAME, NOT THE PLAYER. FOR WHATEVER THEY MAY HAVE DONE AND WILL STILL DO, "HATE" IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A POSITION THAT A REDPILLER SHOULD TAKE.

EVOLVE, GROW, AND ACCEPT THE GAME FOR WHAT IT IS WHILE GUARDING YOUR AFFAIRS FROM VULTURES. YOU'LL BE ALRIGHT. JUST LIKE I AM.

Tonnyray:
Haha
I don't have a phone...

I too now stay away from ladies that have hit the wall. These include married women, ladies with kids, ladies that bleach (the signs are usually on their ankles, fingers, and toes), ladies that are too fat, and ladies with troublesome manners. I stay away from ladies I sense are not up to 18 years.

Once I know a female belongs to those group, I back off. I don't want dramas in my life.

Just make sure you are not deceiving them. Always be honest. Let them make the choice to be closer to you or not.

CAPSLOCKED:


HATE THE GAME, NOT THE PLAYER. FOR WHATEVER THEY MAY HAVE DONE AND WILL STILL DO, "HATE" IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A POSITION THAT A REDPILLER SHOULD TAKE.

EVOLVE, GROW, AND ACCEPT THE GAME FOR WHAT IT IS WHILE GUARDING YOUR AFFAIRS FROM VULTURES. YOU'LL BE ALRIGHT. JUST LIKE I AM.

Martinez39s:
I am yet to see a link to this Instagram post. I asked the last time, but I simply got a link that reported on Greenwood's bail release. Can you kindly provide link?

Finally, curb any rage and hate on women; don't let it overwhelm you. Instead understand the red pill, make peace with it, apply it, be strict and firm, put yourself first, and be indifferent. That's my personal take. Don't hate.