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Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by alphaNomega: 9:26am On Aug 27, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE:I could and I'm here to tell you it is crap |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 9:44am On Aug 27, 2020 |
Csonice1: You are only drifting into something insignificant to my question. Is it God that designed airplane? Csonice1: Violating spiritual laws? Is it God's plan that man should be be isolated, like a wild beast or fedal, exempted from civilisations? |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:03am On Aug 27, 2020 |
I wish I can buy time to my side.... The bii tch is always making me chase her. jamesid29: I had wanted to define, in your own words, what you meant by SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE. That will make me capture the true painting your mind is trying to portray. However, going by what you quoted, the spiritual significance of Etemenanki is that it serves as an abode for the Gods, even when there is no definite shrine dedicated to Marduk in there. Ok, I am fine with that. I hope this is why the Bible God became angry with the project, isn't it? jamesid29: What exactly do you want me to read? Scholar guesses that have no basis in the texts of the people who lived during when the Esagila and Etemenanki was in use? Read again; """This was the high sanctuary of Marduk, more prominent as a landmark than his sanctuary at ground-level, the massive E-sangil.... There is some evidence that the ziqqurrat-temple was a two-storey building, though both storeys may well have been the same length and breadth """ Is Etemenanki two storey structure? You would expect me to take material filled with inconsistencies, lacking empirical evidences corroborating with ancient texts cannot be taken serious. As shown in the quote text above, Esagila is the real shrine or sanctuary, with overwhelming evidence to prove this. Nothing proves there is shrine in Etemenanki. jamesid29: Hahaha Everywhere can be temple or abode of the God's, but cannot necessarily be the shrine of a particular God. Babylon is the gate of God, mean it is Marduk gateway from heaven into Earth, this doesn't mean the whole Babylon is shrine of Marduk or any particular Gods. |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:04am On Aug 27, 2020 |
jamesid29: At the emboldened, stop fighting too hard. Visiting temple does not necessarily meann one is there to worship God. jamesid29: Marriage and court of law are sacred institutions, having no resemblance with religiosity. Maybe Etemenanki is mere a sacred social (rather than religious) temple, serving as a monument where Babylonians celebrate new year festival. jamesid29: Smiles jamesid29: Herodotus works are highly respected. However, a cogent review of his life and work suggested that there is no evidence, not a single one, that there is a shrine on the top of Etemenanki; and that he has never visited Babylon or the temple in his lifetime, hence is works though importance cannot be fully relied on. Same applies to Diodorus Siculus , who drew from the works of Ctesias of Cnidus, the scholar who founded on the Persian Royal Archives, base in works much on mythical and legendary viewpoint, rather than historicity. But the points from both writers can be used, with new archaeological findings, to design a caricature of what the city was like in the past. More again, Esarhaddon claim was found on the wall of Etemenanki ruins, that he built/rebuild the tower basement. This corroborates with the letter of Mar-Issar, a scholar, whose first role was certainly that of a scribe, working for Esarhaddon in Babylonia. https://lup.lub.lu.se/student-papers/record/4450998/file/4463357.pdf None of those claims were mine, I attached references and paperwork from academic fields. I don't know what you are on about here. jamesid29: Wetin I won spin, chief? That Etemenanki doesn't serve as astronomical spot for observing the stars. And that the design as shown by Esagila text depicts complex mathematics and engineering computation which aided architecture revolution today. Wetin I dey spin when I don offload all evidences to buttress my points? Sir? |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 7:01pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by Csonice1: 7:36pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: Your question has been answered. you are only repeating meaningless words: see to that ; I have no business with a domineering person devoid of understanding. I have answered every bit of your questions even though you're scared of mine. Good bye. one day you will get to know the truth: whether in the body, or out of it. 1 Like |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by Csonice1: 7:40pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: Your question has been answered. you are only repeating meaningless words: see to that ; I have no business with an arrogant domineering person devoid of understanding. I have answered every bit of your questions even though you're scared of mine. Good bye. one day you will get to know the truth: whether in the body, or out of it. 1 Like |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 1:27am On Aug 28, 2020 |
[img]https://s8/images/Migdal-Bavel.jpg[/img] Migdal Bavel If you know you know, and whom no know, well, sorry, that's just the way the cookie crumbles |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:54am On Aug 28, 2020 |
Csonice1: Domineering and scared of your questions? Haaba! Be lenient with falsehood na. My questions was helping you see through the illogical basement of your reasoning. When you said God should be created for Wright Brothers designs of Plane, that mean you are telling us God built it, and maybe the Bible guided Wright brothers toward building of Aeroplanes. Shebi? Did you see how illogical that is? Funny. |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 9:05am On Aug 28, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: The figurative tower of babel is not selling, he don bring another jewish folktale structure... We no dey buy Make I dey Grove my ITT by Fela |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 9:41am On Aug 28, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Some of us haven't got a blooming clue of what Migdal Bavel aka the Tower of Babel is all about, that's why you get to read a clueless comment such as the immediate one above me |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by jamesid29(m): 4:23pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE:Lol, bros pls goan read this thing well. You still want to be arguing the difference between temple and shrine and what a temple signifies especially in the ancient world. Bros you've turn this conversation to cruise abeg What exactly do you want me to read? Scholar guesses that have no basis in the texts of the people who lived during when the Esagila and Etemenanki was in use? Read again;Lol, so now you know more than experts in the field that have spent a good chunk of their professional career studying this things. This one is not faith that you can say the Spirit revealed it to you boss. At the very least bring rebuttal from another paper. @bolded.... When I said you should read the papers carefully, you go think say na insult I won insult(see why I dey try die this matter since). The ziggurat itself wasn't two storeys, it's the temple at the top that was two storeys Abeg Read am well again https://www.nairaland.com/6057405/tower-babel-insight-into-space/5#93123213 HahahaWeldon sir .... Basically what you are saying is since a kings domain is the entire kingdom, his palace has no significance. It is well sir.... I wonder why people built temples in the first place then? See cruise When I was trying to explain ancient cosmic geography, you no won gree... Pls, no vex, read my replies to you on this topic again. At the emboldened, stop fighting too hard. Visiting temple does not necessarily meann one is there to worship God.Brosss , fighting hard?.... @bolded, why you no read the whole thing boss. The statement you even pointed out actually had a Not in it, expressing a negation. Okay this is the whole statement again, pls read it in its entirety.
Marriage and court of law are sacred institutions, having no resemblance with religiosity.Brosss, why do you think people used to call marriage a sacred institution . What do you think the whole debate about the redefining of what marriage is, is all about? Maybe Etemenanki is mere a sacred social (rather than religious) temple, serving as a monument where Babylonians celebrate new year festival.So now we are on maybe... Bross. I neva hear of social temple in the ancient world before o... You sha don't want to gree . Like I said, you've already dugged in too deep. SmilesNaa, seriously, I personally was hoping for a well grounded conversation where at the end of the day, we most likely wouldn't convince eachother because of our theological differences, but at the very least we both walk away from the conversation knowing a bit more about each others point of view. Its just so funny that you left all the places where the real conversation is to pitch your tent on the most self evident part, digging so deep to the point of denying normal english. At that point, the conversation turn to cruise. If you had said you believed the tower was a regular tower,not a ziggurat, we won't even have started this conversation in the first place Herodotus works are highly respected. However, a cogent review of his life and work suggested that there is no evidence, not a single one, that there is a shrine on the top of Etemenanki; and that he has never visited Babylon or the temple in his lifetime, hence is works though importance cannot be fully relied on. Same applies to Diodorus Siculus , who drew from the works of Ctesias of Cnidus, the scholar who founded on the Persian Royal Archives, base in works much on mythical and legendary viewpoint, rather than historicity. But the points from both writers can be used, with new archaeological findings, to design a caricature of what the city was like in the past.Boss , you are basically arguing against yourself. You were the one who brought up Herodotus not me, You were the one banking your entire position on Diodorus(which I seem to recall warning you against),not me. Anything I've said about them was only in response to you bringing them up....I've only been using primary sources so I don't know why you are giving the run down on who they are. And also nope, we really do not need greek historians to reconstruct the city's life in the past. As I said from the beginning we have 1000s of surviving primary sources(from contracts to legislation to priestly literatures etc) to do that. You sha pack English together . Besides this part who drew from the works of Ctesias of Cnidus, the scholar who founded on the Persian Royal ArchivesBros, what does this even mean? More again, Esarhaddon claim was found on the wall of Etemenanki ruins, that he built/rebuild the tower basement. This corroborates with the letter of Mar-Issar, a scholar, whose first role was certainly that of a scribe, working for Esarhaddon in Babylonia.Boss. You sha no won gree.lol . The funniest part is you will be attaching documents and links that I highly doubt you even open but you go sha dey attach them to make it sound like you know the material well, then you will now say see academic. Nearly all of them disagree with any statement you are trying buttress,so why you keep pasting them is an enigma to me. You said Esarhaddon was the one who originally built it, now you have changed it to built/rebuilt(pick a side). Small time, you go change am to rebuilt alone. Bross abeg die this matter, as I said you know the buzzwords, you really don't know the material. I seem to remember telling you this jamesid29https://www.nairaland.com/6057405/tower-babel-insight-into-space/5#93123213 Wetin I won spin, chief?, Which evidence sir. You don deny the only evidence you have for even believing that (Diodorus the Sicilian) after I've pointed out what he really wrote. This is even after I warned you severally that his position is not reliable. Secondly the E-sagil Tablet sparking architectural design na hin funny pass. Something that was only discovered at the end of the 19th century and was only interpreted fairly recently. Or Boss do you want to say we've only recently started building highrise buildings? Bros this conversation has turn to cruise, as twitter people will say. Check all my conversations on nairaland, you'll never see me using emoji like this but mehn..... Aside: shrine v temple Think of it this way.... A shrine is like an altar, where you have objects or relics associated with the figure being venerated. A shrine can be to an ancestor(s), hero, saint, deity or any venerated person or cause and it can be anywhere ,in a temple,at a cemetery, in a person's house etc. But a temple is basically the dwelling place of a god(think of it like a king's palace). Because of the vast variety of religions ranging from nontheistic to theistic, form and function vary. But for theistic religions especially in the ancient world,this is the basic idea. This is the most basic way I can explain it without speaking too much english sir... 1 Like |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 4:34pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
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Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:09pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Kukuma agree that the whole stories in the bible are comics. We done pass this one tay tay |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 10:36pm On Aug 28, 2020 |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 9:55am On Aug 31, 2020 |
jamesid29: I have gone into compromise with you, way past argument. Etemenanki is the dwelling house of Marduk, going by Diodorus claim that Marduk has a room, occupied with beds where a virgin lady climb into to have sex with Marduk. But really, there is no evidence to all of these, nor there is evidence that Etemenanki serves as a shrine. The only known shrine is Esagila. jamesid29: Sir, can you help your "source," by presenting evidences he proclaimed that there are additional two stories sanctuary/temple at top the already seven stories Ziggurat structure, making it nine stories building in total? jamesid29: Temple though may contain shrine(s) or not, doesn't makes it equivalent to shrine. Esagila is the shrine of Marduk, not Etemenanki. jamesid29: You should read and understand the statement before posting it here. It reads that Visiting temple does not necessarily mean one is there to worship God. When you admitted that a temple isn't necessarily a worship centre of God, why are you bent on forcing Etemenanki as the centre of worship of Marduk even when all evidences point to the fact that Esagila is the shrine of Marduk? Was there two shrines of Marduk in Babylon.? jamesid29: The drift wont work again. Court of law and marriage are both sacred institutions. The courthouse around the world are known as Temple of justice. These temples serves judicious and social responsibilities, with highly exception from religiosity. jamesid29: In the absence of empirical evidences pointing to the spiritual function of Etemenanki asides that ancient folks celebrate new year festival around it, then the best word to use to capture other social functions is "maybe". Needless to say, temples are not just sacred spaces, they are also secular spaces where political elites and kings draw political powers. It also serves as room of justices. And could be monumental edifice. jamesid29: What you call regular tower is know by the Babylonians as Ziggurat. Ziggurat implies a massive structure with a successively receding stories or levels. It has no spiritual undertone When you arguing from christian standpoint, you see and attribute everything to a deity and supernaturals. jamesid29: Remember me again who was it who dismissed Diodorus writings because he lived many years after Etemenanki was left in ruins, and wanted me to accept the work of Herodotus because he lived during the period when Etemenanki was standing. jamesid29: The legends narrated by Diodorus Siculus, who drew from the works of Ctesias of Cnidus. Ctesias of Cnidus was an historian, who founded the Persian Royal Archives. This person have a lot of resources at hand. jamesid29: I said in quite below The temple of Marduk in Babylon was called Esagila, "the temple that raises its head." It was built from the foundation to basement by Esarhaddon, king of the Neo-Assyrian Empire. And the construction was fully completed by Nebuchadnezzar II. In the context of Esarhaddon, I was talking about Esagila, not Etemenanki. And his claim corroborate with the royal inscription found on the temple ruins, and also from the letters from his scribe, Mar-Issar. That Nebuchadnezzar II completed it was found in the stele. It could be just a claim, but the fact is he made the claim and I stand by that claims. All ancient cities and structures were ascribed to Deity designs, Ile-Ife is a good example, as claim hold that Oduduwa established it. Legends could hold that Esagila was built by the Deities, but evidences from archaeological findings establish the Royal inscriptions by Esarhaddon, and letters from his scribe corroborating his claims. Here is a fresh reference https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/147232354.pdf jamesid29: Denied what, when and how? Abi you be the one battling to dismiss his claim on Etemenanki serving as astronomical viewpoint for observing stars? jamesid29: Discovered in the 19th centuries but the embedded knowledge in it went through millenniums into the past among the scribes and priests. Scribes and priests then were astronomers, engineers, politicians, physicists, architects, economists, and literature scholars. The knowledge was within elite circles only, and only passed down to initiated members and successors. The bible told us Tower of Babel was the first tower in the ancient days, and the design was imprinted on that tablet. jamesid29: Learning can be fun too na jamesid29: Honestly sir, when you agreed that shrine and temple are entirely different, I had played along to fully see if you understand that position. Shrine is the spot where worshiping, reverence and rituals take place. Even when shrines can be found or may necessarily not be found in a temple, it serves only the religion and spiritual functions. Temple on the other hand have just so many rooms for social, judicial, economic and political roles and functions. Temple came to be the legitimating institution of the ruling elite in the ancient past, not necessarily religious function. |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 12:13pm On Aug 31, 2020 |
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Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by Nobody: 12:33pm On Aug 31, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: FOLYKAZE, you will notice that the only purpose why most people like to talk is to justify whatever they choose to do, 99.99% of humans doesn't care about what will benefit Mankind as a whole! The Bible is a book given to mankind for the readjustment of our thinking towards achieving a global family of peace, whoever can't present, point, show, tell, speak of a GROUP performing well in this respect doesn't understand the book at all! This is not a paperwork where each person can just come and point to something for others to read in a book but finds it difficult to present something vivid (real) as a result of what we've learnt from the book! The Babel story talks about how God disrupted the work of the human society back then by confusing their language, but today the same God is uniting OBEDIENT individuals throughout the earth and they're working together as one family again. Anything short of that will amount to mere fruitless arguments on paperwork! |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by jamesid29(m): 6:32pm On Aug 31, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE:.... which comprise?... Brosss no vex say I dey laugh but mehn,this conversation is something else.... The way you are trying to rope me and Diodorus together is actually comical. Na you talk say the ziggurat was used for space exploration because Diodorus said so, FOLYKAZENow na you are arguing against him but making it look like you're arguing against me. . The switch is just really really funny. And no the idea that Etemenanki was the abode of marduk doesn't come from Diodorus but from Babylonian primary sources as attested to a temple being at the top and ziggurats being a well attested fixture in mesopotamia(every major city in mesopotamia had a temple complex with a ziggurat to the patron god/goddess of the city and some cities even had more than one: like Kish had three). Brossss, stop digging in into something so trivial. Sir, can you help your "source," by presenting evidences he proclaimed that there are additional two stories sanctuary/temple at top the already seven stories Ziggurat structure, making it nine stories building in total?.... Brossss, when I said you should read your very own sources well, you said..... First of all the paper and the quote is from your very own links The paper is under the "more research details" link. Secondly, Andrew George is one of the foremost Assyriologist in the world, so except you want to say you know more than him, I don't see you providing any rebuttal paper that contradicts him. Temple though may contain shrine(s) or not, doesn't makes it equivalent to shrine. Esagila is the shrine of Marduk, not Etemenanki.Bross.... why are you using english to confuse yourself like this. Pls read this again jamesid29And esagila was a temple... and yes shrines can be very plentiful. Brosss , you sha made sure you keep digging in sha You should read and understand the statement before posting it here. It reads that Visiting temple does not necessarily mean one is there to worship God.. Boss....Pls calm down and read this thing well. jamesid29Buddhism is fundamentally a nontheistics religion but even at that they still temples for spiritual purposes. You sha want to make shrine special and a temple into country club.. . This man... The drift wont work again. Court of law and marriage are both sacred institutions. The courthouse around the world are known as Temple of justice. These temples serves judicious and social responsibilities, with highly exception from religiosity.Which drift boss... . Marriage as a sacred institution comes the western worldview that marriage is instituted by God. That's why there's so much debate in the western world in the redefining of marriage laws... Court of law is not a sacred a institution, it's a legal institution sir. Courthouses are not known as temple of justice around the world sir, the people who say that use it in a metaphorical sense (just like saying land of greener pastures). Funny enough the people who use that phrase are mostly Nigerian journalists and a few Indian sources (two deeply religious nations)... Brosss, you went to Google to find loophole ... .And the temple of justice in the usa is just the name of the building in that was only built in 1920, so basically before then there was no justice in America... . Basically what you are doing is called a definition fallacy. This man. I just put temple of justice into Google, na so so Nigerian newspaper I dey see. You sha dey find loophole. In the absence of empirical evidences pointing to the spiritual function of Etemenanki asides that ancient folks celebrate new year festival around it, then the best word to use to capture other social functions is "maybe".Yes sir, Assyriologist FOLYKAZE... I'll be looking forward to reading your paper on this. I can actually recommend a couple of journals for you sir if need be Another funny thing the very page you did copy and paste for the @bolded "ancient folks celebrate New year festival around it" also has The Mesopotamian ziggurats were not places for public worship or ceremonies. They were believed to be dwelling places for the gods and each city had its own patron god. Only priests were permitted on the ziggurat or in the rooms at its base, and it was their responsibility to care for the gods and attend to their needs.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziggurat You left that part out like say you didn't see it... This conversation is pure cruise....The way you even made the statement with all seriousness.... Needless to say, temples are not just sacred spaces, they are also secular spaces where political elites and kings draw political powers. It also serves as room of justices. And could be monumental edifice.As opposed to shrines that are what sir... What you call regular tower is know by the Babylonians as Ziggurat. Ziggurat implies a massive structure with a successively receding stories or levels. It has no spiritual undertone.... Pure cruise When you arguing from christian standpoint, you see and attribute everything to a deity and supernaturals.... Brossss, how did we go from ancient mesopotamia to 21st century christainity. I always knew sooner or later,something like this was coming. Remember me again who was it who dismissed Diodorus writings because he lived many years after Etemenanki was left in ruins, and wanted me to accept the work of Herodotus because he lived during the period when Etemenanki was standing.Brossss . I don't even understand what going on this one. You were the one that brought up Diodorus, you were the one that brought up Herodotus. Where did I force you to accept Herodotus? . The only thing I said was if you are going to discredit Herodotus, then you automatically have to disqualify Diodorus, now you are moving left and right. .. this man The legends narrated by Diodorus Siculus, who drew from the works of Ctesias of Cnidus.So now it's legend ,no more history... I'm pretty sure you never really bothered to checkup who Ctesias was cos if you did you wouldn't make such a statement. Basically what you are saying is that ,all throughout the reign of Cyrus the Great,no one thought of keeping an archive. . Pure cruise Anyway this is the quote you are looking for: Ctesias was the author of treatises on rivers, and on the Persian revenues, of an account of India entitled Indica (Ἰνδικά), and of a history of Assyria and Persia in 23 books, called Persica (Περσικά), written in opposition to Herodotus in the Ionic dialect, and professedly founded on the Persian Royal Archives. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ctesias You missed the professedly part. Basically what it means is that he claimed that his work was[b] based on [/b]Persian archives not that he was the one that founded it. When I say you're just copying and pasting things without really trying to understand the actual material, it sounds like I'm just trying to be..... I said in quite belowThe fact that you don't even know that it doesn't matter which building you are talking about shows that you really don't know this material boss. It seems you don't even know that Assyria and Babylonia are two different nations. Esarhaddon was Assyrian bross, not Babylonian. It was Sennacherib(Esarhaddon's father) who destroyed the city and temple when Babylon was under Assyrian rule around the 6th century,just as Isreal and it's temple were destroyed during Babylonian rule over Isreal. When Esarhaddon got enthroned after his father, that's when he got to restoring the city's religious centers even though he never got around to finishing it... Esarhaddon never claimed to be the first person to build the temple, he only claimed to be the one to restore it. Bros, there's a big difference between someone rebuilding something and someone building it for the first time. You only rebuild something that was destroyed. Na this English thing na hin cause problems wey you still dey argue temple Vs shrine since. Bosss you no know this topic well, leave am. .... Brossss you go just dey post paper wey you no read. Pls whats the title of this paper you posted. Denied what, when and how? Abi you be the one battling to dismiss his claim on Etemenanki serving as astronomical viewpoint for observing stars?.... Yes sir , Assyriologist FOLYKAZE. This conversation is pure cruise Discovered in the 19th centuries but the embedded knowledge in it went through millenniums into the past among the scribes and priests. Scribes and priests then were astronomers, engineers, politicians, physicists, architects, economists, and literature scholars. The knowledge was within elite circles only, and only passed down to initiated members and successors. The bible told us Tower of Babel was the first tower in the ancient days, and the design was imprinted on that tablet.Oh so now we are in the realm of conspiracy theory.. . So they basically passed the knowledge down through a secret group all the way to modern architects but the tablet itself was lost. Makes sense sir Quick question. You said it was the tablet that sparked the architectural revolution but now it's not the tablet but the secret knowledge that has been passed down? Which one is it sir. Secondly sir, this secret group that sparked the architectural revolution with knowledge that was passed down before we discovered the tablet, are they affiliated with freemasons or two of them don't see eye to eye. Honestly sir, when you agreed that shrine and temple are entirely different, I had played along to fully see if you understand that position..... No comment sir. I see,you don add "entirely" to the matter. It is well my oga..... Anything you say from here on out I agree sir. You seem to be an expert all by yourself.. Weldon sir, I know having all this information all by yourself is not easy sir |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 8:52am On Sep 01, 2020 |
Maximus69: The Babel account according to the bible is fabricated tale, it parallel with history. |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by Nobody: 9:52am On Sep 01, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: Well Jehovah's Witnesses have proved beyond all reasonable doubt that it was a real event! Subjects like Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Geography, Agricultural Science, Account, Commerce, Economics have textbooks but all the textbooks and studying could only be considered useless if it's just about theories, without any practical application which will lead to benefits! Of course we're all reading the Babel story from an old book but a global family of peace loving worshipers got their motivation and inspiration from reading, studying, meditating and applying what they found in the BOOK! 1 Like |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by Nobody: 11:52am On Sep 01, 2020 |
I think you've been on Nairaland long enough to know all the rules! So if you feel like responding to my post just calm down and try choose words wisely so as to avoid being barred by the moderators. See you later! |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 3:26am On Sep 02, 2020 |
Maximus69:[img]https://s8/images/TowerOfBabel.jpg[/img] Real event indeed. On paper! Albeit Maximus69:[img]https://s8/images/DontThinkJW.png[/img] It has all come to the Bible, to now be cheaply seen & commonly regarded, as just like that, an old book. Smh. 1 Like |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:17am On Sep 03, 2020 |
Maximus69: Antispam bot don't follow rules. I wasn't banned for using abusive, insulting, or hateful words on this thread. Anti-spam bot works like a rabid dog sometimes. And Seun is not ready to tame his dog. The mod he employed monitoring this section, OAM4J, is just too docile. When Buzugee was a mod and issue like this pop up, you only need to send a mail to him and he will let you out of the hook. Something like this has happened to me twice, got clipped by spam bot, and I mailed OAM4J and Seun but they were both not responsive or awaken to their duty. But wetin man go do to a stray dog when it charmer is inactive. The said post waste meant for you either. The world don't revolve around you friend |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:21am On Sep 03, 2020 |
Maximus69: Tortoise story has some in grain of morality which are used for coexistence. The standard of the story doesn't change it nature from been fable |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:25am On Sep 03, 2020 |
Hopefully Anti-spam bot won't ban me again for responding to this post. I will edit when I am at home jamesid29: |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by Nobody: 12:58pm On Sep 03, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: Each person will live and get the benefits of what he/she believes! Micah 4:5 |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by MuttleyLaff: 8:35pm On Sep 03, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE:That's a sign warning you that you are swimming against the tide, critical thinking and informed knowledge Research and relay information will tell and let you know that the Migdal Bavel was never physically built FOLYKAZE: Maximus69:We have verses in Old Testament (e.g. Psalm 9:17 et cetera) suggesting that the wicked go to Sheol but it actually was Yahushua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, in the New Testament, who with shedding more light on the subject, brought things into their proper and clearer perspective for us, when He shared the hyperbolic illustration of Sheol, with the story of the Rich Man, being elsewhere and then Abraham, with the Poor Man, being on a different side. Remember that, just like because you're telling a joke, it doesnt necessarily mean, the joke is devoid of some element of truth and reality in it, so is the case with the parable of the rich man and poor man, or even FOLYKAZE's tortoise story |
Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:22pm On Sep 13, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Hello Muttley. I sent you a mail from folaboladiye@yahoo.com. Please its urgent, check and respond through that addy |
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Re: Tower Of Babel, An Insight Into Space Exploration And Architectural Revolution by jalodo2: 9:54pm On Jul 01, 2021 |
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