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Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by mikedeoye(m): 7:49pm On Apr 12, 2011 |
@ Am Alone, I will definately do my own negotiations before Buying and i assure you i will get it cheaper. The info im trying to get from you is part of my market survey, I'm also going to check some other places before settling on where to Buy. Pls what type of Tywford brand ( set of WC and Basin) did u get for the 30K (i mean the name). I know u said u got the Tywford Envy for 80K. U forgot to drop the Seller's contact again. Pls drop his details here for me. One last question, how do i differentiate the fake from the Original? Thanks |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 7:52pm On Apr 12, 2011 |
DCGUY: I won't lie to you, BUT FIRST I GIVE GOD ALL THE GLORY!!!! The carpenters were not the best!!!! If Not For GOD's Intervention those guys would have killed me at the site ooo I had to shout and shout and shout!!!! I am very sorry, I cannot recommend them to anyone I had to use my own sense to stop them from jeopardizing the whole job. Again the round pillars took the carpenter 4 to 5 days to get it right(I kept correcting him!). Though I know how to follow him up! But I don't think everybody can. Now if you ask again you will get it! I leave it there. . . . |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:00pm On Apr 12, 2011 |
mikedeoye: Bros, na there is go know say soup wey sweet na money kill am!!! Like I said earlier, the guy was introduced to me by someone!!!! My main goal is quality, not quantity!!!! You can never cheat them. And again, we have varieties of twyford envy lol!!! BROS you may think you are saving money!!!! I don't have the name of the 30k twyford ooo! But you can see the pic!!! I have stated it earlier! I bought a sink for 23k with 15yr warranty!!! and I saw the same zinc in the market for 9k5 no warranty on it and look very okay and again I saw another one(dont know the price) looks more like fake with a 5yr warranty!! All same Topaz Kitchen Basin!!!! If you won spend money!!!! You go get the best!!! Them go chop you no how, but make e just no too much!!!! If you no won spend money!!!! Na there you go begin buy fake things thinking say you dey buy the best Again I still beleive say Nobody go sell twyford envy 2008 for 50k for you!!!!(but if you see am and na original abeg let me know!!!!) Peace!!!! |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:01pm On Apr 12, 2011 |
Again me no fit differnciate fake from original na them dey know. You can take a trusted plumber with you i did that but it seems the plumber was against moi! Peace!!! |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by mikedeoye(m): 8:05pm On Apr 12, 2011 |
Am Alone: |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:14pm On Apr 12, 2011 |
Mixer is that tap that work with your bath tub!!! Mine was 15k. There are some that goes for as low as 300 naira!!! The difference is far too much man. So when I went back to the market the next day, I went to price that same mixer and it went for 16k plus. One of the things that brought the price of fiitings down again was after they gave me the total cash, I still price base on discount and I got a discount of 50k(guess the money came out from all those pricess that was inflated) Okay again, the tap I bought for the bathroom pedestral was 15k Here I believe I most have being ripped off. Thought its original with a 5yr warranty but I think it was suppose to be like 5k or 7k at most. I never confirmed the price anyways. The brand name is Mmaat! But bros above all, SHINE YOU EYES BECAUSE IT AIN'T EASY |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:16pm On Apr 12, 2011 |
There Is A Great Deal Of Joy In Original/Quality Things. . . . You that have the money -- Enjoy! You that have it by fate!!! -- Enjoy Too! GOD IS GOD nnem! |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:24pm On Apr 12, 2011 |
Here are the updates on my project!!! I have paid the bricklayer and extra 5k for the jobs as a compensation because the contract did not pay him for 25k at all As a matter of fact, he ran into a dept of 12,500 with the labour he employed to work with him and it hasn't being easy for him I really felt for him and have to give him 5k to support him self He has been battling the work for 11days now, and still have 2 more days to work there!!! Also, he has being working from 7am to 7pm(which is above a normal day work) Even at 30k for that design, I believe I still did great considering the type of job that was done there -- Perfet! Supposing I was paying him per day job, we won't be working 7 to 7 it would be around 8 to 5 at most. And sometimes, he may even work till 4 and close for the day that is Lagos job for you! And that would have cost me more. And estimate of that would be around 55k. Considering the fact that you need only one bricklayer and one labour to give you the perfect job. If you use two bricklayers, you may save 7k5 but the hand won't be desame and you know my policy! Quality first, and the others can follow. . . . Mikedeoye, Don't get me wrong, you can do better than me! I don't have anybody to give me some info about this stuffs before I went there. If you want more info, holla @! your boy! |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 8:42pm On Apr 12, 2011 |
Total Cash Spent So Far Is: =N=4,742,870 During the time the bricklayer used to plaster the designs, rain fell trice. So I believe the soligum I used to treat the wood must have been washed away. . . So I want to buy soligum and kerosine and pay 1,000 to treat the wood again Thought it may not be necessary, but I don't want to take chances!!!! Soligum 3,000 labour --1,000 kerosine-3000 Total-----7k Net Total Of Cash Spend So Far: [i]=N=4,742,870[/i] |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Nobody: 3:55am On Apr 13, 2011 |
aasog: does the 23.7million cost include land? Would you be kind enough to give us a break down of the cost? I am really interested in your cost ! |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by Nobody: 5:06am On Apr 13, 2011 |
Will get to that later in the day sir. The land is in Bariga sir. Land there alone cost 8-10 million or more. So it doesnt. And 2 bedroom in the area is worth roughly 250k or more, depending on how soon you want the flats occupied. @AmAlone & Spyder I dont know if you are encouraging a DIY: Do it Yourself for all the people here. Is that professional at all? Im sorry, but sincerely, this is going beyond mere advertisements. |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by spyder880(m): 7:01am On Apr 13, 2011 |
aasog1: I am not a professional builder, and didnt read an engineering related course back at school, but I am an investor in lands and houses for nearly 13 years and have a first hand experience about all my houses built. I still have an engineer am paying to interprete the areas I dont know. I urge anybody that wants to try to read this thread, make their conclusions and hire a professional, together they can get a fantastic building done perfectly. |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by kuntash: 7:09am On Apr 13, 2011 |
aasog1: , how many Nigerians can go for the likes of construction companies? lest how many professionally built houses are available therein na wa O!! |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by sonety2k(m): 7:13am On Apr 13, 2011 |
Posted by: spyder880 Blocks are the cheapest of all the materials contained in any house, especially considering the size and spaces they cover in your building. Blocks are just a mixture of sand, cement and water. The higher the cement you add into the mix, the richer and stronger your blocks will turn out to be. I am very blessed, in the building industry, I have people, friends, relatives and associates that handle one aspect of building or the other. I have three friends that operate block industries for a living. I have a tenant who moulds blocks manually for a living, I also have several others who either worked as block makers or tipper drivers that always advice me on the best of sands, the best of cement to use in block making and the expected yield in every size of block. I know so much about blocks that my brother once adviced me to clear one of my empty plots and establish a block industry which will be supplying my block needs. Let me not bore you people with more block stories but, I have used all types of blocks, machine made, vibrated, handmade, etc. Before I continue, how many of us have visited a block industry and witnessed blocks being vibrated? I have been there many time and eaten lunches while my blocks were being made. It will surprise you all if I tell you that the vibration technology is not an absolute success. Maybe you need to visit a block industry and see the number of vibrated blocks that break and spoil both when it is being made and after. Also visit a site using vibrated blocks and see if they dont break to pieces. For those who can understand where am driving at, IT IS NOT THE WAY THE BLOCK WAS MADE THAT SAYS IF IT IS STRONGER, IT IS THE MIX, just like in every other thing. I use hand made blocks because I love to. They are stronger for me, if you notice, there were not many broken blocks in my site. Try it with the blocks you bought and see the result for yourself. The vibrated blocks myth has since been broken years ago, I wonder why we are even wasting time on that dead topic. Like I alwways said, it is your columns, beams and pillars that carry your house. Blocks only demarcate the rooms and cover it up. Use the type of block you want and enjoy your house. Whatever you do, make your own decisions, the time has gone when you just fleece prospective house owners with one fancy terminology meant to confuse people. Now, do we revisit the issue of hollow block versus solid blocks? Anyone? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please i will like to know all the major difference between hollow block versus Solid Block , and which one is best among them thanks |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by spyder880(m): 7:17am On Apr 13, 2011 |
@ Am alone, that solignum tratment is sometimes not reliable o. The last roofing I did, the whole woods were painted with solignum and a little qty of kerosene. Do you know that termites started eating the wood that were still packed on the ground waiting to be used for the roof? The termites ate even the painted parts with blackened solignum. Afraid catch me! |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 7:26am On Apr 13, 2011 |
spyder880: Spyder lol. . . . Thank you very much!!!! But you know there was something my Carpenter told me He said if you buy a bad wood, no matter the amount of Soligum you add to it, it is still useless!!!! Because you will need to get a very gud wood first, before you can start to think of treating it. Then again he recommend I use the white one. When I went to the market, I couldn't find it. Anyways, I will have to go and find it ooo --- By firE By Force!!! Thank man |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by kuntash: 7:30am On Apr 13, 2011 |
@ sonety2k, use anyone u like, but I would advice u supervise in either case. if u prefer hollow blocks and require a considerable amount, u can bargain the block machine to be @ ur site, buy the materials and agree on how many blocks to be given u from a bag. |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 7:44am On Apr 13, 2011 |
omonuan: 23.7million excluding land for a block of 12, 2 bedroom flat in Lagos. This I guess should be estimated to 2m per every 2bedroom flat right? Considering the quality materials being used, Supposing this was a four bedroom flat I guess so far spent can be estimated to 4million right? Now if I put this into considerations I think I am really doing great! Considering the beauty an extra money has cost me for the house, like the 'gutter roof' ---- 500k like the plumbing materail ----700k Considering the extra money spent so far on woods for the roof. . . . considering the height of my building that cost me extra blocks. . . . Cosidering the fact that this omorile has collect over 200k so far considering the fact that approval cost 160k(heard some ppl can do it for 110 in lagos without C of O) I thin I'm kind of doing great! A friend dad that built a 4bedroom bugalow 3 years ago spend a total of 5million(including tiles) it was just a nice and average/mid-class looking house Ilovemyhouse! Peace |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by spyder880(m): 8:14am On Apr 13, 2011 |
Am Alone: I dont think termites has any respect for good wood or bad. If so, we go out and buy good wood and forget about treating them since termites target only bad woods. I think we need to explore new ways of treating these woods. Like the white type you are talking about. My carpenter once used a chemical mixture to treat a house for me, he just sprayed the whole wood after it was ready for roofing sheets to be fixed. |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by myangel1(m): 8:25am On Apr 13, 2011 |
Hey Am Alone, So far you spend this amount from the foundation to roofing now? Net Total Of Cash Spend So Far: =N=4,742,870 are you sure.Please can you give me your cell number or your email add. |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by mikedeoye(m): 9:13am On Apr 13, 2011 |
Am Alone!!! Thanks for all the info. Infact you have done more than enough. Pls let me have the contact details of the guy that sold the twyford to you. I need that urgently pls. thanks |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by spyder880(m): 9:19am On Apr 13, 2011 |
@sonety2k, I must confess that the two types of block has no real advantages over the other except when you are building special structures. For me, I like to do the first floor in any house am building with solid blocks, but there is no real problem with hollow. I use hollow blocks for the upstairs units. I also do my septic tanks with solid blocks, no need pouring concrete when the soil is dry. Another observation I have made is that hollow blocks collapsed on me on a day heavy rain interrupted things on a site I built 2 years ago. The base was not wide enough so rain just washed off the wet mortar and the whole things came crashing. It wouldnt happen with solid blocks as we noticed in a site I built last year. When heavy rains came, I sped down from a nearby town, buying up nylon sheets to cover the job going on but arrived late. The sides were washed but the blocks remained standing due to the base were not washed off. That is one of the advantages of solid blocks. Use hollow blocks if you like, I will use it in the upper part of my duplex. It is even cheaper because it requires less cement and sand to produce. If a bag of cement gives you 35 solid blocks of 6", the same bag can give you 42 hollow blocks of 6". |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by 2dmax(m): 12:05pm On Apr 13, 2011 |
@midas 02, can i have your email address? @ all, do get your best qoutes for electrical wires and cables from maxndianaefo@yahoo.com, also read builders andd developer wise up! at the property section. |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by spyder880(m): 12:16pm On Apr 13, 2011 |
kuntash: Building your house yourself is a fulfilling experience, but ask for advice where you dont understand the processes. There are so many advantages of staying around while your house is done, I had to close a door that I didnt like in my house, modified my kitchen and opened a door where I needed to create a passage. All these you could do, and have the pride to tell friends about it when the house is built and you are drinking champagne with loved ones. The do-it-yourself approach is good especially if you have the time. |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by egin(m): 12:22pm On Apr 13, 2011 |
2dmax:Can you provide the link to the builders and developers wise up? |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 1:02pm On Apr 13, 2011 |
@ Mike Name: Rotimi Numba: 08066619493 Please do not tell him from moi Just call him and say from a friend because using my influence may affect the prices Enjoy!!!! |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by AmAlone: 1:09pm On Apr 13, 2011 |
my angel: Yes! I am very sure! And it includes, all the pipping & fittings for my toilets, all the burglaries for the house, well, soak-away pit And some other things sha! Let say so far what you can see there I have spent a total of 3.7million! the others have not yets be fixed or are not in the picture yet! I think I am doing very great!! Peace!!! |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by kuntash: 1:37pm On Apr 13, 2011 |
^^^^ wrt ur posts on this thread, your bargaining power seem shaky @ the early stage, thus some people like me saw it as money miss road person building a house and willing to bulldoze any obstacle relating to cash. from your posts lately, it appears u r gaining confidence and the negotiating prowess is increasing, this is a natural phenomenon unless the person na mumu. wish u luck! |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by sonety2k(m): 2:27pm On Apr 13, 2011 |
kuntash: Thanks spyder880: Thanks and have a niceday at work |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by spyder880(m): 2:32pm On Apr 13, 2011 |
kuntash: Honestly, the guy is improving rapidly. It happens to most of us, the first house I built, the supervisor took me to the cleaners and ever since then, I have learnt my lessons. Always remember that whatever has been done before could be done better today, at a cheaper rate. Never buy at the first place you want to, and dont keep a single customer/supplier or workman. |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by yinka85: 3:01pm On Apr 13, 2011 |
spyder880: True,that. In other words,you set up a competition amongst them,and the best quality of their products/handworks will come out naturally and at some very reasonable prices. Remember they need you as much as you need them. And lastly,don´t forget about referals.They dont mess with that. |
Re: The Real Cost Of Building A Six Bedroom Duplex by manie(m): 3:35pm On Apr 13, 2011 |
These are the pictures of my little place at Abijo Lagos. A three bed room bungalow. So far we have spent a little over Three million. Work will start on the plumbing, wiring and painting before the end of the end of the year. 1 Like
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