Joemetry:


The problem with our people abroad is that they want you to be dependent on them.

Like I had a guy we hustled together here hoping to gather enough to move out but always getting the no from the visa issuers.

Now his elder brother got lucky and a friend of his helped him move to the UK and the elder brother eventually helped him move.

All the arrangement was do before he told me 4 days to his movement.

Now he promised to also help me move ooo, but all he does is £20, £50 to my friends PayPal for 3 or 4 of us.

When I beg him to help me move he'll say God's time is the best.

Fear humans!!!

I am not giving up though.

But how exactly do you want your friend to help you move? He is not your father, brother or son. He can't sponsor you under the immigration family act. And unless your friend is a citizen or permanent resident of the UK making considerable amount of money, he will not be able to sponsor you to come over on some student visa either because those are really your only two options except you find a British woman to marry.

Getting papers in most countries of the world especially in this day and age is not easy. Many countries around the world are enacting tough immigration policies. Sometimes, it takes years just to regularise your stay. In other words, become eligible for permanent residency. You think it's easy? Besides, no foreign country owes you their visa, permanent residency or citizenship so stop acting so entitled.

When a foreign country approves you for their papers, be grateful because it is a privilege, not a right. You only have right to one country and that is Nigeria. Any other country is not an extension of your fatherland or motherland. Let's keep that in mind as Nigerians.

even some rich nigerian that are better than those abroad , would look at you some how and say watin you bring come, how much do you have?

doeeyed:


Easily done

If shackled under by very entitled relatives.

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You can't send what you don't have

Jaqenhghar:

Who said it is heaven?
Alaye no dey talk wetin I no talk. If english dey hard you abeg get person to interpret am for you

You dey talk like say dem beg you to come.

which English is hard? you called this imbalance grammar full of grammatical errors English?


be in your abroad and let me be in my Nigeria, how is that hard to understand

skimena:
Many people in Nigeria think all is well with everyone living abroad especially those in Europe.

It's sad that many don't even want to know what you are doing for a living or if you even have accommodation.

Many don't care if you have eaten or if u even have the necessary documents to move around to work. The moment they call their loved once they start laying their complains and expect u to meet all their expectations. Failure to do so, they tag u with different names such as being wicked, stingy etc.

This has pushed alot of people Abroad to engage in all sorts of illegal deals to raise funds to meet family needs. But when yawa will gas u will be left alone to carry the cross. Inside Life

Why are you complaining? Whose fault is it that you lack the courage, the backbone, the wherewithall to say 'NO'? Whose fault is it that at your age, you have not learned how to set boundaries? Whose fault is it that at your age, you haven't learned that most human beings don't care about anyone else but themselves and only keep you in their lives for their own selfish benefits especially Nigerians?

The day you understand the above about human beings, you will learn to put your own needs and well-being first and when you do, you will be better for it.

Whatsapp allows you to block people. There are Android phones today that allows you to block numbers of people whose calls and text messages you no longer want to receive. I am currently using one of such devices. Why can't you block people who only see you as nothing more than a meal ticket or an ATM machine?

But you and I both know the reason why. You have low self esteem and self worth. Your self worth is tied to people liking and accepting you. So you go out of your way to please people even if it is to your own detriment because you are desperate for acceptance and validation. You want people to look up to you so you are willing to do more than you can actually do financially speaking so your family and friends will like you and reign praises on you.

My advice to you is: Seek Help! Understand that most people in today's world only care about themselves and will only use you for their own hustle and that includes family members as well. Once they can't get anything from you anymore, they will dump you. So be wise like a serpent!

Godtemi:


Good
Is not better to do menial job and school the same time in a good institution with good security?
Than to graduate here and still be earning 30k monthly while your life is not safe from agbero, kidnapers, Boko Haram and SAR

Poor power supply that you paid for and did not use
Poor health. I lost my pregnant beautiful immediate senior sister because of useless quack graduate doctor in general hospital

To be is better I pay for education that's it worth it
It better I pay for tax that will give me good health insurance
It's better i work for my money and not be afraid of agbero and kidnapers and SAR

You avoided answering the question, but that's okay.

I am so, so sorry to hear about the demise of your elder sister.

HeavenlyHolines:
Kazakhstan

Enjoy oo. Don't come back oo

haha! funny!

Queenslander:
Oga tell them to return home if living abroad isn't good for them.. As long as they're abroad, we will continue to call them..

Queenslander:
Oga tell them to return home if living abroad isn't good for them.. As long as they're abroad, we will continue to call them..

This ignorant state of mind is the reason why most smart folks living abroad have permanently blocked all Nigerian phone numbers on their contact list; you don't miss what you don't know.

Hahaha. Nigeria better for pass here na because we no sabi use wetin God give us

Zeecos:

Enjoy oo. Don't come back oo

Hmmm

Well said. The way they demand money is getting too much.

When and where did this rumor start that Nigerians in the diaspora are not doing okay and are stingy with their money? I can only speak from what I see and know, and this is it. The vast majority of Nigerians I know in the U.S. are professionals doing okay for themselves, and there are lots of them in the big cities. They own their homes, live well, build or buy houses in Nigeria and support their kin back home especially their parents. The trend now with people with aged parents in Nigeria is to hire full time 24/7 care for their parents and also provide an allowance. The average amount of allowance I am aware of is about 2 milllion Naira a year, spread out on a monthly basis. The majority of successful diasporans do not talk about their success and don't need to.

emkz:
I remember when I lived abroad and was unfortunate to be in a relationship with someone back home. She calculated my earnings, deducted the costs of my rent, fuel and feeding, and requested I sent her the rest. She wanted to spend it on a lavish lifestyle to impress people and on her new relationship since I wasn't around.

When I returned to Nigeria, I fed better, lived better and had savings. Many of the folks back home fail to realise that many abroad work multiple jobs to live fairly comfortably and the taxes are high. I knew a man who worked as a taxi driver during the day and in the restaurant at night, I knew many who sold drugs, I saw some who worked as cleaners in the mornings and in care homes in the afternoons, there were some whose jobs were looking for customers to cut or braid their hair, even some who picked plastic bottles to sell and many of the women in prostitution. They would go to discount shops to purchase clothes at a bargain and some even go to second-hand shops. Then someone in Nigeria would send a message for money to make downpayment for iPhone 16.

I hope you aren't trying to paint a gloomy picture of living in the abroad?

Well, in as much as I am not disputing all what you wrote up there, there are categories of people living in the abroad, Canada to be precise.

There are two categories of Nigerians living in Canada- it's either you're a permanent resident (PR) or of a refugee status. It was very funny, and I was very surprised, when I met a Nigerian for the first time in Canada and he was asking me "where you pass enter...", and I am like, "Ha ha, where else I wan pass enter, no be airport" ? It was later I learnt that there are two routes to Canada as a Nigerian- through the airport as a PR, or through the border post, Ruxton Road, as a refugee and protected persons. These are the kind of people you have described up there.

For the record, most Nigerian who came into Canada as a PR are professionals, as in professionals. They are engineers, accountants, IT professionals and what have you. It is the frustration in the Nigerian system that made some of us to leave. Some of us left because we want the best for our children. We left so that our children will not be carrying the green passport all around, thus denying them opportunities from anywhere around the world. Mind you, it is a big sacrifice we made for our children. In case you care to know, some of us leaves six digits salary work at Chevron, Total, NNPC, KPMG, etc to start all over again at the lowest rung of the ladder.

In addition, that one drives uber or taxi in Canada does not mean one isn't doing well. I know Nigerians have a warped mind set about dignity of labor. There are people that drives Uber in Canada and they have their own mortgage apartment. You need to see the guy that clean the toilet at Mississauga Square One, you go wonder shay na person wey dey clean toilet be this?! But the nobody send you o, because no be you go pay their bill. The cleaner in my office drives a 2018 Honda CRV, the kind we call first grade tokunbo in Lagos. I don't think I have ever boarded an Uber car brand beyond 2018 since my stay here as a PR. As a matter of fact, I once boarded a 2020 Benz as Uber rider.

In conclusion, what I am trying to say is there is an exception to the rule as you have posited, particularly in Canada, except for those of refugee or protected persons status. Finally, my advise is anyone travelling to the abroad should go with the right papers, pass airport enter and receive your "Welcome to Canada" or wherever it is greetings. Peace!

EgunMogaji2:


The thing is I can not recommend nor discourage anyone from traveling out. It’s a personal choice. When I left Nigeria was good, very good and those of us then weren’t economic migrants. We went in search of education and to come back. Regrettably I’m one of the few that didn’t come back immediately after graduation.

If my postings feels like I’m discouraging people not to travel then I apologize because that’s not the intent. The intent is to support those that choose to stay or don’t have the resources to go. I want them to feel good and remember that many that didn’t go are living successful life here.

May our blessings reach us wherever we’re at and we live life in good health. Amin.

Good Evening Sir,

I have read your story and position about migrating and we share the same ideology but I am just a bit curious and have few questions for you:

- Did you study abroad?

- If 'Yes', to what level?

- What kind of job(s) did you do whilst in the US?

- Was(were) the job(s) favourable in terms of earnings?

- Did you get married there?

- If 'No', why not?...especially as it is a straight ticket to being a citizen.

and finally...

- Why did you decide to leave?

I just want to draw from your wealth of experience.

Thanks for your anticipated response.

Very good questions. I guess it depends on who people move with. While there are Nigerians doing low-level jobs and getting by well. There are also tons of us that have worked in corporate America (IT for me) for donkey years! Right after college. There is hardly any of major company here in the USA tat does not have Nigerians there. I run into Nigerians daily when I was working in downtown Chicago. Pretty much majority of my own circle are all professionals, all working in Corporate America. So, I guess it depends on what people came to do here in the first case. If you've come here to go to college, you do your part, play your cards well, you will certainly be living the American dream. The opportunities are here, and one just has to go and grab it! It will not be handed to you.

TheKingIsHere:


How come all the years abroad you never knew any Nigerian that was a doctor, nurse, IT specialist, engineer, or teaching?

How come you only knew the ones working as cleaners, drivers or drug sellers?

Your story sounds silly to me

Whenever I feel a little bit depressed, I will just come to nairaland and laugh it off.. Comments are bomb.

Queenslander:
Oga tell them to return home if living abroad isn't good for them.. As long as they're abroad, we will continue to call them..

I like your sense of entitlement lol.

mbhs139:



I hope you aren't trying to paint a gloomy picture of living in the abroad?

Well, in as much as I am not disputing all what you wrote up there, there are categories of people living in the abroad, Canada to be precise.

There are two categories of Nigerians living in Canada- it's either you're a permanent resident (PR) or of a refugee status. It was very funny, and I was very surprised, when I met a Nigerian for the first time in Canada and he was asking me "where you pass enter...", and I am like, "Ha ha, where else I wan pass enter, no be airport" ? It was later I learnt that there are two routes to Canada as a Nigerian- through the airport as a PR, or through the border post, Ruxton Road, as a refugee and protected persons. These are the kind of people you have described up there.

For the record, most Nigerian who came into Canada as a PR are professionals, as in professionals. They are engineers, accountants, IT professionals and what have you. It is the frustration in the Nigerian system that made some of us to leave. Some of us left because we want the best for our children. We left so that our children will not be carrying the green passport all around, thus denying them opportunities from anywhere around the world. Mind you, it is a big sacrifice we made for our children. In case you care to know, some of us leaves six digits salary work at Chevron, Total, NNPC, KPMG, etc to start all over again at the lowest rung of the ladder.

In addition, that one drives uber or taxi in Canada does not mean one isn't doing well. I know Nigerians have a warped mind set about dignity of labor. There are people that drives Uber in Canada and they have their own mortgage apartment. You need to see the guy that clean the toilet at Mississauga Square One, you go wonder shay na person wey dey clean toilet be this?! But the nobody send you o, because no be you go pay their bill. The cleaner in my office drives a 2018 Honda CRV, the kind we call first grade tokunbo in Lagos. I don't think I have ever boarded an Uber car brand beyond 2018 since my stay here as a PR. As a matter of fact, I once boarded a 2020 Benz as Uber rider.

In conclusion, what I am trying to say is there is an exception to the rule as you have posited, particularly in Canada, except for those of refugee or protected persons status. Finally, my advise is anyone travelling to the abroad should go with the right papers, pass airport enter and receive your "Welcome to Canada" or wherever it is greetings. Peace!

God bless you for this �

HeavenlyHolines:
Hahaha. Nigeria better for pass here na because we no sabi use wetin God give us

That's just it. Most Nigerians that are complaining that life is hard abroad will rather be there than come back to Nigeria because at least the system works and everything is as it should be even if it is hard to amass riches

TheKingIsHere:


How come all the years abroad you never knew any Nigerian that was a doctor, nurse, IT specialist, engineer, or teaching?

How come you only knew the ones working as cleaners, drivers or drug sellers?

Your story sounds silly to me

I just ignored him
My advice for any Nigerian that want to travel abroad are
1. Go through study visa
2. If not study visa, God via work visa
3. Or via Immigration visa

As a student, study hard and be focus.
I can bet you that no Nigeria university can be compare with any university in shengen country or Canada, UK and USA. DON'T ASK ME, Google it

Finally, learn any lucrative Skill like data analyst or computer science related skill or medical professional (nursing).. live simple, spend little and save more for your future and pray for God's Mercy and bless.
It will surely end with praise

.

Let me reach there first.
Abeg make people dey call me wella.

mbhs139:



I hope you aren't trying to paint a gloomy picture of living in the abroad?

Well, in as much as I am not disputing all what you wrote up there, there are categories of people living in the abroad, Canada to be precise.

There are two categories of Nigerians living in Canada- it's either you're a permanent resident (PR) or of a refugee status. It was very funny, and I was very surprised, when I met a Nigerian for the first time in Canada and he was asking me "where you pass enter...", and I am like, "Ha ha, where else I wan pass enter, no be airport" ? It was later I learnt that there are two routes to Canada as a Nigerian- through the airport as a PR, or through the border post, Ruxton Road, as a refugee and protected persons. These are the kind of people you have described up there.

For the record, most Nigerian who came into Canada as a PR are professionals, as in professionals. They are engineers, accountants, IT professionals and what have you. It is the frustration in the Nigerian system that made some of us to leave. Some of us left because we want the best for our children. We left so that our children will not be carrying the green passport all around, thus denying them opportunities from anywhere around the world. Mind you, it is a big sacrifice we made for our children. In case you care to know, some of us leaves six digits salary work at Chevron, Total, NNPC, KPMG, etc to start all over again at the lowest rung of the ladder.

In addition, that one drives uber or taxi in Canada does not mean one isn't doing well. I know Nigerians have a warped mind set about dignity of labor. There are people that drives Uber in Canada and they have their own mortgage apartment. You need to see the guy that clean the toilet at Mississauga Square One, you go wonder shay na person wey dey clean toilet be this?! But the nobody send you o, because no be you go pay their bill. The cleaner in my office drives a 2018 Honda CRV, the kind we call first grade tokunbo in Lagos. I don't think I have ever boarded an Uber car brand beyond 2018 since my stay here as a PR. As a matter of fact, I once boarded a 2020 Benz as Uber rider.

In conclusion, what I am trying to say is there is an exception to the rule as you have posited, particularly in Canada, except for those of refugee or protected persons status. Finally, my advise is anyone travelling to the abroad should go with the right papers, pass airport enter and receive your "Welcome to Canada" or wherever it is greetings. Peace!

Far from it bros. I have never been to Canada, but I have friends who entered through the express entry route. A few were in the category of the professionals you mentioned and are doing very well: one of them is already talking of taking a mortgage. Another one, though doing very well, is already talking of bailing as soon as he gets what he wants (he is not wired for the environment). I am not trying to discourage anyone; in subsequent posts where some people were condescending, I explained that many rush without a concrete plan and these are the ones that I am most concerned for. Research the country you are going and try to get the legal status required. Canada has made this easy for professionals through the express entry. But seeing our people risking their lives through the desert, dying in their quest for a life of uncertainty, being ferried across the Mediterranean with the boat capsizing sometimes, getting arrested at the port of entry and hurled to immigration centers for deportation, being transported in refrigerated trucks or fighting for refugee status hurts me. I don't see the need for such a risk and would advise against it. If you have no plan, stay in your country.

As to the dignity of labour you mentioned, far be it from me to undignify anyone's hustle. At some point, I considered being a security man myself and I am sure I'd have loved it if it paid my bills. I have also seen a garbage man driving a BMW 5 Series in one of the developed countries, so I know you are saying the truth. My emphasis is that our folks (including the professionals) abroad work hard for everything they have: those who work in management consulting/audit sometimes work up to 80-120 hours per week, the nurses put in long hours, the doctors see a lot of patients and may not necessarily have the time to enjoy their money, the engineers/miners sometimes go to remote locations far from home to work, those in the academia spend a lot of time writing research proposals to get grants in addition to teaching, supervising research, mentoring students and other administrative work that may affect family time. When I did my investigation, I found out that those guys calling people to cut their hair or braid can earn up to minimum wage. Those doing black work also earn a lot...until they are caught. My point is that it's not easy for professionals or non-professionals, and folks back home need to take it easy on these relatives abroad.

Ategberoson:



which English is hard? you called this imbalance grammar full of grammatical errors English?


be in your abroad and let me be in my Nigeria, how is that hard to understand

Alaye true true english dey hard you. You dey talk like say dem tie rope for your neck dey drag you come abroad
We dey do comparison. Nobody say na heaven , nobody say carry load by force begin come abroad na you siddon for corner dey misyarn.

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lefulefu:
not everybody abroad has poverty stricken needy relations or parents
and everyone"s duty should be to his parents and his immediate siblings
if u have distant realtions who are self entitled or needy pls block them
u dont owe them anytime
the time ur parents were probably sponsoring u in a foreign school over the dere wat were d socalled relations doing?
again ur duty is to ur parents and ur immediate siblings
anybody other than that disurbing ur peace peace of mind block that person
good thing facebook and whatsap has block buttons
u owe nobody any explanation for exhortion

You are right,
I have an uncle, when I was struggling during my undergraduate, visited Yola from Unimaid then instead of alots on transport to go to KD, thinking I have a relative nearby let me go and spend the short break with them, the man didn't see me as anything, only the wife that was happy to see me when I went, he was even telling why I didn't go to KD to spend the holiday with my parents, immediately I have to contact my coursemate who is staying in Yola, I went to stay with him in their house b4 I left for Cameroon.

Imagine, now that I am in Asia doing my postgraduate study, I am not working but he think I do and have money now, he sent my brother to give me his contact number to call him.

I told my brother to tell him, if he is on whatsapp I will call him but if not, can't call him. If he want us to greet let him call me.

41lady:


You are right,
I have an uncle, when I was struggling during my undergraduate, visited Yola from Unimaid then instead of alots on transport to go to KD, thinking I have a relative nearby let me go and spend the short break with them, the man didn't see me as anything, only the wife that was happy to see me when I went, he was even telling why I didn't go to KD to spend the holiday with my parents, immediately I have to contact my coursemate who is staying in Yola, I went to stay with him in their house b4 I left for Cameroon.

Imagine, now that I am in Asia doing my postgraduate study, I am not working but he think I do and have money now, he sent my brother to give me his contact number to call him.

I told my brother to tell him, if he is on whatsapp I will call him but if not, can't call him. If he want us to greet let him call me.

gbam! if he wants to talk he should be the one calling u afterall he didnt care for u when in need.all these ungreatful relations sef.abeg u should hold ur parents and immediate siblings close.wen someone has loving distant relations then lucky him or her but wen ur relations are the greedy unloving types then its wise to give them a large space.ur priority should be ur parents and ur immediate siblings.

emkz:


Far from it bros. I have never been to Canada, but I have friends who entered through the express entry route. A few were in the category of the professionals you mentioned and are doing very well: one of them is already talking of taking a mortgage. Another one, though doing very well, is already talking of bailing as soon as he gets what he wants (he is not wired for the environment). I am not trying to discourage anyone; in subsequent posts where some people were condescending, I explained that many rush without a concrete plan and these are the ones that I am most concerned for. Research the country you are going and try to get the legal status required. Canada has made this easy for professionals through the express entry. But seeing our people risking their lives through the desert, dying in their quest for a life of uncertainty, being ferried across the Mediterranean with the boat capsizing sometimes, getting arrested at the port of entry and hurled to immigration centers for deportation, being transported in refrigerated trucks or fighting for refugee status hurts me. I don't see the need for such a risk and would advise against it. If you have no plan, stay in your country.

As to the dignity of labour you mentioned, far be it from me to undignify anyone's hustle. At some point, I considered being a security man myself and I am sure I'd have loved it if it paid my bills. I have also seen a garbage man driving a BMW 5 Series in one of the developed countries, so I know you are saying the truth. My emphasis is that our folks (including the professionals) abroad work hard for everything they have: those who work in management consulting/audit sometimes work up to 80-120 hours per week, the nurses put in long hours, the doctors see a lot of patients and may not necessarily have the time to enjoy their money, the engineers/miners sometimes go to remote locations far from home to work, those in the academia spend a lot of time writing research proposals to get grants in addition to teaching, supervising research, mentoring students and other administrative work that may affect family time. When I did my investigation, I found out that those guys calling people to cut their hair or braid can earn up to minimum wage. Those doing black work also earn a lot...until they are caught. My point is that it's not easy for professionals or non-professionals, and folks back home need to take it easy on these relatives abroad.

Well said. God bless you.

Queenslander:
Oga tell them to return home if living abroad isn't good for them.. As long as they're abroad, we will continue to call them..

Sense far frm u

ZINIBANKS:

Yeah you're right sir
But ever since I read that your story and one other bro in newzealand to be honest am having a second thought about that abroad lol

Abeg send me the link to the NEWZEALAND story of the person in NEWZEALAND abeg