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Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 12:13am On Oct 21, 2020
1StopRudeness:


You don’t have to conjure a belief out of thin air....there’s no gay gene...that’s a fundamental fact of science...

I am just saying if you believe the Biblical text then there is a basis there? but you do agree that there are hormonal imbalances in humans that express certain gender traits don't you - that is established scientific fact is it not?
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 12:14am On Oct 21, 2020
CheGuevara102:


Since you've gone spiritual then let me take you back memory lane in the beginning (Bible).

God created Adam and Eve in his Image and likeness. He created them perfect but there's something God didn't take away from Man, and that was "Freewill" but like a loving Father would his children, He gave them instructions as regards the "Do' s and Dont's". Adam disobeyed His creator and ate of the forbidden fruit from the tree that gives knowledge of what is good and bad. Do you know why God was against them eating of that fruit? As humans the tendency to do Evil will always outweigh good. It's Only God that cannot sin, Why? Because God is Holy. Armed with such knowledge comes with the tendency to commit sin such as; Killing, stealing, Adultery, fornication, Homosexuality and the rest. By eating the Apple, Man has decided not to live by God's holy rules and regulations but by theirs hence, Cain Killing his brother Abel. Today look at what man's disobedience has led today's world to.


I know you would want to ask; if God is all- Knowing, loving and powerful, Why did God place the tree in the Garden in the first place.

Now, let me break it down. What is the objective of setting up a school? To impact knowledge right? And before passing through school there are series of text and examinations that one has to scale through inorder to acquire that knowledge. Schools create a system where if you sit for an Exam and fail there will be another opportunity to re-write and pass the exam.

FOR GOD SO LOVE D WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES ON HIS SON WILL NEVER PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE JOHN 3-16.

Jesus Christ is our Correction, opportunity to carry over our failed course, and opportunity to re-seat for an Exam even when we have failed.


Thank you very much!

Your summary expresses the theory that there are 2 Eves, one created with Adam and another created from Adam - let us digest that a bit
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by WoundedLamb: 12:34am On Oct 21, 2020
studentofTruth:


The question is whether it has a genetic origin (nature) or acquired (nurture). You said it's the former, I said it's the latter. You changed it to feelings, which further confirms that it's nurture.

There's no Gene for sexual orientation. Even Sigmund Freud understood that it's nurture when he stated that at birth, a child has bi-sexual capacity — the ability to go either way (homo or heterosexual) or maintain both. In fact, nurture pushes people to either direction to a degree, creating a spectrum.

At birth, it's 0/0, but as people grow, depending on the circumstances of their upbringing, they fall into different ranges of the heterosexual/homosexual spectrum, such as 100/0, 99/1, 70/30, 50/50, 35/65, 20/80, 1/99, 0/100.

A 100/0 guy is completely heterosexual. A 0/100 fellow is completely homosexual. Someone around 50/50 will obviously be bi-sexual. A person at 70/30 is predominantly heterosexual, but under certain conditions (prison, boarding schools, etc) can indulge in homosexual acts. The opposite is also true: someone at 30/70 spectrum is predominantly homosexual, but can express heterosexual love if pushed to.

Note that 100/0 and 0/100 are almost impossible. Most people fall between 95/5 and 5/95 spectrum.

Can the conditioning be reversed? Yes, but it depends on where one is in the spectrum. It's easier for a 40/60 fellow to move up to 55/45 than for 10/90 fellow to move to 51/49.

There's no homosexuality gene. Upbringing is the key. Parents should take note. If any child ends up a homosexual, the fault is from the parents and caregivers, and not the child!

The problem today is that LGBT has hijacked psychology medicine to suit their agenda. A lot of lies are pushed to the media to support their agenda.

@bold: Scroll up and read me well. I was not doing any nature vs nurture discussion. My point to you is that nobody knows the cause of homosexuality.

There's absolutely no evidence to support the idea that it's based on upbringing. If anything, the available data suggests it's not cause two people born to the same parents, and who grew up in the same location under the same circumstances could end up being gay and straight. Gay people have been found in families and environments of all types and circumstances. Yes, it is known that genetic influence in many human behavior is grossly unclear but that influence cannot be completely denied. For example, one of the more demonstrable causes of effeminacy in men is the effect of endocrine-disrupting chemicals (EDCs) especially during the gestation period and early childhood. EDCs interfere with or disrupt the normal functioning of certain hormones. Effeminacy doesn't equal homosexuality but it's very good example cause effeminate guys aren't spared in the discrimination taking place down there. Homophobic people are naturally more inclined to accept any finding that support their hatred but I beseech you all to read more. It's always about some hijacking conspiracies here and there in Africa. Less than 10% of the world's population is gay and yet they are hijacking everything according to y'all. Maybe they are super humans then.

You actually didn't need to type an epistle about the sexuality spectrum, every gay person knows every bit of. Unlike a straight person who grew up caring not about sexuality, a gay person spends a lot of time reading and trying to find out why he is not like others. So it funny when you think you know more about sexuality that gay people. They grand point here is that nobody choses his position on that spectrum. You are straight cause you found yourself in that position. Except you can prove to me you chose to be straight yourself, it would be ridiculous to passionately hate another cause he's not like you.

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by WoundedLamb: 12:36am On Oct 21, 2020
CheGuevara102:


Okay. We will all get what we wish for in life.

Thanks for your time anyway.

May we get what we wish for. May we also have the empathy not to let others suffer cause they don't conform to our wishes.

You're welcome sir.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by MuttleyLaff: 1:07am On Oct 21, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:
grin oh Muttleylaff is coming to yansh him!
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Why would I want to do that. lmso.
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Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by HuntSon(m): 1:29am On Oct 21, 2020
RussellRutherfo:

You won't understand, illiterate until you study.

Lmao the illiterate who said it's humans that created gays are calling someone an illiterate grin

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by farem: 7:34am On Oct 21, 2020
Thattallgirl:
Lol awon holier than thou. Who said I'm gay or I like their ways? Isn't it Christ that says love your neighbor as yourself? Who then is ur neighbor? Only straight and Christians?

What a satanic type of love that doesn't tell the 'lovee' of a dire consequences of thier action!

Someone who decided not to tell a driver that is driving a vehicle without break down a sloppy place is an invitation to an untimely death, is talking!
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by navzla(m): 8:49am On Oct 21, 2020
vickydankal:
Loud it Sir,
It is time to stop being politically correct, speak the truth and stop some of these things westerners are telling us about lgbt. It’s against nature, culture, sense of reasoning and every holy book I know condemns it.
I hate westernization too. they are sars and we must end them.
#endwesternazion
#endlgt ... shit

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by frank950(m): 9:21am On Oct 21, 2020
Lonelypenguin:


I'm gay and I don't really care about having kids, maybe in the future adopting could be an option but it's not really a priority

so whose kids will you adopt?
kids from heterosexual relationship?

lol, you people don't want to accept the truth sha.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 12:02pm On Oct 21, 2020
WoundedLamb:


@bold: that doesn't make any sense (no offense intended). Being gay is a sexuality and I was telling you the factors that make one straight or gay. The presence of emotional connection I mentioned isn't only applicable to gay people. Even as a straight man, you aren't straight just cause you feel pleasure when a woman gives you head (you'd still feel pleasure if you close your eyes and a man gives you head). You're straight also cause you can love a woman romantically, something a gay person is incapable of.

The rest of your post goes to show you are discussing a topic you have extremely limited knowledge of. A homosexual man finds vagina to be the most repulsive thing on the surface of the earth! Anyone who is into both men and women is called a bisexual and not a homosexual. I think that piece of information dismantles the everything you typed up there.

Just in case you missed it, a homosexual man would throw up on seeing the female private part. Please, stop the hatred for a second and try understand people who aren't like you.

There u go again with the word hatred...u gay/ gay apologist don’t have much to say than people hate you...
I’m stating facts here...gay people experiment sex the heterosexual way....

it has nothing to with being bisexual.....and saying gay people will throw up at the site of a woman is a big fat baseless lie...no offense intended...

Btw, stop asking “do I know more about bein gay more than gay people” please.... homosexuals and the entire LGBTQ crew are one of the most confused people on the planet......they don’t even understand themselves...

do u know about your anatomy more than a Doctor..??
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 12:03pm On Oct 21, 2020
PoliteActivist:


So u admit God did create Adam and Steve

Everything is created by God..what’s your point?
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 12:11pm On Oct 21, 2020
LaEvilIMiss:


I am just saying if you believe the Biblical text then there is a basis there? but you do agree that there are hormonal imbalances in humans that express certain gender traits don't you - that is established scientific fact is it not?

Hormonal imbalance can express certain gender traits? Yes.. that’s why we have intersex or hermaphrodite folks...

Hormonal imbalance is not a norm, it’s anomaly, an exception, a flaw during ontogenesis..

...I don’t want to enter that line of discussion with you cos it will mean saying gay people are an aberration or an anomaly......
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by PoliteActivist: 12:12pm On Oct 21, 2020
1StopRudeness:


Everything is created by God..what’s your point?

So why was he saying God created Adam and Eve but not Steve
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 12:16pm On Oct 21, 2020
PoliteActivist:


So why was he saying God created Adam and Eve but not Steve

It’s a just a saying to establish the fact that God created humans as make and female..
I.e lock and key

He didn’t create two locks only or two keys only...

He made a lock for a key or a key for a lock...

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by PoliteActivist: 12:19pm On Oct 21, 2020
1StopRudeness:


It’s a just a saying to establish the fact that God created humans as make and female..
I.e lock and key

He didn’t create two locks only or two keys only...

He made a lock for a key or a key for a lock...


He clearly said Gid did not create Steve. But how come some keys also have locks where keys can go in?
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 12:23pm On Oct 21, 2020
PoliteActivist:


He clearly said Gid did not create Steve. But how come some keys also have locks where keys can go in?

Your comprehension ability amazes me...

He ddnt say God ddnt create Steve...?? Steve is just a name for a man.. it could have been any other name...

He made a pairing statement?? The idea he was trying to pas along was that a man was paired with a women at creation...


If u like ....I could put it this way....

God ddnt create Steve and Adam

He created Steve and eve...

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Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 12:27pm On Oct 21, 2020
1StopRudeness:


Hormonal imbalance can express certain gender traits? Yes.. that’s why we have intersex or hermaphrodite folks...

Hormonal imbalance is not a norm, it’s anomaly, an exception, a flaw during ontogenesis..

...I don’t want to enter that line of discussion with you cos it will mean saying gay people are an aberration or an anomaly......

understood - no wahala, just trying to understand without losing my humanity
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by PoliteActivist: 12:35pm On Oct 21, 2020
1StopRudeness:


Your comprehension ability amazes me...

He ddnt say God ddnt create Steve...?? Steve is just a name for a man.. it could have been any other name...

He made a pairing statement?? The idea he was trying to pas along was that a man was paired with a women at creation...


If u like ....I could put it this way....

God ddnt create Steve and Adam

He created Steve and eve...

"At creation" Which means that creation ended then, which leads to the question: who created Steve
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by WoundedLamb: 2:14pm On Oct 21, 2020
1StopRudeness:


There u go again with the word hatred...u gay/ gay apologist don’t have much to say than people hate you...
I’m stating facts here...gay people experiment sex the heterosexual way....

it has nothing to with being bisexual.....and saying gay people will throw up at the site of a woman is a big fat baseless lie...no offense intended...

Btw, stop asking “do I know more about bein gay more than gay people” please.... homosexuals and the entire LGBTQ crew are one of the most confused people on the planet......they don’t even understand themselves...

do u know about your anatomy more than a Doctor..??

The word hate? Lol... dude, I can't even use that word enough cause hatred is the crux of homophobia. If you remove that, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Regardless of the form it takes, gay people are extremely hated down there even more than thieves. Nobody sits down to understand them. To y'all, they are perverts that just want to have disgusting sex and satisfy their dirty desires. Yet many of these gay guys are doctors, lawyers, bankers, etc. who don't even have time to sleep around as much as some straight people. The hatred is overwhelming. You know this so pretending otherwise would be ridiculous.

Dude, you said gay people get erection and fvck women, that is not true. A hundred nude women wouldn't turn a gay person on just like nude men wouldn't turn a straight person on. Arguing this with would be so low of me cause that's something we shouldn't even be talking about. A young gay person who just learned of sexuality would do anything to fit in. Some go to watch straight porn hoping it will change them, one on Nairaland came online to ask how he can be impotent cause it's obvious the society would rather have an impotent man than a gay child, some even commit suicide. So if such lad attempts straight sex as a way trying to "cure" himself, it doesn't mean that gay people get errect and fvck cause at the end,. The denial to self acceptance cycle is always the same for 99% of gay people and this is a well documented pattern. But you wouldn't know cause a gay person is not worth your attention until it's time to bash them online. HATRED.

Your doctor analogy doesn't fit in, I'm just ignoring the ridiculousness.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Mizfabulous18(f): 2:48pm On Oct 21, 2020
1StopRudeness:


How can all the women in the world have the same attitude....?? U vaga!na people are just amazing when it comes to jumping into conclusions ....did u even read the premise of this comment or you desperation to show your displeasure for gay people is what’s driving you??
and u penis people r d ones with sense I guess hmmm I laugh at mans stupidity..go read ur bible dude
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 3:41pm On Oct 21, 2020
Mizfabulous18:
and u penis people r d ones with sense I guess hmmm I laugh at mans stupidity..go read ur bible dude

This has nothing to do with Bible.... another nairalnder and I was in the middle of a conversation, u just jumped into the 3rd comment without knowing the premise... and u still have the efontry to call me stupid now... are u deliberately looking for trouble or you are just naturally irrational??
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 3:56pm On Oct 21, 2020
WoundedLamb:


The word hate? Lol... dude, I can't even use that word enough cause hatred is the crux of homophobia. If you remove that, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Regardless of the form it takes, gay people are extremely hated down there even more than thieves. Nobody sits down to understand them. To y'all, they are perverts that just want to have disgusting sex and satisfy their dirty desires. Yet many of these gay guys are doctors, lawyers, bankers, etc. who don't even have time to sleep around as much as some straight people. The hatred is overwhelming. You know this so pretending otherwise would be ridiculous.

Dude, you said gay people get erection and fvck women, that is not true. A hundred nude women wouldn't turn a gay person on just like nude men wouldn't turn a straight person on. Arguing this with would be so low of me cause that's something we shouldn't even be talking about. A young gay person who just learned of sexuality would do anything to fit in. Some go to watch straight porn hoping it will change them, one on Nairaland came online to ask how he can be impotent cause it's obvious the society would rather have an impotent man than a gay child, some even commit suicide. So if such lad attempts straight sex as a way trying to "cure" himself, it doesn't mean that gay people get errect and fvck cause at the end,. The denial to self acceptance cycle is always the same for 99% of gay people and this is a well documented pattern. But you wouldn't know cause a gay person is not worth your attention until it's time to bash them online. HATRED.

Your doctor analogy doesn't fit in, I'm just ignoring the ridiculousness.


Denial of self acceptance indeed... that’s why many of you marry and have three children before accepting and embracing whatever it is you call your truth....

go on line and read articles of and surveys of homosexuals and lesbians that have had sex the heterosexual way but say they are happier and more sexually excited with same gender sex...
I still spoke to a gay guy on nairaland who said the same thing some weeks back...

The problem with world today is you reject being told the truth or don’t want people to have an opinion...
u gay people especially like to force your opinion on people, if the cops ddnt catch Jussie smolett the other time... he would have claimed straight people hatred crime was executed against him...


Atheist disagree with my religious beliefs a lot and they have their views about my ideologies... I would never cry that they hate me....they might disagree with what I do and how I do it....
It has nothing to do with hatred....


Think whateva you want.... u can’t tell me not to have an opinion about the way you choose to cum.... it’s my opinion..I have opinion about a lot of things.... if you want to swing it as hatred, that’s your cup of tea.....
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 4:00pm On Oct 21, 2020
PoliteActivist:


"At creation" Which means that creation ended then, which leads to the question: who created Steve




After telling u Steve is only an analogy.... and the statement could have been said as:

God ddnt create Steve and Adam
He created Steve and eve...

I would have to give up on you....it appears you are not reading my comment....
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by DannyG8(m): 7:36pm On Oct 21, 2020
Thattallgirl:
Nah dear. I'm straight
ok
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by PoliteActivist: 7:50pm On Oct 21, 2020
1StopRudeness:





After telling u Steve is only an analogy.... and the statement could have been said as:

God ddnt create Steve and Adam
He created Steve and eve...

I would have to give up on you....it appears you are not reading my comment....

You are the one that appears not to be reading my comments. Here's interpretation of what I wrote: if u say creation did not stop then at some point Adam and Steve could have been created
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Nobody: 8:08pm On Oct 21, 2020
PoliteActivist:


You are the one that appears not to be reading my comments. Here's interpretation of what I wrote: if u say creation did not stop then at some point Adam and Steve could have been created


It’s the Bible...it ddnt say at any point that God joined man and man together to live as one...
It said the Bible joined a man and woman together....I’m just telling what the book said...U are free to say or assume whatever u want....

If u want to be gay, be gay.... why are u desperately in need of the Bible to validate how u choose to cum..? It’s ur decision....there are so many places in the Bible that condemns same sex practice...but if u want to ignore those part and assume things that the Bible ddnt say...well, it’s a free world...

Even nature let’s us know sex is a design between man and woman.....it’s eveident in almost all creatures except lower life forms like bacteria that have the ability to split into to becos of their non-complex cell structure.... but if you want to ignore nature as well.... well, it’s a free world...u are free to do whateva u want
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by WoundedLamb: 3:35am On Oct 22, 2020
1StopRudeness:



Denial of self acceptance indeed... that’s why many of you marry and have three children before accepting and embracing whatever it is you call your truth....

go on line and read articles of and surveys of homosexuals and lesbians that have had sex the heterosexual way but say they are happier and more sexually excited with same gender sex...
I still spoke to a gay guy on nairaland who said the same thing some weeks back...

The problem with world today is you reject being told the truth or don’t want people to have an opinion...
u gay people especially like to force your opinion on people, if the cops ddnt catch Jussie smolett the other time... he would have claimed straight people hatred crime was executed against him...


Atheist disagree with my religious beliefs a lot and they have their views about my ideologies... I would never cry that they hate me....they might disagree with what I do and how I do it....
It has nothing to do with hatred....


Think whateva you want.... u can’t tell me not to have an opinion about the way you choose to cum.... it’s my opinion..I have opinion about a lot of things.... if you want to swing it as hatred, that’s your cup of tea.....




Mr Truth teller, calm down and learn. It will do you good to learn. Even if you want to hate, hate logically. Gay people get married cause the society wouldn't have it otherwise. They get married and the marriage collapses and the society think it's better that way instead of letting them be. No gay person is attracted to women, that is simply contrary to the definition of the word so stop embarrassing yourself onhere. You didn't do any research. I don't even need to be think twice about that.

You can have your opinion. After all, that is the new word for discrimination. But you people down there will remain stagnant until you get rid of this mentality of 'I am better than the other'.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by MuttleyLaff: 5:04am On Oct 22, 2020
1StopRudeness:
Denial of self acceptance indeed... that’s why many of you marry and have three children before accepting and embracing whatever it is you call your truth....

go on line and read articles of and surveys of homosexuals and lesbians that have had sex the heterosexual way but say they are happier and more sexually excited with same gender sex...
I still spoke to a gay guy on nairaland who said the same thing some weeks back...

The problem with world today is you reject being told the truth or don’t want people to have an opinion...
u gay people especially like to force your opinion on people, if the cops ddnt catch Jussie smolett the other time... he would have claimed straight people hatred crime was executed against him...

Atheist disagree with my religious beliefs a lot and they have their views about my ideologies... I would never cry that they hate me....they might disagree with what I do and how I do it....
It has nothing to do with hatred....

Think whateva you want.... u can’t tell me not to have an opinion about the way you choose to cum.... it’s my opinion..I have opinion about a lot of things.... if you want to swing it as hatred, that’s your cup of tea.....
Opinions come ten a penny. They are so common as to be practically worthless in the face of truth, fact and reality. Your opinion(s) is meaningless because this has nothing do to with "opinions" but has to do with truth and facts of the matter, which you apparently have no clue what that they are.

You are voicing opinions without knowing the facts and are overripe for getting to be biblically correctly and properly educated. How adroit you are at ignoring bible verses context and insisting the readership, all hook sinker and bait, accept your worthless opinion, hmm?

For a change, take the Bible and Bible study seriously. I insist you read the Bible in context so that to obey 2 Timothy 2:15 and be in a position to always "rightly divide the word of truth."

If you don’t like SSA people, blame the non SSA people, they are the ones who keep having SSA babies, lmso. Straight sperm goes in, SSA babies come out, nobi so, lmso, hmm?

WoundedLamb:
Mr Truth teller, calm down and learn. It will do you good to learn. Even if you want to hate, hate logically. Gay people get married cause the society wouldn't have it otherwise. They get married and the marriage collapses and the society think it's better that way instead of letting them be. No gay person is attracted to women, that is simply contrary to the definition of the word so stop embarrassing yourself onhere. You didn't do any research. I don't even need to be think twice about that.

You can have your opinion. After all, that is the new word for discrimination. But you you will remain stagnant until you get rid of this mentality of 'I am better than the other'.
Same sex attraction couples (i.e. SSA couples) get married because of the legal safety net issues and not because society wouldnt have it otherwise. Not even because of the false religious issues, as SSA couples have grown wiser and long since have learnt to move beyond what false religion thinks of them.

Two gay people who have been cohabiting together as a couple, for say, 10 years, don't have the same legal rights as two heterosexual people married for ten years. So if one of the gay couple dies there are a lot more legal battles their partner needs to fight compared to the partner left behind in a heterosexual marriage, hence the need for civil union/civil partnership. a legally recognized arrangement similar to marriage, created primarily as a means to provide recognition in law for same-sex couples. Civil unions grant most or all of the rights of marriage except the title itself.

So, civil partnership is a legal relationship which can be registered by two people of the same sex. If you are in a same-sex relationship, registering a civil partnership will give your relationship legal recognition. This will give you added legal rights, as well as responsibilities. It really is that simple, lmso.


MuttleyLaff:
We are not talking of house painting or bypass surgery here, but honest, sincere and truthful 2 Timothy 2:15 exegesis and hermeneutic of Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10.

Scripture cannot mean now, what it did not mean back then, lmso. Familiarity of verses like, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, Romans 1:26-27, and even 1 Corinthians 6:9 and/or 1 Timothy 1:10 does not necessarily mean contextually understanding each one and/or all of them, lmso.

I dare you to show me ONE verse in the Bible where homosexuality is not linked to temple cult idolatry, lust promiscuous sexual intercourse.

So, you've now resorted to name calling abi? It's OK, as my penis is not offended in the least, lmso

If you know all these then and are reinforcing my point for me, that, love is the main aspect in heterosexual/homosexual monogamous, committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving relationships, then why are you not pleased for those who are gay be happier in their lives, loving each other then, hmm? If mutual love is not a barrier in heterosexual relationships, why are you bent on making love, a barrier, in same sex attraction relationships, hmm? Dont you understand that, in itself, homosexuality is just as limiting as heterosexuality is: the ideal is to love a woman or a man, a human being, without feeling clamped down upon, without fear of, restraint, condemnation, singled out for vilification et cetera

Be careful what and/or who you hate because it could be someone dear to you, who you love, lmso

Any Bible verses you believe are condemning same sex attraction relationships are not, in context, talking about monogamous, committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationships.

What commandment does monogamous, committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationships violate, hmm? What evil, do you see, in monogamous, committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationship act of love, hmm? Is your hatred against a monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationship act of love, a good thing, huh, considering that the Bible, says there is no law against love, hmm? Clearly, no where in the bible are long term monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationships are condemned and/or called a sin

God accepts everyone who doesnt hurt himself/herself or harm others (e.g. children, animals, environment et cetera) and who is kind, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving, lmso

None of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ’ biographers including not even a single instance of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ challenged same sex attraction relationships. So, if Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ isn’t against same sex attraction relationships, then, at least for believers/saints, that should end the argument and discussions. Besides if the essence of Bible is love, just as you admitted to with me, lmso, and Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ says this too, then long term monogamous, mutual committed, faithful, loyal, truthful, kind, caring, honest and loving same sex attraction relationships hardly falls afoul of the Bible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvg9BKMWh00
I am advising not to bother attempt watching the above attached 45 minutes clip if you are a bigoted, faint hearted, cheapskate homophobe and have an averse to mind broadening educational material, lmso. Point of interest, I particularly want watched, starts from the "testing gay" 2:35 minute, lmso. Personally I wouldnt recommend this extreme means of testing or "trying it" lmso.
Re: Pastor Adeboye: "God Created Adam And Eve, Not Adam And Steve" by Cousin9999: 10:59pm On Oct 22, 2020
Lesson 17: The Sin of Judging Others (James 4:11-12)

https://bible.org/seriespage/lesson-17-sin-judging-others-james-411-12

(1). YOU JUDGE SOMEONE WRONGLY WHEN YOU CRITICIZE HIM OUT OF JEALOUSY, BITTERNESS, SELFISH AMBITION, OR SOME OTHER SIN, RATHER THAN SEEKING TO BUILD HIM IN CHRIST.

(2). YOU JUDGE SOMEONE WRONGLY WHEN YOU ASSUME THAT YOU KNOW ALL OF THE PERTINENT FACTS AND MOTIVES BEHIND THE PERSON’S WORDS OR ACTIONS.

(3). YOU JUDGE SOMEONE WRONGLY WHEN YOU SET UP HUMAN STANDARDS, RATHER THAN HOLDING TO GOD’S WORD AS THE STANDARD.

(4). YOU JUDGE SOMEONE WRONGLY WHEN YOU DO NOT FIRST JUDGE YOUR OWN SIN BEFORE TRYING TO HELP HIM WITH HIS SIN.

(5). YOU JUDGE SOMEONE WRONGLY WHEN YOU SHARE CONFIDENTIAL OR PERSONAL INFORMATION WITH THE WRONG INTENT.

(6). YOU JUDGE SOMEONE WRONGLY WHEN OUT OF A SELF-RIGHTEOUS SPIRIT, YOU CRITICIZE OR MALIGN HIM OVER A MINOR OR INDIFFERENT MATTER.

(7). YOU JUDGE SOMEONE WRONGLY WHEN YOU MAKE AN AUTHORITATIVE PRONOUNCEMENT ABOUT HIS ETERNAL DESTINY.

A. SUBMIT TO GOD’S AUTHORITATIVE WORD BY ACTIVELY LOVING OTHERS WITH YOUR WORDS.
Love does not tear down others; it builds them in Christ. If you speak against others and criticize them to make yourself look good, you are loving yourself, not others. You are not obeying God’s law; you are setting yourself above it. Of course we must love others with our deeds, not in words only. But here James is focusing on how we speak to one another and about others who are not present. Our words need to demonstrate God’s love.

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