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Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by shadeyinka(m): 2:09pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Jesus taught more about hell than anyone else in the scriptures. If some people at the headquarters says Jesus is wrong and they are believed, how great is this delusion! |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by VillagePeople11: 2:09pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
shadeyinka: That is not not the teaching of hell says....can you specify where and where in the teaching it separates the level of torment? 1 Like |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by shadeyinka(m): 2:14pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
VillagePeople11:Luk 12:48: "But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more." Mat 16:27: "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works." Rev 22:12: "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be." Hell is the prison where stubborn individuals are kept |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by hahn(m): 2:21pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Lol |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by truespeak: 3:31pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
VillagePeople11: Simple offences carry Simple Punishments, Whilst CAPITAL Offences carry CAPITAL Punishments! But which simple offence is mentioned in the Bible which condemns a person to Lake of Fire? |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by Janosky: 3:56pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Is Adam suffering everlasting torture in hellfire? Was any living person tortured forever in Gehenna? Since una no agree to learn SENSE from Jesus Christ teaching @ Matthew 24:36-37,39 @ 2 Thess1:7-9, Continue DECEIVING yourselves |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by sonmvayina(m): 4:27pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: When its time for you to wake up...you will..mean time ,enjoy your delusion.. |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by sonmvayina(m): 4:28pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
shadeyinka: What is your own understanding ? Who is man and who is God? |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by Dtruthspeaker: 4:47pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
sonmvayina: joke of the day! skeletons in the grave telling the living to wake up |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by shadeyinka(m): 5:42pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
Janosky:You wont listen to true doctrine Except you are fed with deceptions as it comes from those at the headquarters. Sheol is a general name for the place where people are domiciled after death. Grave could mean literal grave/tomb- Under the ground or inside a hewed from the earth or rock or Sheol depending on the context. Hades- is the Greek equivalence of Sheol and it could mean1. The Grave - The Place Of Bodily Decay 2. The Place Of The Punishment For The Wicked 3. Possibly As A General Term For The Unseen Realm Of The Dead Gehenna- is the valley of Valley of Hinnom. An accursed place where some kings of Judah sacrificed their children. These later in history became a refuse dump that was continuously on fire. Hell is not Lake of fire. Sheol seems to be divided into two compartments. One is a place called Abraham's Bosom and the second compartment is Hell (a holding place for evil people). There is a gulf of separation between them. Lake of Fire - it is the final place of rejection of those who have rejected God. It will contain both Hell, satan and the fallen angels and everyone whose name is not in the book of life. The lake of fire is EMPTY as of now. Now, looking at your questions, your confusion is betrayed 1. Is Adam suffering everlasting torture in hellfire? Who told you that Adam is in hellfire? Gehenna- is a synonym for Hell or Hellfire or the literal valley of Hinnom. I don't know where you took your doctrine from. Abel died and yet his blood speaks, how? 2.Was any living person tortured forever in Gehenna? Are you speaking of the literal Gehenna- or hell or Hellfire? See how you muddle up context in simple asking of questions! |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by shadeyinka(m): 6:58pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
sonmvayina:Can you not perceive that this question is unintelligent? You just literally said that God cannot punish himself as man is carrying God as partly God. The spirit goes back to God and the body back to the earth.. So why would God send his spirit to hell, who will suffer ? |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by sonmvayina(m): 9:53pm On Nov 23, 2020 |
shadeyinka: What is your own opinion ..who is God and who is man ? Do you believe that man is God having a human experience ? |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by Image123(m): 2:31am On Nov 24, 2020 |
LordReed: Since you have, you should not be shocked or befuddled in any way at the ease in which hell is realistically accomplishable. |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by Image123(m): 2:42am On Nov 24, 2020 |
hahn: How can it make sense to hahn? Has reasoning started making sense to hahn? Only antigod makes sense of course. Pick that post and reasonably tear it down per sentence at the risk of a brain meltdown. |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by shadeyinka(m): 5:53am On Nov 24, 2020 |
sonmvayina:You are still repeating a the nonsensical question! And your second question! I do not belive that man is God having a human expression for God is perfection: you might avail me where and how you got such a doctrine. We are obviously not vibrating at the same frequency. |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by sonmvayina(m): 7:00am On Nov 24, 2020 |
shadeyinka: From all indication,Yours is lower. I am asking again , who is God and who is man or what.. |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by shadeyinka(m): 7:31am On Nov 24, 2020 |
sonmvayina:You tell me your own definition as I perceive that yours is not the convectional understanding. |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by sonmvayina(m): 10:30am On Nov 24, 2020 |
shadeyinka: It is rude to answer a question with a question...so please what or who is God or man . and what is the conventional understanding ? At least let us understand ourselves and we can move on from there.. |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by shadeyinka(m): 10:32am On Nov 24, 2020 |
sonmvayina:That question is mundane! As your understanding is different from the convectional, spill the beans. We can do quality discussion on this after |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by LordReed(m): 10:36am On Nov 24, 2020 |
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Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by sonmvayina(m): 10:55am On Nov 24, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Hhaahahhaha, you are not getting out of this...it means you don't even know what God is and what man is....what is God and what is man? And what is the conventional idea about both.. |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by shadeyinka(m): 10:59am On Nov 24, 2020 |
sonmvayina:State you mind as I don't answer senseless questions! |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by CrazyMan(m): 11:18am On Nov 24, 2020 |
VillagePeople11:Hell was created for Satan and other fallen angels who rebelled against God not man. God's ultimate plan isn't to put man in hell but man is a free moral agent. Meaning man can make his own independent choice in life. We all have a choice to either follow God or join satan and his fallen angels in hell for all eternity. So if you choose to join satan how does it make God a bad person? 1 Like |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by haddeylium(m): 11:38am On Nov 24, 2020 |
shadeyinka:Are you sure the Bible agrees with your definition of Hell? The Hebrew word SHEOL and Greek equivalent HADES translated to HELL means COMMON GRAVE OF MANKIND and not a fiery place of torment. Hell is different from Hellfire. the latter is a man-made not found in God's word. Compare different translation together (ASV, byginton and others). You'll find this helpful in your search for truth |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by Janosky: 11:44am On Nov 24, 2020 |
CrazyMan: God prescribed death/destruction as punishment for man/Satan (Gen 3:15,19. 2 Thess1:7-9. Romans 6:23. Matthew 24:36,37,39), una say God no know wetin Him dey do. Issorait ! |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by shadeyinka(m): 11:50am On Nov 24, 2020 |
haddeylium:Sheol is a general name for the place where people are domiciled after death. Grave could mean literal grave/tomb- Under the ground or inside a hewed from the earth or rock or Sheol depending on the context. Hades- is the Greek equivalence of Sheol and it could mean1. The Grave - The Place Of Bodily Decay 2. The Place Of The Punishment For The Wicked 3. Possibly As A General Term For The Unseen Realm Of The Dead. Hades is also translated as Hell Gehenna- is the valley of Valley of Hinnom. An accursed place where some kings of Judah sacrificed their children. These later in history became a refuse dump that was continuously on fire. Hell is not Lake of fire. Sheol seems to be divided into two compartments. One is a place called Abraham's Bosom and the second compartment is Hell (a holding place for evil people). There is a gulf of separation between them. Lake of Fire - it is the final place of rejection of those who have rejected God. It will contain both Hell, satan and the fallen angels and everyone whose name is not in the book of life. The lake of fire is EMPTY as of now. I didn't mention Hellfire |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by sonmvayina(m): 11:56am On Nov 24, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Let me oblige you..God is the totality of the consiouseness or active force (in Jehovah's witness language ) of the universe..it is the source of all creations.. Man is a created being, made from the dust of the earth and the spirit(or breath) of the creator. Man was fashioned from the dust of the earth and the spirit or breath of God brought him to life, when God takes the breath or spirit. The body becomes lifeless and is either buried or cremated ... People go a long way to organize elaborate burial ceremony because the body once housed the spirit of the creator... Just as the psalmist rightly said "send forth YOUR SPIRIT and they are created and replenish the earth , take it and they die and return back to dust..psalm 104:29-31 |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by sonmvayina(m): 12:01pm On Nov 24, 2020 |
shadeyinka: You are just defending what somebody else wrote blindly, without even understanding it. You don't know what God and Man are... So sad . |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by haddeylium(m): 12:02pm On Nov 24, 2020 |
shadeyinka: I was thinking you would atleast use the concordance to confirm those terms Sheol is the direct equivalent of Hades in Greek... It means grave and not a fiery place of torment some translation use Hell/Pit/Grave /Underground . They all have the same meaning. The Bible teaches that everyone is going to Hell/grave/pit 1 Like |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by sonmvayina(m): 12:08pm On Nov 24, 2020 |
CrazyMan: When was hell created? Because the bible says "in the beginning God created heaven and earth.....at which point did hell come into existence. Was it during the creative period of the 6 days or after God has finished creation and rested.. Or was it man who created hell to make you more easy to control ? |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by haddeylium(m): 12:14pm On Nov 24, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Good! it's hellfire that means a fiery place of torment and not HELL |
Re: Does The Hellfire Punishment Make Sense? by sonmvayina(m): 12:21pm On Nov 24, 2020 |
[quote author=haddeylium post=96386250] I was thinking you would atleast use the concordance to confirm those terms Sheol is the direct equivalent of Hades in Greek... It means grave and not a fiery place of torment some translation use Hell/Pit/Grave /Underground . They all have the same meaning. [b] The Bible everyone is going to Hell/grave/pit[\b][quote] I agree with you, that is where the body is going, ultimately to turn to dust. But Gods breath or spirit that once dwell in it and brought it to life will return back to God.... |
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