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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by MedicH: 11:52am On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle: Shouldn't a rag know what an occupational hazard is? Be like as a doctor u are handling a case and lost a patient then a family member comes in and start to beat u up out of anger because he thinks u didn't do ur best. Will the doctor sue him for aggravated assault and battery? Answer is no. Pls have sense, stop being this silly. Encourage women to chose a dignifying means of livelihood not seeping around like dogs. Be a woman empowerment and advocacy agent not a sorry ass looking for where to get pity. Tueh! 3 Likes |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by MedicH: 11:53am On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle: Im not buying into the whole rape a prostitute thing because it does not exist. I want to give u a small benefit of doubt. Shouldn't a rag know what an occupational hazard is? Be like as a doctor u are handling a case and lost a patient then a family member comes in and start to beat u up out of anger because he thinks u didn't do ur best. Will the doctor sue him for aggravated assault and battery? Answer is no. Pls have sense, stop being this silly. Encourage women to chose a dignifying means of livelihood not seeping around like dogs. Be a woman empowerment and advocacy agent not a sorry ass looking for where to get pity. Tueh! |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by khingTony(m): 11:59am On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle:Because she didn't provide an evidence, if she had provided one, people will take her serious |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 12:01pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
khingTony: They didn't take her serious because she's a paid prostitute, not because of evidence. If it was a child, their response would have been different 1 Like |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by khingTony(m): 12:07pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle:Yeah, she's a paid hoe that was chasing clout And why are you defending an olosho with such enthusiasm? Prostitution is one of the problems we have in this country |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 12:09pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
khingTony: She's a human being. Isn't that enough to defend her? Does her profession have to define whether she receives help or not? |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Camelot65: 1:18pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle:A normal human shouldn't have dismissed her claims when it first came out but with the evidence coming up, I don't believe her The chat was clear, she threatened to use the "rape" word on him because he refused paying up..... ("to show that they agreed to meet for sex but problem began when he paid her afterwards with fake transfer") And the meeting was planned, The man actually went to her hotel room instead, so it wasn't something she did 'willingly'.("she called him a "doctor that is inhuman enough to sleep with a woman in her own hotel room and left her stranded after an argument".) BTW A lady can be raped if she willingly goes to a guy's house, no one is disputing that. 1 Like |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Dpsychologist: 1:28pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle:I will like i ask you a Question. How do you explain consent? |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 2:02pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle: Why do you keep coming back to the same point that I've already agreed upon a dozen times? A prostitute can absolutely be raped if she goes to meet a man in a hotel room or house. But once she does that, her accusations become suspect because it is customarily understood that she went there to ply her trade (unless she also is a part time interior designer and went to design their kitchen instead, in which case, she has a more valid excuse to be there). And of course, if she comes there to ply her real trade, and is not paid, then that is a creditor/debtor dispute and no longer rape;especially if she herself admits that there was no coercion and that her whole problem has to do with non payment. |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 2:04pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle: Everyone takes sides. Fortunately, establishment of guilt is not by vote, but by evidence. And the evidence here points to this belief Ng a false accusation of rape. She would do better to file for trade debt repayment instead. |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 4:42pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
RisenPhoenix1: Okay. So no matter what she says, even if she has medical evidence that there was coercion, she can't still pursue her claim? |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 4:43pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
RisenPhoenix1: Taking sides based on a preconceived notion that the other gender is bad no matter what is a horrible way to live life. 1 Like |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 4:45pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Dpsychologist: Not willingly being in the same private spot as the guy. |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 4:49pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle: I notice you were not too averse to taking sides yourself. You need a good talking to also. Remove the beam from thine eye and all that. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 4:51pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
RisenPhoenix1: I'm not taking sides. I'm angry their reason for taking sides is because of her profession. |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 4:58pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle: Well, that is hardly surprising if you come to think of it. If I saw my mechanic turn up at my door, I would assume that my car was due for service and he wanted to take it. I wouldn't assume that he came to tutor my kids in trigonometry. 1 Like |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 5:05pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
RisenPhoenix1: But what happened to benefit of the doubt? Doesn't everyone deserve that despite their profession? If a petty thief came online to say he was almost kidnapped by Emoney, I'd never dismiss him out rightly. The story sounds far-reaching, yes, but I still listen to him and let the accused defend himself. Sometime ago when rape was pretty come on this forum, a guy came online to talk about how he was raped as a child by their househelp. Technically, it's child molestation but its still rape. I believed him, at least I gave him the benefit of the doubt. However, another guy on that thread told him to shut up and not say anything. Why? According to him, guys can't be raped. That right there is what dismissal looks like and I don't appreciate when people do that. Give that mechanic the benefit of doubt. Who knows? He might actually be pretty good at trigonometry. |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 5:11pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle: The human brain dislikes disorder. That is why so many people compartmentalise and generalise. It is only natural. The burden of proof now lies on the outlier to present. If my mechanic showed me how skilled he is at trigonometry, I would have to believe it. In this case, this woman has failed to present any evidence to back up her claim of being an outlier. In fact, the emerging evidence points directly towards a failed sex for cash transaction. And unless consent can be withdrawn after the fact, rape cannot be said to have taken place. So I would say that the gentlemen who mock her are totally on point. You on the other hand, still refuse to accept the obvious. 1 Like |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 5:16pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
the doctor has already released chats proving both of them agreed to have sex and she was assured she would be paid after the sex.There is no issue of rape here but breach of promise.A lady went all the way to abuja and paid for a hotel room in waiting for the guy to arrive so they can go ahead with the oza room business.Her false accusation of rape is making genuine rape cases look unbelievable .she should have said the truth and let everyone know that the guy refused paying the full amount for the sex instead of laying a false accusation of rape. 3 Likes |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nazgul: 5:17pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Any rape claim that involves a single adult female and a single adult male, needs to be properly investigated. If it's a case of more than one male adult against a single female, such claim can easily be true. Or an adult male and a female minor. Girls these days are very terrible, and the only way they feel they can deal with a guy who outsmarted them to gain access into their coochie is to claim they were raped. Let's even be honest here, one unarmed guy can't successfully rape a girl whose over 21 years of age. Most minors succumb to their predators due to fear, but quote me anywhere, if a mature girl closes her legs and say she's not sleeping with you, believe me no matter how hard you try, you'll never gain access into her vagina. Sex requires cooperation from both parties. you hear words like, turn like this, keep your leg like that, bend small...etc. When one party isn't cooperating, then sex becomes impossible, would you break her legs just to penetrate her vagina? There are some positions a girl would take you can't do anything aside handling her boobs, and touching her recklessly. Let me share a story with you, a girl chatted me on Whatsapp last month, I still have the chats sef and can provide them on request. She told me that she was raped my my friend. I asked her where the incident occurred she told me in his house, i inquired to know what she was doing in his house, it turned out that she even spent the night there. I called my friend to hear his own side of the story, and discovered that they both had an agreement that if he sleeps with her, he'll assist her in paying her rent which had long expired, he sent me screenshots as proof. Now after sleeping with her, guy man change gear and the girl felt used and bad, and started claiming rape. Would you call that rape, of course not. That's why I hardly take any rape story involving two adults serious, cos proper investigation would still tell you that at one point they both consented to sex. 2 Likes |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 5:27pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
RisenPhoenix1: What is the obvious? I worry cause I believe the way we judge rape cases in this country is why so many rapists get away with it. |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 5:30pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle: The obvious is that it was a transaction gone wrong not rape. Better that a rapist should get away with it than that an innocent man gets his life destroyed falsely. If false accusations are pandered to, false rape allegations will become a bigger business model than religion. |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 5:33pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Nazgul: I don't know where you heard the bold but that is a lie. Please, stop using it as a criteria to judge. Men are physically stronger than women and can get what they want through coercion. That's rape. What you described up there isn't. Asides, you said investigation here but because "Girls are terrible", you completely wrote off that lady's story and it's worrisome. Also, using a single case that happened to judge every other case isn't right as no two cases are the same. 1 Like |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 5:39pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Nazgul: Actually this is true. An unarmed man can never forcefully rape a full grown woman without leaving obvious injuries on her body. He can eventually overpower her, but the marks will be there for all to see. A raped woman coming out of a man's hotel room all pristine and freshly bathed did not struggle enough, if at all. |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 5:41pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
RisenPhoenix1: I literally have no words. It's like saying "let's sacrifice all the victims of rape in order to free a man so we don't ruin his perfect little life." Let me tell you a little story: Jeffrey Dahmer, a serial rapist and killer was reported to the police by a guy he had raped at his house after drugging him. However, because the guy was gay, police said they couldn't arrest Dahmer without proper evidence. Jeffrey raped and killed at least 10 guys more after that before he was finally arrested. 1 Like |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nazgul: 5:47pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle:Madam it's almost impossible for a guy to rape a mature girl, unless they're more than one, then the girl can easily be overpowered and subdued. Forget the masculine nature, not every guy is physically strong enough to sustain a struggle with a mature girl amidst screams. The worse he'll do is to drive her out of his house regardless what time it is. @bolded. Sometimes I feel you just talk for talking sake. I've heard countless cases of false rape claims. Neymar the footballer had a similar case, the girl calmed rape and he uploaded chats and the case died off. Fatoyibo the pastor was accused of rape, so many girls appeared from the blue to tarnish his image...where are them today? Pastor suleman and otobo case, a good number of girls also sprung up to claim he raped them as well...where are them today? And many more cases I won't mention cos there won't be enough space for them. No one takes any rape claim of an adult female and an adult male serious anymore cos you ladies are very manipulative and can go any length to get back at a man for using you. How can you come out from a hotel and say you were raped, what were you doing there in the first place? How can you spend the night at a guy's place and claim rape...what were you doing in his house? 2 Likes |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nazgul: 5:50pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
RisenPhoenix1:Exactly, there would be evidence of a struggle... that's if he manages to have his way, cos to me it's almost impossible. And anyone who looks at her would easily know she was raped. Obviously the op just wants to talk for talking sake. 2 Likes |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 5:54pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Sixfeetbelle: You quoted and highlighted my exact words, yet you still managed to misrepresent them. I did not say we should sacrifice ALL the victims of rape. My exact words were 'a' rapist. And last I heard, the indefinite article 'a' refers to ONE not ALL. My statement rests on the very reasonable assumption that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. The police acted properly in your cited case study,v tragic as it may subsequently seem. There can be no other way to avoid injustice against innocents. As I recall, I did profer alternative solutions to prevent or at least minimize; rape; from the source, by cautioning women against going to untrusted men's hotel rooms or homes if they did not want to have sex. |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 6:34pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
RisenPhoenix1: What I understood from your comment was if 5 ladies says a guy raped them and 4 are found to be chasing clout, we should let the guy go so his life won't be ruined, not minding how the fifth case turns out. Anyway, the reason I gave you that story was to show you what effect stereotype has on rape cases. The guy who reported the rape was black. The guy was gay. The police would definitely have made attempt to investigate more if the victim was white and a female. Same way I know the public's response to the singer's case would have gone in a different direction where she to be a reputable person. 1 Like |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by danyomo: 6:38pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
She wasn't raped period.. |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 6:49pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
Nazgul: With a gun or a knife, yes, they can. There's no need for more manpower if you have a deadly weapon whether it be a gun, knife or drugging the victim earlier. That you've heard thousands of false rape claims isn't a given to dismiss others. Stop using it as a criteria. Robinho was charged and sentenced to jail for raping a girl yet Neymar wasn't. Both ladies claimed they were raped. And also stop being emotional with the "Girls are manipulative" nonsense you keep spewing here. A vast majority using it for clout doesn't negate those that are actual victims. Stop concluding all of them are false rape charges just to exonerate your fellow men. Coming from a hotel room isn't fail proof that a rape didn't occur behind closed doors and this is the basis of my thread. Why does her being in a hotel room mean she couldn't have been raped? Does location matter? 1 Like |
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by DEMZEE(m): 6:56pm On Dec 19, 2020 |
SHE WASNT RAPED SEXUALLY THEY ONLY RAPED HER FINANCIALLY LOL STUPID ASHEWO TUEHHHHHHH |
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